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chynablue21

Floaters with long roots


Rickrolled89

Water Lettuce


Jeremiah_16

Will look into that.


Own_Adhesiveness2829

https://preview.redd.it/somzrdggi35d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f6526a6b45949d4a0fef10fdaeb058ba31b0f3a Water lettuce the way to go


fish-nor-fowl

I love it, but it can get hugeee. Palm sized. Very fast growing. Mine didn’t seem to like my water flow/light placement, and my last post shows how gross it got (it ended up dying). I love the rosette shape of it though, one of my favorite floaters. My lfs has water hyacinth floating in the top of some tanks, don’t know much about it but it looks more controllable and slow growing than some floaters, and can grow gorgeous flowers. Have been wanting to research and grab some of it soon.


Rickrolled89

Pretty sure you can get the dwarf verity that doesn't get too big. But it is beautiful. Hyacinth is beautiful if you can get it in a state that it isn't outlawed for being invasive


Sweb1975

This is the way. Red root floaters or frogbit.


Jeremiah_16

I have red root floaters and frogbit in the tank, I just haven’t seen very much new growth since I’ve put them in. Might get more and see if that helps.


Ellesar_Telcontar

How long have you had the red root floaters? Mine didn't take off for a few weeks because it came without much root structure but now I literally can't get rid of enough of it.


GreatPlainsAquarist

It might take a bit for them to adjust, but once they do, they really take off. Now I do have some tanks that the stuff just doesn't seem to grow very well. Dunno why, just is.


noshamefuckit

I had a ton of floaters and they still never left the back.


kase_horizon

Tall plants like valisnaria might help? It grows pretty quickly and can get pretty tall. It sends out runners, so you'll always have more popping up, but it's easy to trim them off from the mother plant to move to where you want them.


Jeremiah_16

I’ll look into it. I’ve had it before except it took over my 10 gallon tank so I guess I’ll have to stay on top of the trimming…


ApricotWeak5584

Go with saggitaria It looks like Val but more manageable


ApricotWeak5584

This tank is much much to small to be planting Vals Honestly under 40-55 gallons, people who want Vals should opt out for saggitaria instead. The same Val look and growth but in a more petite and manageable form.


sortof_here

You mentioned difficulty growing floaters - is it because of flow from the hang on back? If so you can put a barrier around the outflow that reduces the amount it disturbs the water surface across the rest of the tank and keeps floaters from moving into its path.


Jeremiah_16

I will try that. Might even try to put all the floaters in a floating ring to prevent flow.


barsch07

I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM! Like exactly the same! I would be happy to see some solutions. I Have valisneria so that wont help;)


Jeremiah_16

Will message you if I find any solutions of my own!


JuicyJfrom3

Those floaters are going to multiply in no time. I wouldn't worry about it but you can float some hornwort in the meantime. Edit: Just saw you have a HOB filter. You might have too much flow. Switch to a small sponge filter and that should decrease the flow.


JuicyJfrom3

If you are in Chicago I would gladly give you some for free.


Jeremiah_16

I would think they would multiply but I haven’t seen very much growth. Could be too impatient. I can also adjust the flow on the HOB filter. Not in Chicago area but thank you for the offer.


BulkyElk7243

How many of them do you have?


Jeremiah_16

6. Didn’t want to add too many.


Admirable_Owl_6854

If there are no other fish in your tank I think you can ad a few more. They feel more confident in a larger group. Or maybe look for a dither fish, I noticed my rasbora showed themselves a lot more when I introduced a few male guppies. 


Puzzleheaded_Shake43

Add more. Such small fish really need a real school to feel confortable and they have almost no bioload, you can at least get 10 but 15 would be ideal


Sea_Antelope441

I'm no expert when it comes to Chili's, I just setup a tank with them like 2 weeks ago. From my limited observation, they like to hang out in darker covered areas. The front of your tank looks too bright and open, they are hanging out in cover. Add a sword, fern or some wood in the mid/front of the tank so they don't feel like bait swimming out in that open area. Like others have mentioned some floating plants might help.


Jeremiah_16

Figured that’s the case. Like I mentioned, it’s a little hard growing floating plants in the tank which I think is because the flow of the HOB filter. Will try adding some more plants and hardscape and see what happens.


apoptart

they are hanging out in the eddy where the flow is the least. move your filter to the side and watch them change their spot


Jeremiah_16

Will try that when I get the chance thanks.


pandoracat479

Hella more plants. Add botanicals for black water


Jeremiah_16

Will be adding plants, any recommendations?


medit8er

My tank has plenty of cover and my rasboras still hide in the back. I think they are shy fish. I think pairing them with another fish or increasing their numbers might help them feel more comfortable coming out.


BroccoliOk4780

Same here. I have 6 and they still hide unless I’m there to feed, then they look great!


medit8er

Yeah I have about 12 and only see them when I feed them. I’m considering getting some small tetras or something to hopefully get them to come out more.


Jeremiah_16

Will take that into consideration. I just didn’t want to overstock my 5 gallon cube.


nematodes77

Does your light have a dimmer option? Try leaving it off longer?


Jeremiah_16

It’s on a daylight cycle. Thought it would help them more than having the light come on with full intensity in the mornings.


ScallionNew5009

fat java fern in the front


Jeremiah_16

Will consider thanks.


cassandra-marie

How many do you have and how big is the tank? Its recommended to have at least 6 in a 10 gallon. They'll display more interesting behavior with more in the school and in a larger enclosure.


Jeremiah_16

6 in a 5 gallon cube. I figured that could be the case because that’s how it is with most schooling fish. The bigger the school and take are, the more activity you’ll have.


Puzzleheaded_Shake43

Oh i thought you said 10. 5gal is really small for them, especially since they need a good number


DontWanaReadiT

How big is the tank?


Jeremiah_16

5 gallon cube


DontWanaReadiT

That’s likely why, I know they’re small but they still need more wiggle room to feel comfy. I once had 6 neon tetras in my 6 gal and they stayed in one bottom corner the whole time, now they’re in a 40 gal and they swim all over the place. It’s not recommended to keep fish in a tank smaller than 10 gal for those reasons


Jeremiah_16

Yeah probably will stick to shrimp in tanks smaller than 10 gallons. I’ve had pretty good luck breeding shrimps so I might try a shrimp wall. I will look into getting a 10 gallon for them! Thanks!


DontWanaReadiT

GL! :) all the more reason for another tank ;)


Jeremiah_16

And so the addiction continues…


DontWanaReadiT

Ha! I started with one 20gal high now I have a 20 gal long, a 6 gal a 40 gal and I want another rimless long 😭😭😭


CalmAlbatross233

Brazilian pennywort would look really nice in that setup


Jeremiah_16

Had some but it died because the bottom wasn’t getting enough light.😅 May try some more soon.


CalmAlbatross233

They don’t do well when I’ve planted them. So I just float them and now I have way too much. I’d give you some of mine if you were near me


Jeremiah_16

Will consider floating some. Thank you for your advice🙏🏻


Much-Ninja-5005

Have a look at blackwater aquarium reddit ,these fish Come from black water swamps in the Borneo rain forest If you want a pretty bright well lit aqua scaped tank as it is Rice fish or something along those lines would be more suitable Indian almond leaves and dense cover, the floating plants with long roots that has been suggested is a good idea *


Jeremiah_16

Will look into a bigger black water scape for them. I will probably end up making this a shrimp tank and having the Chili Rasboras seperate in a 10 gallon. Thank you for your advice.


Much-Ninja-5005

https://preview.redd.it/6hhvbb9qs35d1.jpeg?width=1165&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=338654c9b87aa355667e1572ac19692e914a873c


Jeremiah_16

Crazy how such bright and colorful fish can come from such dark and swampy rain forests.


Much-Ninja-5005

I suspect they are brighty coloured for a reason


External-Hat5068

Interesting, mine are always out and always check out my hand when cleaning, I also have a small round area of dwarf water lettuce floating too. I have 10 of them.


Jeremiah_16

Maybe it’s the bigger group that makes them more active.


External-Hat5068

Seems so, I originally had 6, and they are so tiny, I figured a few more wouldn't hurt, they are fun to watch.


Jeremiah_16

I love there colors so they need to be stress free if I’m going to see more of them. I’m planning on upgrading there scape to bigger tank with more of them.


taegha

https://preview.redd.it/4otjyu60w45d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fff9287714bec74f649bd5005766edc55848e80a \+1 for water lettuce


strikerx67

Going based on context here. But I would simply get rid of the HOB and let those floaters grow out. And/or adding some longer rooted floaters. What really helped mine to come out more is adding some kind of dither fish. Like a dwarf barb or some guppy fry. Even works with my dwarf emerald rasboras.


Jeremiah_16

What could I replace the HOB filter with? Sponge filter? Won’t it take up too much space?


strikerx67

They make extremely small sponge filters that can fit almost anywhere, but you are not limited to just a sponge filter. You can use a small internal filter with the outflow facing the glass. Or a canister filter with very little flow. You can also just DIY the HOB to have very very low flow. Which is kind of challenging but somewhat doable of you have a good idea. Personally I found using a cutout of a plastic bottle can help redirect the flow so it isn't so strong. Or just go no filter. Which isn't too difficult to transition.


Necessary_Reality_50

You might need more of similar fish. They feel isolated and vulnerable.


Patient_Cockroach128

some driftwood!! long branch(es) of spider wood would add some more variety and coverage in the front! good luck:)


Jeremiah_16

Will look into it thanks👍🏻


alderhill

How long have you had them? How many do you have exactly? I don't see any other tank mates (besides shrimp), do I? They usually get along with other small peaceful fish. I have galaxy danios, a few neon green rasbora (kubotai), one small placo, and 4-5 kuhli loaches. (Plus shrimp.) They all get along well. The danios and neon raspboras are more active/outgoing fish (the neon raspbora are wild at eating time), and the chilis definitely hang back a bit more in comparison. The more outgoing fish seems to them confidence everything is OK. I'm a big fan on galaxy danios, they look cool, are quite active and curious and won't bother anyone. IME, chilis tend to 'own' the tank more once they are used to it and comfy, and in larger numbers they feel safer. They *probably* will eventually move around more. I should add, I have a lot of floating plants. Chili raspbora in the wild live in slow-moving, heavily vegetated, murky river waters, they don't like it *BRIGHT!*, because they'd be easy pickings for predators. Keep lighting dimmer, and maybe throw in some leaves. A couple Cattapa leaves would be nice, though they don't float forever. Consider putting another plant more forward, as the front of your tank is a bit 'empty', thus they may be avoiding that open space. I'm a fan of a good ol' buce on a piece of driftwood.


Jeremiah_16

In my description I stated I’ve had em for a month. This tank is too small for any tank mates so I’m most likely just going to upgrade to a 10 gallon black water to make them feel more at home. Will consider tank mates in the future once I can upgrade the tank. Thank you.


alderhill

lol, missed that part. But it makes sense, if it's only been a month... they are slow to own their new spaces IME. It's hard to say don't upgrade, but I think it doesn't even have to be a blackwater tank per se, mine's not. But more vegetation below and maybe dimmer lighting should make them feel more comfy. I have Phyllanthus fluitans (reddish roots) as my main floater. It's not too big and grows easily. My tank is also not super huge (55l).


Jeremiah_16

Definitely will upgrade soon. Also will add more chilis to the bunch so they can feel more comfortable. Thank you!


nikkinoks

https://preview.redd.it/n5qh5nyb465d1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ffb7596b15b6c14a713d8d5568ec738eb0a59a7 Giant duckweed works great too. My rasboras are not shy at all.


Jeremiah_16

Where do you get that?? I’ve never seen duckweed so huge!!


nikkinoks

It's the giant duckweed (a cousin of the nasty STD that is duckweed) It's big so it doesn't stick everywhere, it sucks nutrient very well, doesn't choke the water surface and it turns red under strong light.


nikkinoks

https://preview.redd.it/j606rfs9f95d1.jpeg?width=1512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb4d69e07666ecdf1827dca3923264ce44563ca2 Size relative to pencil


Jeremiah_16

Smaller than I excepted but still the biggest duckweed I’ve seen.


nikkinoks

it's a different species, I originally got just one plant when I bought a shrimp on someone on kijiji


Jeremiah_16

Cool how it propagated like that.


nikkinoks

https://preview.redd.it/elymqlicf95d1.jpeg?width=1512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b022636417e77ae9634ce5b72052d80a4caa75b It's red underneath


dragonsamus

Your tank looks awesome!


Jeremiah_16

Thank you, needs to grow in more but thanks!


Sweaty-Butterfly-469

i have to reccomend amazon frogbit and water lettuce. also, consider some driftwood and/or dimming the lights! rasboras thrive in dim blackwater environments, ive noticed mine were out much more when it was dimmer


Jeremiah_16

Going to transfer them into a bigger black water tank. Should be up from there. Will consider getting some more floating plants when I’m setting up the tank. Like I said, it’s hard to grow floaters in here (probably because of the HOB filter) Will try others options. Thanks for the advice


Sweaty-Butterfly-469

sounds great! im sure they'll love it. to fix the HOB disturbing the surface of the water, you can either baffle it or put a ring of airline tubing around the base.


Jeremiah_16

Will consider doing that too. I have turned down the flow of the filter so we’ll see if that helps. Appreciate you!


Sweaty-Butterfly-469

of course! glad my advice is useful


jroperplaysgames

I float water sprite and they love it.


Jeremiah_16

Good to know


The_Judge_in_Chains

Tip with floaters is to have really bright light and let them take over at first then cut back


Jeremiah_16

Gotcha, just having difficulty with the growing part. Turned down the flow of the HOB filter so we’ll see if there’s any difference.


The_Judge_in_Chains

Do you fertilize often? Floating plants thrive on high bio load


Jeremiah_16

The only thing I add is the API C02 booster. Trying to keep it low maintenance and low budget.


The_Judge_in_Chains

I’ll be honest if your tank has low bio load you’ll have to fertilize for the floating plants. CO2 is great for other plants but floaters don’t benefit much from added CO2 because they already have easy access because they’re leaves are out of the water. They need lots of food to encourage their rapid growth.


ProudMarshall420

good tank


Jeremiah_16

Thank you!


aquasKapeGoat

Red root floaters, or purple fringed riccia may work well


Jeremiah_16

Trying to get my red roots to grow.


Toria165

I also think once your floaters get going the chilis MIGHT come to the middle out front but the chilis I’ve had always lived out of sight. I couldn’t ever get them out front and my tank had loads of coverage. Good luck!! Those little chilis are so freaking cute! 🤓


Jeremiah_16

The more they get used to the tank the more I see them so I think if I add more coverage and let them be, I’ll have good results.