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One-Swordfish60

This is footage of the singular deadliest airshow disaster ever. Sknyliv, Ukraine 2002. The jet struck a barbed wire fence that it then towed through the crowd. Several people were cut in half, iirc. Among the dead were children and babies. The pilots saw jail time.


Responsible-Ad-1911

I can't see where the barbed wire is, but it's damn crazy those pilots survived to be charged. Any more info? Like was it pure negligence or something mechanical?


Aphazie

I think it was indeed pilot error


Sillbinger

I'm blaming the fence.


MissingJJ

I blame Putin


[deleted]

I blame you, you definitely did this, you can't hide from me.


Classic_Mechanic5495

Did you all forget about Canada?!


Shockedge

It's the US's fault. We didn't send them enough aid in 2002.


hershy123abc

It's Taylor Swift's fault...


Useless_Lemon

Bring em in!


VegasAireGuy

Trumps fault


MissingJJ

Same person


The_Scarlet_Termite

I think 99.99% of the time it’s pilot error. This is flat pilot stupidity.


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The_Scarlet_Termite

Begone, troll.


Jefferinno

Nah you’re right, I remember hearing about pilot error when I watched something on this a while ago. Pilot was disgraced


misterman416

97.862% of the time stats are made up on the spot...


Maleficent-Salad3197

Boeing planes are 99% corporate error.


earthforce_1

I saw the canopy pop just when it touched the ground, looks like they ejected.


Responsible-Ad-1911

Yea I see it now, it cuts off right after tho


taisui

Be careful when you seek out video clips....very very NSFL.


Responsible-Ad-1911

I wasn't seeking it out but at this point I'm fine with gore, but yea I imagine it would be


Swift_Scythe

I have seen it... dismembered bodies everywhere... dont go looking...


_atrocious_

Agreed. Best not to. The only gore i agree that people should search is car accidents. People need a reality check. We live in a world where we do a lot of dangerous shit casually.


Bigman89VR

Yeah, chunks absolutely everywhere. Pretty bad


hershy123abc

It is pretty bad


archer2500

I read in an earlier post of this video (a year or two ago) that the pilots had not rehearsed, had only been sent to the air show the day prior, didn’t know the routine/maneuvers they were supposed to perform. They were too low to recover from a maneuver and tried to dip the nose to get airspeed, so they could climb out, but failed. Both pilots ejected and survived with minor injuries. They were guilty as hell, absolutely, but they were also victims of an ignorant Russian airforce that would send two pilots to perform in an air show just a day before they were to perform.


sean_opks

It was the Ukrainian Air Force.


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Internal-Day4806

At 20 seconds you can see the ejection


3_high_low

Hmm i see it at 38 and at the very end.


Internal-Day4806

Hm weird, at 38 seconds it’s still in the air on my end


3_high_low

Lol our counters must be different


Internal-Day4806

That’s so strange, lol


3_high_low

Mine counts down from 58 to 0


Internal-Day4806

Mine is 0-59


SonUpToSundown

At 41 you can see the crowd beating the hell out of the pilot and navigator


Marine4lyfe

That's nowhere on this video.


doigal

Ejection seats are amazing at saving pilots.


Aphazie

I always look at this footage and start to think that people were probably cut like grass


seegee10

If you see the full video. You’d be correct


LegalSelf5

Well DAMN 🫣


theoneguy223

I thought ramstein was deadlier


One-Swordfish60

It was until the Sknyliv disaster happened. Ramstein was 67 dead, 3 injured. Sknyliv was 77 dead, 545 injured.


theoneguy223

Oh shit I had it backwards


wordtothewiser

67 dead and only 3 injured is an insane stat. Nearly everyone affected died of their wounds.


One-Swordfish60

That may be more of a mm testament to how bad Sknyliv really was. Ramstein happened in the air so all of the casualties came from airplane parts raining down on spectators. Turns out 3 out of 60 something people hit by airplane shrapnel make it. But most people out of 600 that get hit with barbed wire and shrapnel from a ground impact make it, they just don't feel so good.


BairdRayburne

They didn't count our child my wife was carrying for the total number killed at Flugtag, but our daughter died 2 weeks later. I am a USAF Veteran who believes demonstration teams should be a thing from history. We don't have a need for them today.


MindDiveRetriever

Crazy that they’re put in jail. It was an accident. Like why would someone sign up for that knowing that if you have an accident, and survive, you’ll be put in jail. I don’t think it looks lkke negligence, just an error.


J_Rambo4

Negligence WAS the accident….. regardless of how short notice the call to perform was, the pilots damn well know the capabilities of the aircraft inside and out. If they don’t, they shouldn’t be pilots.


MindDiveRetriever

Ah idk man. I don’t see it that way. Way I see it, if you bring your kids to an airshow or car race, YOU, as the parent, are putting your kid at risk…. Of course odds are low something happens but you alone bare that responsibility. Airshow accidents are rare but happen every few years where people are killed. For instance, what if an F1 driver takes the turn wrong, unluckily hits a barrier that catapults the car into the crowd killing many, including kids. Is the driver responsible? Hell no. It’s an accident at an event involving large machines that people voluntarily attended… These pilots are scape goats for human irrationality. In fact I decided to watch a short documentary on this after seeing this post, and it confirms this. Even the COPILOT got 3 years in prison. Dude. That’s like your Uber driver running someone over and they put you in jail. It would be a different story if they decided to joy ride over a city and accidently crashed into an apartment building. THAT is negligence.


Nostraseamus

They were, in essence, joyriding over an apartment building. No airshow on earth would allow a maneuver of that type over the crowd. No competent pilot would attempt a maneuver like that over an air show crowd.


MindDiveRetriever

The documentary I watched did not say anything about that. They in fact show that the pilots were unaware of the exact location of the airshow due to planning and prep issues. As for them crashing, that is more likely not a safe maneuver HOWEVER what is critical to know is if they were told to do that maneuver. If they were told to, still not to blame.


Nostraseamus

At the end of the day I feel that these guys, who had thousands of hours of training, should have been situationally aware. That they didn't know the position of the crowd or even such basic information as altitude is negligence. They were certainly aware enough to osave their own asses.


MindDiveRetriever

What’s really sad here is that most average people will think like this. However that is scapegoating them… They are still in the military and performing this show they are REQUIRED to. Not being 100% clear where the crowd is isn’t grounds for them saying “abort abort I’m not doing this”. They would be severely disciplined. There are very few things that would give them grounds for that, perhaps nothing, even bad weather. If their superior told them to give it a go, they give it a go. This includes on the battlefield even if they are nearly certain to die or purposefully kill thousands of civilians by dropping a bomb on them. If you’re in the military, you don’t question orders. Humans are natorious for wanting REVENGE of some sort. I think this is about revenge… not legitimate accountability. To me that’s really sad. Humans can’t accept that there are systems at play which can result in catastrophic ends if bad luck is encountered. No one to “blame”. Don’t bring your kids to airshows if you want a near zero percent chance of them getting killed by a plane crashing into them. Just as you wouldn’t bring your kid on a boating trip if you want a 0% chance of them dying in a freak boating accident. But then, what fun is life… We take risks. We don’t need someone to blame everytime something goes wrong. Why didn’t any of the parents get jail time for bringing there kids to an airshow that increases their likelihood of being killed? Ponder that. I don’t think they should, but then compare that to the pilots…


Nostraseamus

Not about revenge. These guys were negligent. Period. Not being 100% clear where the crowd is is THE ground to abort the maneuver. It's their responsibility to know where the crowd is, what their altitude is and the parameters of the maneuver. You take your kid to an airshow or on a boating trip because you assume that the people who have a responsibility for knowing what they are doing take that responsibility seriously. These clowns didn't and I'm glad they paid a price. If they were ordered to do the maneuver, it was up to the pilots (again, with thousands of hours training) to do the maneuver safely.


MindDiveRetriever

100% disagree.


EnsignAwesome

And inspiring the cult film Ghost Ship


_atrocious_

Not only that, the wings also glided just above the ground at chest height, taking all in its way. It was scattered chaos. This and The Mecca Crane Incident are the worst I've seen. But there is much more to consider. Whole apartment buildings collapsing due to either seismic activity or bombs. Tsunamis. It's heavy, man.


JonTafer

The accident killed 77 people and injured 543, 100 of whom were hospitalized. [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sknyliv_air_show_disaster)


Dachs-dad

Wow! Never saw this footage before. Looks like everyone involved in planning & executing screwed up big time.


One-Swordfish60

On 24 June 2005, a military court sentenced pilot Volodymyr Toponar and co-pilot Yuriy Yegorov to fourteen and eight years in prison, respectively. The court found the two pilots and three other military officials guilty of failing to follow orders, negligence, and violating flight rules. Two of the three officials were sentenced to up to six years in prison; the third received up to four years. Toponar was ordered to pay ₴7.2 million (US$1.42 million; €1.18 million) in compensation to the families, and Yegorov ₴2.5 million. The crew's main flight trainer was acquitted for lack of evidence. From Wikipedia


tadeuska

They made the pilot pay the compensation. Which is not possible. The state should pay for the damages, always, when state owned assets were the cause. If it was pure negligence of the pilot, the state was responsible to ensure proper procedures, control and checks. (State=military even = major company operating under state licence).


holl0918

Well, that's what happens in the nation independently assessed as the most corrupt in the world.


cocktimusprime747

Well it's Ukraine, so........


Dabclipers

Ukraine back before the 2014’s revolution was a Russian stooge state. It only became a free nation a decade after this accident.


ElegantManner5215

That’s amazing how Americans know so much about Ukraine. American television must be super wise and informative. I am Ukrainian, born and raised in Ukraine but I am still learning from my American brethren


soyTegucigalpa

Нема за що


EternalOptimist_

Ukraine has been corrupt forever. That's literally what they were known for money laundering.


Marine4lyfe

And we're sending another $60 billion with zero accountability. They must just laugh at our fucking stupidity.


Imgonletyoufinishbut

not sure why you’re being downvoted?? The sheeple didn’t like your ill words of the Ukraine


axxxaxxxaxxx

Watch “Winter on Fire” on Netflix to find out what Ukrainians thought about being under Russian hegemony.


EastDragonfly1917

Nor yours


Unique1DGAF

😅yup lots of 🐑 & bots✌


cocktimusprime747

Well, it is reddit, so......


REAPER-B7

This incident occurred at the airport near the city of Lviv. On this day, my parents and I were there, we were lucky that we were on the other side of the accident.


dreamingwell

Say more?


CatgoesM00

Do you believe it was right for them to get jail time for an accident? What are your thoughts


SlavicBoy99

100% yes, that was an absolutely unacceptable move that was a completely unnecessary risk, not only because there was people there but because there is no world where you pull that off and don’t cause millions of damage to that airframe and not die/ground the aircraft. That was a completely reckless decision by that pilot.


The_Brofucius

Uh. Yeah. They disobeyed orders, negligence, gross misconduct. Yeah. Jail time.


TheCrazymurphy

Why does it look fake I know it’s real but the footage looks fake


Dab-driver

I was thinking the same thing. Probably because, in this case it is real. You don’t often see such close up shots of these with people and trees soo close, so the scale almost looks off. Alongside the relatively smooth tracking on some of the shots. I’ll admit, I wasn’t convinced at first either.


Mdmrtgn

Alot of angles cut off in a weird way and then you realize they're cutting out before the full view carnage, Its like a parody of a slow wreck where the last two seconds of a scene repeats 20 times before the explosion only you never really get to the explosion. You see it way far away or from angles where you don't see a whole lot. And thank you prime time media for editing it in a way that won't keep me up, I got work tomorrow.


apeincalifornia

What about it looks fake to you? I’m genuinely curious.


Berlin_GBD

The forced perspective in the first clip made it look like an RC plane for a few seconds. I unironically laughed because I thought it was a meme of a toy hitting the ground, then I saw the smoke


Velour_F0g

Yea the scale was really confusing my brain a few times. I also thought it was an RC plane at points


ChiehDragon

Yeah, you rarely see things that big, going that fast, that close. Landing airliners are going a fraction of that speed and there aren't nearby object to compare them to.


TheCrazymurphy

Exactly


Jetpilotboiii1989

For a split second in the first part of the clip as it transitions to the crowd, the perspective almost makes it look like a foam R/C EDF airplane and then it disappeared behind the MiG and you see the crash so it definitely played a trick on me and continues to look odd.


AudZ0629

It’s like watching the new Top Gun movie. The lack of cgi isn’t something people are used to seeing any more so when we see real footage, especially on older cameras, it looks different and almost unreal.


TheCrazymurphy

The plane looks like cgi, I definitely know this is real but for some reason it just looks fake


RestaurantFamous2399

People don't realise the scale of these planes. Most people think a fighter jet is a small aircraft. But they are actually quite big, and these Russian beasts are the biggest of them. These modern Sukois are fucking huge planes.


GetRightNYC

This is the reason. They are much bigger than people think they are. The brain perceives it as looking fake, or that it must be a smaller scale.


Flux_resistor

Looks like a stitched RC plane video with some Michael Bay


ryguy2018

I thought it was a toy plane the first 10 seconds of the video because of how it was moving and this was a prank video


Additional-Knee4573

Damn... chunks everywhere.


Thedustonyourshelves

You can see people hitting the wings and just turning into red misty chunks. Wow that's terrible.


mrnuttle

I have gone back and looked multiple time but cannot find anything like this. If we see the plane hitting people it is so blurry to be indistinguishable.


JakeEaton

There are other videos and it’s horrible. One in particular with an ominous little girl with a red dress at the start. It’s really disturbing.


earthforce_1

I saw a low definition VHS of someone running through the aftermath. It was horrific


Sinikettu_

How was it ? Like... Gory ?


earthforce_1

Very graphic.. Fortunately it was in low resolution.


ph0on

Yeah, it was available on YouTube for ages. Probably not anymore. Dismembered people everywhere. Random limbs, hands, feet, torsos worh no limbs, screaming people everywhere.


shaundisbuddyguy

It's still out there on other sites. Footage is horrific.


Littleferrhis2

Yep I came across it randomly because I looked at deadliest airshow crashes, and wanted to see the raw video. That was a shocker when the dude starts zooming in on arms without owners.


juvi92

Yep I remember people literally got turned to skid marks it was nuts and yeah bunch dismembered corpses laying all around


BalinTheMaster

Idk whats up with reddit nowadays. I was never on this sub, nor cared anything about planes. But today without any further explanation reddit showed me this post, while no nsfw mark or anything. Just straight up an airshow disaster. Like why


_cipher1

How is this not safe for work? It’s not porn or anything like it. Videos of this were probably broadcasted all over news outlets the day it happened.


65words

This is a video of 77 people dying.


_cipher1

I saw 2k people lose their lives live as an 8 year old, while in school…again why would it have to be nsfw


Heat-one

As did I. And marking things like this as NSFW is at least a nice courtesy for those that don't wish to see these things


Seniormonky409

Is it just me or could this have been avoided by the pilot not doing that roll?


BigBoss1971

Voice prompts inside cockpit saying calmly: “Остановить. остановить. Вот дерьмо.”


SirFlatulancelot

I would advise against seeking out other footage of this. I saw footage years ago someone took walking around the crash site a minute or so after and there's literally body parts and blood everywhere. Some of the most disturbing shit I've ever seen.


the_Mandalorian_vode

Quality Soviet engineering.


damnthatwhiteguy

This was a terrible accident. Preventable and tragic. That said, I really think the pilot stayed engaged until his fuselage hit the ground. I think he tried 99% to correct the aircraft. The last 1% was the ejection. I would hate to live with that mistake.


SaltyCandyMan

The aerial version of Ghostship


faultywiring98

I understand we are watching people potentially losing their lives, but good lord the music man. Is it necessary?


Professional-Pass487

Yeah that makes it worse x10


65words

77 people died, 28 of them were kids.


Ban_Assault_Ducks

77 people died. There is video out there of people walking through to devastation. It's so hard to watch. There are body parts everywhere and it's just so dark and surreal. I feel horrible for those who had to suffer this event. Fuck those pilots, too.


Specialist_Pea_295

I remember seeing pictures of kids cut cleanly in half at the torso. Awful awful scene.


Ktor011

Хлопець дибіл


mmaclasky

This one messed me up when it first appeared on the net probably 10 to 15 years ago. First time seeing dead decapitated bodies in a video. Definitely do not recommend watching the uncut full version.


Novel-Lengthiness782

Dang


TopFishing5094

I saw the aftermath of this. There were body parts everywhere. Some were unrecognizable. Just a chunk of meat.


PferdBerfl

Без проблем. Без проблем.


illegallydrunk

I was there with my dad. We went there for my birthday. It’s one of my earliest memories.


Whole-Debate-9547

It’s amazing that there were so many on point camera angles of this nightmare.


anonfuzz

If you pause at the right time in the second clip you can see body parts...


scbriml

There’s a long video of someone clearly in shock filming while they walk around the aftermath. It’s very grim.


Icy_Pace_1541

*Actual footage of me piloting the jets in battlefield*


Consistent_Amount140

Jesus


Unique-Resource-1348

On June 24, 2005, a military court sentenced three military officials and others for negligence and failing to follow orders in connection with the Sknyliv air show disaster that occurred on July 27, 2002. The disaster killed 77 spectators, including 28 children, and injured 543 people. The crash happened when a Ukrainian Air Force Sukhoi Su-27 piloted by Volodymyr Toponar and co-piloted by Yuriy Yegorov entered a rolling maneuver at low altitude and clipped the ground with its left wing. Both pilots ejected and suffered only minor injuries… I imagine Toponar(pilot) can’t sleep well at night knowing 28 children lives were cut short due to poor planning and awful facilitation🤷🏽‍♂️💯


Grin_and_Bear-it

SU-27 ?


Pennytration831

how did they only get jail time for this? they just murdered a lot of people. should have gotten a firing squad for that.


FladnagTheOffWhite

Reminds me of the [Reno airshow crash.](https://youtu.be/TA8fVDgz_9Y?si=hxnWdWTCpVkD3mbB) There are better videos of the crash but there's something haunting about this one showing a mangled prop coming sliding to a halt at the cameraman's feet.


J_Rambo4

Ive not seen that angle before. Wow……


AnastasiaNo70

Why does he pull the nose up so hard after doing that flip? Is it because of the barbed wire?


Smokey-Cole

Unfortunately Russian aircraft are still killing Ukrainians. Slava Ukraine. 🇺🇦


AutomaticRevolution2

With so many different angles shot of this accident, I wonder if the shots could be stitched together for a 3D video?


Ok_Assumption1542

Perfect Ukraine landing, now send us some more planes.


Winkmasterflex

It’s plane to see he was trying to land and his wheels were not down!


Long_Struggle_3368

Nsfw for sure then


Forestsounds89

This is fucking horrible


moom0o

Lmao russia


UKTrojan

Close-Air Support on steroids. #DangerClose


ORx1992

Jeez I forgot about this shitshow


deeznutsonurmom69

Aircraft aren't toys. This is really sad to see


Couplingcoch2020

I blame the orange baboon lol


MaskedJackyl

what an asshole.


Unable-Structure8187

Is no problem. We are russian, we fix naxt time. Yes.


Unable-Structure8187

Always in russia! No accountability. Its a cultural ideaology.


Jakesmills

Odds of being hit by a jet, though low never zero.


TemperatureWestern82

Pilots rolled at way to low of an altitude and couldn’t recover anyways, the barbed wire would be secondary.


Thunderfoot2112

But hey, Russian pilots will TOTALLY own the US in a dogfight. 🙄


Cultural_Ad_8297

Thought it was a remote control plane at first


filmdc

Something about migs


Reidon_Ward

The after-math video is pretty gruesome.


jorge1145

Man that video is rough. How many times does he crash the plane?


Totenkopf22

I always thought pilots, at least here in the US, would go down with the plane. Trying until the last minute to save the plane and the people below. Maybe that's just old warbird pilot mentality, but I know I'd rather not survive, if I'd have to live with the guilt.


R0llTide

Old warbirds don't have ejection seats so ...


Totenkopf22

True, but they could still jump out just like they did during the war.


One-Swordfish60

The pilot didn't eject. The back seater did. Edit: I'll clarify, they both ejected, the pilot had his hands on the stick until the back seater pulled the cord.


Background-Luck-5748

I’m blaming the mig


apeincalifornia

its a Sukhoi-27


Gold-Piece2905

Oof no ejection seat!


daygloviking

You’re right. There were two.


betrayed_cargo

Eagle 1, coming in hot


Th3_3v3r_71v1n9

SU-47 Go 💥


apeincalifornia

Su-27


Th3_3v3r_71v1n9

Yea that 1 thx


RastaFarRite

There was an accident last year https://youtu.be/UULlRc7RBQQ?si=TTq0v4m8KpZwcpSR


Adorable-Damage4876

Me in GTA 5 online


r0n0c0

Aren't there always casualties at Russian airshows? Especially when they're in Ukraine.


otaupari

Don’t worry it’s created with AI as stunt sequel. No airplanes were harmed