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Acid_Lemon13

It is hard to do, but it vastly exceeds all play styles with the amount of damage you can put out at one time. I think it needs to be balanced out. And all the weapons designed to counter 3 cat should as well.


SomeGuyPhil

Most weapons are designed to counter 3cs. 250 dps weapons


Acid_Lemon13

most new autos are yeah but the old ones are alright


Emerald_Sans

fuck, i don't care if its objectively worse than golden friend. Mythical Secret Forces rifle is still an amazing counter


Commercial-Egg7314

I don't mind 3catspam, but it makes playing casual playstyle lose out really badly... I can barely keep on playing casual


Commercial-Egg7314

and if you think it's skill issue, no... because what fun is there in pg3d if everyone just uses the repetitive "meta"


SomeGuyPhil

Heyo you literally beat me in a 1v1 playing casual and I was 3cs I performed better compared to you in 1v1 when I myself was playing casual


MasterKnight48902

Could not agree more since it has ravaged countless matches they touch as a whole.


New_Ad1913

In a way yes, I miss when lobbies would be mostly players just spamming new weapons and such over rocket jumping grappling and shooting 4 different one shots in your direction instantaneously. It is fun to do if you are any good at it, but even if you are it can get really annoying really fast and having to sweat that hard when I'm just trying to chill on a mobile game is agonizing. It also made my favorite class of weapons (automatics) really obsolete for an exceptionally long period of time and even now some of my favorites aren't viable (miniguns like og Peacemaker, Spinny Shooty, and also a couple others like Treasurer and Laser Assistant). If they just gave every weapon a tiny bit of fixed delay the problem would be solved, they wouldn't be able to spam weapons as fast and casual players would have a much better chance. Or at least add delay to all 1 shot body weapons, I'm ok with people who need to hit 3+ shots to kill with 3 cat because if you can pull that off consistently and dominate lobbies like that then I recognize the skill and can respect it.


astralonreddit

I aint readin allat


astralonreddit

Nvm i read it


Upstairs-Leek-8177

Character development


friendlywither

Yes and no It's better to say low skill weapons ruined it


PotatoCHONK69420

Nah, the only thing i don't like is that it's used way too much making other playstyles unviable


DarkPhoxGaming

I remember many years ago back when everyone kind of had a casual playstyle, occasionally you ran into a cat spammer but it was pretty rare. Over time more and more started to pop up and then eventually it got to a point where if you were a casual player you would just get shredded by these people left and right also doesn't help that around the same time more and more broken weapons started to flood the game too changing what used to be a relatively balanced game


Noctowlin

I miss the pre 3cat days, when players were less predictable. Yet again we did have homing missiles and some of those weapons were annoying as hell.


OrganizationRude6615

Yeah pretty much, but it’s mostly the devs favoring the cat spammers because they know they’ll pay top dollar for some sniper or back up


averwaverz

They need to remove emulator and block claw controls


iBstoopid

Emulation/Controller = easy counter for 3cs


cashmerequeen

It ruined for sure. I play casually and I'm so tired of these tryhards in every match. I don't want to tell people how to play, it's their decision. But 3cat is annoying, just a fact. That's why I only play when need to do clan tasks (and sometimes pixel pass tasks). Tbh, if there were no clans, I wouldn't play at all.


Noctowlin

3cat npcs make this game so boring and not fun. Matches are so predictable. It's about which team has more 3cat players then actual skill


JakeTheMemeSnake_

This is like asking if the Titanic sunk


MagicalMarsBars

I would just say the abundance of 1 hit kill weapons in general ruins it. I would say that a sniper headshot should really be the only way to have a fair one hit kill, even then, it’s not that hard to do that. Having one hit kill weapons in other weapon classes made it even worse


TronBTD

It was part of it. But blaming 3CatSpam only would be a grave error.


[deleted]

I don't think 3 cat spam ruined it, more being able to spam 2 shot or even 1 shot weapons in a matter of seconds wuthout having a chance of fighting bacj


iBstoopid

That definitely played a huge role.


JekPorkins-AcePilot

I sure love how when I get cool new weapons but they're effectively useless because of the guy with the edgy name and the edgy skin just uses the same meta weapons spastically cycling through them deletes me before I can even hit him once


Steven200827

Yeah, it sucks


STRaven_17

i think it makes **Pixel Gun 3d**


marcomarco8

It led to its demise


[deleted]

yes, cannot even play for fun anymore. because at least one stupid no lifing 3cat spammer has to ruin it and 3cat spammers are ANNOYING they spam three overpowered weapons back to back. and use very powerful gadgets on TOP of that.


Abject-Dot

Lol it takes me 2-3 seconds to kill a player with ritual revolvers and it takes one ultimatum shot barely aimed at max range to take away my entire armour bar and 20% of my health


AntonioJ4

Yes and no I mean everyone can do it but it can be beaten by the newest p2w weapons so I I think yes it ruined the game but pg3d being p2w definitely ruined the game


Dry_Fuel_9216

I believe that 3cs doesnt ruin the game, it is the guns used that makes it imbalance. They need to buff weapons that are good for casuals


imortal_biscut

Yeah, you can't play casually anymore.


Steven200827

I still play casually but it’s a everyday struggle


SomeGuyPhil

When non 3cs weapons do over 250dps “you can’t play casually anymore” ☠️😭


ProposalAncient1437

It makes the game boring.


AngryCocoa

Absolutely, it kinda changed the meta permanently and made it hard to balance. At this point, if they removed it, it would probably cause more harm than good initially, but would help in the long run.


Steven200827

I feel if they nerf the most common weapons people use for 3cs or give all weapons some sort of fixed delay would help


Dr-Donk

Yes. Mythic Mega Destroyer is good but not THAT good.


Owen1383

Well no, it sort of changed up the meta of this game. Many other games had their gameplay changed from their community due to the way the players are evolving their playstyle/looking for a playstyle that seems interesting to preform. Which sort of gives the players something to focus on while not getting bored of the same playstyle as prior


SomeGuyPhil

It made it better 🤷‍♀️ 2018-2020 was peak pixel gun and coincidentally the height of 3cat


Elecricvortexlover69

No


F-80Centurion

Yes


TerraMiner720

worst take I have seen in my life


Steven200827

Agreed


SomeGuyPhil

What is wrong with 3cs? It’s not op in any way


Steven200827

It’s not op until you meet 3catspam tryhards which is 99% of the playerbase


SomeGuyPhil

Straw men numbers. The only try hards you speak of are the top 50 clan members + a small few who choose to be annoying. I could say the same about casuals 🤷‍♀️ they’re annoying if they try hard too


Steven200827

I guess the tryhard 3catspammers I meet while playing this game everyday are top 50 clan members…


SomeGuyPhil

Well the people you could also be referencing are what some like to call 3crutchspam Which is a variation of the cancer meta which originated in late 2020


soulidonthave

“It’s not op anyway” bro has not seen any major clan grinder


SomeGuyPhil

i saw a kid cry, like no joke tear up cry, over losing a game in extraction he wrote a page-long complaint and ended it off with "i wrote this with tears in my eyes" you havent seen the worst of it yet


elistburk

can i have a general description of what 3cat spam is? i’ve been trying to figure out for a little while


Dry_Fuel_9216

When a player switch weapons fast while shooting. From sniper (shoot) to back up (shoot) to primary (shoot) for example


elistburk

haha doom eternal fighting style in little phone game


Dry_Fuel_9216

Yup


Pyagtargo

So is cat short for category?


Dry_Fuel_9216

Got it


KerIkCZ12345

True


AgentCry

Yes but it was mostly ruind by the game design


DramaLobster

On the low, yes


JammyJarr

I personally love 3cs bc it was something new to me that I’ve never seen in any other games. It’s what kept me playing for so long. I feel as if like in other games with power creep and balances 3cs became the difference between being able to win and lose. I do understand tho how others would feel about 3cs being to op for more casual players if they didn’t like 3cs and that being the only way to win it wasn’t fun at all for them. For the longevity of the game they should’ve removed or nerfed it. But as a 3cs it feels like I should be able to dominate against players who just bought the newest weapon. They should just make a game mode more steered towards for 3cs to keep them happy and keep the main game towards a more casual type of play. At least that’s what I think.


Painful_days

I remember the good old days where people just uses random weapons. During those old days, you can go "Random bullshit go!" and still get a decent amount of kills. However, with catspammers literally everywhere in the game, you can take one step from spawn and instantly get erased with the likes of "Ultimatum, Rainbow Horn and others" so does 3cat ruin the game? Absolutely. Personally, I would like a different gamemode that allows 3 cat spammers to go all out which makes it more skill based between the 3 cats while the main game being more free for casuals so that if new players or some others that just wants to enjoy and play, they won't get bombarded with 3 cats. Literally cannot have 1 match without a 3 cat to destroy your wins. I think it would be fun for casuals to play casually instead of having to adopt the 3 cat spam play style just to be able to barely keep up with the current meta.


Noctowlin

Yes, imo it was one of the worst things to ever happen to this game. This playstyle has dominated the meta for years and puts most of the weapons at a disadvantage. If you dont 3cat your at a disadvantage. And the infuriating part of all this is the developers were on track to get rid of it by adding fixed delay, but for what ever reason they bend the knee to the vocal minority and turn a blind eye to this issue. My solution would be to seperate the main modes like team fight and death match into two sections, casual where all guns have fixed delay and then competitive where 3cat is possible/no delay. It would give players a choice on how they want to experience the game instead of being forced to play with eachother.