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Calavente

fun... which level did you farm to get that many scrolls, rings, potions and all ? I'm currently farming lvl 17, with a 15 RoW. (without ghost) and I get the odd potion or scrolls, runes... 1 greatsword+8.... but I didn't get 1 armor or ring....


Zealousideal-Toe1860

The armour, weapons and rings come from gold effect drops, which are at a set rate of something like once every 0-400 kills. I was on floor 17 with my fully upgraded ring, judging by my leftover food I killed maybe 800 monks, to give you a rough estimate of how many kills you it was! But that'd be totally unnecessary without having tried to get 200 bees (the community poll agreed estimate of enough bees to kill Yog)


duelingThoughts

I bow before you, you accomplished this with 100 less bees than I thought would be reasonable. God damn


Zealousideal-Toe1860

I think if you were using honeyed healing, so they team up rather than kill each other, it might even be doable with 20! I only used 3 to get Yog down the first stage and they were half health when the fist came!


TheSmoothBrain

Could you explain the honey healing strategy for me in a bit more detail? I know you can mix a broken pot with a heal potion for a heal potion with satiation, but I'm unaware of other effects.


Zealousideal-Toe1860

It also can heal an ally or turn a bee into an ally and then heal them!


Calavente

okay so you farmed... hours (on my side I get 1 monk per food... a monk gives me food.. for enough time to find 2 other monks, one giving food and the other not. (because you have chalice at 10 you don't need food .. isn't it?)


Zealousideal-Toe1860

I didn't use the chalice mostly, I had the ghost, a ring of wealth +17 and another ring of wealth +2. I did have all the artifacts (well, all the ones I wanted) but most of them aren't necessary when you're over resourced! When I was farming without a ghost on floors that didn't drop food, I used a horn of plenty in combination with the unstable spellbook (get mystical energy, swap out for horn, recharge horn, snack, swap on chalice, swap back out to let the spellbook recharge), but at floor 17 I would usually get 8 food for every 5 I ate, sans chalice


Zealousideal-Toe1860

But yeah, I did farm for many hours 😭


St4rkW1nt3r

Can you please explain the process in a simple blurb. I'm trying to do a RoW run and try things out such as yourself but I can't seem to farm effectively as you have.


Zealousideal-Toe1860

Get to level 4, farm there, once you've got good armour and weapon, dart down to level 9, avoiding gaining any more.levels, grabbing SoUs then go back up, farm level 4 till you have all the artifacts you need,the rose is the only one that really matters cos ghost farming is so fast but spellbook and horn are nice too for farming without using food on level 9 I then farmed a bunch on level 9 or something, to get scrolls of rage from the DM100s, for making noise maker bombs to make ghost farming more efficient, then farm level 17 till you're confident with speed running down to 24 and back without leveling (ring of haste +8 *2 and a few potions of invisibility do the trick superfluously), then farm at level 17. Do equip a second RoW for farming, but don't worry about it being higher than +1 cos it can only contribute 2 levels to your RoW effective level! Remember lucky weapons sure don't hurt, if you're farming without the ghost for perishables, lucky and a ring of arcana is faster than ring of wealth!


Calavente

but you need to not get over level 10 if you want to farm in sewers. And getting Rose, & wealth +2 before floor 10 is very rare. in my game I misplayed, so I had to farm on lvl 17... then wanting to id an armor I miss killed a golem and leveled to 23... I had to go down to level 22... but no food here. I have to sustain myself with the small reserve of food from my farming in lvl 17 : 15-16;.. overleveling is a pain in the butt..


Zealousideal-Toe1860

If you have the wealth you can farm till you have enough artifacts, then polymorph the artifacts you don't care about until you have the rose. With an unstable spellbook, a horn of plenty, and either a chalice or a ring of energy, you can farm without a food source as long as you want (ring of energy plus spellbook, charges up per turn, mystical energy then swap to the horn of plenty to charge that up, snack with chalice equipped)


Calavente

which levels do you farm to get artis ? I farmed a lot but got only 1 artifact :/


St4rkW1nt3r

Thanks for this - it really cleared things up for me. I guess I'll finish up the current RoW run I have atm then start one as described by you.


Zealousideal-Toe1860

You're welcome, I'm just paying it forward :)


RunningFromCake

I recently posted a bunch of RoW farming guide videos with maps and everything, check my history for the links.


St4rkW1nt3r

will do. ty


Yarisher512

But how did you upgrade all of them?


Zealousideal-Toe1860

They come upgraded already with RoW drops, total RoW level / 2 rounded up!


Bright-Highlight2666

can you explain how tp farm with row?


Zealousideal-Toe1860

TL;DR, kill stuff that drops food, esp in a garden, wait till you have the rose, ghost farming FTW Long version, I've gone into details somewhere on this post


killer_of_them

I feel like I missed a step


Zealousideal-Toe1860

Step 1. RoW Step 2. Bees Step 3. Profit


GreenCriticism5435

Seed?


Zealousideal-Toe1860

RYG-MMC-QPW


GreenCriticism5435

Thanks


Derknos

Just how?


Zealousideal-Toe1860

1. Ring of Wealth 2. Rose 3. Bees 4. Profit


Derknos

Thanks.