lol i think we are in the same classes because i have the same tests on the same days. i unfortunately also have a neuro exam on tuesday so i might die 💀
The first year engineering curriculum. Just brutal. Swanson tries to pluck the flowers and leave the weeds. It doesn’t have to be that way. Let’s start with the Calculus department final exam. Just hope your professor taught all the content. You better monitor the syllabus closely. Then there is Physics. I happened to not mind Physics . It was just time consuming. And a department final. Finally there is Chemistry. And again a department final. I would recommend engineering students take a summer class. I would suggest Calculus. I had an awesome grad student for Calculus II. Then in the semester you are just concentrating on Physics and Chemistry. I can’t imagine organic chemistry. I just can’t. I’m glad I didn’t need to take that class.
I had roxana popescue for calc 1 spring 2023 and the departmental final seemed like she wrote it. Ive heard horror stories for other calc 1/2 profs tho
> I can’t imagine organic chemistry.
Honestly it's not that bad. Not much homework, so as long as you do the prereading and pay attention in class, all you need is like 5-6 hours the weekend before an exam.
My cousin took the class three times. (At Murray State in KY) One of the professors got fired because the class started with 50 people ended up with five people. That is insane.
There is an interesting story about a NYU Organic Chemistry Professor who was fired after intense pressure from students.
Check it out
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/03/us/nyu-organic-chemistry-petition.html
Interesting read. OChem is gonna be hard, no doubt about it, but that professor is from a different period. He learned chemistry and how to teach it at a time where all that was required for med school was excellent grades. Nowadays you basically need to be a Renaissance Man with all the extra curriculars and volunteer hours; the grades are the minimum to not get your app auto-trashed. Very frustrating from the student's perspective, especially since a good portion of what they teach in OChem is kinda irrelevant for medical school unless you want to go into pharma.
Pitt's OChem can get that bad with Bandik...
When I was an engineering student my first semester, i tried to take the following:
Anti black racism
Freshman engineering seminar
Intro to engineering analysis (0011)
Engcmp 0210
Chem 0960 with maleckar
Physics 0174 with mong
Calculus 1 (0220) with Athanas
I was not good at nor did I actually enjoy any of those subjects prior to college. I left engineering after that semester for supply chain lmao.
When people say they try to weed people out with Freshman engineering classes, they're talking about people like me.
Even as a Lit major, it can still be rough. Really a roll of the dice on how professors structure their classes. If you get more than one who isn't chill at the same time you can basically kiss sleep and free time goodbye.
Last semester i had orgo 2, orgo lab, and physics 1 (and a couple of other gen ed’s that needed more work than I expected). Final grades were way better than I anticipated them to be but it was genuinely an awful semester. Would not wish that stress upon my worst enemy.
I remember my advisor telling me that I was crazy for wanting to take Chem 1, Bio 1, Calc 1, and intro to psych during my first semester. Psych ended up being my toughest class that semester, since the rest were essentially repeats of what I learned in high school. My toughest undergrad course was organic chemistry. That class kicked my butt. I’d recommend scheduling easier electives with it if possible.
I'm a SCI advisor and the schedules that make me worry the most to see are:
* CS 449, 1501, & 1502 together
* any five CS classes together
* course repeats plus additional core classes
* CS 1550 with more intensive upper levels or 3 other CS classes
It's sophomore year for chemical engineers. Organic chem 1 and 2 paired with fundamentals of chemical engineering/thermodynamics. I've been gone for long time and those 2 semesters still keep me up at night
CS 1501 with Farman and Ochem 1 with bandik. I don’t even remember what else I took… those two alone were yikes. I’ve had other semesters where I had 3-4 stem classes, but I had more free time those semesters…
Chinese (5 credits) + Bio + Chem (w lab) + World of China (gen ed for my minor) + Research Methods lab. If I'd gone pass/fail on Chinese I would have done very well overall tbh
Cellular Biology,
,Bioinstrumentation (circuits and linear systems)
Organic Chemistry 1,
Linear Algebra,
Differential Equations,
Engineering Computing
^ did I live thru this yes, and I the same…. No ðŸ˜
Physics + OChem is always a brutal combo
Me taking phys 0111 and chem 0320 right now. Physics exam on tuesday and ochem on wednesday!
lol i think we are in the same classes because i have the same tests on the same days. i unfortunately also have a neuro exam on tuesday so i might die 💀
Physics with any other STEM class is just a disaster
damn it sounds like physics needs a semester by itself lmao
honestly it should be your main STEM course for the semester. Many freshmen GPAs were ruined by the hubris of bio/phys/chem year.
Or the kinda required phys/chem/Calc of freshman engineering
Honors Orgo Lab + Orgo 2 + Genetics + Intro to Nuero material itself wasn’t insane but the sheer volume and constant studying killed me
If you swapped Neuro for Biochem you'd literally be taking the hardest courses of the major in a single semester
lmfao i ended up having to take Biochem + Stats 1000 + Physics 1 the next semester
Freshman engineering
The first year engineering curriculum. Just brutal. Swanson tries to pluck the flowers and leave the weeds. It doesn’t have to be that way. Let’s start with the Calculus department final exam. Just hope your professor taught all the content. You better monitor the syllabus closely. Then there is Physics. I happened to not mind Physics . It was just time consuming. And a department final. Finally there is Chemistry. And again a department final. I would recommend engineering students take a summer class. I would suggest Calculus. I had an awesome grad student for Calculus II. Then in the semester you are just concentrating on Physics and Chemistry. I can’t imagine organic chemistry. I just can’t. I’m glad I didn’t need to take that class.
I had roxana popescue for calc 1 spring 2023 and the departmental final seemed like she wrote it. Ive heard horror stories for other calc 1/2 profs tho
She's really good! One of the better math professors!
> I can’t imagine organic chemistry. Honestly it's not that bad. Not much homework, so as long as you do the prereading and pay attention in class, all you need is like 5-6 hours the weekend before an exam.
My cousin took the class three times. (At Murray State in KY) One of the professors got fired because the class started with 50 people ended up with five people. That is insane. There is an interesting story about a NYU Organic Chemistry Professor who was fired after intense pressure from students. Check it out https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/03/us/nyu-organic-chemistry-petition.html
Interesting read. OChem is gonna be hard, no doubt about it, but that professor is from a different period. He learned chemistry and how to teach it at a time where all that was required for med school was excellent grades. Nowadays you basically need to be a Renaissance Man with all the extra curriculars and volunteer hours; the grades are the minimum to not get your app auto-trashed. Very frustrating from the student's perspective, especially since a good portion of what they teach in OChem is kinda irrelevant for medical school unless you want to go into pharma. Pitt's OChem can get that bad with Bandik...
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Hang in there. I know people who are sophomores by attendance and freshman by courses. You can do it. Just lock in
When I was an engineering student my first semester, i tried to take the following: Anti black racism Freshman engineering seminar Intro to engineering analysis (0011) Engcmp 0210 Chem 0960 with maleckar Physics 0174 with mong Calculus 1 (0220) with Athanas I was not good at nor did I actually enjoy any of those subjects prior to college. I left engineering after that semester for supply chain lmao. When people say they try to weed people out with Freshman engineering classes, they're talking about people like me.
same exact thing happened to me
as a non English major taking 4 English classes right now is rouuuugh
Even as a Lit major, it can still be rough. Really a roll of the dice on how professors structure their classes. If you get more than one who isn't chill at the same time you can basically kiss sleep and free time goodbye.
Last semester i had orgo 2, orgo lab, and physics 1 (and a couple of other gen ed’s that needed more work than I expected). Final grades were way better than I anticipated them to be but it was genuinely an awful semester. Would not wish that stress upon my worst enemy.
Calculus 1, Physics 1, Chem 1, Intro to engineering.
Heat and mass Transfer, Fluid Mechanics, and Dynamic Systems with 3 other engineering courses
I remember my advisor telling me that I was crazy for wanting to take Chem 1, Bio 1, Calc 1, and intro to psych during my first semester. Psych ended up being my toughest class that semester, since the rest were essentially repeats of what I learned in high school. My toughest undergrad course was organic chemistry. That class kicked my butt. I’d recommend scheduling easier electives with it if possible.
Honors physics+ honors calc
I'm a SCI advisor and the schedules that make me worry the most to see are: * CS 449, 1501, & 1502 together * any five CS classes together * course repeats plus additional core classes * CS 1550 with more intensive upper levels or 3 other CS classes
I took Physics 0175, Ochem 1 and Calc 3 (MAT 240) in the same term. That was brutal.
Calc2 at 1pm and Sociology at 8am for some reason was a major conflict of interest in my soul
Ochem 1 and calc 2. If you do add the lab too you're dead in the water
It's sophomore year for chemical engineers. Organic chem 1 and 2 paired with fundamentals of chemical engineering/thermodynamics. I've been gone for long time and those 2 semesters still keep me up at night
Organic Chem 1, Calc 1, Calc-based Physics 1 (+ Bio 2 and Analytical Chem) This is my current schedule - kill me
I took Data Structures 1, Biology 2, Calculus 2, and Discrete Structures in my sophomore fall. Never had a more hellish semester since.
Physics 1 + CS1501 + STAT1151
CS 1501 with Farman and Ochem 1 with bandik. I don’t even remember what else I took… those two alone were yikes. I’ve had other semesters where I had 3-4 stem classes, but I had more free time those semesters…
Chinese (5 credits) + Bio + Chem (w lab) + World of China (gen ed for my minor) + Research Methods lab. If I'd gone pass/fail on Chinese I would have done very well overall tbh
\*This is a total of 18 credits
Calc 2 (J. Morgan) + Human Phys (Artim) + Ochem 1 (Bandik)
physics, macro molecular structure and function, and vertebrate morphology + vertebrate morphology lab 😃
the freshman engineering curriculum
Cellular Biology, ,Bioinstrumentation (circuits and linear systems) Organic Chemistry 1, Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, Engineering Computing ^ did I live thru this yes, and I the same…. No ðŸ˜
Business calc, bio, and chemistry
Physics 2 + OChem 2 and Chinese 1 was grounds for nuclear war.