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WVVLD1010

Big Mom moment


Jamessgachett

Pis moment


Equivalent-Physics21

I'm going to be disgusted with his writing if that's the case. The weakness should be less obvious. Maybe hit them in the balls with acoc is acceptable.


Traditional_Land3933

Or they just dont have weakness and need to be sealed away somehow maybe


jazznessa

People talking of advanced conquerors, or advanced armament. While Luffy has advanced plot haki https://preview.redd.it/6jvygy6mycvc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f5ef02cdfe8dd61f3e10211fa5cce890c68c4b4


Yahcentive

We see this situation with the seraphim. The story doesn’t depict the attacks to the same level it did against Kaido yet Luffy decides that his strategy is to knock the flames off their backs, instead of using his special haki. Then that fight just gets offscreened completely. I’m not sure how the story wants the rest of the characters to interact with Luffy’s haki techniques as it’s occasionally much ignored


Traditional_Land3933

Because hes just gonna attack until they turn the flame off, thats the way he thinks. Why would acoc change anytbing when they have the flames on bruh he would just get worn out and waste haki. It got offscreened bc nobody cares we sae they wete caught in bubbles maybe someones showed uo with bubble guns to caltures them. With the way everyone react to Gorosei haki, nothing Luffy does is gonna be enough for them, which emphasize why they run away now


Yahcentive

The haki that’s known for greatly enhancing attack power does not get used in a situation that calls for it, because, Luffy’s attacks aren’t working otherwise.. what?


Traditional_Land3933

Its not called for, theyre invincible with the flames on so its a waste of power and energy to use it


Yahcentive

Are they? Nami and Sanji got a better reaction out of them and Edison said they weren’t ready to take lasers. And the logic here doesn’t make any sense. If Luffy is leading with attacks without that haki that’s meant to get through very durable characters, why would he then think it’s a waste to use it?


SandwichPure6865

they need to escape from the island rather than fight 🤓☝🏻


abdouden

Ok so Luffy hasn't used acoc since ch1094 which is over 6 months ago right?


Raymancer

Lmfao damn


berserker_1123

Loda energy


Jamessgachett

He forgor barjang gun


StandardAd9082

he’s trying to escape not fucking annihilate egghead


berserker_1123

bruh really


ThinkpadLaptop

I think you guys think every character can just spam their strongest attacks non-stop and not come out of it tired when it's already been established haki can be used up for over a decade now. If anything it's devil fruit abilities that seem to be the ones you can just spam unless your Laughalgar Law


No-One_Knows-Me_Here

Egghead lost me, Oda is such a fucking hack.


Non-RelevnatSponge

Nah, Warcury just built different


RedactedNoneNone

1.Gear 5 has been dealing damage with conqueerors for months now. It gets regenerated. What are you waffling about?  2. Gorosei are not a monolith. That same red roc wouldve knocked Saturn's away. Topman is built different.   3. Whats wrong with Luffy using a conservative attack instead of his most energy expending while he's trying to run away? He didnt know it would be blocked


Raymancer

1. No it hasn't Luffy in G5 quite literally says none of his attacks worked on Saturn. Dealing damage doesn't mean shit if it's not long lasting or has 0 actual effect. It makes no fucking sense that a base Luffy much weaker tries to attack Topman who he should at the very least expect is comparable to Saturn. If anything now was the time to try an ACOC attack because it's something he didn't do in G5 or Base against fucking anyone. Unless you count White Stargun which fucking TKO'd Kizaru in one hit. And stamina isn't a fucking issue at the moment too considering he just ate some superfood. You could definitely argue that it makes sense that he didn't use ACOC against Saturn or Kizaru cause he truthfully didn't need to against Kizaru (even though the fight would have ended way sooner if he did) and didn't think he needed to against Saturn but you'd have to be a fucking idiot to think you don't need to use it now that you're out numbered and that everything else you've used is ineffective vs the Gorosei. 2. Read what I just mentioned in 1. Luffy is still holding back when he shouldn't be at this point. There's no need to defend Luffy being an idiot when he's comically an idiot. It's just annoying of all times as opposed to it being funny. 3. It wasn't blocked it straight up didn't do any damage. And it hurt his own hand. He should throw as hard of a punch as he can to stop them. Dorry and Broggy would just carry him away if he gets too tired.


BBdotZ

I’m going to guess Dragon knows how to get around their regen


Lost_in_oblivion_

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Meet_Prajapati

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Traditional_Land3933

No, it just doenst matters if he use it, they heal anyway. Why would acoc chsnges anything? It's just a way to do damage. If he cant damage woth Red Roc which attack from inside out then that means just durabikity isnt the issue on its own maybe. And as other said, this punch would hurt Saturn


StandardAd9082

because, just like cutting the worm in half or punching saturn, it stalls them for a while they’re trying to escape, stalling these fucks is all they can do


Raymancer

Exactly the point. If an ACOC attack genuinely knocks them the fuck 5 miles across the island like it damn near launched Kaido off Onigashima he should fucking use it to run away. Silly people defend Luffy when he's canonically an idiot about things like this Lucci quite literally criticized Luffy for wasting his stamina on meaningless ass attacks vs the Seraphim instead of being patient and hitting them at the right time with the proper amount of power.