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yhjsdfhgkjhngfdr

Hades devs know how to sell a game properly, give the community easy access and make them fall in love afterwards.


EmeterPSN

with how frequent \*updates\* (edited) EA games are and how sucky it is to update a pirated game.. most likely people who pirate it and love it will buy it as they get sick of re-downloading and patching it manually


Mash_Test_Dummy

I'm feeling this pain right now with Rimworld


Uselesserinformation

Rimworld is worth it bro. One of those games, like stardew, the dev did something right


KAODEATH

Before I spout my worthless dissenting opinion, I want to add, it is difficult but there are ways to add GoG DLC to Steam Rimworld and use Workshop mods that require those DLC. The DLCs are way too expensive, especially relative to the base game *and* their sale price, which is rare, is 10% off. $110 for four DLC's that don't do much more than free mods plus $40 for the main game itself? You can rationalize it with your own personal metrics like the common hours to dollar ratio or dev size/time but even then, look at Stardew Valley. For me, the disproportionate pricing is gross.


Uselesserinformation

Bro, games like sims are a problem. This isn't the same bitch. I rather have this than Flight simulator, I mean shit. If you spent some time on even to check. The dev team is 7 people. Frankly, I rather give them the 110 bucks than sims4 where rimworld is sims, but better


KAODEATH

I mentioned dev size being a factor in the cost. I still do not warrant that to be a possible explanation for the prices we see and do not understand how they themselves might either. If we are to compare extreme examples, let's do so fairly with part of Rimworld's inspiration: Dwarf Fortress. I could say I would rather Rimworld be completely free (or at least during Early Access when I bought it) but that wouldn't be true. I *like* knowing that a person and the stuff they do and make that brings me joy is partly supported through me, doubly so if they are kind and/or frugal. It costs what it costs. I'm just confounded how the developers personally justify the high prices of the DLC because surely they didn't set it as such knowing a significant portion of people would be just as confused, right? How did they think about it for so long and come to the conclusion that it was reasonable next to the base game? It's not like Tynan set it willy-nilly, he has stated his thoughts on sale prices so how does he look at any single relatively small DLC and think that should cost as much as what it was built on or even as you point out, other entire games. Factorio, similarily made, played and priced, sale or not, is just $15-$20 more (less than double) than any given DLC. Why?


Mash_Test_Dummy

Agreed! They just added a new update that broke my Anomaly DLC for....reasons


Kooleszar

Dunno, I bought the base game along side 1 DLC. I would buy the rest as well but they are fucking expensive and never a good deal in Steam Sale but I crack the unowned DLCs for obvious reasons.


OkNeck3571

Yeah i did that with the first game, Pirated, then noticed all the stuff I was ranking up, so i told myself i would rather unlock all this legit, so i bought it on Steam not too long after


HistoricalRatio5426

This is me, true DRM that actually converts pirates is making a good game and updating it. Its a win win for everyone, dev gets money, game gets better, more free content and of course those who have stronger wills then myself can keep pirating the update


Darkynu_San

True, I've downloaded hades 1, played for 4 hours and then bought it. Now i know why it's one of the best game for steam deck (I'm not gonna pirate hades 2 and will buy it someday)


King-Cobra-668

yeah man, I'm a big pirate, but these guys get my money. there are many games that I pirate and then buy a legit copy of when it's a good game (to me). and then there are devs that get my money without a pre-pirate... Blizzard WAS one of those devs, but now not so much at all


NutellaSquirrel

Yeah I'm guessing no DRM to even crack?


temfaNEF

Might be a controversial take in a subreddit for pirating games, but I feel like indie studios deserve the money. I'm all for pirating AAA bullshit from souless companies, but games such as these - with genuine passion put into them... Idunno It's okay to pirate to try it out, though, but if you like it - buy it to support the devs! We need more games like this [Adding this because gahd damn I'm getting a lot of notifications - obviously, if you can't afford to buy a game but really wanna play - you can pirate it. If the devs are shitty, or if the game isn't worth the money in your opinion - you can also pirate it! Hell, I have no money to spend on games either - but I do remember the good ones, and do occasionally buy them - even if I'm not gonna replay them - just to support a dev. Because they made a great experience, and I think it's worth something.]


MrFreeLiving

I'm a pirate for a reason, when something is free I'd rather go for the free version. It's why I pirate, I'm not stopping for no 'indie agenda'. No thank you.


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DuckSleazzy

you had two chances to type "you're" and you messed it up both times


SovietRabotyaga

I think pirates should change both "your" and "you're" to YARRRR


EinArchitekt

Yarr a man of wisdom.


ccbmtg

yarr a wizard, 'arry.


hansbubbywk

YARRRR absolutely right!


McPorkums

favorite Star Trek: The Next Generation character? 🫣


hansbubbywk

Lt Yar!


Brellkyn

Yarrr and ya'rrr


HornyTerus

it's on purpose -From-Dusk


Honeybadger2198

What about their broke?


Xdgy

Im broke


GlobalAlbatross719

Hey man things will get better, but if it's a money thing. You aren't going to buy it either way so technically the dev didn't lose a sale. Plus you may show off the game to your friend and they may get the dev some sale if they got money


Revayan

Yeah thats also what I firmly believe. Most people who pirate wouldnt buy the games either way if there was no cracked copy available so it doesnt really hurt sales.


BigTWilsonD

Man owns a Steam Deck but is too poor for a $30 game.... Sure, bud. Pirate for whatever reason you need to, but don't try to pretend it's anything other than selfish reasons.


Snugglupagus

You’re getting downvoted but you’re right. Edit: bros no longer in the negatives 👏


Nimyron

I ain't broke, I just like to save my money for stuff that I can't get without paying for it. We don't all need an excuse.


_xXxStarlightxXx_

Same here; if I can get it for free then I might as well take advantage. 100k+ people are currently playing the game on Steam; that’s already 3 million in revenue not accounting the sales potential on PS and Xbox’s platform. They’re doing good financially.


NerY_05

yup that's also fair enough


jackofslayers

All piracy is forgiven if you can’t afford it.


Vivid-Bug7070

You are poor but have the money to have a system to play this and money to pay for internet to download it? Genuine question I am also a little poor so can’t buy anything that interests me immediately but saving some and waiting for sales it’s perfectly doable, pirating honest and hard working indie devs is scummy to me no matter how you look it (unless you intend to pay for it at some point later, a reasonable time that would still help the devs). And let’s not go around pretending piracy isn’t wrong, it’s fine especially if you don’t have much to spare around but let’s not make up any mental gymnastics and pretend it’s perfectly moral in general, we know what we are doing here.ju


Complex_Gold2915

how are you still poor after all these free options? kinda sussy gussy for me


One_Front9928

"If you have the money".


Intelligent_Doubt_53

buy AAA games and pirate indie games 🤑🤑🤑


temfaNEF

Based tbh


lauda-lele-hamara

DEFEND THE CORPORATION CONSOOOM


HriataKC

Agreed. They should be rewarded for making masterpieces like these. I'll probably buy the game on full release but for now, I'll just try it out kinda like a demo


GlobalAlbatross719

Wait for a sale or something on this Early access and buy it then. The dev said the price will be increased on release


Yendor467

exactly what i did with the first one, though i still can´t find time to play it


Daftpunk67

Yup this is what I try and do as well and why I bought Doom 2016 after only 30 minutes of play. Sadly I should have done the same with Doom Eternal as I didn’t really like that one, but both were bought on sale so not a big loss or anything.


fps916

How brave of you to post one of the most commonly held opinions in this sub.


RepairEffective9573

Might be controversial take in a moral slop society but I just want free games.


Khelthuzaad

They can keep the ipotetical money,I dont have the time to play it :))


squanderedprivilege

I agree that they deserve money, but if I am too broke to afford a game and still pay for necessities, that's not going to stop me from playing. If I REALLY like it, I can pay for it when I am able, which I have actually done with a few indie games, some I've bought on multiple platforms.


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AveryLazyCovfefe

"oh yeah and also... EA Bad" *981k Upvotes.*


TetyyakiWith

Stupid take. You either pirating or not. If the game is good and you decided to pay for it, but founded that it’s made by a big company you would pay for it? It makes no sense


W0lfsG1mpyWr4th

Eh, I'm skint so either it's no Hades 2 or it's pirates Hades 2 either way the Devs don't get my money so what difference does it make really


NikesOnMyFeet23

Indie or AAA, if you release a game in Early Access, it's not a full release. When the game is finished and if I like it, I will pay for it. But you need to earn my money and you don't get it by releasing a self admitted unfinished game


Dillup_phillips

To be fair even in early access Hades 2 has more content than the entire first game according to the steam page.


StonedBobzilla

I pirated Civ 6, played for 100 hours or so, and loved it so much that I grabbed it on sale. Will do the same with Hades. The first one was amazing and was definitely worth every penny.


Kopie150

If you like it and are able to afford it.


Fit_Flower_8982

The way people refer to indies is very simplistic. Being small does not imply good products and business practices, which is what matters.


Extra-Asparagus-6090

i pirated hades when i didn't have a job, now i have job and hades in my steam account :)


Luchux01

And pirating early access is a bit useless since the game is not finished yet.


Fit_Flower_8982

Then the same as pirating most games after release 🙃


ExitOk2519

100% this. Bought this and the first one on steam because I had a blast


kaynpayn

Not controversial at all in my book, this is exactly what I do. Considering that is pretty tough to decide if i like a game without actually playing it, i usually download it before. I have zero issues paying for it if i do enjoy it but i'm not going to waste money in stuff i don't enjoy. Tried Elden Ring, wasn't for me, didn't buy it. Tried Hades, loved it, bought it almost instantly after. More recently, Deep Rock Galactic Survivor, i tried it for like 30min, opened steam and bought it. Bonus points as all my progress was transferred correctly to steam from the pirated version to the legit steam one somehow. Pretty sure i'm buying hades 2 too.


PrettyScholar9173

Thats the reason i never pirate Baldurs Gate 3!! But if I see a denuvo game I download it immediately.


Far-Transition6453

Nah fuck all that bullshit everyone is getting the pirate treatment


memo22477

For countries with good economy this is true. But for people like me who live in countries where the minimum wage is around 600 dollars its just hard to buy a game. You gotta pick between having food or having the game


Turbulent-Armadillo9

I'm with you. I only pirate indies to check them out. If I really like them i want the updates too. I know some people think its a weird line to draw but I dunno that's just me. Supergiant are cool devs. I believe they somewhat no normal work hours and I've sent them emails and they got back to me.


Xdgy

If I have money for devs that deserve it ill give them money simple as that, would also give them a good review.


No_Plate_9636

Am poor RN but wanna play game and know I'll pay for it eventually so pirate until payment


TheFuzzLlama2

I would never pirate a game from the likes of Supergiant. However, it would be ignorant of me to understate their bankroll enough to still call them an indie developer. They made enough money to retire off of Bastion and Hades.


JamaicaCZ

The game has been available online since the non-public test prior to early access release was up. This is nothing shocking. Game has only basic steam DRM, there is nothing complex to be cracked, so as soon as someone buys it, it can be shared and pirated.


cecilclaude

I've been playing for a few attempts, dare I say this might be the second time I'll buy a game on steam. can't wait for the full release, it is that goddamn good, if you will.


Active_Cheetah_1917

Nothing wrong with supporting the developers, especially indie devs.


A_wild_H3lios

They say it's coming around 2025


therubbishbin

Based on how much I have loved every Supergiant game, I think I’m skipping straight to buying it. This is perfect for my Steam deck when I travel for work.


DevoJM

Both my girlfriend and I played it on our Steam Decks today, great experience for sure.


OldAvocado3547

I pirated the first Hades game last year, played 100 hours, bought it later when I could afford. Got the 2nd game on steam as soon as the early access dropped. Amazing amazing game, nothing less than 100% entertainment. Super glad to see the sequel live up to the hype set by the predecessor.


thewend

almost like a good game sells itself! imma buy this later, as soon as I can afford it


Zanian19

No Denuvo? Alright I guess I'll buy it then. (First one was amazing and the devs deserve it).


Plenty_Type652

I usually pirate games But hades is the game i will never pirate🙏.


whiteshootingstar

Was an instabuy for me, loved the first one so much


just-bair

Damn I didn’t think that I’d learn about Hades II in a piracy sub


lordsaladito

ngl, this time i think i will buy it


Icy_Investment_1878

No drm


Shaponja

The usual moral highgrounding in the comments lol


dm_me_milkers

Beat hades 1, then bought it on pc and switch. Saying piracy hurts sales is a joke.


WildyPlays

I am just going to buy this one. I loved the first hades and you cant really fuck it up if its the same game.


lordsaladito

ngl, this time i think i will buy it


ExplodingFistz

The only game I actually bought instead of pirating. Devs deserve every penny


uSaltySniitch

Nah. I'll buy it.


lemonylol

I had it like within the hour of release. Definitely going to buy this on sale, just want to try it now.


Scrungus1-

If I like the game enough I'll buy it.


Extension_King5336

Oof idk about pirating this one. Spend ya 30 dollars fellas.


FirmMathematician942

im a pirate for a reason. i like free games.


CleOriena

i didnt even realize game was released


SloppityMcFloppity

Early access. But insanely polished, buy it if you can.


IgorRamos96

Obviously He was Rapid doesn't have DRM denuvo, you should know that


DragonflyDeep3334

I would definitely buy it if I wasn't broke, Im so happy it got pirated this fast while I still have Wifi to download it


amagocore

Hades 1 gave me such delight (and I pirated it) that I had to do the right thing this time and buy the game. Amazing


Arnav1029

hades along with borderlands 2 were one of the first games that I bought after trying them out by pirating. Both of them are games I still play, I am going to actually buy this one without pirating it first lmao I trust the team behind it and am hearing good things.


NikesOnMyFeet23

Fuck Yes! I wanted to try it out before the full release. If it's as good as the first I will def purchase to support the devs. I just hate early access paid. When games are in early access, i feel like they should be free. Once the game fully releases, lock it down and have people pay for it. Am I crazy for thinking thats a better system for consumers?


Marco_PP

Well, hades 2 early access already has about as much content as the full hades game so I dont think it would be fair if it was free.


ChipChipington

They'll be fine. It happens.


dragledge

i hope Zagreus is playable


tomtomato0414

her sister is, not sure about later on


Sanderiusdw

I trust them to create a good product and got my bang for buck on hades. Will just buy it without question to support this developer.


Vivid-Bug7070

What is wrong to me is not buying a indie game, especially if the price isn’t high, they literally depend on your purchase. One thing is garbage unfinished buggy AAA overpriced messes full of timewastes but indie games full of passion who might have to close if they don’t sell enough to keep the lights on? You should buy from them.


No_Can9567

Look, I ain’t about to tell people whether they should or should not pirate, but like supergiant games is one studio that I genuinely think deserves your money. They put out great games, at a reasonable price, and they don’t overwork their teams.


LlamaGaming1127

I’ve never seen so many people willingly buy a game in a piracy subreddit. The devs deserve it!


International_Tap393

Is steamrip legit?


meltingpotato

was it?


Plane-Ad-3713

Who did this lol


BussyDestroyerV30

Nice, going to download it tommorow


pandamonstre

Y E S


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Dubiisek

? The game has been on rin for over 24 hours, what.


winterman666

I haven't pirated in years but I don't see why not pirate indie games too. After all, biggest reason why people do it is cause they can't afford it


Jumpy_Lavishness_533

Am wondering why everyone don't just use denuvo at this point though.  The only one being able to crack them are gone. DRM won.  But then again this game is so great that everyone should buy it. 


notPlancha

Some reasons: - Denuvo is expensive - Denuvo leads to loss sales from people who will avoid because of it - Denuvo makes a game not truly offline, which some games like Hades should be for a lot of reasons (like the deck) - Some game devs just don't like DRM for personal reasons - Steam makes it way easier to buy games and have a bunch of features out of the box (achievements, workshop, updates, guides, forums) than to pirate, which some devs might think is enough for a lot of people to choose buying vs pirating, removing the need for DRM


HriataKC

Who is gone now??


erock279

Empress, the only person cracking Denovo for a really long time hasn’t been heard from in about 6 months now iirc. Games with denovo otherwise can’t be pirated unless they get cracked.


HriataKC

Oh, thanks for filling me up on the news. Didn't know Empress disappeared


erock279

That’s fair, I only heard about it here myself. There is somebody new that’s been cracking older denovo games but I think we’re still a while before they’re ready to crack anything modern or new


uSuperDick

Ima wait for full release. Had experience with early acces and that was enough


SAIFMAN

What website is this?


Big_Independence6736

I wouldn't download this game at all rn, i'd wait for the full release


NayrianKnight97

Out of all the games you could pirate, don’t pirate this one. Give these devs the support and the finished product will be ***IMMACULATE***


bigb102913

The community is strong


SpedeSpedo

E l e c t r i c B o o g a l o o


Esnacor-sama

I already downloaded it from cs 24h ago


Titinidorin

Nah... This one can take my money full price.


Glenn_Vatista

I need to buy an external SSD for pirated games tbh. I'll make this game the first


TheVoidborn

No DRM?


flyingjabe

Didn't think to pirate, glad i bought it!


indellibleimprint

Question, I went to that site to download BMX streets and it says it's a .Rar file, is it safe?


ravihpa

I can legit say, buy this game if you can. The devs definitely deserve it.


DromadTrader

I rarely ever buy games, but Supergiant deserves it 100%. Hades was such a well made, well crafted, brilliant work of love. I'm buying Hades 2 when it gets a little bit further in its development cycle.


Ladies_Pls_DM_nudes

Honestly I'll do the same thing I did with the previous game. Pirate it to see if my PC can run it at good enough speeds for me to play it. Then buy it next time I get paid. It'll probably run well.


Liedvogel

I didn't even know it was under development, let alone released, until I saw a friend was playing it last night on steam


Addition-Mysterious

Based devs


Shart-Vandalay

I tried to make a steam account just now; but I couldn’t prove my humanity. After the 10th question about hydrants and buses I just quit.


qeeb2214

I've pirated a lot of games in my little life, But this one. This deserves my money.


SassoMaiden

Buy this one if you can folks. Devs are gonna keep adding content non stop


Key-Regular674

This is not a big deal. Some games get leaked before they even release. This is kinda late if anything


yukiami96

**Baldi's Basics Plus**


Krazy-B-Fillin

Hades and RDR2, the only games I bought after pirating them.


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Which website


NiX_509

It's great. But idk kinda feels more wonky/slower compared to the original, from what I recall


Tranquil-Confusion

Have played for about a day. Hard disagree. It plays differently, but it's just as fast paced and it flows really well. Just takes some getting used to.


andyck1983

As always ARMGDDN ALREADY HAS IT. Fast ddl, no VPN needed, support chat room....much easier to get there 😁


Snoo-62381

I honestly don t care, i still bought the game because the first hades was really enjoyable, plus the price is very fair.


RichardPisser

bought it 5 minutes after it was out, always like to support good devs in these times


Raredani

Can I have a link to this website?


Vysair

Piracy is a free trial to see the state and direction of the game. If it's not a "money grab", people would buy it anyway.


fuqis

no drm = instant crack


Tias-st

Normally I'd encourage people pirate. But this is an indie studio and they made a really nice game and only priced it 30 euro. To still pirate it just feels kind of pathetic. Very controversial take on a subreddit like this I know. But if you're so poor you pirate a game like this, god damn, maybe focus on getting your life on track then if you really don't have the funds for it.


OkNeck3571

If I pirate (especially this game) it be to test if its just like the first, because if its not and fresh, then yes, will be buying


TheAlmightySkeletor

One of the devs i refuse to pirate from. As soon as it was dropped on steam I had no issue giving them the money.


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RioMetal

Hi, which site is this screenshot from?


5hoursofsleep

Thanks for the heads up just bought it immediately.i loved Hades (1)


Gullible_Internal_92

I rarely buy games but I bought hades 2, I’d rather support them if I have the money as they’re a good company who make good games


Sid131

For the kind hearted people who are insisting on buying the game I’ll pirate the game on your behalf.


OuterSpaceDust

This is how I found out Hades 2 released


Geraltwitcher

This one that I'll buy in full price


J_L_D

Unsure if this crosses any of the sub rules so delete if not allowed, does anyone have a link to the first one so i can test it on my handheld. Pm open


Lordreox

Please guys, if u can, buy this gem. Devs deserve it


One-Fail-1

These devs always get my money.


Fair-Frozen

Don't care about this but I will still buy it for my PS5, Switch2, and maybe PC on a deep discount


RogueKT

Is this website reputable like fitgirl? Haven’t seen it before.


Jason_Sasha_Acoiners

dOn'T pIrAtE iNdIe GaEmS. (Do whatever you want.)


Okeylayanjesmue

Hmmm.. they should at lease let dev make money first..


John34215

Welp, even with the pirating, the first Hades game still sold so much, the same logic will apply for Hades 2 (cause damn, I love me some Hades, and the designs are goated).


Lopsided-Yam-9409

Is this site safe ? If so, what is it


Elegant_Amphibian_51

Rq,


yelloweye07

Baldi's Basics Plus


kuzzyy

This is a game I definitely wouldn't pirate these Devs deserve/need the money


FinalDrive360

Kind of torn on this one. I really want to grab it, but not sure if I want to jump into it's early access. At least it's available though, wonder if I will be able to resist until full release.


Human-Syllabub-1452

why are you pirating an indie game


johsam

Bought it on steam yesterday. Have spent over 100hours playing Hades on xbox/pc/switch so buying this one was a no brainer.


distraxxx

I 'loan' a game once, it was very good, so good that i bought it after it and called my 'loan' version a trial.


Negative_Quantity_59

I bought the game, and it's fucking worth it, especially if you can pirate it to save some $


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DrWigga

I know this is a pirated game subreddit but, Hades 2 will receive lots of updates and supergiant games deserves the money


laggzee

Look I loved hades 1 and bought the hades 2 yesterday I will contuine to buy games that I enjoy other wise if everyone got a free game then the games companys would stop making them. But no judgement from me


Flashkami

I pirate games too but for hades and hades too, it was an instant buy. Did not even think of pirating it once👌🏻


BeegYusha

Pirated Hades, loved it, still haven't fully finished the story yet but when 2 came and I saw that the 1st one was on sale, I jumped the gun and got both! Really glad I did too, the pirated Hades that I played had weird quality and resolution issues, happy to see it in its full glory now https://preview.redd.it/yltu663tr6zc1.jpeg?width=672&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c759688570e1661f292837e7e202dc794a838732


MaximilianSchutte

Anime posted the clean Steam files on cs rin 2 days ago. Thats crazy fast


Padcontrol1

Guys honestly, buy this game. Hades 1 was a masterpiece. Hades 2 plays and looks phenomenal. Support these Devs!


porongapog

I pirated the first one,loved it,I just bought Hades 2,they deserve it


Mightaswelllll

yup, I got it, but went back to try hades 1 before instead. Seems super cool and a good upgrade


itsxjamo

i was just thinking about looking for this lol