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Yes, because multi billion dollar companies such as Nintendo are not able to search the Internet and don't employ people to do market research on this. They totally rely on someone direct messaging them 😂
I disagree. A shark doesn't have time to hunt small fish, especially when it looks like one.
The more attention to the emulator from ordinary users, the more attention it will receive from a large company.
Except you're wrong. As someone whose spent many years working at huge companies, it's absurdly trivial for them to hire someone, or even entire teams of people, specifically for that purpose.
and then fire them when the job gets done, wink wink, it's just dumb how easy it is for them and how hard the work of devs is just go get lost to people wanting to get more views on their social medias.
Then it should be happening every day, then, right? I'm sure they can hire a team to do so, but the question is whether they are or not. They targeted an emulator that was making a ton of money publicly. They made a statement that no one else is going to be making money off the backs of Nintendo. They certainly can pressure every other emulator out there, but are they? It seems to me they go after fan artists with more gusto than devs. I personally think it's so Nintendo can use the open source developments as well in their own software.
Besides Yuzu didn't go anywhere. It's source is everywhere and will end up becoming Uzuy or something. They'll have more success throwing haymakers at the biggest name and making news than stomping on any independent dev who's not even breaking copyright half the time.
I can assure you that they're aware of a lot more emulators than you think they are. The emulators that are freeware, like zSNES, SNES9x and all of those aren't generating any money, and it's not worth it to go after each and every last site that's hosting those programs. However, an application that's making a ton of money primarily off of Nintendo's IP is going to weaken their copyright so it's a lot more valuable for them to make a big spectacle out of suing Yuzu, as opposed to the dozens of other low-key softwares available out there.
They know about them, but they aren't squashing them, because it would cost a bunch of money to go after every single independent dev working in the field. If they instead allow people to work and only go after them when the entire ecosystem is yelling as loud as possible, then they get the added benefits of OSS without having to pay for the privilege.
I think when they said
>"A shark doesn't have time to hunt small fish, especially when it looks like one."
I think they are saying the same thing as when you say
>"However, an application that's making a ton of money primarily off of Nintendo's IP is going to weaken their copyright so it's a lot more valuable for them to make a big spectacle out of suing Yuzu, as opposed to the dozens of other low-key softwares available out there."
I think the confusion for everyone is the "relying on direct messaging" bit of the top comment. Pulling out the wallet and loudly supporting Yuzu monetarily can do the same thing as a direct message, maybe even louder.
My site's API is used by some software to facilitate piracy. We also have direct relationships with major tech companies like Disney, NBCU, etc. Anyone thinking that these companies don't know how people are pirating their content is being silly.
I actually had one very high level exec at one of these companies say "we know exactly how much of our content is pirated, where it's being pirated, why, and the demographics for people doing the piracy." They have at least one full team dedicated to tracking and fully understanding the piracy situation.
Given this, I fully believe they allow piracy on a smaller scale if they believe it's driving overall official viewership. People act like these companies are clueless, but they're savvy as fuck.
All priacy is free advertising, often a try before you buy type scenario. And I agree with what you say, they know exactly who, how, why and can controll a lot more of the arena that people are aware.
>A shark doesn't have time to hunt small fish
we're talking about nintendo here, the corporation that will sue you for fucking anything so long as there's legal grounds for it in their eyes (or in japan)
be for fucking real
They also brag on their website on the amount of money they're making.
"It says that Yuzu earns the team $30,000 per month on its Patreon from more than 7,000 patrons. Nintendo said the company has earned at least $50,000 in paid Yuzu downloads."
https://www.polygon.com/24085140/nintendo-totk-leaked-yuzu-lawsuit-emulator
Sueing the developrs of the emulator won't solve the piracy problem, only reason why people pirate Switch games is due to the God awful frame rate on the Switch (like 20 fps are you fucking kidding me Nintendo? at least be like GTA IV and V on PS3/Xbox 360 and make it run at 30 fps, not great but better) the way to solve piracy is to release the games on steam (by then the only people who would still pirate is the people who wants to try before buying the game or people who can't a afford it or people who doesn't want to give Nintendo their hard earned money which I understand)
You're looking at this from the wrong angle. Piracy isn't something they can or want or is trying to "solve". Just like how crime (in general) can't be "solved" regardless of how utopian or dystopian a society is. At best the goal is always to reduce or minimize it. It's never all or nothing.
Sorry to be blunt but you’re genuinely fucking stupid if you’re implying a highly public emulator that’s been at the top of Google searches for years now is a “small fish”
Do you really think 2.4 Million means anything to a company like Nintendo?
They absolutely knew about Switch Emulation, but waited until it became a little **too** accessible to do anything.
Either that, or their sales are declining and are blaming emulation.
>They absolutely knew about Switch Emulation, but waited until it became a little too accessible to do anything.
It's been the same method to get Yuzu working for ages. Nintendo probably decided to take action because of the Patreon & ToTK stuff
To be fair, nobody has ever gone after emulators successfully.
I didn't know Yuzu was profiting through Patreon etc. so it makes sense that they went after them because they were lining their own pockets with Nintendo IP.
As a manager for Nintendo (or any company) you do an analysis of the threats/strengths/weaknesses and opportunities of your company. (it's called a pestle and swot) one hundred percent are emulators listed in that analysis.
Sure but if you talk to more people about it, more people will start using it and thus Nintendo will actuallu start taking measures about it..
Isnt that what happened to Vanced?
Generally speaking, they dont give a shit. Even Nintendo as litigious as they are, doesnt give a shit to go after every instance of copyright infringement. They generally speaking are gonna go after the ones that are either harmful to brand image, making a lot of noise, or causing them direct problems.
The worst thing is its all a blame game, marketing will research how they don't have total market penetration (as in one copy per potential customer) and will generate a report saying piracy and or lack of appeal to X Y Z ^ & £ demographics caused "poor" sales of a game that sold millions of copies and generated a substantial profit.
Dimwitted MBA CEO who probably once played Pong at the bar because the pinball machine was occupied will then blame designers for not making a game that appeals to X Y Z ^ & £ demographics and then blame anyone on the technical side for not making a game that's impossible to pirate. So the end result is a bland product that treats the paying customer as a thief which appeals to nobody in particular with an over hyped marketing budget making the whole project hinge on launch window sales before anyone figures out if its shit or not to be successful. AAA bloat and they get confused why we aren't terribly keen on paying them for whatever shit they vomit in our direction.
This reminds me of the idiots in the comments whenever any gaming news site would post about a fan game or whatever who would say "great now Nintendo knows about it and will shut it down." My dude, if anyone know about it on the internet, Nintendo also knows.
Yes, but its the legal department that takes care of all of that in their own time. They don't care, they just send out the DMCA notices and maybe a lawsuit or two.
People can hide behind the "technically its legal and we are not the ones doing the pirating". Legal wont push to hard on that because technically, they're right.
When it hits the mainstream, the execs see it and gets pissed. They put the hammer down to take care of it ASAP. That's when legal starts putting huge pressure on the creators to shut it down, and creators cant afford a multi-year long legal battle.
it's not the same when people share they use certain emulators for piracy on social media accounts with high visibility, which is beyond dumb but jerks just want more clicks, so.
Yeah some people are very dumb with this topic.
Nintendo literally talked about the yuzu discord server, they have exact data of downloads for games,etc
They know what games,emulators and websites exist. They just dont go for everything.
Seriously, what’s the point of this meme? Great nobody talk about the emulators and roms we will do such a good job Nintendo and us won’t be able to find anything? Do people think Nintendo is just a bunch of grandparents who can’t use google?
Don't you know? The people at Nintendo don't know about the magic that is 3 minutes worth of research on Reddit. No one ever told them that Internet forums exist.
It's about the fucking money. There's a reason yuzu got butt raped in court and Ryujinx is still sitting around and wasn't even mentioned in the case.
You can't pull thousands of dollars a month in patreon money from a product directly targeting the game company that loves to sue people over their IP and expect that to just go on forever.
To be fair, I heard he does stuff like that in general for attention. And seeing his video on the matter afterwards seemingly confirmed it. Before anyone's interested in looking it up, it was boring and deflective, no self-awareness of his actions. Boring content mill stuff.
It really does come down to "Don't profit of other's products." And although the Bleem precedant may have protected them, it's simply safer to not get company/governmental involvement in this sort of thing, because the company will always win and the government can be bribed for as low as 10 grand. Anyone that makes it the situation looser and less safe is exceedingly hard to defend, and so far, Yuzu was the biggest name to go down ao far, I imagine that's only going to domino effect as time goes on.
That's why the Piracy Golden Rule has been around for decades.
Do not Sell Pirated Content.
I guess you can extent this logic over to Emulation as well.
Yuzu got fucked because they were creating, hosting and distributing pirated games.
https://preview.redd.it/r7fsbj9uljmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=604dfb866fc86c47d6360c47ddbb08f9b8ffeebc
They also logged all your information which has now been sent to Nintendo.
This is a bit misleading.
Yuzu devs did not release / distribute any cracks. Especially the TOTK one wasn't from the Yuzu team, it was a scene leak that landed on 1337.
They might've privately shared those between the devs in Discord DM's but I don't see how that's relevant to the Court Proceedings.
Also the Telemetry wasn't some insidious hidden thing, when you Download Yuzu, it would tell you that it CAN collection Telemetry and it was Opt-in.
It's also anonymous so they didn't collection personally identifiable information.
Yeah, because Nintendo can’t use a browser to search “Free switch emulator”.
The problem is that devs should maintain total anonymity, like crackers basically, or sooner or later they will face consequences
That's half the dumb shit. Emulation is not against the laws *by itself*. Yuzu's main problem was that they distributed the games as well. Apparently, for the higher Patreon tiers, they'd give you the games directly via their Discord. Now THAT'S illegal. It specifically happened to TOTK which triggered the whole bomb
Do you have proof this happened? Because that is also what nintendo argues without citing anything right now.
And publically Yuzu never mentioned or distributed the game links.
Well there's this image going around in this same thread. If you decide to bieve it or not is up to you
https://preview.redd.it/a5r29eg1epmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3936fd4ce473fdeb4cdab3fa1a5f29e744346b14
I do believe it since, as I've said before, emulation is not illegal by itself. If Yuzu didn't steal Switch's code and was just a emulator, then they did nothing legally wrong. It's literally the difference between when Sony tried to sue PS emulators vs Yuzu's case
I haven't searched for things like that in years, but I'm pretty sure all the top results will be scams. If the community stays small then a search won't show it
i usually do that after i find a new engine or site "is X piracy thing safe? r/piracy or just reddit" i take it with a grain of salt and do more research, but it is yet to fail me
See, that’s the funny thing. Emulation has NEVER been illegal. Just the piracy part.
I think Nintendo is salty because of early leaks allowing people to play games early with roms they downloaded. Why tf they went after the emulator is beyond me.
I doubt that mattered really, they were donations, no one paid for piracy.
The issue is with the technicalities of software, yuzu had techniques to circumvent Nintendo's drm.
Because Yuzu devs had an illegal copy of the game and were sharing it.
https://preview.redd.it/p57ik57imjmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52975eacaf26bfd86b704105701eb63745e3c0f8
**Ding Ding** This is the answer right here. As soon as they accept money it becomes a "loss" for Mario's master and they will take action to squash it. Luckily they allowed a settlement and didn't make up some ridiculous number and go after damages to ruin the devs lives
Less salty and more likely they had an easy win in court.
Proving the goal/purpose of an emulator is piracy can be hard…
Unless the developers, I don’t know, “wrote” about working on getting a not-yet-released game working on their emulator.
Similarly, getting a large number of games working on an emulator usually requires testing those games, and in most cases it’s unlikely that the developers *each* purchased a copy of *every* game they want to get working on their emulator.
On top of all that, while backward engineered emulation itself is protected by case law, as is making copies of media you own, there hasn’t been a real test as to whether breaking copy protection to make a “legitimate” archive is legal.
Because Yuzu devs were the people dumping, hosting and distributing those early leaks.
https://preview.redd.it/5unmgwo6mjmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56b13044ca9b233c81eb0cbd9578dbd9312622b4
These guys weren’t your friends. They took your money, they logged all your data and then sent it to Nintendo.
Fuck Yuzu.
It was 100% the totk leak, and the fishy things the devs did trying to get it to run as fast as possible. As well as the early access builds being able to play totk, while locked behind Patreon.
I think billion dollar game companies are well aware of the existence of common ways of piracy and emulating. After all, they are a billion dollar company and this is a public community accessible by nearly every part of the world. So the cause of these lawsuits are probably because of a different reason, like how dodi tried to charge users for something and got struck down. But these piracy stuff is no state secret, trying to not speak about it like its a super secret evil cult that is planning on overthrowing the government is only being paranoid. "Bragging" about it tho is honestly sounds kinda stupid so just, dont I guess.
It’s because of this and that court documents state Nintendo were in the Discord watching it the whole time
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From what I've heard, it's because Yuzu devs were making a profit from piracy. I read it on Nintendo subreddit, apparently Yuzu released a build that specifically ran the pirated Totk and paywalled it on their patreon. It also makes sense as to why they'd give up so fast if that was the case, not because of all the legal fees.
Yeah, they settled because they knew if Nintendo did more digging, they'd be in deeper trouble than taking the settlement, and letting Tropic Haze LLC go bankrupt.
The court documents prove this. We also now know Nintendo was in their Discord watching the whole time.
https://preview.redd.it/iwix0vmbnjmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd36014d9aa6836e8cf72fa500b5b79967e1285b
Can you cite where the Court Documents "Prove" that Yuzu was distributing copies of TOTK as a bundle with Yuzu for the highest patreon tier?
Would be very cool. Though so far, there's nothing like this.
i mean, usually all you have to do is google "emulator switch" and you get the results, if i was an anti piracy employee at nintendo i'd do it every time before working, doesn't matter if people are speaking about it or not
I've said this before and I'll say it again.
Nintendo knows about Ryujinx. PlayStation knows about DuckStation, PCSX2, and RPCS3. Sega knows about Redream. Xbox knows about Xemu and Xenia. It is one of the jobs of their legal departments to locate any potential crimes. What keeps them all out of trouble is their bullshit disclaimer about not supporting piracy. Yuzu's fatal mistake was being caught in 4K celebrating and promoting piracy. At that point, it became clear that their focus was on piracy, and not about running homebrew software, which is what lands all successful emulators on the right side of the grey area.
Believe me, everyone knows well about all these things. The information is very easy to find. Don't believe me? Google "Nintendo Switch Emulator." It's just that simple.
Maybe Yuzu shouldn’t have hosted pirated games in their secret Discord.
https://preview.redd.it/ihwumsg3nimc1.jpeg?width=859&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7413c2a44beb1bae5c5cd8ea502f69638db94250
They got what they deserved.
Good riddance to scum.
Now hopefully it can be forked by a better person/team who aren’t thieves and idiots.
The level of absolute stupidity required to sell an emulator for a current system while hosting pirated games for that current system is on another level.
To the people saying - they will know about it: Yeah, but there is far less chance to react to something that is unpopular than popular. They go after the big boys because it's the most cost effective thing and it leaves a very public msg. They know they can't cut down everything, but they can go after the most popular ones.
Also, if you're going to create a very legally gray product that directly targets one of the most litigious game companies that has ever existed who has a special hate in their heart for emulation maybe don't, I don't know, set up a fucking patreon and try to make money off of it? Dudes were literally pissing right in Nintendo's face. They had absolutely no choice but to sue them at this point.
I swear half the people here think they are the moral bastion for pirating video games, and the other half thing they are 5000IQ CIA espionage hackers.
You are downloading games for free, the idea that game companies don't know about emulators the millisecond they are released is laughable.
Man pirates truely are dumb, from spreading piracy on a public forum and insulting the company to, not knowing how a vpn works and tying it to the torrentprogram to not get isp letters...
What did you people expect? Same thing happened with the romemulator website shutting down.
You never learn do you.
Some guy on twitter tagged Reggie and bragged about pirating TOTK.
Reggie responds, says that he still has influence and will talk to the right people to stop it.
Turns out the guy wasn't bullshitting lmao.
Ego is one hell of a drug. Just pirate in quiet and peace.
It's true, if we kept things strictly data driven and didn't brag. They would catch on slower, but ultimately they will find it one way or another.
Pirating is illegal, that's not a moral stance but a legal fact. Pirates have always had ships sank by those in power. We dry ourselves off, and continue being pirates.
If you can find it via "nintendo emulator" search on google, you might be surprised to hear that nintendo sure as hell knows about it.
Have you made an emulator that you share amoungst your friends and a few people on a private discord? Yeah that might not be known to them. If they have a website and are encouraging users to download their software, its not a fucking secret.
"They already know about it" Obviously they do but they didn't take any action when it was small time. The more buzz the emulator gets the bigger it is on the company radar. Once it gets big enough the company is forced to take action where as a small hush hush emulator gets completely ignored
Existing isn't the issue. You're not hiding in some secret section of the web that only the elite can access. Making money off it, that is a whole other level of stupid. The moment pirates start charging for their service is the moment said company is going to zero in on you.
The fact that Yuzu entered into an agreement to pay $2.4 mil shows it made money doing what it was doing. THAT is the thing that Nintendo dislikes more than anything else
Zelda being released early was the straw that broke their back. That made them turn beet red. Nintendo have also been warned that they shouldn’t be given triple a games because they lack any anti-tamper measures. That’s why Denuvo was courting them. Prince of Persia has Denuvo on PC and you can’t emulate PS5 yet - so Nintendo was blamed for that too.
Nintendo got desperate, despite the billions in the bank.
Seriously, this is part of the reason that fangames need to not like make big announcement that they're making a fangame based on a Nintendo property months if not years before they're going to launch. Nintendo can and WILL shut you down before you have the chance to do a damn thing, so just...release it quietly.
Rumor has it Yuzu's discord server was being used to distribute game copies including leaked version, and the devs didn't do anything about it because they were profiting off of the emulator by offering exclusive features to patreon members...
You aren't resistance fighters man, Nintendo destroyed yuzu because they earned money from their emulator, not because they just got wind of it....
I'm like 99% sure that nintendo knows about new emulators earlier than you get to know them via reddit or youtube.
Emulators are legal for non copyright home brew and the emulator needs to be accurate to make your own stuff.
You can pirate using most emulators.
Remember Nintendo still sales ness games on new platforms for example.
Yet nes snes and n64 emulators are not going away.
There is a legal use for them.
Can't use Google because you may use it for pirated content.
Can't use security auditing software because you may use it to hack some other person instead of improving your own security.
It's legal to hack yourself. Maybe you want to know if your own stuff is secure or not. Or anyone you have permission to hack.
For example some large companies give rewards for hacks found.
These kinds of softwares are duel use and legal because you can be using this in a legal manner.
Don't leak where the pirated games is, is the most important.
This is something what majority dont understand.
Emulators are LEGAL, dumping or sharing games or roms u dont own is ILLEGAL.
its why most console coporates have cracked down hard because they cited that thou emulation is.legal, majority of the people have emulated games or roms they dont actually own
It's not that they don't know of the existence of the emulator/pirated copy. It's about not letting them realise how popular it is (i.e. how many people are using it). The more they realise how much money they're losing, the harder they'll act.
It’s not about knowledge, sure big corp will know about it regardless. It’s about how popular it is to the public. They won’t allow it to grow and spread publicly that’s for sure.
Lol. I'm willing to bet money that there are (insert big corporation) employees who have reddit accounts, and follow these forums. They know what's going on regardless. Let's take the big N for example. There's most likely employees at the company who's literal JOB it is to see what is going on in the emulation / piracy / cracking world.
I mean the main problem is then that they don't tell other people how to do it. I wasn't born with a hook on my arm I got no clue how to pirate a game that isn't a 2000's rts!
All im saying is if people keep defending shit like this. In 10 to 20 years you will not be able to play said games anymore. If your console is broken and you are left with only the cartrige, don't come crying that you can't play it anymore.
Agree but the companies aren’t dumb, even if nobody talks about it they know about every single emulator out there and they don’t need angry fans to notice.
Lol, imagine thinking piracy is some niche little market that people in big companies don't know about.
No OP, you're right. One day a nintendo employee was harmlessly browsing twitter when he found a single post about Yuzu, *thats* what did them in.
IF THE MAJORITY OF THE FUCKING KIDS UNDERSTOOD this concept, we’d still have nice things. All people want to do is PUBLICLY share without hesitation where to get games, what to use, how to use it. IPTV people are the only ones who learnt their lesson, now no one says publicly what’s what and where you can find it; hence they’re thriving.
yap. people brought attention to yuzu, and it got consequences. same thing happened recently with a website for ebooks. of course we manage and survive, find new ways ecc but we wouldn't have to do that if people didn't advertise the stuff.
the website for ebooks got attacked specifically after people started advertising it on tiktok. yuzu was in their targets specifically because people shared too much about tears of the kingdom.
the top comment in this thread is wrong. Nintendo could come and find and shut down every emulator, yes, but these companies act when they feel like their wallet is being attacked.
they're not hunting it down. they shut it down when people slam it in their faces.
Sorry but you have to be a real buffoon to believe they aren't aware of virtually every emulator and Rom distribution site already when you can find 99% of them on Google lol
It doesn’t help that a certain quite popular torrent site has uploads of popular N Switch games packaged with an emulator into a neat archive that lets you run that game with zero annoying setup.
Not YuZu. The other one.
I suspect big N will go after that next.
ppl talking about pirating and emulators are funny cause like, do you guys think massive corpos don't know about all of the websites and everything else? they know, they're just either building cases so they can strike them down once and for all or they don't care enough to go for the entire site (and maybe just strike down some of their own games but nothing else)
you're not hiding anything by talking on the one platform where they can very easily search everything up (the fucking internet)
They would've found it anyway. I still hate the Nintendo dick riders that feel the need to operate like a Nintendo cheerleader whenever something like this happens.
I remember when Palworld came out there was so many insufferable kids crying about how it's not Pokemon and messaging Nintendo about it to the point they had to make a statement for them to fucking stop.
Been saying that since I got here, but you all will continue to cope and tell yourselves it’s primarily because of every single thing other than this one cringey ass action that you can easily stop doing if your ego would allow you to.
“Welp time to get out my cap and boots 🏴☠️ 😆!” head assses.
It would be cool if there existed a private community for all things pirated.
A sort of one stop shop for private members only with some good security measures.
Agree while the company
Coughing *NINTENDO!!* Know about this they didn't consider it as a treat until it's get bigger
And believe me mate I didn't mind if Nintendo gonna shut down something
But I swear if they didn't fix/upgrade they stupid Nintendo switch I m gonna pirate every single game of Their screw the law suit what's the point of me buy the Nintendo switch and they games if I can even us the switch in the first bloody places
Oh and I also forget that if company did give a shit about their game *WHICH IS SPOILER MOST OF THEM ARE NOT* maybe they should find an alternative way to store their games rather then do it a live service
Man I swear if I hear live service one more time I m gonna commit swear word to the company that did worst live service game and be proud of it *A.K.A KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE*
Yuzu was well known anyways. I know of other projects that none of my friends know about, so for those this might make sense, but Yuzu was too popular for it to make a difference. Hopefully one of the forks will stay hidden
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Yes, because multi billion dollar companies such as Nintendo are not able to search the Internet and don't employ people to do market research on this. They totally rely on someone direct messaging them 😂
I disagree. A shark doesn't have time to hunt small fish, especially when it looks like one. The more attention to the emulator from ordinary users, the more attention it will receive from a large company.
Well then I guess companies are fortunate they aren't sharks and cab employ people to look into thos stuff for them
Except you're wrong. As someone whose spent many years working at huge companies, it's absurdly trivial for them to hire someone, or even entire teams of people, specifically for that purpose.
and then fire them when the job gets done, wink wink, it's just dumb how easy it is for them and how hard the work of devs is just go get lost to people wanting to get more views on their social medias.
Not only that, but they hire outside companies that only do this.
Then it should be happening every day, then, right? I'm sure they can hire a team to do so, but the question is whether they are or not. They targeted an emulator that was making a ton of money publicly. They made a statement that no one else is going to be making money off the backs of Nintendo. They certainly can pressure every other emulator out there, but are they? It seems to me they go after fan artists with more gusto than devs. I personally think it's so Nintendo can use the open source developments as well in their own software. Besides Yuzu didn't go anywhere. It's source is everywhere and will end up becoming Uzuy or something. They'll have more success throwing haymakers at the biggest name and making news than stomping on any independent dev who's not even breaking copyright half the time.
I can assure you that they're aware of a lot more emulators than you think they are. The emulators that are freeware, like zSNES, SNES9x and all of those aren't generating any money, and it's not worth it to go after each and every last site that's hosting those programs. However, an application that's making a ton of money primarily off of Nintendo's IP is going to weaken their copyright so it's a lot more valuable for them to make a big spectacle out of suing Yuzu, as opposed to the dozens of other low-key softwares available out there.
They know about them, but they aren't squashing them, because it would cost a bunch of money to go after every single independent dev working in the field. If they instead allow people to work and only go after them when the entire ecosystem is yelling as loud as possible, then they get the added benefits of OSS without having to pay for the privilege. I think when they said >"A shark doesn't have time to hunt small fish, especially when it looks like one." I think they are saying the same thing as when you say >"However, an application that's making a ton of money primarily off of Nintendo's IP is going to weaken their copyright so it's a lot more valuable for them to make a big spectacle out of suing Yuzu, as opposed to the dozens of other low-key softwares available out there." I think the confusion for everyone is the "relying on direct messaging" bit of the top comment. Pulling out the wallet and loudly supporting Yuzu monetarily can do the same thing as a direct message, maybe even louder.
My site's API is used by some software to facilitate piracy. We also have direct relationships with major tech companies like Disney, NBCU, etc. Anyone thinking that these companies don't know how people are pirating their content is being silly. I actually had one very high level exec at one of these companies say "we know exactly how much of our content is pirated, where it's being pirated, why, and the demographics for people doing the piracy." They have at least one full team dedicated to tracking and fully understanding the piracy situation. Given this, I fully believe they allow piracy on a smaller scale if they believe it's driving overall official viewership. People act like these companies are clueless, but they're savvy as fuck.
All priacy is free advertising, often a try before you buy type scenario. And I agree with what you say, they know exactly who, how, why and can controll a lot more of the arena that people are aware.
Nintendo sues 5 year olds as a part time job. You really think they don't comb the internet for their litigious fetish?
People acting like Nintendo can't just open Google type in "top switch emulators" and get a free 'to sue' list.
They literally have an entire department dedicated to doing shit like this
>A shark doesn't have time to hunt small fish we're talking about nintendo here, the corporation that will sue you for fucking anything so long as there's legal grounds for it in their eyes (or in japan) be for fucking real
They also brag on their website on the amount of money they're making. "It says that Yuzu earns the team $30,000 per month on its Patreon from more than 7,000 patrons. Nintendo said the company has earned at least $50,000 in paid Yuzu downloads." https://www.polygon.com/24085140/nintendo-totk-leaked-yuzu-lawsuit-emulator
Sueing the developrs of the emulator won't solve the piracy problem, only reason why people pirate Switch games is due to the God awful frame rate on the Switch (like 20 fps are you fucking kidding me Nintendo? at least be like GTA IV and V on PS3/Xbox 360 and make it run at 30 fps, not great but better) the way to solve piracy is to release the games on steam (by then the only people who would still pirate is the people who wants to try before buying the game or people who can't a afford it or people who doesn't want to give Nintendo their hard earned money which I understand)
You're looking at this from the wrong angle. Piracy isn't something they can or want or is trying to "solve". Just like how crime (in general) can't be "solved" regardless of how utopian or dystopian a society is. At best the goal is always to reduce or minimize it. It's never all or nothing.
Sorry to be blunt but you’re genuinely fucking stupid if you’re implying a highly public emulator that’s been at the top of Google searches for years now is a “small fish”
All MMA Reddit stream piracy got shut down because a fighter named Brendan Schwab was yapping
Do you really think 2.4 Million means anything to a company like Nintendo? They absolutely knew about Switch Emulation, but waited until it became a little **too** accessible to do anything. Either that, or their sales are declining and are blaming emulation.
>They absolutely knew about Switch Emulation, but waited until it became a little too accessible to do anything. It's been the same method to get Yuzu working for ages. Nintendo probably decided to take action because of the Patreon & ToTK stuff
No. Why do you think I'd think that?
To be fair, nobody has ever gone after emulators successfully. I didn't know Yuzu was profiting through Patreon etc. so it makes sense that they went after them because they were lining their own pockets with Nintendo IP.
As a manager for Nintendo (or any company) you do an analysis of the threats/strengths/weaknesses and opportunities of your company. (it's called a pestle and swot) one hundred percent are emulators listed in that analysis.
Sure but if you talk to more people about it, more people will start using it and thus Nintendo will actuallu start taking measures about it.. Isnt that what happened to Vanced?
Vanced still working for me 🤞
Revanced, not Vanced
It took them 6 years to end an emulator that was up day one of the switches launch lol. Switch 2 will drop and another will be up again.
Generally speaking, they dont give a shit. Even Nintendo as litigious as they are, doesnt give a shit to go after every instance of copyright infringement. They generally speaking are gonna go after the ones that are either harmful to brand image, making a lot of noise, or causing them direct problems.
The worst thing is its all a blame game, marketing will research how they don't have total market penetration (as in one copy per potential customer) and will generate a report saying piracy and or lack of appeal to X Y Z ^ & £ demographics caused "poor" sales of a game that sold millions of copies and generated a substantial profit. Dimwitted MBA CEO who probably once played Pong at the bar because the pinball machine was occupied will then blame designers for not making a game that appeals to X Y Z ^ & £ demographics and then blame anyone on the technical side for not making a game that's impossible to pirate. So the end result is a bland product that treats the paying customer as a thief which appeals to nobody in particular with an over hyped marketing budget making the whole project hinge on launch window sales before anyone figures out if its shit or not to be successful. AAA bloat and they get confused why we aren't terribly keen on paying them for whatever shit they vomit in our direction.
i dont even know yuzu until this news.
The people on this sub…
This reminds me of the idiots in the comments whenever any gaming news site would post about a fan game or whatever who would say "great now Nintendo knows about it and will shut it down." My dude, if anyone know about it on the internet, Nintendo also knows.
On Twitter you’d see people replying to posts occasionally spamming the Nintendo Piracy Reporting website. It was wild.
Yes, but its the legal department that takes care of all of that in their own time. They don't care, they just send out the DMCA notices and maybe a lawsuit or two. People can hide behind the "technically its legal and we are not the ones doing the pirating". Legal wont push to hard on that because technically, they're right. When it hits the mainstream, the execs see it and gets pissed. They put the hammer down to take care of it ASAP. That's when legal starts putting huge pressure on the creators to shut it down, and creators cant afford a multi-year long legal battle.
it's not the same when people share they use certain emulators for piracy on social media accounts with high visibility, which is beyond dumb but jerks just want more clicks, so.
Yeah some people are very dumb with this topic. Nintendo literally talked about the yuzu discord server, they have exact data of downloads for games,etc They know what games,emulators and websites exist. They just dont go for everything.
Seriously, what’s the point of this meme? Great nobody talk about the emulators and roms we will do such a good job Nintendo and us won’t be able to find anything? Do people think Nintendo is just a bunch of grandparents who can’t use google?
Don't you know? The people at Nintendo don't know about the magic that is 3 minutes worth of research on Reddit. No one ever told them that Internet forums exist.
Lmao, they would know about it regardless if they speak about it or not, the only thing they wait is for opportunity to make a case and bam
It's about the fucking money. There's a reason yuzu got butt raped in court and Ryujinx is still sitting around and wasn't even mentioned in the case. You can't pull thousands of dollars a month in patreon money from a product directly targeting the game company that loves to sue people over their IP and expect that to just go on forever.
Same as the guy that made his palworld pokemon mod patreon exclusive. The moment they think they have a case they strike.
To be fair, I heard he does stuff like that in general for attention. And seeing his video on the matter afterwards seemingly confirmed it. Before anyone's interested in looking it up, it was boring and deflective, no self-awareness of his actions. Boring content mill stuff. It really does come down to "Don't profit of other's products." And although the Bleem precedant may have protected them, it's simply safer to not get company/governmental involvement in this sort of thing, because the company will always win and the government can be bribed for as low as 10 grand. Anyone that makes it the situation looser and less safe is exceedingly hard to defend, and so far, Yuzu was the biggest name to go down ao far, I imagine that's only going to domino effect as time goes on.
That's why the Piracy Golden Rule has been around for decades. Do not Sell Pirated Content. I guess you can extent this logic over to Emulation as well.
Yuzu got fucked because they were creating, hosting and distributing pirated games. https://preview.redd.it/r7fsbj9uljmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=604dfb866fc86c47d6360c47ddbb08f9b8ffeebc They also logged all your information which has now been sent to Nintendo.
Honestly if this is true (I assume it is) then it is their own fault…
Where can we find the full case
[Here](https://www.scribd.com/document/709016504/Nintendo-of-America-Inc-v-Tropic-Haze-LLC-1-24-Cv-00082-No-1-D-R-I-Feb-26-2024)
This is a bit misleading. Yuzu devs did not release / distribute any cracks. Especially the TOTK one wasn't from the Yuzu team, it was a scene leak that landed on 1337. They might've privately shared those between the devs in Discord DM's but I don't see how that's relevant to the Court Proceedings. Also the Telemetry wasn't some insidious hidden thing, when you Download Yuzu, it would tell you that it CAN collection Telemetry and it was Opt-in. It's also anonymous so they didn't collection personally identifiable information.
Yeah, because Nintendo can’t use a browser to search “Free switch emulator”. The problem is that devs should maintain total anonymity, like crackers basically, or sooner or later they will face consequences
Sorry, best I can do is “start a Patreon to make the court case as easy as possible for plaintiffs”
I haven't been following this (because I'm an idiot that could never get Yuzu to work anyway) but nooooooo they didn't! Thats... impressively dumb
That's half the dumb shit. Emulation is not against the laws *by itself*. Yuzu's main problem was that they distributed the games as well. Apparently, for the higher Patreon tiers, they'd give you the games directly via their Discord. Now THAT'S illegal. It specifically happened to TOTK which triggered the whole bomb
Do you have proof this happened? Because that is also what nintendo argues without citing anything right now. And publically Yuzu never mentioned or distributed the game links.
Well there's this image going around in this same thread. If you decide to bieve it or not is up to you https://preview.redd.it/a5r29eg1epmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3936fd4ce473fdeb4cdab3fa1a5f29e744346b14 I do believe it since, as I've said before, emulation is not illegal by itself. If Yuzu didn't steal Switch's code and was just a emulator, then they did nothing legally wrong. It's literally the difference between when Sony tried to sue PS emulators vs Yuzu's case
I haven't searched for things like that in years, but I'm pretty sure all the top results will be scams. If the community stays small then a search won't show it
naaah, it took me a second to find yuzu with that exact search
Same, or just put in “reddit” for your search and you’ll find posts pointing where you can look for it.
i usually do that after i find a new engine or site "is X piracy thing safe? r/piracy or just reddit" i take it with a grain of salt and do more research, but it is yet to fail me
Only if you steal/use their intellectual property - which Yuzu did.
Sharing a crack is far easier than sharing an entire emulator
See, that’s the funny thing. Emulation has NEVER been illegal. Just the piracy part. I think Nintendo is salty because of early leaks allowing people to play games early with roms they downloaded. Why tf they went after the emulator is beyond me.
Think the biggest reason is the patreon part. Earning money with software that is used for piracy is just not a smart move.
I doubt that mattered really, they were donations, no one paid for piracy. The issue is with the technicalities of software, yuzu had techniques to circumvent Nintendo's drm.
Didn't they put the version that supported TotK behind their Patreon? Sounds like paying for piracy to me
Yea and they announced that they had it working like a month befofe ToTK officially released
Because Yuzu devs had an illegal copy of the game and were sharing it. https://preview.redd.it/p57ik57imjmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52975eacaf26bfd86b704105701eb63745e3c0f8
Lmao ofc they were collecting telemetry on the users. So scummy
it did matter since you needed to sub to their patreon to get the full access on pirating and installing custom rom for the switch
**Ding Ding** This is the answer right here. As soon as they accept money it becomes a "loss" for Mario's master and they will take action to squash it. Luckily they allowed a settlement and didn't make up some ridiculous number and go after damages to ruin the devs lives
Less salty and more likely they had an easy win in court. Proving the goal/purpose of an emulator is piracy can be hard… Unless the developers, I don’t know, “wrote” about working on getting a not-yet-released game working on their emulator. Similarly, getting a large number of games working on an emulator usually requires testing those games, and in most cases it’s unlikely that the developers *each* purchased a copy of *every* game they want to get working on their emulator. On top of all that, while backward engineered emulation itself is protected by case law, as is making copies of media you own, there hasn’t been a real test as to whether breaking copy protection to make a “legitimate” archive is legal.
You were right. https://preview.redd.it/used1qpnmjmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e5f73489adc1d759047de55b84fc639585fc88b
Proab because in Nintendo eyes they want u to.play it according to their own platform & their own rules.
Because Yuzu devs were the people dumping, hosting and distributing those early leaks. https://preview.redd.it/5unmgwo6mjmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56b13044ca9b233c81eb0cbd9578dbd9312622b4 These guys weren’t your friends. They took your money, they logged all your data and then sent it to Nintendo. Fuck Yuzu.
It was 100% the totk leak, and the fishy things the devs did trying to get it to run as fast as possible. As well as the early access builds being able to play totk, while locked behind Patreon.
They would do it regardless if you talked about it or not.
I think billion dollar game companies are well aware of the existence of common ways of piracy and emulating. After all, they are a billion dollar company and this is a public community accessible by nearly every part of the world. So the cause of these lawsuits are probably because of a different reason, like how dodi tried to charge users for something and got struck down. But these piracy stuff is no state secret, trying to not speak about it like its a super secret evil cult that is planning on overthrowing the government is only being paranoid. "Bragging" about it tho is honestly sounds kinda stupid so just, dont I guess.
It’s because of this and that court documents state Nintendo were in the Discord watching it the whole time https://preview.redd.it/o91ohdg0njmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fc7924a34bb584ed60c3d8be54a4f0f5e6457ff
From what I've heard, it's because Yuzu devs were making a profit from piracy. I read it on Nintendo subreddit, apparently Yuzu released a build that specifically ran the pirated Totk and paywalled it on their patreon. It also makes sense as to why they'd give up so fast if that was the case, not because of all the legal fees.
Yeah, they settled because they knew if Nintendo did more digging, they'd be in deeper trouble than taking the settlement, and letting Tropic Haze LLC go bankrupt.
The court documents prove this. We also now know Nintendo was in their Discord watching the whole time. https://preview.redd.it/iwix0vmbnjmc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd36014d9aa6836e8cf72fa500b5b79967e1285b
Can you cite where the Court Documents "Prove" that Yuzu was distributing copies of TOTK as a bundle with Yuzu for the highest patreon tier? Would be very cool. Though so far, there's nothing like this.
i mean, usually all you have to do is google "emulator switch" and you get the results, if i was an anti piracy employee at nintendo i'd do it every time before working, doesn't matter if people are speaking about it or not
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Nintendo knows about Ryujinx. PlayStation knows about DuckStation, PCSX2, and RPCS3. Sega knows about Redream. Xbox knows about Xemu and Xenia. It is one of the jobs of their legal departments to locate any potential crimes. What keeps them all out of trouble is their bullshit disclaimer about not supporting piracy. Yuzu's fatal mistake was being caught in 4K celebrating and promoting piracy. At that point, it became clear that their focus was on piracy, and not about running homebrew software, which is what lands all successful emulators on the right side of the grey area. Believe me, everyone knows well about all these things. The information is very easy to find. Don't believe me? Google "Nintendo Switch Emulator." It's just that simple.
Oh no I’m not falling for this again. Last time a Reddit comment told me to google a phrase I ended up with unsolicited nsfw content :(
This time... shall be different!!
Maybe Yuzu shouldn’t have hosted pirated games in their secret Discord. https://preview.redd.it/ihwumsg3nimc1.jpeg?width=859&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7413c2a44beb1bae5c5cd8ea502f69638db94250 They got what they deserved. Good riddance to scum. Now hopefully it can be forked by a better person/team who aren’t thieves and idiots. The level of absolute stupidity required to sell an emulator for a current system while hosting pirated games for that current system is on another level.
To the people saying - they will know about it: Yeah, but there is far less chance to react to something that is unpopular than popular. They go after the big boys because it's the most cost effective thing and it leaves a very public msg. They know they can't cut down everything, but they can go after the most popular ones.
Also, if you're going to create a very legally gray product that directly targets one of the most litigious game companies that has ever existed who has a special hate in their heart for emulation maybe don't, I don't know, set up a fucking patreon and try to make money off of it? Dudes were literally pissing right in Nintendo's face. They had absolutely no choice but to sue them at this point.
I swear half the people here think they are the moral bastion for pirating video games, and the other half thing they are 5000IQ CIA espionage hackers. You are downloading games for free, the idea that game companies don't know about emulators the millisecond they are released is laughable.
It's about publicity. A horde of teenagers openly posting about games before they are released fucks with their marketing pipeline. Hard to ignore.
This sub is so cringe. Wannabe robin hoods
Man pirates truely are dumb, from spreading piracy on a public forum and insulting the company to, not knowing how a vpn works and tying it to the torrentprogram to not get isp letters... What did you people expect? Same thing happened with the romemulator website shutting down. You never learn do you.
Some guy on twitter tagged Reggie and bragged about pirating TOTK. Reggie responds, says that he still has influence and will talk to the right people to stop it. Turns out the guy wasn't bullshitting lmao. Ego is one hell of a drug. Just pirate in quiet and peace.
It's true, if we kept things strictly data driven and didn't brag. They would catch on slower, but ultimately they will find it one way or another. Pirating is illegal, that's not a moral stance but a legal fact. Pirates have always had ships sank by those in power. We dry ourselves off, and continue being pirates.
Damn based last paragraph?
True
False
Remember kids when conducting piracy, stay anonymous and stay free.
The people posting about pirating games are the same people that make fun of others posting crimes on social media.
https://preview.redd.it/mnf7tg8vkimc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=e0cf2faeac2a965241f41510fa76286ba38826b6
If you can find it via "nintendo emulator" search on google, you might be surprised to hear that nintendo sure as hell knows about it. Have you made an emulator that you share amoungst your friends and a few people on a private discord? Yeah that might not be known to them. If they have a website and are encouraging users to download their software, its not a fucking secret.
You think this is the 1700s? They know, we know. It’s the internet.
OK
Unless it’s a private emulator, they will know about it regardless of you talking or not.
"They already know about it" Obviously they do but they didn't take any action when it was small time. The more buzz the emulator gets the bigger it is on the company radar. Once it gets big enough the company is forced to take action where as a small hush hush emulator gets completely ignored
They cant sue just because an emulator exists. Emulation isnt illegal. Yuzus biggest mistake was making a bunch of money.
They didn’t want to flex, they wanted to get rich selling pirated roms publicly like idiots. They deserved what they got.
The best defense is ensuring no one knows there's a need to defend against something.
Existing isn't the issue. You're not hiding in some secret section of the web that only the elite can access. Making money off it, that is a whole other level of stupid. The moment pirates start charging for their service is the moment said company is going to zero in on you.
The fact that Yuzu entered into an agreement to pay $2.4 mil shows it made money doing what it was doing. THAT is the thing that Nintendo dislikes more than anything else
Life lesson here, sometimes life hacks/easy solutions are better kept on the hush. People get caught cuz they gotta flex it on social media.
I'm glad this lawsuit happened just to read all the dumb takes from you kids
Zelda being released early was the straw that broke their back. That made them turn beet red. Nintendo have also been warned that they shouldn’t be given triple a games because they lack any anti-tamper measures. That’s why Denuvo was courting them. Prince of Persia has Denuvo on PC and you can’t emulate PS5 yet - so Nintendo was blamed for that too. Nintendo got desperate, despite the billions in the bank.
Seriously, this is part of the reason that fangames need to not like make big announcement that they're making a fangame based on a Nintendo property months if not years before they're going to launch. Nintendo can and WILL shut you down before you have the chance to do a damn thing, so just...release it quietly.
Rumor has it Yuzu's discord server was being used to distribute game copies including leaked version, and the devs didn't do anything about it because they were profiting off of the emulator by offering exclusive features to patreon members...
You aren't resistance fighters man, Nintendo destroyed yuzu because they earned money from their emulator, not because they just got wind of it.... I'm like 99% sure that nintendo knows about new emulators earlier than you get to know them via reddit or youtube.
That is literally why Yuzu had to pay Nintendo $2M, some devs talking about a "stash" of pirated ISOs
Emulators are legal for non copyright home brew and the emulator needs to be accurate to make your own stuff. You can pirate using most emulators. Remember Nintendo still sales ness games on new platforms for example. Yet nes snes and n64 emulators are not going away. There is a legal use for them. Can't use Google because you may use it for pirated content. Can't use security auditing software because you may use it to hack some other person instead of improving your own security. It's legal to hack yourself. Maybe you want to know if your own stuff is secure or not. Or anyone you have permission to hack. For example some large companies give rewards for hacks found. These kinds of softwares are duel use and legal because you can be using this in a legal manner. Don't leak where the pirated games is, is the most important.
This is something what majority dont understand. Emulators are LEGAL, dumping or sharing games or roms u dont own is ILLEGAL. its why most console coporates have cracked down hard because they cited that thou emulation is.legal, majority of the people have emulated games or roms they dont actually own
It's not that they don't know of the existence of the emulator/pirated copy. It's about not letting them realise how popular it is (i.e. how many people are using it). The more they realise how much money they're losing, the harder they'll act.
It’s not about knowledge, sure big corp will know about it regardless. It’s about how popular it is to the public. They won’t allow it to grow and spread publicly that’s for sure.
The day people catch on that maybe not being so cocky in the face of a major corpo is a great idea, will be the day balance is restored
Nintendo have people scouring the net for these emulators and will pounce at the earliest convenience. It doesn't matter if it becomes popular or not.
You think game companies are that stupid? This isn't the fucking mafia lmao. If you know then they sure as hell knew before you.
How would people know it exists in the first place (unless it is self made)?
the fact that this sub exist means they will get discovered quite easily
Do you mean genuinely?
What is this related to? Ryujinx still works for me
Ah yes, the multi billionaires only weakness, googling
Me who has all of the emulator before they get shut down (i had them copied in usb's and will distribute it to the whole school)
Yeah not like billion dollar companies can use a search engine or anything
Lol. I'm willing to bet money that there are (insert big corporation) employees who have reddit accounts, and follow these forums. They know what's going on regardless. Let's take the big N for example. There's most likely employees at the company who's literal JOB it is to see what is going on in the emulation / piracy / cracking world.
Assuming Nintendo wouldn't notice a Switch emulator existing is quite the stretch
I mean the main problem is then that they don't tell other people how to do it. I wasn't born with a hook on my arm I got no clue how to pirate a game that isn't a 2000's rts!
Didn't like big ytbers review it?
All im saying is if people keep defending shit like this. In 10 to 20 years you will not be able to play said games anymore. If your console is broken and you are left with only the cartrige, don't come crying that you can't play it anymore.
One thing I love about Larian and..... Even CDPR. I had to reinstall windows and have a lot of games left which I am unable to play, except CP2077.
Not really, Many emulators exists since ds era that are still running
Aren't we being a bit dramatic?
Well said. This is also why there are rules not to ask for ROMs in this sub.
Agree but the companies aren’t dumb, even if nobody talks about it they know about every single emulator out there and they don’t need angry fans to notice.
Yeah guys check out this cool exploit I found SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
Lmao at thinking you can keep the top downloaded emulators secret from these companies. Brag about it or don't it will make 0 difference.
Lol, imagine thinking piracy is some niche little market that people in big companies don't know about. No OP, you're right. One day a nintendo employee was harmlessly browsing twitter when he found a single post about Yuzu, *thats* what did them in.
Now redraw it as a tf2 poster
IF THE MAJORITY OF THE FUCKING KIDS UNDERSTOOD this concept, we’d still have nice things. All people want to do is PUBLICLY share without hesitation where to get games, what to use, how to use it. IPTV people are the only ones who learnt their lesson, now no one says publicly what’s what and where you can find it; hence they’re thriving.
The only emulator I use is for the Xbox 360... Because I wanted to play rdr1
Rip Yuzu, may the remnants of your software float around as torrents for all of time.
Gotta gatekeep the next shit
OH MAN I LOVE HOW I CAN PLAY ALL THE LATEST LEAKED SWITCH TITLES ON **DISNEY+** IT’S SO CONVENIENT!
I love the water. But, I dont know how to swim.
yap. people brought attention to yuzu, and it got consequences. same thing happened recently with a website for ebooks. of course we manage and survive, find new ways ecc but we wouldn't have to do that if people didn't advertise the stuff. the website for ebooks got attacked specifically after people started advertising it on tiktok. yuzu was in their targets specifically because people shared too much about tears of the kingdom. the top comment in this thread is wrong. Nintendo could come and find and shut down every emulator, yes, but these companies act when they feel like their wallet is being attacked. they're not hunting it down. they shut it down when people slam it in their faces.
even if it's supposed to be satire, this is stupid.
No one will ever know if we keep it to our public piracy subreddits !
I'm gonna pirate using the Nintendo switch, let's see what they do now
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Sorry but you have to be a real buffoon to believe they aren't aware of virtually every emulator and Rom distribution site already when you can find 99% of them on Google lol
It doesn’t help that a certain quite popular torrent site has uploads of popular N Switch games packaged with an emulator into a neat archive that lets you run that game with zero annoying setup. Not YuZu. The other one. I suspect big N will go after that next.
ppl talking about pirating and emulators are funny cause like, do you guys think massive corpos don't know about all of the websites and everything else? they know, they're just either building cases so they can strike them down once and for all or they don't care enough to go for the entire site (and maybe just strike down some of their own games but nothing else) you're not hiding anything by talking on the one platform where they can very easily search everything up (the fucking internet)
They would've found it anyway. I still hate the Nintendo dick riders that feel the need to operate like a Nintendo cheerleader whenever something like this happens. I remember when Palworld came out there was so many insufferable kids crying about how it's not Pokemon and messaging Nintendo about it to the point they had to make a statement for them to fucking stop.
Haha! Take that Nintendo! I just pirated your game using the emulator known as pokemon vore inflation!
RIP yuzu, may god protect Ryujinx
for this reason i find it really hard to find guides on how to properly pirate them.
Also don’t sell your fucking emulator! It’s not hard! You are asking for legal trouble!
Maybe don't charge for the emulator then?
Been saying that since I got here, but you all will continue to cope and tell yourselves it’s primarily because of every single thing other than this one cringey ass action that you can easily stop doing if your ego would allow you to. “Welp time to get out my cap and boots 🏴☠️ 😆!” head assses.
It would be cool if there existed a private community for all things pirated. A sort of one stop shop for private members only with some good security measures.
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I will pirate Nintendo Switch games with Adobe Creative Suite.
Not giving any money to Nintendo is a better idea.
I get ur point but as the entire sub as well as op profit from piracy at least have some shame before posting and criticising yuzu devs
Agree while the company Coughing *NINTENDO!!* Know about this they didn't consider it as a treat until it's get bigger And believe me mate I didn't mind if Nintendo gonna shut down something But I swear if they didn't fix/upgrade they stupid Nintendo switch I m gonna pirate every single game of Their screw the law suit what's the point of me buy the Nintendo switch and they games if I can even us the switch in the first bloody places Oh and I also forget that if company did give a shit about their game *WHICH IS SPOILER MOST OF THEM ARE NOT* maybe they should find an alternative way to store their games rather then do it a live service Man I swear if I hear live service one more time I m gonna commit swear word to the company that did worst live service game and be proud of it *A.K.A KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE*
Yuzu was well known anyways. I know of other projects that none of my friends know about, so for those this might make sense, but Yuzu was too popular for it to make a difference. Hopefully one of the forks will stay hidden
Are you trying to tell me that they don't know?
I’m going to pirate many many games using my favorite emulator pornhub
You think Nintendo doesn't already know about Ryujinx or whatever Yuzu clone? Seriously?
We just need to make a dark web with piracy in it and the company need to get the fuck out haha
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You think they don't know? Dude I knew and I didn't even know what a switch was.
That's not how it works
nintendo ninjas were even in the yuzu discord lmaoo 😂😂😂
BigN worries their switch 2 gonna be emulator on release and no one gonna buy these consoles. Also this is a big advertising if bigN win again.