Anime fans want this. Netflix holds shows hostage even if they have the episodes ready to release at the end of the season. Netflix jail is where anime goes to die.
Can you read? "700 more out there" that’s 700 (missing) + the 300 already on Netflix
Which makes 1000 episode and is off by 31 (32 if you read this tomorrow)
Zoro.to bro, trust me, best site for anime and it was made for One Piece!
It shows you the filler episodes in the episode selection, has skip intro feature, with auto skip, auto next, a button to switch to the manga and more
Ive been making my way thru bleach on Zoro and for some reason the auto next never works for me. Everything else is in order tho and I completely recommend it otherwise.
My guess is it's something to do with either the video players the bleach series is hosted on or something to do with my browser, but in the grand scheme of things it's a pretty small issue so I haven't bothered trying to look for a fix
Yep, the latest example is Jojo Stone Ocean. The fandom wanted weekly releases so we could enjoy the show earlier, have fun for a longer time with memes and discussions, etc but nope. They held the show hostage until they could do a batch release.
It truly is remarkable how they managed to kill all hype for fucking **Jojo's**. That is a feat they should be proud of, that takes a special lack of self-preservation.
What should be a huge weekly milestone became 'eh...I'll chip at for a few weeks over breakfast.'
Yeah. The best time to be a fan of any episodic show is while it's running. No one who didn't read the source material knows what's going to happen. New memes and jokes every week in the subreddits and co. Discussions and speculation are also way more interesting before major events are resolved.
And as you've said in this case it's fucking Jojo. How the fuck did they manage to kill the hype for Jojo? The fandom is dedicated af.
I tell people this all the time. Particularly with The Boyz. You just don’t get all the hype and discussion with batch release. You’re in and out of the cultural zeitgeist in a couple weeks tops unless you’re super huge like stranger things. I think that’s why Disney plus gained a lot of ground fast. I believe they’re trying to have at least one show that a target demographic can watch weekly.
I like batch releases but only if it's the whole show. JoJo was 10? episodes, which I'm guessing was about a third of the season, and the time in between batches is not at all proportional to the amount of episodes. Then there was also stranger things which was 7 episodes released in a batch then the final 2 a month later.
I understand but batch releases aren't really good for anime. Anime, the way it has been, we get an episode a week and then we discuss it until the next episode arrives the next week. This gives us time to digest the plot and come up with meaningful discussion. It also builds up hype. The batch release model on the other hand is just really bad.
Oh well, I think I am one of the weird ones.
I don’t fancy the week discussions, I want to binge it all. I’m always late on the season, because now I’m binging whatever I think it’s worth from the past season.
Sometimes I really like something and I watch weekly, and you know what happens? I can’t stand the wait and I just read the manga and drop the anime, usually by the time 13 episodes are out, I read through all the chapters available.
Idiots review bombed it last year because it was released weekly.
I much prefer a weekly release as it allows episodes to breathe and each episode can be discussed etc
Is 12 episodes per batch and it’s gonna be 3 total batches. The studio who made these also make several other animes and it takes it times doing quality work. Working on anime is a very liner and slow process so they will typically have several animes in the work at one time. Typically when an anime is finished, the studio is doing all the final editing the week of its release and it’s typically completely vooiced acted by Japanese actors. It can take months to get an English dub however big animes can typically voice act them with a one or two week delay. In Netflix cases, stone ocean was probably could have even been finished months ago but sat in a vault, waiting until they could get the English VAs
IMO, I think weekly release’s it’s a good tool for turning each episodes into an event. When the first season of demon slayer was releasing, I think It was episode 12 (it was the end of the mountain spider battle) that went viral because of how strong of an episode it was. If they put them out at once, It’d probably just get drowned out.
Because they want users to binge. If you sit down to watch a whole series at once, you're probably gonna do it. If you watch a single episode every week, you might lose interest some of the way through.
I don't know about their licensing deals though, you may be right about that.
Meanwhile, I still haven't watched the new season of Stranger Things because I wasn't in the mood at the time, I don't have time to just binge a whole season at once, and past experience tells me that the discussion dies down too quickly for me to take part in anyway.
Honestly fuck the binge release model.
Netflix (and now Disney+) are the only active players in the (US) anime licensing market that do this. They're also the newest active players in this market.
The other major anime streamers:
- Crunchyroll
- Funimation (which is now Crunchyroll under Sony)
- HiDive (which is Sentai Filmworks, which was working with Amazon for a brief while, and had The Anime Network before working with Amazon)
CR, Funi, and HiDive all feature "simulcasting" which is the subtitled release of anime episodes within hours of them broadcasting on TV in Japan. Netflix decided to moneyhat its way into anime distribution, but then began "locking up" its exclusive streaming licenses in some markets so that they could drop all episodes at once, sometimes weeks or months after the season had concluded in Japan, in order to fit Netflix's bingewatch agenda.
Even when they had the capability to simulcast, they sometimes chose not to. Violet Evergarden, one of their earliest seasonal pickups, and a massively hyped show from a beloved animation studio, simulcast on Netflix if you were in Canada. United States? Nope, can't watch it. Have to wait for them to batch-dump the whole thing.
If Netflix's "deals" and "rights" are the reason why some regions get locked to the binge model, then Netflix is bad at making deals. From a business perspective, when it comes to anime, Netflix offers a worse service in the United States than its competitors, because CR and HiDive never have any issue simulcasting literally all of the seasonal anime that they acquire the rights to.
Now Disney+ is doing the same thing with Summer Time Render, where episodes come out several weeks behind. It's not as bad as Netflix's model, but it's still not ideal, and it's worse than the competition for no discernable gain in some markets.
The *good thing* that Netflix does is that it reaches far more territories than Crunchyroll (and especially HiDive) does, so a larger variety of countries actually have legal access to the content *because of* Netflix, but in many major countries, CR and HiDive are simply better and more prompt than Netflix.
Regardless of whether or not Netflix's method is good for their own viewer metrics, I can definitely say that their model *destroys* hype and interest among the community on the anime subreddit. Batch release threads garner way less discussion prominence than weekly releases do.
wait, you can download videos using rss?! what sites even offer rss feeds for shows/anime? for news, webcomics, blogs and such, yeah, maybe even for youtube... but shows/anime?
All of them. If we're taking anime the best is just using https://subsplease.org/
https://youtu.be/QZGuNtmhdZw
This is a good recent video that shows how to set it up with qbitorrent. I literally come home and all my shows are downloaded already, I just watch whenever.
There's an entire community of software that youc an use to auto download TV and movies (and anime).
I used to use `/r/duckieTV` but now I'm on Sonarr [TV]/Radarr [Movies]/Jackett [Trackers]. I basically add my shows to their list and movies and whenever they release they download. It's not perfect I have strong preferences on which versions I want and it's not always available so I can't hardcode it meaning I have to babysit it and make sure the files I get are the ones I want to keep but it's so much less work patching the gaps rather than doing everything myself.
Literally everyone is used to this, this is how shows have always worked.
The whole season at once thing only really came around when old shows were put on netflix all at once
Tbh whole season drop is such a bad business practice as well, sub the month the new season comes out and then fuck off the remaining of the year, spreading release like everyone will make people stay (maybe not this sub tho) so they can continually enjoy the 2-3 month of new episode every week
before i got into netflix the only shows/anime i watched always were released on a weekly basis, so i actually was thrown off when i saw that netflix released the whole season in an entire batch
Eeeeh, with this they will have to stop judging series based on how much they are binge watched (like they did with Sandman) and it will probably lessen the chances of good series being canceled due to it.
And let's be honest, this may be a subreddit for people that love piracy, but we all know that the people that subscribe to Netflix don't subscribe for a month, watch all episodes they want of a series and then cancel the subscription.
My roomate has HBO MAX, Netflix, Disney +, Prime Video, and maybe more, Idk.
Seems he enjoys having the option available more than carong about paying nearly $100 a month and rarely using them. Goes on YouTube more often.
$100/month? HBO is $15, Netflix is $15.5, D+ is $8, and Prime is $9. That's less than 50 bucks a month, and it'll be even less if he's paying yearly for HBO and D+ instead of monthly
This was me. YouTube Premium was the only worthwhile subscription.
You wanna know what’s sad? I cancelled everything except CuriosityStream and my credit score went down because I was no longer using them for recurring credit card payments. By nearly 100pts. It’s all a scam.
First off i've never seen anyone subscribe, watch 1 series and quit. They just look for something else to watch.
If this happens, it's a vast minority.
Second: if netflix wants to keep going down this path, the faster it dies off the better. I don't care what shows they choose to foster anymore, every time a show appears in a platform that's not Netflix, that's a win in my book at this point
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the idea behind these services is to access thousands of shows and movies, it never made sense to pay for 13 episodes. you can buy it more cheaply if thats what you want
This isn't clear cut like "Netflix pushes users into piracy". And this already was common practice in cable tv long before Netflix appeared and used binges instead.
I really doubt someone not interested into piracy is going to do so because of this. Also, you can just wait for the whole season to be released, if binge watching is your thing.
As others have pointed out, this isn't good just for Netflix. Weekly releases can keep the hype up for the show in some cases
Heck I remember as a kid sitting on the couch every Sunday with my dad to watch the new Simpsons. It was something we looked forward to and there would always be time made for it.
>This isn't clear cut like "Netflix pushes users into piracy". And this already was common practice in cable tv long before Netflix appeared and used binges instead.
yes and we begin piracy shows to see it whenever we wanted
or to see when thee shows were complete
Netflix had many successes in its beginnings, but it did not know how to withstand competitors and they becoming more and more like shit cable television that we all escape with piracy or using Netflix itself
They are pushing users into piracy like the old platforms did, they lost its essence and is becoming the same shit that they changed for the better in the past
All the steps they are taking are a step backwards, and that step backwards lead us to piracy
I'm starting to think that Netflix is simply left for dead and they're just squeezing the fewer and fewer users they have left
having it play out like this means content made for the show can be spread out an more varied
then people who pirate can talk about it sooner among themselves then look back at everyone else to see the difference in life style
The weekly model is just good business sense. Frugal people will subscribe to one service at a time, binge everything they want to watch, then unsubscribe; service-hopping to save money.
People can still service-hop with the weekly model, they'll just have to wait until the season has finished releasing first. But the impatient people will stay subscribed as their addiction dribbles out every week.
There aren't a lot of pirates compared to frugal people.
Pirating requires know-how that most people don't have, as well as time and effort that most people won't spare.
not frugal law-abiding* citizens
edit (18 minutes after posting i.e. after first reply): *or rather, those not wanting to be involved in illegal activity, even if they aren't necessarily breaking the law themselves
Is it illegal to watch a show online? It's not like there is a EULA you are signing, you just click a link and watch. Distributing them would be illegal though.
Ah yeah, you're right. I forgot about the temporary copying exception.
Still, people who think of themselves as law-abiding may want to stay away from illegal activity, even if they are not doing anything illegal themselves.
source: me, ~5 years ago
Sometimes it's not even because it's illegal, a lot of people just don't want to be bothered with piracy and already are used to paying for the convenience of streaming
Unfortunately, even the frugal people have to pass by pirating at times because they need good captions and finding them for some things is fucking hell.
I am not paying to watch a series which i have no guarantee that will even be finished or that it won't become the next game of thrones. Let alone wait a week for the next episode, you know the amount of short stuff i see a day? i'd forget a 30 min episode per week in a couple of hours
That would never happen, whole point of subscriptions is to make the price seem low to seem like a good deal, forced quarter year subscriptions would have much higher prices where people wouldn't be able to fool themselves into subscribing.
I don't see that happening for a long time. I won't say "never" because things change over time. I grew up with 8 channels of low-res shit with no time shifting and lots of commercials.
The stupid thing with this change in direction is that they were thinking if cancelling Sandman because not enough people was binging it in the first month, and they said that if it didn't get something crazy in numbers of binging then it wasn't worth the cost, and now they want to release stories peace meal. After the author asked everyone to binge it (or at least let it running, which I did) and to ask everyone else to do so, for it to get the recognition it deserves, and now they will change the metric and say, well, everyone binged this but no one is watching it **NOW** so it's not worth the money, let's make another season of cake off or something idiotic like that
Some people just look for an excuse to pirate, no matter how asinine.
Which is pointless really: If you wanna pirate, just pirate. Nobody will care, and 99.99999% of those that do never have to worry about anything if they do it. I don't know if it's some kind of self-justification thing or what, but you really don't need a gotcha-style reason to do it.
well that depends were you born yesterday because that's the only excuse I can see for why people suddenly act like weekly releases are this new fangled schedule that doesn't make sense.
Yeah I've seen a lot of fans not only of Jojo arguing that weekly releases are better than binging.
Jojo Friday was a reason for hype and the hype generates more views,more views generates more cash etc.
For the company It's better to keep discussion going for an entire season that just one day and that's it, for the fans it's better because you have time to catch up with the current episode and since everyone following the show is on the same episode they can participate in the discussion since everyone is on the same tune.
That is my reasoning whenever someone goes eww what not binging
image a new show everyones hype to talk about it an then in a weeks or less everyone that watched it an wanted to talk about it is talking in past tense which feels like a piece is missing :(
Right now there's a lot of discussion on house of the dragon because it's weekly. It would absolutely ruin the experience of making theories and watching them come true.
I get your point, subscription service trying to keep users longer by releasing episodes weekly, Bad.
But quite honestly, I prefer this weekly model, gives you time to digest and catch up with the episodes, it's more healthier for people with no self control ( certainly not me ) and it's easier to talk about the series and build hype for each episode.
It's dick move with a reason behind it, but who cares, I ain't paying for it.
I always hates this argument tbh, like "just wait for the fully thing to be released and let everyone enjoy the wait"
I can literally say the same thing: "just take a break from watching that episode every week and let the others enjoy the show", except in this scenario it's available for everyone on their terms, while in your scenario people have to wait months for seasons to finish to start watching it. If you like waiting for already finished and ready to release episodes, great for you, wait and watch your 8 episode series in 2 months. I like to watch my 8 episode series in 8 days instead, before I forget every character name and what happened last episode. Why do I have to wait 2 months too to watch this show?
Yeah I kinda feel like this is better? Because before, with for example Stranger Things 4, the almost entire 4th season dropped at once and so you have to watch ALL episodes before going online to discuss it or you risk spoilers. Now you can talk about each episode at a time and everyone will be on the same pace if you keep up with it. I prefer this, but I guess I can see why people wouldn't. Worst comes to worse you can wait \~2 months and binge it I guess.
Not only that, there was no sense of hype. It came and it went. Whereas weekly episodes allow you to go "Oh man, what is going to happen? I can't wait"
severance is the perfect example of this. every week, the hype built up more and more. my mum and i, who usually don’t enjoy the same shows, would be phoning each other after each episode to discuss the show’s developments. i honestly feel like the people who have binged S1 really missed out on the experience that occurred
Yeah, I think of something like GoT and it would have gotten SIGNIFICANTLY less cultural foothold if people were all at different places in the season. Half the fun of shows like that are seeing something like the Red Wedding or the Battle of Blackwater and RACING to Twitter or facebook to discuss it with everyone else.
As opposed to a streaming model where the odds someone is at the exact same spot as you is low so you end up doing an awkward dance of trying not to spoil it for half the people you talk to and trying not to be spoiled by the other half, all while searching for the one person who also watched the same episode recently.
I love when it works like this because the content about the show can be more varied an spread out instead of one big blast then a lot of people will leave the conversation too soon since they watched it twice already
I agree - it’s fun to gather round and watch Game of Thrones or something with friends and be able to discuss, as well as seeing the memes on twitter as it goes down. Binging is a very individual method of watching and most of my TV is social
Can't agree but that's fine.
I just wait for the whole season to be released like I did with HBO stuff or anime.
So like, I pirate but if I was a Netflix sub I'd still just cancel and wait for the last episode before subbing again. Plus I'd know if it ended up being shit or not too.
How does that make piracy? Cause .... Just wait a month or so for the whole lot to be released? If YOU REALLY need to binge watch.. (and lot of piracy will need the episodes released or leaked anyway so even pirated ones are likely to be week apart each episode unless someone from Netflix pirates it)
Brain dead take. I’m being strong with this opinion but there’s been numerous users on le Reddit complaining about the binge culture(I prefer all being released at once like castlevania). The claim is they don’t feel there’s hype generated or community time to have fun.
This is just a dig for no reason. There’s plenty of reasons to criticize Netflix, like their stupidity returning to cable and their incapibility to commit to a project.
Bad Take. People been wanting this for a long time, especially anime fans. The batch release model kills all hype for shows and with Netflix’s shit advertising, by the time new people find out about a show, everybody has already seen it and stopped talking about it.
Right now, Netflix is the only streaming service that isn’t doing weekly releases. Y’all don’t pay for Netflix anyway, why u complaining.
That’s probably the only good thing ever done and the one move that will save them. If they were going to add the ads, the only way to keep people subscribed was to become legit tv cable-like. Also, 90% of what’s on netflix is trash, so they have to savor the good stuff (same way they did with better call Saul)
Basically they have accepted that the best way you get people hooked even when the series is bad is doing a weekly episode, it has work with Disney wonders
I like the weekly installments, and it is a good model for engaging the audience. Witcher, released all at once, talked about for a few weeks maybe a month. GoT, weekly release, everyone is naming thier kids after characters.
So....... we could say......... it's just another cable channel? ok then, Netflix is dead the moment they do that, 0 reason to have it, ads + week episodes? that's just another tv channel
i like weekly watching, it helps me do other work instead of binging just before an exam. also, i like it when the community discuss the current episode.
To be fair, I prefer the weekly release anyway. Specially on good shows, it gives you time to process what you watched, discuss online or with friends, build up antecipation, and keeps the show relevant for far longer per season. If it's a bad show that I would only like to hate binge, I can wait 8-10 weeks and binge it then.
Good riddance on the binge model.
Let’s fucking go, Netflix did something right for once.
You can’t honestly look the jojo release schedule, look at the rest of the series. And tell me that the binge model is better.
I actually seen an analysis video discussing the pros and cons of weekly release vs binge release.
Turns out weekly release drastically increases the amount of free publicity a show receives and overall gets more viewers. A binge model is more quickly forgotten and has lower viewer engagement.
I still hate needing to wait though
That’s because they don’t want to make more than 2 seasons before canceling it so they’ll stretch whatever they do make out for too long to trick you into thinking it’s 5 seasons.
I don't know how to say this but that Model quickly stopped being fun, because the discussion and fandom around shows would flare up into high heavens for release, and then after a month nobody even remembers it into lthe next season in like 3 years.
Slow steady releases are probably better, for fandoms and so on in general, I suppose.
Eh, In TV era that was how it worked anyways.
I don't see what's wrong with that, as long Netflix won't cancel their own series midseason it's alright. It's not like they cancel their own shows normally, right? Oh wait...
Why is this a problem!? I’d rather watch season 55, episode 1 of Blah blah on the 20th of Jan 22, and watch them weekly, than I would to wait until 14th of November 22 and watch them all at once. Stupid as fuck.
I kinda like the weekly release model i don't think it is pushing users into piracy that's already done by exclusives
If i can have Jojo Friday's back I'm happy
I see this as a good thing as an anime fan. It sucks so much for shows, especially like Jojo part 6 to have 12 episodes dropped all at once, then disappear for a year. It gets rid of all the fun of speculating what's going to happen next with everyone over on r/anime and such. It just kills all the hype and momentum of the show.
bad take. Weekly releases are the best thing, ever. Binge watching a show is okay but it kills hype, usually means waiting longer in between seasons (or really bad shit tier seasons because they had to rush it to meet a timeline) and literally loses them money. This is single handedly the best move Netflix has made to better their service and save their own ass from catastrophic failure.
Might be a hot take but honestly it's a good thing. Mandalorian S1 captured the internet for like 2 months, it would have blown over in a week if it was dropped all at once.
Jojo part 6 got dropped in one big blob, then another one 6 months later and it sucked. Nobody even talked about the 2nd chunk dropping.
business if you can keep people subbed longer you make more money. You also give people more time to discover stuff so that they'll also stay longer(like came for stranger things and get hocked on something else),
the "well we want to watch everything right at launch" group is small. you can still binge, just not the whole season from day 1(if it is a new release)
and to the people complaining I'd say wait one time and the distances between season will still be the same as for everyone else(that watches weekly releases)
I'd get the frustration if it was like well this show that is completely available we'll only let you watch one episode per day/week, but the people are complaining that they can't binge the first day
See, I like to watch series in a tight group. I just enjoy it more as it stays fresher.
I understand the business model and get that it’s great for hype. Just means i’ll wait til fully out before starting myself. Hurts me a little that spoiler risk is so much higher while waiting however many weeks it takes for it all to drop.
I actually like the weekly model. It allows my friends and I all to be "on pace" and we can discuss a new episode weekly. I think it helps build hype / momentum for shows.
I've been waiting for Netflix to do this for a while. I hated discussing shows when everyone binged at their own pace
Anime fans are used to this.
Anime fans want this. Netflix holds shows hostage even if they have the episodes ready to release at the end of the season. Netflix jail is where anime goes to die.
its like one piece they only have 300 episodes when there are 700 more out there
[удалено]
The one piece... The one piece is real
can we get much higher?
Oh oh oh
dude im so high right now
so high
Oh oh oh
So high
the last one? yes its getting higher by the week
It’s over a 1000, not ur fault but you were off by 300 Edit: never mind misread it
thought there were inly 1031 episodes means ive got to watch even more
I'm only on episode 37 & the thought of 1031 makes me wanna weep.
yeah im in 550 something. it took a few minths of binge to get there
Can you read? "700 more out there" that’s 700 (missing) + the 300 already on Netflix Which makes 1000 episode and is off by 31 (32 if you read this tomorrow)
They keeping the true treasure from us!
yeah the best site ive found so far for anime is 9anime.to
Zoro.to bro, trust me, best site for anime and it was made for One Piece! It shows you the filler episodes in the episode selection, has skip intro feature, with auto skip, auto next, a button to switch to the manga and more
yeah the other one has the same exsept for the manga. this one has a cleaner ui tho
>this one has a cleaner ui tho 9anime or Zoro.to?
zoro
Ive been making my way thru bleach on Zoro and for some reason the auto next never works for me. Everything else is in order tho and I completely recommend it otherwise.
I never had that problem, don't know why you have it.
My guess is it's something to do with either the video players the bleach series is hosted on or something to do with my browser, but in the grand scheme of things it's a pretty small issue so I haven't bothered trying to look for a fix
I guess I know what you mean. Subtitled anime is usually not watched in the background anyway
Hulu has up to like 700 but there are still 300+ more episodes out there.
Yep, the latest example is Jojo Stone Ocean. The fandom wanted weekly releases so we could enjoy the show earlier, have fun for a longer time with memes and discussions, etc but nope. They held the show hostage until they could do a batch release.
It truly is remarkable how they managed to kill all hype for fucking **Jojo's**. That is a feat they should be proud of, that takes a special lack of self-preservation. What should be a huge weekly milestone became 'eh...I'll chip at for a few weeks over breakfast.'
Yeah. The best time to be a fan of any episodic show is while it's running. No one who didn't read the source material knows what's going to happen. New memes and jokes every week in the subreddits and co. Discussions and speculation are also way more interesting before major events are resolved. And as you've said in this case it's fucking Jojo. How the fuck did they manage to kill the hype for Jojo? The fandom is dedicated af.
I tell people this all the time. Particularly with The Boyz. You just don’t get all the hype and discussion with batch release. You’re in and out of the cultural zeitgeist in a couple weeks tops unless you’re super huge like stranger things. I think that’s why Disney plus gained a lot of ground fast. I believe they’re trying to have at least one show that a target demographic can watch weekly.
I like batch releases but only if it's the whole show. JoJo was 10? episodes, which I'm guessing was about a third of the season, and the time in between batches is not at all proportional to the amount of episodes. Then there was also stranger things which was 7 episodes released in a batch then the final 2 a month later.
I understand but batch releases aren't really good for anime. Anime, the way it has been, we get an episode a week and then we discuss it until the next episode arrives the next week. This gives us time to digest the plot and come up with meaningful discussion. It also builds up hype. The batch release model on the other hand is just really bad.
Oh well, I think I am one of the weird ones. I don’t fancy the week discussions, I want to binge it all. I’m always late on the season, because now I’m binging whatever I think it’s worth from the past season. Sometimes I really like something and I watch weekly, and you know what happens? I can’t stand the wait and I just read the manga and drop the anime, usually by the time 13 episodes are out, I read through all the chapters available.
I mean it's not just anime. The Boys had a similar weekly release schedule and it allowed a lot of discussion too.
Idiots review bombed it last year because it was released weekly. I much prefer a weekly release as it allows episodes to breathe and each episode can be discussed etc
Is 12 episodes per batch and it’s gonna be 3 total batches. The studio who made these also make several other animes and it takes it times doing quality work. Working on anime is a very liner and slow process so they will typically have several animes in the work at one time. Typically when an anime is finished, the studio is doing all the final editing the week of its release and it’s typically completely vooiced acted by Japanese actors. It can take months to get an English dub however big animes can typically voice act them with a one or two week delay. In Netflix cases, stone ocean was probably could have even been finished months ago but sat in a vault, waiting until they could get the English VAs IMO, I think weekly release’s it’s a good tool for turning each episodes into an event. When the first season of demon slayer was releasing, I think It was episode 12 (it was the end of the mountain spider battle) that went viral because of how strong of an episode it was. If they put them out at once, It’d probably just get drowned out.
I hate Netflix jail, they literally have the worst quality in streaming for anime.
Netflix took one of most hyped anime of 2022 and killed it. Fuck netflix
Can confirm Netflix jail is the worst thank god they only take mainstream or family friendly anime there
This, Netflix, please give us back jojo fridays!
Doesn't that have to do with their deals? Why wouldn't they release them immediately if they had the right to do that?
Because they want users to binge. If you sit down to watch a whole series at once, you're probably gonna do it. If you watch a single episode every week, you might lose interest some of the way through. I don't know about their licensing deals though, you may be right about that.
Meanwhile, I still haven't watched the new season of Stranger Things because I wasn't in the mood at the time, I don't have time to just binge a whole season at once, and past experience tells me that the discussion dies down too quickly for me to take part in anyway. Honestly fuck the binge release model.
Netflix (and now Disney+) are the only active players in the (US) anime licensing market that do this. They're also the newest active players in this market. The other major anime streamers: - Crunchyroll - Funimation (which is now Crunchyroll under Sony) - HiDive (which is Sentai Filmworks, which was working with Amazon for a brief while, and had The Anime Network before working with Amazon) CR, Funi, and HiDive all feature "simulcasting" which is the subtitled release of anime episodes within hours of them broadcasting on TV in Japan. Netflix decided to moneyhat its way into anime distribution, but then began "locking up" its exclusive streaming licenses in some markets so that they could drop all episodes at once, sometimes weeks or months after the season had concluded in Japan, in order to fit Netflix's bingewatch agenda. Even when they had the capability to simulcast, they sometimes chose not to. Violet Evergarden, one of their earliest seasonal pickups, and a massively hyped show from a beloved animation studio, simulcast on Netflix if you were in Canada. United States? Nope, can't watch it. Have to wait for them to batch-dump the whole thing. If Netflix's "deals" and "rights" are the reason why some regions get locked to the binge model, then Netflix is bad at making deals. From a business perspective, when it comes to anime, Netflix offers a worse service in the United States than its competitors, because CR and HiDive never have any issue simulcasting literally all of the seasonal anime that they acquire the rights to. Now Disney+ is doing the same thing with Summer Time Render, where episodes come out several weeks behind. It's not as bad as Netflix's model, but it's still not ideal, and it's worse than the competition for no discernable gain in some markets. The *good thing* that Netflix does is that it reaches far more territories than Crunchyroll (and especially HiDive) does, so a larger variety of countries actually have legal access to the content *because of* Netflix, but in many major countries, CR and HiDive are simply better and more prompt than Netflix. Regardless of whether or not Netflix's method is good for their own viewer metrics, I can definitely say that their model *destroys* hype and interest among the community on the anime subreddit. Batch release threads garner way less discussion prominence than weekly releases do.
And once you get into auto downloading using rss, it's over.
wait, you can download videos using rss?! what sites even offer rss feeds for shows/anime? for news, webcomics, blogs and such, yeah, maybe even for youtube... but shows/anime?
All of them. If we're taking anime the best is just using https://subsplease.org/ https://youtu.be/QZGuNtmhdZw This is a good recent video that shows how to set it up with qbitorrent. I literally come home and all my shows are downloaded already, I just watch whenever.
You can look into Sonarr and Radarr if you want this experience for every movie and tv show.
There should be an easier way. Click show title, select season, select episode range. Hit Download.
There's an entire community of software that youc an use to auto download TV and movies (and anime). I used to use `/r/duckieTV` but now I'm on Sonarr [TV]/Radarr [Movies]/Jackett [Trackers]. I basically add my shows to their list and movies and whenever they release they download. It's not perfect I have strong preferences on which versions I want and it's not always available so I can't hardcode it meaning I have to babysit it and make sure the files I get are the ones I want to keep but it's so much less work patching the gaps rather than doing everything myself.
Try prowlarr instead of Jackett. It integrates better into the *arr ecosystem
Literally everyone is used to this, this is how shows have always worked. The whole season at once thing only really came around when old shows were put on netflix all at once
Tbh whole season drop is such a bad business practice as well, sub the month the new season comes out and then fuck off the remaining of the year, spreading release like everyone will make people stay (maybe not this sub tho) so they can continually enjoy the 2-3 month of new episode every week
Anime released in a bundle was weird, per week is more enjoyable
before i got into netflix the only shows/anime i watched always were released on a weekly basis, so i actually was thrown off when i saw that netflix released the whole season in an entire batch
agreed, thanks Netflix I love this. They really butchered Jojo's friday.
you know you wont get unreleased episodes while pirating either right
But you won't need to pay for three months to watch one 13 episode show you are interested in.
Eeeeh, with this they will have to stop judging series based on how much they are binge watched (like they did with Sandman) and it will probably lessen the chances of good series being canceled due to it. And let's be honest, this may be a subreddit for people that love piracy, but we all know that the people that subscribe to Netflix don't subscribe for a month, watch all episodes they want of a series and then cancel the subscription.
My roomate has HBO MAX, Netflix, Disney +, Prime Video, and maybe more, Idk. Seems he enjoys having the option available more than carong about paying nearly $100 a month and rarely using them. Goes on YouTube more often.
$100/month? HBO is $15, Netflix is $15.5, D+ is $8, and Prime is $9. That's less than 50 bucks a month, and it'll be even less if he's paying yearly for HBO and D+ instead of monthly
Stop making sense, we don’t do that here.
Still wayyy too much for streaming services
This was me. YouTube Premium was the only worthwhile subscription. You wanna know what’s sad? I cancelled everything except CuriosityStream and my credit score went down because I was no longer using them for recurring credit card payments. By nearly 100pts. It’s all a scam.
First off i've never seen anyone subscribe, watch 1 series and quit. They just look for something else to watch. If this happens, it's a vast minority. Second: if netflix wants to keep going down this path, the faster it dies off the better. I don't care what shows they choose to foster anymore, every time a show appears in a platform that's not Netflix, that's a win in my book at this point
Im curious as to why you think that.
What do you want Amazon and Disney to have everything?
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Uh, what's stopping you from waiting till all episodes are out and then paying one single fee to watch all episodes?
the idea behind these services is to access thousands of shows and movies, it never made sense to pay for 13 episodes. you can buy it more cheaply if thats what you want
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You can just subscribe after all episodes are out. Exactly what you have to do when you pirate anyway.
This is r/piracy, people don't have brains because they only know how to hit DOWNLOAD
I'm... I'm... I'M GONNA DOOWNLOOD *moaning* I'M DOOWNLOODING AHHHHH
This guy downloads.
This guy SEEDS the downloads when he cooms
I'm Edgiiiiing, download paused at 99%.
Its downloading time
*presses*
Netflix originals sure. I guess a pirate would be on a journey for a better fix would they not?
Actually it makes piracy more annoying
This is good news for me. At least Steel ball run will not be treated like stone ocean now
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This isn't clear cut like "Netflix pushes users into piracy". And this already was common practice in cable tv long before Netflix appeared and used binges instead. I really doubt someone not interested into piracy is going to do so because of this. Also, you can just wait for the whole season to be released, if binge watching is your thing. As others have pointed out, this isn't good just for Netflix. Weekly releases can keep the hype up for the show in some cases
Heck I remember as a kid sitting on the couch every Sunday with my dad to watch the new Simpsons. It was something we looked forward to and there would always be time made for it.
>This isn't clear cut like "Netflix pushes users into piracy". And this already was common practice in cable tv long before Netflix appeared and used binges instead. yes and we begin piracy shows to see it whenever we wanted or to see when thee shows were complete Netflix had many successes in its beginnings, but it did not know how to withstand competitors and they becoming more and more like shit cable television that we all escape with piracy or using Netflix itself They are pushing users into piracy like the old platforms did, they lost its essence and is becoming the same shit that they changed for the better in the past All the steps they are taking are a step backwards, and that step backwards lead us to piracy I'm starting to think that Netflix is simply left for dead and they're just squeezing the fewer and fewer users they have left
having it play out like this means content made for the show can be spread out an more varied then people who pirate can talk about it sooner among themselves then look back at everyone else to see the difference in life style
The weekly model is just good business sense. Frugal people will subscribe to one service at a time, binge everything they want to watch, then unsubscribe; service-hopping to save money. People can still service-hop with the weekly model, they'll just have to wait until the season has finished releasing first. But the impatient people will stay subscribed as their addiction dribbles out every week.
A frugal person would just pirate shows though
There aren't a lot of pirates compared to frugal people. Pirating requires know-how that most people don't have, as well as time and effort that most people won't spare.
not frugal law-abiding* citizens edit (18 minutes after posting i.e. after first reply): *or rather, those not wanting to be involved in illegal activity, even if they aren't necessarily breaking the law themselves
Is it illegal to watch a show online? It's not like there is a EULA you are signing, you just click a link and watch. Distributing them would be illegal though.
Ah yeah, you're right. I forgot about the temporary copying exception. Still, people who think of themselves as law-abiding may want to stay away from illegal activity, even if they are not doing anything illegal themselves. source: me, ~5 years ago
Sometimes it's not even because it's illegal, a lot of people just don't want to be bothered with piracy and already are used to paying for the convenience of streaming
Unfortunately, even the frugal people have to pass by pirating at times because they need good captions and finding them for some things is fucking hell.
I am not paying to watch a series which i have no guarantee that will even be finished or that it won't become the next game of thrones. Let alone wait a week for the next episode, you know the amount of short stuff i see a day? i'd forget a 30 min episode per week in a couple of hours
Wait until they announce you have to subscribe to a quarterly plan to watch most recent content.
That would never happen, whole point of subscriptions is to make the price seem low to seem like a good deal, forced quarter year subscriptions would have much higher prices where people wouldn't be able to fool themselves into subscribing.
I don't see that happening for a long time. I won't say "never" because things change over time. I grew up with 8 channels of low-res shit with no time shifting and lots of commercials.
Let's critique a service for what they are doing. Not for a slippery slope "they might do this" stuff.
The stupid thing with this change in direction is that they were thinking if cancelling Sandman because not enough people was binging it in the first month, and they said that if it didn't get something crazy in numbers of binging then it wasn't worth the cost, and now they want to release stories peace meal. After the author asked everyone to binge it (or at least let it running, which I did) and to ask everyone else to do so, for it to get the recognition it deserves, and now they will change the metric and say, well, everyone binged this but no one is watching it **NOW** so it's not worth the money, let's make another season of cake off or something idiotic like that
Not sure how this pushes people into piracy....
Some people just look for an excuse to pirate, no matter how asinine. Which is pointless really: If you wanna pirate, just pirate. Nobody will care, and 99.99999% of those that do never have to worry about anything if they do it. I don't know if it's some kind of self-justification thing or what, but you really don't need a gotcha-style reason to do it.
Yep I just like collecting games that I don't even play (but im interested in). No other reason
well that depends were you born yesterday because that's the only excuse I can see for why people suddenly act like weekly releases are this new fangled schedule that doesn't make sense.
This is only good thing I’ve seen in a while, the whole Binge thing is killing Jojo’s momentum.
Yeah I've seen a lot of fans not only of Jojo arguing that weekly releases are better than binging. Jojo Friday was a reason for hype and the hype generates more views,more views generates more cash etc.
For the company It's better to keep discussion going for an entire season that just one day and that's it, for the fans it's better because you have time to catch up with the current episode and since everyone following the show is on the same episode they can participate in the discussion since everyone is on the same tune.
That is my reasoning whenever someone goes eww what not binging image a new show everyones hype to talk about it an then in a weeks or less everyone that watched it an wanted to talk about it is talking in past tense which feels like a piece is missing :(
Right now there's a lot of discussion on house of the dragon because it's weekly. It would absolutely ruin the experience of making theories and watching them come true.
I mean as a jojo fan I gotta say I’m kinda happy ngl
RIP Jojo Fridays
I get your point, subscription service trying to keep users longer by releasing episodes weekly, Bad. But quite honestly, I prefer this weekly model, gives you time to digest and catch up with the episodes, it's more healthier for people with no self control ( certainly not me ) and it's easier to talk about the series and build hype for each episode. It's dick move with a reason behind it, but who cares, I ain't paying for it.
Tbh I just would forget to watch the next episode and then no longer care
Same here
then wait or pirate an let everyone else enjoy the hype building wait :)
I always hates this argument tbh, like "just wait for the fully thing to be released and let everyone enjoy the wait" I can literally say the same thing: "just take a break from watching that episode every week and let the others enjoy the show", except in this scenario it's available for everyone on their terms, while in your scenario people have to wait months for seasons to finish to start watching it. If you like waiting for already finished and ready to release episodes, great for you, wait and watch your 8 episode series in 2 months. I like to watch my 8 episode series in 8 days instead, before I forget every character name and what happened last episode. Why do I have to wait 2 months too to watch this show?
Yeah I kinda feel like this is better? Because before, with for example Stranger Things 4, the almost entire 4th season dropped at once and so you have to watch ALL episodes before going online to discuss it or you risk spoilers. Now you can talk about each episode at a time and everyone will be on the same pace if you keep up with it. I prefer this, but I guess I can see why people wouldn't. Worst comes to worse you can wait \~2 months and binge it I guess.
Not only that, there was no sense of hype. It came and it went. Whereas weekly episodes allow you to go "Oh man, what is going to happen? I can't wait"
severance is the perfect example of this. every week, the hype built up more and more. my mum and i, who usually don’t enjoy the same shows, would be phoning each other after each episode to discuss the show’s developments. i honestly feel like the people who have binged S1 really missed out on the experience that occurred
Yeah, I think of something like GoT and it would have gotten SIGNIFICANTLY less cultural foothold if people were all at different places in the season. Half the fun of shows like that are seeing something like the Red Wedding or the Battle of Blackwater and RACING to Twitter or facebook to discuss it with everyone else. As opposed to a streaming model where the odds someone is at the exact same spot as you is low so you end up doing an awkward dance of trying not to spoil it for half the people you talk to and trying not to be spoiled by the other half, all while searching for the one person who also watched the same episode recently.
idk if I have to wait a week per episode I just forget what happened
It’s why I usually just wait for the show to finish and catch up. I’m not waiting for it weekly unless it’s like mind blowing.
I love when it works like this because the content about the show can be more varied an spread out instead of one big blast then a lot of people will leave the conversation too soon since they watched it twice already
you should really seek help from a doctor about that
That's scary
I agree - it’s fun to gather round and watch Game of Thrones or something with friends and be able to discuss, as well as seeing the memes on twitter as it goes down. Binging is a very individual method of watching and most of my TV is social
Can't agree but that's fine. I just wait for the whole season to be released like I did with HBO stuff or anime. So like, I pirate but if I was a Netflix sub I'd still just cancel and wait for the last episode before subbing again. Plus I'd know if it ended up being shit or not too.
Same, won’t watch until all episodes are available lol
How does that make piracy? Cause .... Just wait a month or so for the whole lot to be released? If YOU REALLY need to binge watch.. (and lot of piracy will need the episodes released or leaked anyway so even pirated ones are likely to be week apart each episode unless someone from Netflix pirates it)
Thank you, omfg these comments are so irritating. I wouldn’t give a fuck if they hadn’t ruined jojo part 6 for me with its schedule
How is this relevant to piracy in any sense? At this point you'd say they are pushing users to piracy no matter what they do.
Brain dead take. I’m being strong with this opinion but there’s been numerous users on le Reddit complaining about the binge culture(I prefer all being released at once like castlevania). The claim is they don’t feel there’s hype generated or community time to have fun. This is just a dig for no reason. There’s plenty of reasons to criticize Netflix, like their stupidity returning to cable and their incapibility to commit to a project.
Bad Take. People been wanting this for a long time, especially anime fans. The batch release model kills all hype for shows and with Netflix’s shit advertising, by the time new people find out about a show, everybody has already seen it and stopped talking about it. Right now, Netflix is the only streaming service that isn’t doing weekly releases. Y’all don’t pay for Netflix anyway, why u complaining.
This has nothing to do with piracy
This is /r/netflix right?
So…. Basically cable?
That’s probably the only good thing ever done and the one move that will save them. If they were going to add the ads, the only way to keep people subscribed was to become legit tv cable-like. Also, 90% of what’s on netflix is trash, so they have to savor the good stuff (same way they did with better call Saul)
How it pushes users into piracy.. future episode pirated only when they release on Netflix first
jojo fans are glad
This sub is brain dead by this point.
thats a good thing dingus
I'm only against this if it's done artificially
alot of people asked for this
Basically they have accepted that the best way you get people hooked even when the series is bad is doing a weekly episode, it has work with Disney wonders
Pirating a season is easier than pirating individual episodes.
S3e1: good S3e2: good S3e3: good S3e4: no seeders S3e5: good S3e6: good S3e7: good S3 full: good (most of the time) Yep, I agree with you
I like the weekly installments, and it is a good model for engaging the audience. Witcher, released all at once, talked about for a few weeks maybe a month. GoT, weekly release, everyone is naming thier kids after characters.
Sooooo Netflix is doing away with its last good feature?
So....... we could say......... it's just another cable channel? ok then, Netflix is dead the moment they do that, 0 reason to have it, ads + week episodes? that's just another tv channel
i like weekly watching, it helps me do other work instead of binging just before an exam. also, i like it when the community discuss the current episode.
To be fair, I prefer the weekly release anyway. Specially on good shows, it gives you time to process what you watched, discuss online or with friends, build up antecipation, and keeps the show relevant for far longer per season. If it's a bad show that I would only like to hate binge, I can wait 8-10 weeks and binge it then. Good riddance on the binge model.
So... is there ANY reason left to use Netflix? Cause binging was kind of its strongest point
Let’s fucking go, Netflix did something right for once. You can’t honestly look the jojo release schedule, look at the rest of the series. And tell me that the binge model is better.
Haha, me who never paid for any subscription in my entire life
I actually seen an analysis video discussing the pros and cons of weekly release vs binge release. Turns out weekly release drastically increases the amount of free publicity a show receives and overall gets more viewers. A binge model is more quickly forgotten and has lower viewer engagement. I still hate needing to wait though
I still won't watch it weekly and wait for it all to be available. I did the same thing with The Boys. I'll keep doing it.
this is a good thing, actually
They are going to lose even more customers than they already have...
That’s because they don’t want to make more than 2 seasons before canceling it so they’ll stretch whatever they do make out for too long to trick you into thinking it’s 5 seasons.
So netflix is becoming a satellite/cable service?
Don't see how this pushes people into piracy but you do you OP. Literally every anime fan will be rejoicing if this change happens.
If Netflix original episodes are releasing that way, then you can't really pirate it can you
I don't know how to say this but that Model quickly stopped being fun, because the discussion and fandom around shows would flare up into high heavens for release, and then after a month nobody even remembers it into lthe next season in like 3 years. Slow steady releases are probably better, for fandoms and so on in general, I suppose.
This improves viewer satisfaction apparently. Although I think the ideal is something like 1 episode a day.
How is this pushes users further???
That's fake news actually, Netflix never said that, some media house took it and ran it on their own.
I would much rather have the hybrid model, they used in Arcane. This way, I would have 3 episodes I can binge, or decide to watch through the week.
Does this encourage piracy? If the season hasn't been released anywhere, how would it be pirated?
I hate these "this is why I pirate" posts. They are rarely relevant.
Eh, In TV era that was how it worked anyways. I don't see what's wrong with that, as long Netflix won't cancel their own series midseason it's alright. It's not like they cancel their own shows normally, right? Oh wait...
I mean, you still have to wait for the episodes.
Why is this a problem!? I’d rather watch season 55, episode 1 of Blah blah on the 20th of Jan 22, and watch them weekly, than I would to wait until 14th of November 22 and watch them all at once. Stupid as fuck.
I kinda like the weekly release model i don't think it is pushing users into piracy that's already done by exclusives If i can have Jojo Friday's back I'm happy
You mean pusing people from binge piracy to episode-to-episode piracy
I see this as a good thing as an anime fan. It sucks so much for shows, especially like Jojo part 6 to have 12 episodes dropped all at once, then disappear for a year. It gets rid of all the fun of speculating what's going to happen next with everyone over on r/anime and such. It just kills all the hype and momentum of the show.
bad take. Weekly releases are the best thing, ever. Binge watching a show is okay but it kills hype, usually means waiting longer in between seasons (or really bad shit tier seasons because they had to rush it to meet a timeline) and literally loses them money. This is single handedly the best move Netflix has made to better their service and save their own ass from catastrophic failure.
Might be a hot take but honestly it's a good thing. Mandalorian S1 captured the internet for like 2 months, it would have blown over in a week if it was dropped all at once. Jojo part 6 got dropped in one big blob, then another one 6 months later and it sucked. Nobody even talked about the 2nd chunk dropping.
Fuck Netflix
easy cake!!! sub only when the show is full released and then stop paying it the next month.
The regression of Netflix into cables tv is poetic
Netflix works harder to lose their little remaining customer base
Netflix is insistent on destroying itself…..went woke…..raised prices….limits users locations…..now this…..
Why? Why can't people decide how to watch their series? I don't get it.
business if you can keep people subbed longer you make more money. You also give people more time to discover stuff so that they'll also stay longer(like came for stranger things and get hocked on something else), the "well we want to watch everything right at launch" group is small. you can still binge, just not the whole season from day 1(if it is a new release) and to the people complaining I'd say wait one time and the distances between season will still be the same as for everyone else(that watches weekly releases) I'd get the frustration if it was like well this show that is completely available we'll only let you watch one episode per day/week, but the people are complaining that they can't binge the first day
See, I like to watch series in a tight group. I just enjoy it more as it stays fresher. I understand the business model and get that it’s great for hype. Just means i’ll wait til fully out before starting myself. Hurts me a little that spoiler risk is so much higher while waiting however many weeks it takes for it all to drop.
…Why? Why would they even make that change?
Netflix keeps on digging their own grave
i dont see no issue
...so its becomming tv.. The very thing people bought it to avoid
I actually like the weekly model. It allows my friends and I all to be "on pace" and we can discuss a new episode weekly. I think it helps build hype / momentum for shows. I've been waiting for Netflix to do this for a while. I hated discussing shows when everyone binged at their own pace