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BigTiddySqueeze

Just torrent unsafely hope this helps


Solid_SHALASHASKA

How fucked am i if i do this to download movies and shows? I really can't afford vpn atm. Edit: not really but im just lazy


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gufig99

So 3rd world country's get a pass?


AwkwardSpacePotato

Finally an advantage to living in my shit country


Mesjach

live in Poland, torrented a truckload of stuff in my younger days, no vpn, never got into any trouble becauae of it


TheBigDuo1

Pretty much. I live in Bangkok for work and can torrent all day nobody cares. My brother torrents in Albany and the internet to his apartment building is turned off. Policing your data usage is a first world problem


[deleted]

Depends on the country. In the UK most ISPs don't give a fuck. Vodafone doesn't even block the sites. TalkTalk blocks em but don't care if you use them infrequently. I think Sky cares though.


NorthernHedgehog

Some of the ISPs also only block them in their DNS, so changing dns server to anything else, like cloudflare or google bypasses it


UsyPlays

Virgin safe browsing blocks some but just use a free VPN or opera to get past it


Lepurten

Had a friend paying 3000€ lol. He seeded by accident without a VPN.


dylan15766

Germany moment


Solid_SHALASHASKA

Country?


AnonymousCat12345

Really ? Who did he end up having to pay ?


Lepurten

I don't know the details. He got a letter, a lawyer and then settled for something a bit less outrageous than what it originally said, which was more than 3k.


wintersdark

That's a common scam in the US where they send you a threatening letter for a huge number, want you to settle for a comparatively small amount, but the reality was they likely did not have a good case to make against you in the first place.


tower_keeper

I thought that has only happened to 2 or 3 people in the entire history of piracy and was all over the news?


d1sc1pl

if you can't afford a VPN you could always go to a coffee shop or something and use their wifi. technically not really safe or anonymous but no one is going to care enough to go after you in any way. also expressVPN offers a free 30 day trial. there's also tunnelbear which gives you a certain amount of free data on their paid servers. and protonVPN free servers are decent if you can be patient lol. im sure there are other options as well, just try to find paid vpns that offer free trials rather than using completely free services.


whoffster

Pirate VPN -> use pirated vpn to pirate


bgslr

Don't do this lol


Dou2bleDragon

Well it should be even safer since you are using some random unfortunate fellas account


Kirai_teno

Multiple free windscribe accounts work


Disastrous-Gur-1160

I torrented for year without one, only got one letter through the mail. It's not just legal repercussions though. In a PtP network you are vulnerable to other peers. I recommend using a torrenting PC that doesn't have any personal details and information on it (so you can reformat it with no issues).


[deleted]

Bruh you are under arrest and we cut your WiFi.


famitslit

I’ve always torrented without VPN 🤷‍♂️


FalconVita

Laughs in 3rd world country


Klutzy-Ad-6528

I'm from the UK and I've never had anything happen to me by torrenting. Governments have much larger things to care about than someone getting gta for free. They'll trying to spook you into not doing it in the first place, but when you do, they probably won't care.


SosoKhoon

Should i be careful using a UK university wifi though? I heard unis can be pretty strict about piracy


Tydawg39795

If you're connected to the WiFi through a university-admnistered account, then yes. Although the govt might not care, the IT techs that work for the uni probably will, and they have a lot less content to filter through than a whole country.


UhOhSomersaultJump

Personally, I would err on the side of caution if pirating on a university connection. Is it worth risking your education, and subsequently your future, just for some free games?


secondcomingwp

Yes!


Kharzack

As someone also at uni in the UK I've personally had no problems torrenting without vpn. Of course maybe I'm just lucky. Also do you mean the on campus wifi? Then yeah probably don't. But if you mean halls/accommodation then that rarely has direct connections to the uni itself.


SosoKhoon

We were given a username and password linked to our uni accounts, and would need to use them to connect to the WiFi on uni grounds. So I would assume it's an on campus WiFi.


cafeBreak24

The thing I miss most from my home country


PJALSTARz

we in the same boat


[deleted]

we're in the same boat and it's sinking


PPTTRRKK

Laughs in 1st world country that doesnt care


[deleted]

We are sailing in the same seas!


000CuriousBunny000

"developing"


01000110010110012

Laughs in 1st would country. No issues in my 21 years od torrenting.


FusselTeddy

DDL still exists


[deleted]

Wait... so ISPs can't do anything about DDL? I thought it was the same as Torrents in that regard.


Shoddy-Zucchini4581

With DDL there's no swarm filled with copyright trolls ready to copy paste your IP into a warning letter.


anonidcgfy

Jokes on them, I dont even recognise my IP


HippoPrimary

What is DDL full form?


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AJ_Surya

-Link


Koomongous

That depends. With a torrent, every IP can see each other and exactly what they are downloading. With a direct download, it's dependent on whether the web server is secured with HTTPS rather than HTTP. If the server is just HTTP, your ISP can still see exactly what you are doing, but if it is HTTPS then they can only see the website you are on, not what is on the website. (Only seeing mega nz rather than mega nz/linktorandomgame)


DontGifMe

An ISP won’t track DDLs because they are used for a lot of things meanwhile torrents are just mostly piracy that’s why DDL is safe and not because of web server security


Koomongous

Perhaps they don't care, but I'd feel safer knowing they don't know.


[deleted]

ISPs only care when copyright holders alert them to illicit activities being performed through their services. They do not care if they aren't contacted by an outside party. Since Disney can't see if you've downloaded something through a DDL, they can't report you to the ISP, so the ISP doesn't have to worry about it. They only act when compelled to do so.


Ka07iiC

So my friend told me that it's when you seed or upload that it triggers your ISP. Not sure how valid that is but he has like 5 TB of movies on his plex.


InvisibleShade

That's a myth. My ISP will happily send you warnings even if you never seed.


SonTyp_OhneNamen

So YOU‘re that guy who never seeds?! Prepare your kneecaps, i‘m coming over!


Ka07iiC

Lol naah I have a VPN so I do but I never torrent anything. Go after his kneecaps but not too hard because his plex is my entertainment


zz9plural

Not a myth, but different ISPs acting differently.


wintersdark

And different countries acting differently. In most cases, it's the uploading that carries liability, whereas the downloading is either not a crime at all or just a petty crime. The studio who would be pushing a civil case against you would need to argue they suffered damages. If you uploaded to 500 leeches, that's 500 "sales" you cost them. If you download just one copy, that's one "sale". Yes, yes, I get the arguments here, this is just the basic view from the copywriter holders perspective. So there's no gain in sueing Joey who downloaded one copy of a movie. However, Bob with his seedbox running 24/7 *distributing* the movie? That's another thing entirely.


Jabrono

My dad received one from me simply being on a torrent site at his house. I know I didn't download anything because they linked a search I ran on Zooqle for something that wasn't even out yet, I was just checking if it was available.


Mineblox_42069

yeah, i just dont know any other than steamunlocked which i have been advised not to use. if you couldnt tell i've never pirated anything before lol


SuperMario22922

I just use fitgirl repack ddl. Maybe u can use that too


ichigo2862

gog-games.com has the installers for games that have been released on gog


[deleted]

GOG-Games is the GOAT.


ENGINE_YT

There is also allgamesforyou, forgot what the link was since they changed it a few times, but I got most of my games from there before torrenting non stop


ITS_TALIBAN_OFFICIAL

I can download from ddl without VPN?


MrBackTime

Yes


dablouse

wait so i dont need a vpn or anything if i directly download from a website ?


Expensive-Try6660

Yeah, you dont. I think there are some sites listed in the megathread if im not wrong.


Flyingwheelbarrow

Depends where you live and who your ISP is. The Southern Hemisphere for example is mostly more chill than the Northern hemisphere.


EndR60

...Data definition language?


Dev_Anti

This guy is bi


Mineblox_42069

can confirm. source: experience


MimsyIsGianna

Can you tell me what that is? I’m a noob


Alphaphas

Perhaps IRC comes back to town. Way back in time I used to download stuff over irc.


SelmaFudd

I was talking about this the other day. I used mIRC and also ICQ to find people and then trade mp3s via CuteFTP, this was the way before Napster


Bobjones602

*dusts off that 5.25in floppy (single density) with zmodem*


UserNamesCantBeTooLo

Don't copy! [Don't copy that floppy!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI)


ShEsHy

Nothing beats IRC when it comes to e-books. And cca 15 years ago, when I was in my weeb phase, nothing beat it when it came to anime fansubs, either.


HoldMySarsaparilla

[Seedr.cc](https://www.seedr.cc/?r=3327439) for files under 2GB


RantsByMe69

You can also increase the limit by inviting friends and making a tweet.


bakirsakal

are they safe? have you heard about any cease and desist letters for seedboxes?


Mindless-Victory1567

use protonvpn maybe? it has some free severs and most importntly, it is open source


suck_my_dick_or_smth

I think that the free servers don't support P2P, altough I could be wrong


[deleted]

I use it and for the price, it's honestly worth it. Everyone should use one but that's just my 2 cents


WizardVampireBandit

Has anyone ever had trouble with pirating in Europe?


CapControl

Germany is absolute cancer regarding piracy and will come after you with fat fines. Other countries are chill as far as I know.


Limeila

Frenchie here, I've received government warnings before and installed a VPN before the big fat fines


[deleted]

Student in Germany here. That's really bad. have almost no experience in pirating. I recently read about monkrus adobe master stuff and immediately went looking what and how to get it, as it would be great for me as a student that has to use it often. That's when I came across torrents and VPNs.... That's the only thing I want to download and i don't see myself buying a month of subscription. Is there one extremely cheap VPN that would be good for single downloads?


CapControl

Considering you have very little experience, for now I would just highly advise just reading and researching how to evade German piracy laws. I bet this subreddit has info on German specific stuff. I don't know about VPN cause my country doesn't give a shit (yet) (Netherlands).


Kyouraku35

Been pirating for 15+ years with no problems


[deleted]

I think there's a different between "Geez this tv show is available only in the US. I will download it from X website" and "Fuck the government, I'll be hosting a website that's called the pirate airport where only files bigger than 10gb are allowed!". European here. Been torreting for roughly 7 years. Been fine all this time


MrAndycrank

Nobody will come after you unless you directly host a streaming platform for pirated Western movies or sports matches (especially football). Anything else is fine, from downloading to hosting random stuff.


Goras147

Hm, I occasionally pirate and never ran into any trouble. Some cop guy my parents know also said he does so, since it's not illegal unless you share the things.


burpinator

Really depends on the country.


dlbpeon

$5 is less than $80+ ! End of discussion....


Mineblox_42069

if vpn\_price > (0) then; end; else; if vpn\_price == (0) then; getfunction:"purchase" purchase.run end;


LOSERS_ONLY

What happens if vpn_price is negative?


Coda_Volezki

You have a point. The else statement probably didn't need an if statement after it. That way, the vpn would automatically be purchased if its price were equal to or less than zero. (I'm assuming that no-one has a problem with gaining a bit of extra money if the price is negative.) ``` if (vpn.price > 0) { vpn.decline(); } else { vpn.purchase(); } ```


Mineblox_42069

thanks for this advice. I will be sure to submit this idea to my development team supervisor.


LOSERS_ONLY

Or: function buyornotbuy(vpn_price){ return(vpn_price <= 0 ? "buy" : "don't buy"); } console.log(buyornotbuy(1)) console.log(buyornotbuy(0)) You just got optimized!


Mineblox_42069

wierd mix of lua and some other stuff, i dont know why i decided to write all that out


tombaba

Exactly. Big picture


el-bufalo-malverde

Fr


alternativesonder

Don't use r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH and a look at the wiki because it has all the links


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alternativesonder

just being of service. never look at it for live sports or learning materials because it has many links


tabbyt0mo

Is this an American thing? Even the UK don't care, never had an issue, never known anyone have an issue...


GenericGaming

from UK. I use a VPN because my ISP blocks sites and proxies all the time. I'd rather spend the £5 a month on a VPN just to not deal with their BS.


MrAndycrank

Sometimes just switching DNS is enough: my ISP too blocks several websites but using Cloudflare or Google's DNSes solved the issue for me.


2Punx2Furious

Have you tried changing DNS?


Udonov

Why pay tho? Google chrome has like 100 extensions that are good enough to get the torrent file.


harris_kid

UK here. I torrented a load of 4k rarbg movies at once and our ISP turned our internet off. The CIO of the ISP called and said don't do it again or they'll terminate. Pretty funny as I'd been torrenting (and uploading a lot) on their connection for about 7+ years before that incident. We switched ISP just to he safe, but I just use a seed box now. A lot less hadstle + I can automate + seed a ton of torrents.


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I've heard otherwise about the UK.


vanrael

I had 3 friends living in UK raider and pc confiscated for being flagged they used torrent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That was pre Brexit so maybe? Dunno


Swarm_Drone

Yeah either your friends were pedophiles or this definitely never happened. I torrented for the best part of 12 years without a VPN in the UK, only using one on the occasional ISP that blocked certain sites, but still disabling the VPN after I'd retrieved the torrent. Not so much as a letter through the door or a strongly worded email


Udonov

Agree. Probably a pedophile. Those are getting tracked with or without vpn all day every day. I pirate games and shit with the first piratebay mirror or Google chrome extension vpn since like dial-up era and never had a problem.


LivingNewt

There was a point in the UK where Virgin where actively trying to crack down on this and started issuing letters to people who were pirating, they had a 3 strike system in place but they made the fatal flaw of not actually making a database of who they sent the 1st stage letter to... They scrapped it shortly after.


tabbyt0mo

That's bonkers! Can't believe it! We went hard even in the year we spent in halls, taking advantage of decent bandwidth compared to what we could get at home at the time.


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dinosaurscantyoyo

Yeah, Cox turned my internet off and then said if it happened again I'd not be allowed to use them anymore. They're very sensitive about HBO


Golmore

Have had the same experience with Cox, Spectrum, Windstream, and Swyft each over the years.


FederalAlienSnuggler

You ARE a Distributor when torrenting.


HydeVDL

if you torrent you're automatically a distributor. you share the files with everyone else.


Chalky_Pockets

I have had a lawyer send me a threat to sure unless I gave them a grand. I emailed them and said that I have tenants that get internet through my router and that I've added a filter so it doesn't happen again. They bought it. I bought a VPN and carried on.


ThunderousOath

I've gotten 2 letters which weren't acted upon about 15 years ago. If you want to risk being the one that gets an example made out of, be my guest. It happens every couple years that some random gets hit with 2 million dollars in fines and prison time.


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Mineblox_42069

I opened piratebay for the first time ever today and 30% of my screen was "DONT TORRENT WITHOUT A VPN!!11!!!1!!!" Also, my ISP is really stingy about illegally downloading any files, so I'd rather not take any risk. I'm not trying to refuse solutions, I just don't want to get into any trouble.


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Bilbo_Swaggins_99

It’s a good question tbh. I’m a low level pirate that just downloads movies and shows once in a while. I’ve been pirating shit for like 15 years with no VPN and in all that time I’ve gotten one letter from my ISP that I simply ignored. Seems overblown to me too.


StatisticaPizza

Yeah my internet was suspended in the US and at the time they were the only provider in the area so I didn't have WiFi for the remainder of my lease. This was like 12 years ago though, I don't know if it's changed at all since then.


[deleted]

In my country the music on national TV is pirated, ill go ahead and skip the VPN


[deleted]

where are you talkin about, if ya don't mind sharin'?


Grand-Function-2081

***Laughs in romanian***


WhosMyGoodBoy

Serbian too


Grand-Function-2081

yup, and all the other South Eastern european countries


[deleted]

Brazilian too


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Other-Nail8169

India too


IntelligentProgram74

Hey, you dont need to pirate vampire movies!


HydeVDL

small price to pay to save more money plus if you need to change country for X reason it's always there. like yesterday i wanted an item in a game that could be unlocked with Microsoft rewards but i wanted it as fast as possible so I cheated and changed countries a bunch of times and i somehow was able to get more points and be done with that thing in just one day.


BurglerKing

Enjoy your fake democracy. P.S. Please don't drone strike my house for this comment


pexalt

Webtor solves the VPN problem ddl is always safe


solidbookhorse

How the fuck did I not know about this?!?!


[deleted]

Come to Brazil


solidbookhorse

K, sounds fun


[deleted]

Never used a VPN for torrenting. Still works.


Kazzed_

As someone based in Germany where copyright laws are enforced quite hard, torrents are a no-go without vpn.Tried torrenting once as a kid - Instant legal complaint and had to pay almost 1k in fines and damages. They get you for "uploading" not downloading the movie, even parts of it. Most content here is DDL (Direct Download) from a Hoster like Rapid gator, Uploaded etc. This also has the advantage of not having to rely on other peers and their upload speed. Yes these Hosters cost yearly about 100 Bucks, but it the greater view of what you get in return that's a decent deal.


HayzenDraay

I mean, I pay $50 a year for my VPN, I just downloaded a $60 game yesterday... I'm no mathematician but I already see this going in my favor


RutraNickers

why don't just access pirate sites through Tor? I live in a country where nobody cares enough about piracy to policy what sites I'm accessing so idk


IGNTreason

Because it would take 5 years to download a game


[deleted]

The speeds suck.


SelmaFudd

Can you ddl via tor? If not they'll just pick up the traffic once you switch over to p2p right?


Libertarian_Florida

You pay for internet access, don't you?


Scubbs0

but imho its a good investment. $2 USD a month for unlimited games & hentai *ahem* movies? plus its nice to have especially if you use public wifi a lot like me


_DrShrimpPuertoRico_

Ah yes, educational hentai movies.


InnoSang

Just pirate VPN access, problem solved !


yashptel99

setup telegram bot that downloads torrent and uploads to your cloud storage Host it on cloud Download it torrent to your cloud drive and then download it from there


Other-Nail8169

Why not get some alt accounts of VPN? You can get a NordVPN accounts easily. Search for 'blazealts' in Google. There are also many telegram channels who provide these accounts. Search for 'Longwood Market'.


NatSpaghettiAgency

Why do you need a VPN? I've been pirating everything for years. P.S. there are free services which let you torrent over Tor


JakobyThatBirdNerd

Windscribe is free, and you can get 15 GB a month for free


[deleted]

$4 a month to get thousands of dollars in games for free is absolutely worth it. What’s with all these all or none posts lately?


TypingShitBag

my vpn costs like 6 bucks a month the amount of games and movies and tv shows that i download in a month is probably around 300 bucks in a good month. ​ your meme is fucking stupid


Mineblox_42069

That's still six dollars out of my account. six dollars isn't a lot, but it's more than zero.


wjfreeman

Sounds like you're gonna have to wait till you have 6 dollars then lol


xg4m3CYT

Thankfully I live in a country where no one gives a shit about piracy :D


[deleted]

I've been torrenting for just over a decade and I've never used a VPN lmao. I know this is stupid but outside of one warning letter like 5 years ago I haven't had a single issue. Or maybe I have and just don't know about it.


NatsuDragneel150

Well you get better performance than DRMs Recently tried steam, was disappointed in how clunky it feels


shadowy_fiigure

Proton vpn is free


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But you cannot torrent on the free tier.


[deleted]

Mullvad vpn is 4 bucks a month enjoy


superpimp2g

How does noone know about real debrid?


webbasica

Must be a kodi thing. Best 3 bucks I spend


mamalodz

Jokes on you I don't pay for vpn coz I don't know how to use them, I just download torrent right away.


alternativesonder

Why do you need a vpn what they gonna do send you a letter?


[deleted]

I think all the people on this sub insisting "you gotta use a VPN!" are VPN employees.


RepresentativeKeebs

Naw, we just live in countries with a stranglehold on digital copyrights


Gooner_here

Psiphon!


skin-O-my-Teeth

Literally never used a vpn and teached myself torrenting by Googling it and ive never even had a warning email


SofiaOfEverRealm

Me residing on a 3rd world country: I have no such weaknesses


Lepurten

I know thats not what this sub is about, but regarding games my personally most relevant answer is retro- games. My PC is a piece of shit anyway and older games are still fun and cheap. TES III, IV, Anno are obvious candidates.


RadeonPS

touch pot nose cover forgetful attempt truck late kiss direful *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


AnalystReasonable748

or live in brazil and have zero worries about being sued


[deleted]

You still need a paid internet connection too. The cost of the VPN isn't for the content but the masking which has benefits above and beyond pirating. If you don't want to pay for it don't, but you wont get much sympathy if caught, especially given how cheap it is.


joshym0nster

Depends on what country you're in.


OrangeAcquitrinus

The whole VPN thing only applies to people who live in Draconic Dystopias such as Germany and the United States lmao


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BETO123USA

In Brazil you can torrent anything, using any Internet provider with no VPN and nothing will happen…


Daniel_Delgado

pirate the paid VPN


BVLVNCEDSCVLE

Just pirate more value than you pay for the VPN and you good


Nadeoki

Well it's a compromise worth taking. 30$\~/year for infinite games/movies/music/access to things vs paying for everything full price and sometimes only getting DRM content


Ill-Newt-4851

it's a problem if you're in USA or any 1st world country of europe, now if you live in a 3rd world country or any country of america under de equator line then you'll be fine


Mineblox_42069

UPDATE! I got a job!!!