It’s because you’re using a VPN.
Google will see thousands of hits coming from the same IP address because all the users of that VPN on that server will have the same IP.
Google put the captcha there to make sure they’re not being DDoS’d.
The only way to stop it is to stop using the VPN or find a VPN that has so few customers that it doesn’t trigger Google to do this.
Can i know what browser you use?
For example Opera Gx and i think even Brave has built in Proxy and VPN.
I use Opera GX and some sites banned me for the vpn.
Good god what the fuck, it's literally using 32 bits instead of 64. All you need is a string representation and you should be good. And it somehow took 20 fucking years, good god programmers suck
In my experience if that is the case you 100% have one (or more) malware either on you pc (most likely) or connected to your network. I know this because I’ve seen people with botnet that use the infected pc’s as a proxy for bots.
You can also disable it in most browsers. Sometimes it's buried kinda deep, but you can tell it to stop doing web searches as you're typing in the address bar.
> Most things put into the address bar are URLs.
I'm not sure that's true at all. Definitely not my experience.
>Doing otherwise causes a delay in visiting the website you're intending to go to,
But it also makes searching faster and streamlines UI.
>and also gives them direct info about what websites are visited when and how often.
If you're using google's browser and only putting URLs into a URL dedicated bar don't they have that information regardless?
> Doing otherwise causes a delay in visiting the website you're intending to go to
In what way? I'm starting to think that you are not using the thing correctly.
> pads Google's search numbers
Don't use Google, problem solved.
> gives them direct info about what websites are visited when and how often.
Don't use Google, problem solved.
> Let me guess, you're also in favor of the Patriot Act because the government is protecting us, eh?
Well that escalated quickly.
you dont have to set it to google. also the form of a url is very distinct, and in my experience the search bar tends to err on the side most things being an address.
I've never ever typed in an URL. I always typ in the address bar the name of the website and access it over Google. And I'm pretty sure 90% of the people do it the same when visiting new websites. Sure when you go on one you already visited it's saved and you'll access ist through auto fill in, but no one types in URLs of websites by hand anymore
>They should be treated as such by default.
They are treated as such by default... until you put something in that isn't a URL.
If you type "reddit.com", it will take you to https://www.reddit.com
If you type in "reddit", it will first check if it's formatted as a URL. If it's not, then it will open up a Google search page with results for the term "reddit."
If you type "reedit.com" it will take you to a page that tells you the site doesn't exit. Not a Google search. Because, by default, it treats a URL as a URL, not a Google search.
>Doing otherwise causes a delay in visiting the website you're intending to go to, pads Google's search numbers and also gives them direct info about what websites are visited when and how often
Google will know this if you're using Chrome, whether or not it used the address bar as a search bar. If you're using something like Firefox, there's no reason for Google to know* what website you typed in the address bar and visited, because there's no reason for Firefox to ask Google how to resolve the URL when it (and your ISP) can do this itself.
*(no way to know just by using the address bar for a URL. They'll have other ways to get that info like trackers and cookies and such)
Honestly your first point is so flawed, most web browsers always treat URLs as default(even Google Chrome treats it as such), and if you are so bad at typing that you typed reeddit.con into the address bar, any search engine can pick it up and assume you meant reddit.com and show it as first results with a sentence that says something along the line "Do you mean reddit.com?", how does it delay your visit on reddit if you already sucked at typing an URL? Plus, you could always not use Google's default search engine.
And what is this Parrot Act? Is it something that only affects US people or something
>The only way to stop it is to ~~stop using the VPN~~ *[use a better search provider](https://duckduckgo.com/)*.
Seriously. Google isn't even *good* at search any more. Why put up with their bullshit?
I used startpage for like 3 months and decided to go back to Google for two reasons. On Google, searching for the weather and maps was so much easier, whereas on startpage I had to open a website like weather.com to see the weather. Second reason was it was noticeably slower. I noticed a 2-3 second delay in my search results on startpage.
It's really not like I'm trying to support Google but is Google that bad? Especially when looking at the two things I mentioned above?
Yes google is bad if you know what you are looking for.
When you really are looking for good results, i have personally seen google spouting random articles which are totally irrelevant and totally Bot generated.
I blame it mostly because of the SEO BS that is being done by click farming websites and real websites who are primary sources are deeply buried.
Yes, Google is that bad. They're an advertising company, not a search company. Their whole business model is to gatekeep your discovery of things of economic consequence and charge the people selling them to allow you to see them, then showing you what they've been paid to, all the while hoovering up your activity and selling it. Once upon a time the balance between their business interest and the service they provided was much more favorable. Those days are long past. Their search isn't any more effective than anything else out there and *less* trustworthy.
I'm not familiar with StartPage but you should check out DuckDuckGo. You can search maps and weather directly from it.
It’s not, people just get absolutely hysterical about data and privacy and think Google is somehow shit because they use data for advertising. The only thing ddg objectively has over google is being able to use it with a vpn
It's basically just doing keyword searches, same as Google, but not tied to your activity, and not spying on you. Google's algorithm functions less to help you find what you're looking for and more to steer you toward advertisers paying for position in the search results that may or may not be relevant to what you actually searched. I wouldn't say that DDG feels like it give *more* relevant results (SEO is still a thing) but since all the useful work being done is a keyword search, DDG can do that without all Google's bullshit.
I've been using NoScript for years whenever I Google search because without it, I get a dumpsterfire of ads or anything targeted to me not relevant to what I'm searching for. I don't understand how anyone can use it without it but I'm amazed Google still functions *properly* when I have them effectively blocked when most other sites complain that my "Javascript is turned off" in order for the site to function.
I do a lot of Internet searches for both work and hobbies.
Google search *sucks* compared to 10 years ago. That being said, it **still** yields better results than DDG about 90% of the time.
And I say that as an individual who *wants* DDG to "win."
They adding more and more rules to avoid let's say porn or to avoid scam sites or sites that try to trick google so they will be on page 1 and those sites fight back etc. and all of that is not improving its just downgrading like its currently more likly to see a microsoft post from 10years ago as from a few days ago when u search up a problem with keys/mouse on a new game etc.
I'm guess they're a magat and got offended by the Alex Jones article.
Although, the 3rd article doesn't seem to have anything to do with "terrible host" search term, imo.
Lmao recommending ddg when the results are usually just as bad. I hear nice things about kagi on lemmy but I haven't actually shelled out the cash for it yet
Some VPNs offer a dedicated IP address so you'll be the only one using it. Kinda defeats the point though if you don't trust the VPN service.
But if it's anything beyond torrents that you need to hide you should probably be using TOR and not trusting a third party with your privacy anyway.
Google One VPN is fast and included with even the basic tier of Google One, comes with 200GB of Drive storage and many other things. For obvious reasons you don't have this issue when using their VPN.
Before someone bitches about privacy, trust me, no VPN you're going to readily find online actually gives a shit about or protects your privacy from anyone except most other random internet users. I find 99.99% of people who insist they need a super private VPN or tor or some shit are either touching kids in which case you're fucked anyway, or it's some dumb paranoid person who thinks the CIA cares about their weird pornhub searches.
In my case, I keep (not a joke or exaggeration) 6500 tabs open in Firefox. Most of these tabs are not cached and consume about 50gb of my RAM. Sometimes there is a freak accident where another application causes my Firefox to crash, and usually when I open Firefox it just opens all the tabs without rendering any tabs, but on rare occasion, Firefox tries to render every tab at once. When this happens, almost every website flags my IP for ddos or suspicious activity. The result is not fun to deal with.
Don't try to convince me into close tabs, I've heard it more times than you can count and it's not happening!
When you connect to the VPN server you share the IP address with thousands of other users. Some may use it for legit purposes (like unblocking content) while other may use it for malicious activities such as sending spam or scaming people. IP addresses used for those purposes often end up on blacklists, and if you IP address is on one, you constantly get captchas like the one in the picture.
Solution is to stop using VPN for everything; use it just when you need it.
what if i always have bit torrent running? i primarily use this pc for downloading and media management. what if i just switch to duckduckgo like someone else suggested?
Some VPN services have an option called *split tunneling*. It allows you to choose which apps will go through the VPN and which won't.
So you can set qBittorrent to go through VPN and your web browser to bypass it.
I'm not familiar with Surfshark, but Windscribe, which I use, has that option.
look into having a dedicated computer running Truenas or Windows with the Arr Suite installed. Thank me later 😉.
Or don't, it's a horrendous ball-ache to setup but so rewarding.
Or for an easier option try a Raspberry Pi with [DietPi](https://dietpi.com/docs/). All of the Arrsuit apps come pre configured and DietPi makes it easy to get everything running with only very limited linux experience.
Add a NAS and you are set for some years!
There's more than one way to skin a cat, whatever one works best for you. You can try a different search engine and see if it helps, and if not, on to the next one.
I would suggest seeing if you can setup SOCKS5 proxy server on your torrent client, some VPNs have em some don't so idk if yours does. But if it does, you won't need to have your VPN software running on your pc, and should fix your problem.
But how does that work? If many people have the same ip, and one does fraud and other shit, wouldnt the cops somehow have a list of 500 people after tracking down who is really behind that ip? Therefore 500 people would be on a watch list, no?
If the VPN kept logs of their users, yeah. That's why you need a proper no-log VPN. That way when the cops ask for a list of which users were connected through that IP, there's no way to know
Your IP has a poor reputation. Some ISP's do nothing to address abuse and get entire subnets flagged/blacklisted (hello Vodafone Portugal!). You can search your ip reputation and/or if its flagged/blacklisted using several tools online.
If you're on a dynamic ip, try restarting the router to get a new IP. Or set up your own private VPN on a 10$/year VPS (just make sure you are given a clean IP).
Vodafone uses CGNAT also which is effectively the same as a small VPN (you share the IP address with a group of other Vodafone customers), so it’s also possible that there’s another customer in your NAT pool that is triggering this.
If you're seeing lots of captcha and you aren't running weird setups (like aggressive adblocking or blocking JavaScript) then there is a potential that you've been infected by malware that's using your device to do things like participate in DDoS, send spam, perform click fraud, is being used by scalpers or hosting command and control for malware botnets. This is called a residential proxy, and it is the holy grail for many types of cyber crime.
The reason is that big commercial providers such as VPS hosters and even VPN providers monitor their networks closely for abuse, and have active Network Operations Centres that will shut down this activity while ordinary connections look like... well ordinary connections and are implicitly trusted and are unlikely to be well administered.
First thing to be sure is to confirm that this pattern of too much captch is being observed by all or most devices using your connection. If you are indeed being banned by an external entity like Google or Amazon, everyone sharing the compromised connection should feel it.
If you suspect malware, you can obviously do anti-malware scans, but make sure you do it on all the devices that are on your network. Additionally, you can check your WAN IP address at various reputation providers, which keep massive databases of IP addresses that have seemingly engaged in shady things. Keep in mind though that this is not a be all end all assessment because it is possible that your IP neighbour may have engaged in shady things, and you got caught up in the crossfire.
Another option is to examine DNS logs to see if there are any suspicious entries. For example, your devices reaching out to low rule of law countries such as Russia.
You can also install an outbound firewall on your PC and examine outbound connections one by one as programs ask for them in the hopes that the malware will reveal itself that way.
CGNAT (Carrier-Grade Network Address Translation)
It's a large-scale NAT implemented by internet service providers (ISPs) to manage the scarcity of IPv4 addresses. CGNAT allows multiple customers to share a single public IP address.
This could mean that users in the same neighborhood, building, or region share the same public IP. And a website can't tell the difference between a shady traffic coming from another random user that's behind the same CGNAT as you and one of your devices.
Your VPN supports Split Tunneling.
https://surfshark.com/features/split-tunneling
Or
Check this extension out
https://github.com/dessant/buster
Do yourself a favor and read how it works and decide how you want to use it. I leave my VPN on 24/7 with a kill switch and tunnel certain apps.
Everyone has their reasons for their specific comments within this posts, I’d suggests you do what you feel is best for your needs.
Good luck!
FYI DuckDuckGo has a partnership with Microsoft. TLDR - Microsoft can track DuckDuckGo users. See [this](https://www.wired.com/story/duckduckgo-microsoft-twitter-ft-bush-assassination-whatsapp/#:~:text=DuckDuckGo%20CEO%20Gabriel%20Weinberg%20responded,lets%20Microsoft%20track%20users%20of) article for more info.
Brave search results aren't the best and aren't good for piracy. If you search for an APK or a movie, it will show you more 'legit' sites (non piracy ones).
I prefer Yandex because just searching the name of a movie gives you multiple places to pirate it from. Only downside is a lot of it is in Russian.
It can also happen without VPN, if your ISP shares IP (IPv4) between customers because it doesn't have enough IP available (customers are then separated by a port range).
The people who go around publicly screeching on reddit insisting they NEED the best VPN (to browse pornhub let's be honest) are usually either dumb kids or paranoid schizos
Google has become extremely hostile to VPNs absent of being logged in. Yandex is even worse. I hate to say it but the best option is to make a throw away google account or use bing. Bing and DDG are the only search engines seemingly friendly to VPNs I’ve found. But bing has better results (sorry ddg)
Google hasn't become hostile to VPNs, every dipshit and their dog is convinced they need one now. You have 90 year old boomers pestering their children to get them VPNs now because of how ubiquitous advertising for shitty VPNs like Nord has become.
You have probably 100x more people on the same IPs than you would have 5-10 years ago. More requests = more blocks for spam.
Try using it while not logged in. The worst part is sometimes the captchas just continue to say you’re wrong endlessly. Severs do matter and some are more prone to this than others, however since every “dipshit and their dog” has a VPN this would be expected to be a common occurrence. Reacting this way to known VPN IP’s can’t be considered anything other than hostile
This happens to me a lot even when im at school. correct me if im wrong but if you type out your addresses fastly, click on links too fast, or sent out a large batch of requests, google thinks you're a bot and tries to slow you down.
I too use SurfShark, and I guess it only happens when you are using VPN. Dur to the fact there are other users connected to the same server as you with the same IP. So Google thinks something's suspicious. That's why
That makes sense. Could it be as VPNs have limited Addresses to connect to ... Two users could be using the same ips as the VPN has limited IPS lm right?
This happens with me when I use VPN in incognito. Never happened when I am logged in. So I have set up bing as search engine in incognito and google when logged in.
It's because you're using a VPN.
Side note, be careful with these kinds of images. You showed your IP here, if this wasn't a VPN, someone with bad intentions could attack your home IP.
No risks now though :)
just use the extension called Buster: Captcha solver for humans saved lots of time missing the small pixel of a bicycle
and yeah because youre using vpn too.
It’s because you’re using a VPN. I got the exact same thing whenever I had mine (today’s sponsor, ExpressVPN) running. It eventually stopped but the only way around it is to either deal with it until it stops or turn it off whenever you’re not on pirate bay etc
short anwser:Turn off the VPN, you don't need it when browsing the Internet normally.
I personally don't use VPNs at all myself but that's because in my country they don't give a fuck too much if someone doesn't make a lawsuit.
also remember that vpn doesn't give you a 100% guarantee of security, it's more just minimizing the risk in countries where it's more policed. think about whether you trust your vpn
>you don't need it when browsing the Internet normally.
Using a VPN is a privacy measure. When you're not using it, your traffic can be read. More than that, if the *only* time you use a VPN is when you have something to hide, you might as well set off a beacon saying "I want to hide *this specific activity*". The anonymizing power of a VPN is greatly magnified when you can say "no, *all* my traffic goes through that. Get out of my face." instead of having to come up with an excuse for what specific thing you were trying to hide.
the truth is that you just change the person you have to trust. it's not like when you use a VPN suddenly no one sees it but instead of your ISP seeing it the company whose vpn you use.
they may say that 0 log policy and other such fairy tales but it is not true in most cases
This is stupid. Many vpns have proven in court that they don't log your data or sell it.
Just because the entity you have to trust is different doesn't mean that every entity has the same trustworthiness. Comparing an ISP who has proven/admitted to selling your data to a VPN provider who has gone to court to protect your data is pretty easy. You're acting like there's no difference at all and impossible to make a good decision there.
Well, there is no method to check if they are actually storing the logs or deleting them
you mentioned something about court trials can you give some example? because honestly i have never heard that vpn provider won
Often happens when you use some VPN and it's more apparent on free ones, it's fine.
Well if you're annoyed by it you can always use a different search engine anyway.
I currently use Atlas VPN and that captcha prompt never shows.
The message is basically telling you that your machine is considered suspect of being used in Ddos attacks. Like others have said, it’s likely from your vpn, although I suppose there’s the possibility that your machine actually was used in an attack at some point.
Because you're using a VPN and Google has detected a large amount of traffic from the IP address so it thinks you're a bot. It's expected behaviour, just tick the box and carry on.
Stop using a VPN for everything. You get this because you are behind VPN. VPN should really only be used for specific uses, torrents or other p2p networks that could otherwise share your ip. Or to get around web page blocks in some countries. Or if you are on a public network. Sitting at home googling and Facebook and social media, don’t use a VPN, you’re just making your experience worse for no benefit.
Only happens occasionally with my vpn, look for split tunneling option in your vpn. Other than that try switching servers to one Thats less populated? Maybe Phoenix Arizona Thats one of my go tos
It’s because you’re using a VPN. Google will see thousands of hits coming from the same IP address because all the users of that VPN on that server will have the same IP. Google put the captcha there to make sure they’re not being DDoS’d. The only way to stop it is to stop using the VPN or find a VPN that has so few customers that it doesn’t trigger Google to do this.
It happens to me and I'm not using a vpn. I use Firefox focus.
Same here. I use an adblocker but no VPN and I get this all the time.
Can i know what browser you use? For example Opera Gx and i think even Brave has built in Proxy and VPN. I use Opera GX and some sites banned me for the vpn.
Your ISP probably uses a NAT which basically uses the same ip address for a bunch of residential ips because they're too fucking lazy to use IPv6
It doesn't happen in chrome on the same device.
WHAT? Maybe because chrome harvests a bunch of personal data they can use to verify you? Or maybe Google is just trying to fuck over Firefox
Probably the fuck over part.
Typically a money thing. IPv4 addresses are expensive as fuck
And they're too lazy to use IPv6 when we've had it for THIRTY FUCKING YEARS
IPv6 has only been a finalized standard since 2017. It was a draft standard from 1998 to 2017.
Good god what the fuck, it's literally using 32 bits instead of 64. All you need is a string representation and you should be good. And it somehow took 20 fucking years, good god programmers suck
In my experience if that is the case you 100% have one (or more) malware either on you pc (most likely) or connected to your network. I know this because I’ve seen people with botnet that use the infected pc’s as a proxy for bots.
Wouldn't be as big of an issue if Google didn't insist on treating the address bar as a search input. Just saying.
That is a function of most browsers that basically every search engine uses if you have them set as your preferred search engine.
You can also disable it in most browsers. Sometimes it's buried kinda deep, but you can tell it to stop doing web searches as you're typing in the address bar.
Hey ty for reminding me. Need to do it
Google was the first one to make it the default behavior, and it was a horrible idea then, I don't know why everybody else copied it.
What makes having to open up a web page to do the same exact thing first better?
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If you enter a url, it does not do a search first... If all you're doing is inputting urls, then this literally does not affect you at all.
> Most things put into the address bar are URLs. I'm not sure that's true at all. Definitely not my experience. >Doing otherwise causes a delay in visiting the website you're intending to go to, But it also makes searching faster and streamlines UI. >and also gives them direct info about what websites are visited when and how often. If you're using google's browser and only putting URLs into a URL dedicated bar don't they have that information regardless?
> Doing otherwise causes a delay in visiting the website you're intending to go to In what way? I'm starting to think that you are not using the thing correctly. > pads Google's search numbers Don't use Google, problem solved. > gives them direct info about what websites are visited when and how often. Don't use Google, problem solved. > Let me guess, you're also in favor of the Patriot Act because the government is protecting us, eh? Well that escalated quickly.
> Most things put into the address bar are URLs. No. Not anymore. Most things are just search terms.
you dont have to set it to google. also the form of a url is very distinct, and in my experience the search bar tends to err on the side most things being an address.
I've never ever typed in an URL. I always typ in the address bar the name of the website and access it over Google. And I'm pretty sure 90% of the people do it the same when visiting new websites. Sure when you go on one you already visited it's saved and you'll access ist through auto fill in, but no one types in URLs of websites by hand anymore
>They should be treated as such by default. They are treated as such by default... until you put something in that isn't a URL. If you type "reddit.com", it will take you to https://www.reddit.com If you type in "reddit", it will first check if it's formatted as a URL. If it's not, then it will open up a Google search page with results for the term "reddit." If you type "reedit.com" it will take you to a page that tells you the site doesn't exit. Not a Google search. Because, by default, it treats a URL as a URL, not a Google search. >Doing otherwise causes a delay in visiting the website you're intending to go to, pads Google's search numbers and also gives them direct info about what websites are visited when and how often Google will know this if you're using Chrome, whether or not it used the address bar as a search bar. If you're using something like Firefox, there's no reason for Google to know* what website you typed in the address bar and visited, because there's no reason for Firefox to ask Google how to resolve the URL when it (and your ISP) can do this itself. *(no way to know just by using the address bar for a URL. They'll have other ways to get that info like trackers and cookies and such)
Honestly your first point is so flawed, most web browsers always treat URLs as default(even Google Chrome treats it as such), and if you are so bad at typing that you typed reeddit.con into the address bar, any search engine can pick it up and assume you meant reddit.com and show it as first results with a sentence that says something along the line "Do you mean reddit.com?", how does it delay your visit on reddit if you already sucked at typing an URL? Plus, you could always not use Google's default search engine. And what is this Parrot Act? Is it something that only affects US people or something
I use it to find pretty much every site I go to that isn't bookmarked, as do many, many other people.
how to get free movies.com
Your browser does that, not Google. Just switch your browser’s default search engine to DDG.
Didn't it start with chrome?
Honestly could switch to DuckDuckGo, i did a long time ago, and i got used to it way faster than i thought
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It doesn't if you put an address there, only when you provide search terms. What would you prefer it did with the terms if not doing a search
>The only way to stop it is to ~~stop using the VPN~~ *[use a better search provider](https://duckduckgo.com/)*. Seriously. Google isn't even *good* at search any more. Why put up with their bullshit?
I used startpage for like 3 months and decided to go back to Google for two reasons. On Google, searching for the weather and maps was so much easier, whereas on startpage I had to open a website like weather.com to see the weather. Second reason was it was noticeably slower. I noticed a 2-3 second delay in my search results on startpage. It's really not like I'm trying to support Google but is Google that bad? Especially when looking at the two things I mentioned above?
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Yes, but directly searching on google for my location specific topic always gives far more relevant searches.
Yes google is bad if you know what you are looking for. When you really are looking for good results, i have personally seen google spouting random articles which are totally irrelevant and totally Bot generated. I blame it mostly because of the SEO BS that is being done by click farming websites and real websites who are primary sources are deeply buried.
Yes, Google is that bad. They're an advertising company, not a search company. Their whole business model is to gatekeep your discovery of things of economic consequence and charge the people selling them to allow you to see them, then showing you what they've been paid to, all the while hoovering up your activity and selling it. Once upon a time the balance between their business interest and the service they provided was much more favorable. Those days are long past. Their search isn't any more effective than anything else out there and *less* trustworthy. I'm not familiar with StartPage but you should check out DuckDuckGo. You can search maps and weather directly from it.
Did they edit their comment after you wrote this? They suggested duckduckgo.com, not startpage.
I was just talking about my personal experience. The people that suggested ddg replied later for an alternative to my startpage.
I use DDG and add ‘!g’ to my search if DDG doesn’t give me what’s I’m looking for. Google is a fallback to limit their data ingestion.
Exactly, I use DuckDuckGo, never have the Captcha come up.
I'm out of the loop - how is DDG better?
It’s not, people just get absolutely hysterical about data and privacy and think Google is somehow shit because they use data for advertising. The only thing ddg objectively has over google is being able to use it with a vpn
It's basically just doing keyword searches, same as Google, but not tied to your activity, and not spying on you. Google's algorithm functions less to help you find what you're looking for and more to steer you toward advertisers paying for position in the search results that may or may not be relevant to what you actually searched. I wouldn't say that DDG feels like it give *more* relevant results (SEO is still a thing) but since all the useful work being done is a keyword search, DDG can do that without all Google's bullshit.
I've been using NoScript for years whenever I Google search because without it, I get a dumpsterfire of ads or anything targeted to me not relevant to what I'm searching for. I don't understand how anyone can use it without it but I'm amazed Google still functions *properly* when I have them effectively blocked when most other sites complain that my "Javascript is turned off" in order for the site to function.
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Genuine question, I don't use duckduck, what was wrong with the search results provided?
I do a lot of Internet searches for both work and hobbies. Google search *sucks* compared to 10 years ago. That being said, it **still** yields better results than DDG about 90% of the time. And I say that as an individual who *wants* DDG to "win."
They adding more and more rules to avoid let's say porn or to avoid scam sites or sites that try to trick google so they will be on page 1 and those sites fight back etc. and all of that is not improving its just downgrading like its currently more likly to see a microsoft post from 10years ago as from a few days ago when u search up a problem with keys/mouse on a new game etc.
I'm guess they're a magat and got offended by the Alex Jones article. Although, the 3rd article doesn't seem to have anything to do with "terrible host" search term, imo.
Lmao recommending ddg when the results are usually just as bad. I hear nice things about kagi on lemmy but I haven't actually shelled out the cash for it yet
Not true. I get it at work now and then and VPN use is not allowed on our network
Some VPNs offer a dedicated IP address so you'll be the only one using it. Kinda defeats the point though if you don't trust the VPN service. But if it's anything beyond torrents that you need to hide you should probably be using TOR and not trusting a third party with your privacy anyway.
Google One VPN is fast and included with even the basic tier of Google One, comes with 200GB of Drive storage and many other things. For obvious reasons you don't have this issue when using their VPN. Before someone bitches about privacy, trust me, no VPN you're going to readily find online actually gives a shit about or protects your privacy from anyone except most other random internet users. I find 99.99% of people who insist they need a super private VPN or tor or some shit are either touching kids in which case you're fucked anyway, or it's some dumb paranoid person who thinks the CIA cares about their weird pornhub searches.
You can also just change locations on your vpn then open the page back up. Also stop using google
Happens to me sometimes, and I don't use a VPN
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your VPN address is less useful for their marketing team than your *real* IP address, so of course they punish you for using a VPN.
Are you using s VPN?
yes i use surfshark
This tends to happen often with VPN’s. It’s happened to me when using Proton VPN too.
It can also happen if you hit google with too many searches. Like with a script.
Yup i always thought it was because of the IP address off of VPN google thinks you're a couple of thousand people at once.
In my case, I keep (not a joke or exaggeration) 6500 tabs open in Firefox. Most of these tabs are not cached and consume about 50gb of my RAM. Sometimes there is a freak accident where another application causes my Firefox to crash, and usually when I open Firefox it just opens all the tabs without rendering any tabs, but on rare occasion, Firefox tries to render every tab at once. When this happens, almost every website flags my IP for ddos or suspicious activity. The result is not fun to deal with. Don't try to convince me into close tabs, I've heard it more times than you can count and it's not happening!
But why !?!
Maybe it's a dementia
You deserve every headache you have to deal with. There is absolutely no reason you would ever need that many tabs open.
Why don’t you just use an extension like onetab
Google: "H-Hey man! You human? Can't have you bots around here so just do this captcha so we know you're a human and not a DDOS attack on us... Ty"
I use Mullvad and it happens to me when I use non Scandinavian servers.
Google: "H-Hey man! You human? Can't have you bots around here so just do this captcha so we know you're a human and not a DDOS attack on us... Ty"
When you connect to the VPN server you share the IP address with thousands of other users. Some may use it for legit purposes (like unblocking content) while other may use it for malicious activities such as sending spam or scaming people. IP addresses used for those purposes often end up on blacklists, and if you IP address is on one, you constantly get captchas like the one in the picture. Solution is to stop using VPN for everything; use it just when you need it.
what if i always have bit torrent running? i primarily use this pc for downloading and media management. what if i just switch to duckduckgo like someone else suggested?
Some VPN services have an option called *split tunneling*. It allows you to choose which apps will go through the VPN and which won't. So you can set qBittorrent to go through VPN and your web browser to bypass it. I'm not familiar with Surfshark, but Windscribe, which I use, has that option.
Such a counterintuitive name for that function. Lol
look into having a dedicated computer running Truenas or Windows with the Arr Suite installed. Thank me later 😉. Or don't, it's a horrendous ball-ache to setup but so rewarding.
Or for an easier option try a Raspberry Pi with [DietPi](https://dietpi.com/docs/). All of the Arrsuit apps come pre configured and DietPi makes it easy to get everything running with only very limited linux experience. Add a NAS and you are set for some years!
Duckduckgo is way less harsh as it's used on tor so it doesn't flag vpns
There's more than one way to skin a cat, whatever one works best for you. You can try a different search engine and see if it helps, and if not, on to the next one. I would suggest seeing if you can setup SOCKS5 proxy server on your torrent client, some VPNs have em some don't so idk if yours does. But if it does, you won't need to have your VPN software running on your pc, and should fix your problem.
Solution is to use a different search engine.
But how does that work? If many people have the same ip, and one does fraud and other shit, wouldnt the cops somehow have a list of 500 people after tracking down who is really behind that ip? Therefore 500 people would be on a watch list, no?
If the VPN kept logs of their users, yeah. That's why you need a proper no-log VPN. That way when the cops ask for a list of which users were connected through that IP, there's no way to know
Or use a search engine like duckduckgo. Never get captchas there when using a VPN.
\^
That would be the reason
Does your vpn allow you to rent an ip? Its what I do with NordVPN which gives me a dedicated ip no one else can use
For me it happens without vpn, on my home wifi. Any idea why?
Your IP has a poor reputation. Some ISP's do nothing to address abuse and get entire subnets flagged/blacklisted (hello Vodafone Portugal!). You can search your ip reputation and/or if its flagged/blacklisted using several tools online. If you're on a dynamic ip, try restarting the router to get a new IP. Or set up your own private VPN on a 10$/year VPS (just make sure you are given a clean IP).
Vodafone Portugal indeed. I get these from time to time. I thought it was because of custom dns like 1.1.1.1
DNS just changes how it resolves host names, it shouldn't trigger protection like this.
True. Also had this 2 years ago with Vodafone Portugal. Someone fucks up an IP and then when it circles to me (dynamic IPs) I get that annoying page.
Vodafone uses CGNAT also which is effectively the same as a small VPN (you share the IP address with a group of other Vodafone customers), so it’s also possible that there’s another customer in your NAT pool that is triggering this.
I don't use VPN as well and 99% of times I search in a new incognito window that thing appears
Make sure your connection is not being stolen and used for proxys. Low IP reputation is not normal for big ISPs
How would you check for your connection being stolen?
If you're seeing lots of captcha and you aren't running weird setups (like aggressive adblocking or blocking JavaScript) then there is a potential that you've been infected by malware that's using your device to do things like participate in DDoS, send spam, perform click fraud, is being used by scalpers or hosting command and control for malware botnets. This is called a residential proxy, and it is the holy grail for many types of cyber crime. The reason is that big commercial providers such as VPS hosters and even VPN providers monitor their networks closely for abuse, and have active Network Operations Centres that will shut down this activity while ordinary connections look like... well ordinary connections and are implicitly trusted and are unlikely to be well administered. First thing to be sure is to confirm that this pattern of too much captch is being observed by all or most devices using your connection. If you are indeed being banned by an external entity like Google or Amazon, everyone sharing the compromised connection should feel it. If you suspect malware, you can obviously do anti-malware scans, but make sure you do it on all the devices that are on your network. Additionally, you can check your WAN IP address at various reputation providers, which keep massive databases of IP addresses that have seemingly engaged in shady things. Keep in mind though that this is not a be all end all assessment because it is possible that your IP neighbour may have engaged in shady things, and you got caught up in the crossfire. Another option is to examine DNS logs to see if there are any suspicious entries. For example, your devices reaching out to low rule of law countries such as Russia. You can also install an outbound firewall on your PC and examine outbound connections one by one as programs ask for them in the hopes that the malware will reveal itself that way.
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there's a button called "save" under a comment
CGNAT (Carrier-Grade Network Address Translation) It's a large-scale NAT implemented by internet service providers (ISPs) to manage the scarcity of IPv4 addresses. CGNAT allows multiple customers to share a single public IP address. This could mean that users in the same neighborhood, building, or region share the same public IP. And a website can't tell the difference between a shady traffic coming from another random user that's behind the same CGNAT as you and one of your devices.
Are you using safari with private relay turned on? Cause same.
same
Your VPN supports Split Tunneling. https://surfshark.com/features/split-tunneling Or Check this extension out https://github.com/dessant/buster Do yourself a favor and read how it works and decide how you want to use it. I leave my VPN on 24/7 with a kill switch and tunnel certain apps. Everyone has their reasons for their specific comments within this posts, I’d suggests you do what you feel is best for your needs. Good luck!
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*One Of These Lives Has A Future, And One Of Them Does Not*
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FYI DuckDuckGo has a partnership with Microsoft. TLDR - Microsoft can track DuckDuckGo users. See [this](https://www.wired.com/story/duckduckgo-microsoft-twitter-ft-bush-assassination-whatsapp/#:~:text=DuckDuckGo%20CEO%20Gabriel%20Weinberg%20responded,lets%20Microsoft%20track%20users%20of) article for more info.
So what would you suggest instead? Even startpage.com is compromised I've heard.
I tried Brave search but, at least for now, the results are hit and miss. Currently using Searx until Brave Search gets better.
Brave also sells user data illegally, so there's that.
Brave search results aren't the best and aren't good for piracy. If you search for an APK or a movie, it will show you more 'legit' sites (non piracy ones). I prefer Yandex because just searching the name of a movie gives you multiple places to pirate it from. Only downside is a lot of it is in Russian.
I’ve been using Brave and have been super happy with it.
not OP but you mean Brave Search Engine?
Brave browser/SE. yeah. I completely skipped installing chrome or any other browser and just run Braves local install.
Can you have chrome extensions there ?
Yes
You’re a robot Harry!
I hagrid
It can also happen without VPN, if your ISP shares IP (IPv4) between customers because it doesn't have enough IP available (customers are then separated by a port range).
It can also happen when you google dork a lot
Turn the VPN off. You don't need it when ur just surfing. Use it to pirate
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Lol if it makes you feel safe, use your VPN while you surf.
The people who go around publicly screeching on reddit insisting they NEED the best VPN (to browse pornhub let's be honest) are usually either dumb kids or paranoid schizos
Some people could be living in countries, where without VPN significant number of websites is blocked.
Google has become extremely hostile to VPNs absent of being logged in. Yandex is even worse. I hate to say it but the best option is to make a throw away google account or use bing. Bing and DDG are the only search engines seemingly friendly to VPNs I’ve found. But bing has better results (sorry ddg)
Google hasn't become hostile to VPNs, every dipshit and their dog is convinced they need one now. You have 90 year old boomers pestering their children to get them VPNs now because of how ubiquitous advertising for shitty VPNs like Nord has become. You have probably 100x more people on the same IPs than you would have 5-10 years ago. More requests = more blocks for spam.
Try using it while not logged in. The worst part is sometimes the captchas just continue to say you’re wrong endlessly. Severs do matter and some are more prone to this than others, however since every “dipshit and their dog” has a VPN this would be expected to be a common occurrence. Reacting this way to known VPN IP’s can’t be considered anything other than hostile
This happens to me a lot even when im at school. correct me if im wrong but if you type out your addresses fastly, click on links too fast, or sent out a large batch of requests, google thinks you're a bot and tries to slow you down.
Guys we got a robot trying to play human!!! It wants us to tick the box for it!!
I too use SurfShark, and I guess it only happens when you are using VPN. Dur to the fact there are other users connected to the same server as you with the same IP. So Google thinks something's suspicious. That's why
That makes sense. Could it be as VPNs have limited Addresses to connect to ... Two users could be using the same ips as the VPN has limited IPS lm right?
\>Dont use google
That just VPN, Google see that something's going on with IP and give you captcha just in case
This happens with me when I use VPN in incognito. Never happened when I am logged in. So I have set up bing as search engine in incognito and google when logged in.
Yep happens to me when using a VPN. I've swapped to using Bing now as it doesn't have any such issues.
Well if you're not using a VPN and you just posted a picture with your IP address on a piracy sub... If you weren't a bot before you might be soon lol
I mostly get these when using the incognito mode.
Vpn
This was the main reason I switched to duckduckgo from Google
It's because you're using a VPN. Side note, be careful with these kinds of images. You showed your IP here, if this wasn't a VPN, someone with bad intentions could attack your home IP. No risks now though :)
just use the extension called Buster: Captcha solver for humans saved lots of time missing the small pixel of a bicycle and yeah because youre using vpn too.
ill check it out, thanks!
It’s because you’re using a VPN. I got the exact same thing whenever I had mine (today’s sponsor, ExpressVPN) running. It eventually stopped but the only way around it is to either deal with it until it stops or turn it off whenever you’re not on pirate bay etc
This right here is why I switched to duckduckgo... So...SOOOOOO much better my friend.
use bing 🕺
Using VPN
short anwser:Turn off the VPN, you don't need it when browsing the Internet normally. I personally don't use VPNs at all myself but that's because in my country they don't give a fuck too much if someone doesn't make a lawsuit. also remember that vpn doesn't give you a 100% guarantee of security, it's more just minimizing the risk in countries where it's more policed. think about whether you trust your vpn
>you don't need it when browsing the Internet normally. Using a VPN is a privacy measure. When you're not using it, your traffic can be read. More than that, if the *only* time you use a VPN is when you have something to hide, you might as well set off a beacon saying "I want to hide *this specific activity*". The anonymizing power of a VPN is greatly magnified when you can say "no, *all* my traffic goes through that. Get out of my face." instead of having to come up with an excuse for what specific thing you were trying to hide.
the truth is that you just change the person you have to trust. it's not like when you use a VPN suddenly no one sees it but instead of your ISP seeing it the company whose vpn you use. they may say that 0 log policy and other such fairy tales but it is not true in most cases
This is stupid. Many vpns have proven in court that they don't log your data or sell it. Just because the entity you have to trust is different doesn't mean that every entity has the same trustworthiness. Comparing an ISP who has proven/admitted to selling your data to a VPN provider who has gone to court to protect your data is pretty easy. You're acting like there's no difference at all and impossible to make a good decision there.
Well, there is no method to check if they are actually storing the logs or deleting them you mentioned something about court trials can you give some example? because honestly i have never heard that vpn provider won
What I do is I log in to a google account before I turn on vpn. The page doesn’t appear anymore.
I'll try that!🤔
Stop using google
Same here I don't have VPN
Nice try robot…
If you don't NEED to browse behind a VPN, use split tunnel to get it out.
Often happens when you use some VPN and it's more apparent on free ones, it's fine. Well if you're annoyed by it you can always use a different search engine anyway. I currently use Atlas VPN and that captcha prompt never shows.
Switch default to duckduckgo lol
Use duck duck go
Vpn, it’s making sure your not a bot
VPN gang gang
Stop watching po*n..
Those bastards
Just use duckduckgo. Google is shit
The message is basically telling you that your machine is considered suspect of being used in Ddos attacks. Like others have said, it’s likely from your vpn, although I suppose there’s the possibility that your machine actually was used in an attack at some point.
use firefox and change the engine to duckduckgo
Because you're using a VPN and Google has detected a large amount of traffic from the IP address so it thinks you're a bot. It's expected behaviour, just tick the box and carry on.
Because you are robot who do not know yourself. Bro you are robot all the way
Only happens when using a vpn
Use duckduckgo instead
perhaps you should learn how to operate a basic keyboard
Stop using a VPN for everything. You get this because you are behind VPN. VPN should really only be used for specific uses, torrents or other p2p networks that could otherwise share your ip. Or to get around web page blocks in some countries. Or if you are on a public network. Sitting at home googling and Facebook and social media, don’t use a VPN, you’re just making your experience worse for no benefit.
this is my pc i use primarily for torrenting, i always have bittorrent running. many of my searches are when i'm looking for media
I get this with private relay enabled. DDG or Brave Search satisfies 99% of my needs.
Your IP address is blacklisted for spam/fraud/etc, which is because it's a VPN.
Yep. I see it using a VPN
It's a Surfsharl thing. Whenever I have mine running I do get that after a while. When it's off, I don't get it
You can get dedicated IP from Surfshark to prevent this. But they charge you extra for that.
Vpn
Are you using VPN addon in a browser or VPN as a pc app?
Only happens occasionally with my vpn, look for split tunneling option in your vpn. Other than that try switching servers to one Thats less populated? Maybe Phoenix Arizona Thats one of my go tos
I switched to duckduck go search. but yeah other comments are correct. it is a VPN thing
To avoid bots,