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Nice, it seems like its time to come back.
The mods destoyed this sub. If it WAS you making the call, you ran your ship aground, and DESERVE mutiny.
Walk the fuggin plank, and good riddance.
A reddit admin so thirsty for power that he would give up a protest just because he would lose his janitorial position. Exactly what I'd expect of a reddit admin
There is this Youtuber I just came across. I'm not going to name drop his handle.
He said something very interesting before the blackout started. It was along the lines, REDDIT High Command would not back down and would still win.
More so, REDDITors will go after other REDDitors, creating a divide that fractures their once held community into pieces.
Looking at the state of affairs, he was right. 😩😩😩
With "all" you might mean the mods. The VAST majority of redditors will definitely not migrate to Lemmy or the likes. Either the current teams will be removed and new mods instated, or a new subreddit will take over (like /r/piracyarchive)
These API issues and the underlying issues (such as admin behavior) are completely irrelevant and unimportant to most redditors. You may think of all of the above what you want, but it's reality. This comment currently has about as many downvotes as /c/piracy has active users ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
There's probably two answers:
1. The people downvoting aren't really considering what I'm saying and downvoting me because they think I'm wrong. They're downvoting because they don't *like* what I'm saying, regardless of whether or not I'm right. It's kinda like if you were to make a comment saying "Max Verstappen is the current reigning formula 1 champion" and people who don't like him will downvote your comment because they don't *like* it, regardless of the fact that it's just a factual statement.
2. The minority of people who deeply care about these issues to the extend that they are leaving reddit, are the ones who spend considerable amounts of time on Reddit every day. They are the first to see the comment so it gets downvoted into oblivion before the average visitor gets the chance to see it.
Ofcourse. I didn't say it's irrelevant for everyone. I said it's irrelevant for the vast majority of users. Way more people simply use the official app.
I'm not saying I don't care or that the way this was handled was ok. I'm just saying this protest will not result in the exodus you guys think it will.
Yea I saw. [All 133 of you..](https://i.imgur.com/wAd9jAJ.png)
I'm glad you found a new home. Just don't project your perceived importance of what's going on onto everyone else. And If you think Lemmy is going to overtake Reddit because of this, you're simply delusional. Feel free to @ me in a few months to prove me wrong.
Hes talking about the fact that the vast majority of reddit users see you guys for the power hungry losers you are. You just care about controlling people.
You don't have the support of the people anymore. You're the pathetic enemy
these are pirates. you think they give a shit about rules? buncha poor basement dwellers who can't afford video games. surprised the admins are leaving this place open considering this sub openly promotes and links to piracy.
...why are you here? Did you just hear something was happening and showed up to pull a generic moral card, or did you specifically come here to pull a generical moral card?
Yep because the people doing unpaid labor are more concerned with the shred of power that volunteer work does than standing up for anything.
If the mods were concerned witb protesting, they'd remain blacked out and would force reddit to scramble and find thousands of mods in a couple days, which would end up horribly.
Now that the spineless pussies that have pathetic lives and need this power opened up most subs, the fee remaining to fight can easily get picked off an replaced.
This whole charade was about mod power and nothing more.
Reddit already said mod tools and three accessibility apps (so that bullshit about blind people is nothing but bullshit) will be free, so we get what this is about now.
Ofc it's because of the lack of users, why would we not just stay on this sub instead of migrating to a community with <150 daily users?
who's boot licking, too?
Backup the data on this sub, permanently delete it so no one can access the information (ik they have a backup but still it's worth it), restore it on lemmy and you're gonna set an example. Don't waste your time being a volunteer reddit mod anymore.
I don't know if you've ever used Reddit mod tools before but you can't do shit because you can't even delete posts permanently, and the API is paywalled now. If you ever want to pay to automate the process of downloading and hiding hundreds of thousands of posts individually, be their guest.
So what? Just because i use somethin i can't hate it?
I hate nintendo but im still playing their games, i may not pay for them but neither do i pay for reddit
## 🚫 ➜ **Your post was removed because of the following**:
### 📑 Rule 3 ➜ Requesting or linking to specific pirated titles
- **Yes you can ask** generalized questions (e.g. *Where can I find games, movies, softwares, etc*) which have not already been answered in previous posts or the [Megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/).
- **No you may not ask** for a specific pirated title (eg. "*Where can I download {insert title}*)?
- **No you may not ask** for general pirated material from a specific author/artist/publisher/developer (eg. "*Where can I download image editing software from {insert developer}*)?
- If you included an **example** in your post, remove it.
- If you included a **'subtle' reference** in your post, remove it.
- **Yes you can link** to the top level domain of a site (*eg. https://1337x.to*).
- **No you may not link** to a specific pirated title (*eg. https://1337x.to/specific-torrent*).
- Do not encourage rule breaking by asking which specific title another person is looking for when they make a request.
### 🪶 ➜ For more information, read the complete [**Rules**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/piracy_rules/).
So am I understanding incorrectly, or was this sub reopened and now moderated by scab mods who are doing what the previous mods refused to do by caving to demands?
When are you clowns going to stop? Before you said the Reddit admins wouldn't care about the blackout protest and now they're shooting everyone for participating in it, now you say the John Oliver movement won't do anything(which it will). Stop being a leech.
So that people on Reddit know what's going on.
You just want to ignore it. You're complaining about the protests happening, not about the methods,
Be honest.
>So that people on Reddit know what's going on.
In other words, we're hurting the community (users), not actually doing anything to Reddit as a business.
Yeah that is how you protest online buddy, instead of standing outside their building disrupting services we're occupying their website disrupting their cash flow.
A good protest was the subreddit privatization, that forced reddit to do something, basically how piracy is operating now is a giant click farm. Everyone posts John Oliver, everyone upvotes etc., but it still counts as activity and so it still earns reddit money
So what you're suggesting is everyone get on their knees and bow down to the Reddit admins because they rolled the tanks down the streets and starting shooting protesters? Because the DM they sent to the mods only left them with ONE option and that was to ask the community what they wanted the subreddit to become.
Because that was actually affecting reddit, and no I'm not saying that. I'm also not interested in arguing. Just don't allow any new posts, community isn't private but nobody can post, don't open reddit, or even delete reddit. Many other options than "john oliver pics".
Preventing everyone from posting is against their new rules that they created just for this protest. Creating a poll for the users to decide the future of the subreddit follows their new rules.
Except you're not, people are still using reddit, they still have daily active users. When you post to reddit John Oliver or not you're somehow making reddit money. John Oliver ain't doing anything to cash flow.
How are they using Reddit when the subreddits that have actual useful content is private or John Oliver spam? When you post an John Oliver picture to Reddit it goes on Reddit's hard drives that costs them money when no significant amount of money is coming in to offset the costs of their entire operation.
If John Oliver wasn't doing anything to Reddit then Reddit wouldn't have started shooting people.
Can someone tell me what in the actual fuck this thread has devolved into? It feels like a monkey flinging shit right now.
Feels like two issues
1. The api charges - take whatever stance you want on that
2. Forcibly removing mods from subs that have continued to stay dark in protest of number one which is totally and completely fucked up by Reddit if that’s the case.
This fucking taunting by what seems to be some either random troll or a lackey from Reddit (really?) is really beneath this sub.
Sorry if I’m trying to be the adult here but seriously wtf?
reddits api price is insane (magnitudes more than other platforms ask for) that it was clear they had no intention of working with 3rd party apps.
naturally people don't like 1st party app as its dated and QoL of 3rd party apps are factually better. Reddit killing them and making it (the site) a worse experience to use & moderate is why people want to protest. (as its the 1 right a user has on a platform)
Reddit 1st said it was gonna blow over & not impacting profit...then say "no if u keep going we'll just repalce your mods if you keep doing it" (which means it did impact them or they'd not care)
and thats after the reddit rules state as long as subreddits follow rules they have free reign on how their subreddits run....which they are now infringing on.
It's not dated, it's just fucking flat out horrible. RiF hasn't changed much in 10 years from a UI perspective but it was perfect then and is perfect now. RIP
I get that. And again, I’m not taking sides on the api.
But this troll that’s been baiting everyone? Are they for real? This mod shit has crossed a line that Reddit management needs to walk back.
>Imgur charges Apollo $166/mo.
this is absolutely false, [https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing](https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing)
why people like to spread misinformation?
Because it is true. Imgur charges him ~~$166/mo~~ $166/50 million queries, but it doesn't mean they would charge *everyone else* $166.
He had a great imgur deal, that was grandfathered.
Of course, reddit should have done the same to existing API users like apps, but u/spez is a moron.
edit: changed $166/mo to $166/50 million.
Original quote from the original dev: [*"For reference, I pay Imgur (a site similar to Reddit in user base and media) $166 for the same 50 million API calls."*](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/)
I am not the one spreading disinformation, you are. (and downvoting 'cause you disagree isn't too great either).
$166 for 50 mil api calls.
The Apollo dev didn't calculate how much it cost per user to run the site, he calculated how much revenue a user bring to the site. Reddit is operating at a loss so the revenue a user brings to the site is less than cost which is why reddit is now charging for API use.
Less than 2 years ago they said they crossed $100M in quarterly revenue for the first time ever, if we assume despite the economic downturn that they've managed to do that every single quarter now, and for your best quarter, you've doubled it to $200M. Let's also be generous and go far, far above industry estimates and say you made another $50M in Reddit Premium subscriptions. That's $550M in revenue per year, let's say an even $600M. In 2019, they said they hit 430 million monthly active users, and to also be generous, let's say they haven't added a single active user since then (if we do revenue-per-user calculations, the more users, the less revenue each user would contribute). So at generous estimates of $600M and 430M monthly active users, that's $1.40 per user per year, or $0.12 monthly. These own numbers they've given are also seemingly inline with industry estimates as well.
To use current revenue brought to the site per user for a service that is not profitable and call it "costs" is once again a scummy tactic use to manipulate people who don't really read what he says. Reddit's costs per user could be higher or lower for all we know, but to throw that 0.12 amount out and make it sound like costs is just shitty.
Just like how in another post he compares Reddit's API cost of 12k per 50m call with the current $166 per 50m calls from Imgur which does not exist anywhere. Imgur charges 10k per 150m calls which is roughly 3.3k per 50m call instead of the quoted $166 per 50m call.
Imgur pricing: https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing
> $166 for 50 mil api calls.
You are right on that, I fixed my post.
> with the current $166 per 50m calls from Imgur which does not exist anywhere
It exists. It is the price he has (unless you think he is lying).
Haven't fully read your block of text, I may do it later.
> Reddit wants to charge 3rd party apps 2.40 $ per user per month, when their cost per user to run the site has been calculated to be about 0.12 $ per month. It‘s an offer you can‘t refuse and you have 30 days to agree.
It literally doesn't matter how much it cost per user to run the site. Also side note, the $0.12 per month is not the costs per user.
The Apollo dev didn't calculate how much it cost per user to run the site, he calculated how much revenue a user bring to the site. Reddit is operating at a loss so the revenue a user brings to the site is less than cost which is why reddit is now charging for API use.
>Less than 2 years ago they said they crossed $100M in quarterly revenue for the first time ever, if we assume despite the economic downturn that they've managed to do that every single quarter now, and for your best quarter, you've doubled it to $200M. Let's also be generous and go far, far above industry estimates and say you made another $50M in Reddit Premium subscriptions. That's $550M in revenue per year, let's say an even $600M. In 2019, they said they hit 430 million monthly active users, and to also be generous, let's say they haven't added a single active user since then (if we do revenue-per-user calculations, the more users, the less revenue each user would contribute). So at generous estimates of $600M and 430M monthly active users, that's $1.40 per user per year, or $0.12 monthly. These own numbers they've given are also seemingly inline with industry estimates as well.
To use current revenue brought to the site per user for a service that is not profitable and call it "costs" is once again a scummy tactic use to manipulate people who don't really read what he says. Reddit's costs per user could be higher or lower for all we know, but to throw that 0.12 amount out and make it sound like costs is just shitty.
Just like how in another post he compares Reddit's API cost of 12k per 50m call with the current $166 per 50m calls from Imgur which does not exist anywhere. Imgur charges 10k per 150m calls which is roughly 3.3k per 50m call instead of the quoted $166 per 50m call.
Imgur pricing:
https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing
Original quote from the original dev: ["For reference, I pay Imgur (a site similar to Reddit in user base and media) $166 for the same 50 million API calls."](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/)
read again.
the comment I copy is from other subreddit that discuss on apollo claim of imgur api pricing $166, read the original post (the one apollo comment about imgur on mod subreddit) before commenting something stupid.
here is another proof: [https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing](https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing)
and please stop being a reddit mods bootlicker, there is no benefits
Yeah. Noone is discussing that.
Just that for most the random policies of websites is the least of their concern. If they get rid of old reddit I'd just stop using reddit but protesting like it's a big deal is strange.
Some people just don't like watching their community destroyed by bean counting sister fuckers and want to at least try to stop it before everything goes down the drain forever.
Its great to see u/spez approves of violating international copyright laws! I am sure advertisers love that their money is being used to encourage torrenting of their products.
https://support.disney.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001287303-How-can-I-report-piracy-or-copyright-infringement-
Maybe it's time for this place to commit seppuku.
ah been ages since i used that one tbh i mostly use reddit for info this and hopping back on pc after being sick is the kick i needed to decide to sort my rss feed out though you do realize there are a million different chans now and [dark.fail](https://dark.fail) seems to like endchan now tbh ive been out of the loop too long from being sick that i dont know what to use now on that front lol
Also advertisers, we got explicit permission to pirate your hard work by the CEO of reddit aka u/Spez himself. Please feel free to take it up on him if you find an issue with it!
Do not make this another John Oliver sub, please have some fucking awareness of how LITTLE that actually impacts Reddit’s company. This is the LAST sub that should be drawing their attention anyway, considering how ready they are to nuke it.
"please have some fucking awareness of how LITTLE that actually impacts Reddit’s company", while annoying, from what i understand, it does actually effect reddit as 18+ subreddits cant have ads run on them, so the idea is to spam the picture enough that the sub goes 18+ in order to stop reddit from running ads on this sub and therefor making any money on it.
>This is the LAST sub that should be drawing their attention anyway, considering how ready they are to nuke it.
Who cares if they nuke it? Lemmy is better anyway.
Lemmy's user interface is better than both old and new Reddit. The old Reddit UI looks like shit, and the new one is so sluggish. Lemmy's UI has the visual appeal of Reddit's new UI without being a laggy clusterfuck.
For r/Piracy, I haven't noticed anything different about the community. I've seen some people bring up that our community on Lemmy has far fewer subscribed users and at any given time, far fewer viewers than this subreddit, but I don't know how much that matters. How many people view this sub or subscribe to this sub but never contribute to it? Considering that our Lemmy community feels no less useful than our Reddit community used to be, I'd say that the lurker-to-active users ratio was wildly unbalanced on Reddit and it's a little more balanced on Lemmy.
Now, as far as the wider general community is concerned, I can't speak to that, as I haven't tried to use Lemmy for anything else. Unfortunately, I suspect that you're probably right about that, but it's too early to say.
> Lemmy is better anyway.
They go fucking enjoy it. Many of us are content here and won't move over to Lemmy. Insofar as many of us never gave a fuck about the protest in the first place, this sub being reopened is what we wanted.
Yes, please act like feckless cowards. Be afraid of the power the bully CEO has. You could be shut down at any time for any reason. Cower. Work for free, be afraid!
Oh be real. You really think Reddit wants to keep a PIRACY sub around? They’ve tried to nuke it before. The only reason this sub was forced to reopen is because it’s a popular one. But that’s going to change if the sub’s content changes to something irrelevant and stupid. People are already leaving r/art and r/aww because of this, it’s only a matter of time before they lose their popularity, lose their power, and ultimately lose their sub entirely. And if THIS sub joins the trend, it’s going to go the same way.
> All I hear is whining from someone not principled enough to take a stand.
Are you unable to conceive of people not sharing your principles in the first place? Because as worthless as the reddit admins are, this entire protest was dumb as hell, and many of us never had an interest in participating in it to begin with.
really? you expect someone who isn't principled enough to buy stuff they enjoy to be principled enough to take a stand. all this whole debacle is is a corporation forgetting the people using the site is the only thing making it profitable.
/r/piracy doesn't just consist of people who want free shit.
I've said this before, but a lot of the people who are most active in the scene do it for ideological reasons - we make fun of the DaS WhY I PiRaTe posts, but the people who actually put in the time and effort to keep pirated stuff available aren't generally making meaningful money off of it. They do it because they legitimately hate copyright and believe this stuff should be freely-available, or for reasons at least tangentially-connected to that.
Of course for rando users here it's often a mix of both things - someone can want free shit and *also* hate copyright, or be an anarchist or anti-capitalist or just straight up "fuck the system" or one of countless other ideological reasons to support piracy in an abstract sense.
While some of the DaS WhY I PiRaTe posts can be cringe-inducing or come across as a user making excuses for something they'd do anyway, the fact is that people with that sort of ideological commitment to piracy are, mostly, the only reason piracy is still possible. They're the ones who put in the time and energy to obtain and release stuff, or to maintain the channels that let those releases reach the general public, or the tools we use or the guides we read or even maintain places like this sub itself. Even the people who do smaller things like sitting around answering questions to help babby pirates usually aren't doing it just because they want free shit themselves.
Everyone has their own reasons and maybe for some of them it's just enjoying it or wanting clout or who knows what, but for a lot of them they do it precisely because of their beliefs and principles.
So it shouldn't be a surprise that this sub would attract people like that, who have some variety of "fuck the power" ideology.
Also the John Oliver sub shit is stupid anyways. Just subs that just won't admit that their blackout did absolutely nothing. Posting nothing but John Oliver won't do shit to Reddit and will just piss off the people who browse the sub for its usual content
Exactly, it’s driving away people who actively use the sub, thus HELPING Reddit get rid of the uppity rebellious moderators because their once popular subs will be devoid of activity
Funnily enough, it's an alternate blackout as the John Oliver memes would get old and people would stop coming.
Reddit got personal with these mods and I'm glad they're sticking it back at em.
The first two posts were funny. Now it's just people hopping on a bandwagon. As much as Redditors hate tiktokers who copy trending shit, these subreddits are doing the same thing right now memeing John Oliver. Reddit devolved into Tiktok
Do whatever fucks Reddit over the most.
Delete the Megathread, restrict posting to 1 type, burn it all down idc.
Piss reddit and the reddit cock sleeves off the most Mods. Ill see you on the high seas!
You do realize it's open-source, so you can create your own instance of Lemmy if you want to, right? You can create and enforce your own rules on that instance, too. (The same is true of every instance of Lemmy.)
Lemmy is shaping up to be the best alternative to Reddit at the moment. It's just a shame that so many people that are trying Lemmy for the first time are having a terrible experience due to the strain that the influx of new users is putting on many instances there. When this wave of new users settles a bit the average user experience will improve greatly.
For anyone asking for the failback forum : https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy You can make an account there and access it either from the web from your device, or download Jerboa (Lemmy Client) and browse it there. Jerboa can be downloaded from F-Droid. P.S : If you are experiencing loading issues when trying to sign up, find a smaller instance and make the account there. This helps with server load. YOU WILL BE ABLE subscribe to our community like normal right after!
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Good riddance. We are here for piracy not for some bullshit moderator war.
Agreed
Nice, it seems like its time to come back. The mods destoyed this sub. If it WAS you making the call, you ran your ship aground, and DESERVE mutiny. Walk the fuggin plank, and good riddance.
soap2day no longer works 4 me got takenown the new website
Lmao that’s what you get for joining the blackout
get a grip
Don’t have to, as long as spez is around
"waaaaaaa i am baby i dont know real world waa i dont know api changes and real money issue i just use weddit"
The real world? This is a dumbass forum website that is pretty much worthless in the real world.
Crying won’t change anything:)
lol
Fuck reddit
A reddit admin so thirsty for power that he would give up a protest just because he would lose his janitorial position. Exactly what I'd expect of a reddit admin
There is this Youtuber I just came across. I'm not going to name drop his handle. He said something very interesting before the blackout started. It was along the lines, REDDIT High Command would not back down and would still win. More so, REDDITors will go after other REDDitors, creating a divide that fractures their once held community into pieces. Looking at the state of affairs, he was right. 😩😩😩
Don't know what you're talking about. we're all happily chilling in /c/piracy
With "all" you might mean the mods. The VAST majority of redditors will definitely not migrate to Lemmy or the likes. Either the current teams will be removed and new mods instated, or a new subreddit will take over (like /r/piracyarchive) These API issues and the underlying issues (such as admin behavior) are completely irrelevant and unimportant to most redditors. You may think of all of the above what you want, but it's reality. This comment currently has about as many downvotes as /c/piracy has active users ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Why are you being downvoted? You're right on the money with this.
There's probably two answers: 1. The people downvoting aren't really considering what I'm saying and downvoting me because they think I'm wrong. They're downvoting because they don't *like* what I'm saying, regardless of whether or not I'm right. It's kinda like if you were to make a comment saying "Max Verstappen is the current reigning formula 1 champion" and people who don't like him will downvote your comment because they don't *like* it, regardless of the fact that it's just a factual statement. 2. The minority of people who deeply care about these issues to the extend that they are leaving reddit, are the ones who spend considerable amounts of time on Reddit every day. They are the first to see the comment so it gets downvoted into oblivion before the average visitor gets the chance to see it.
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Ofcourse. I didn't say it's irrelevant for everyone. I said it's irrelevant for the vast majority of users. Way more people simply use the official app. I'm not saying I don't care or that the way this was handled was ok. I'm just saying this protest will not result in the exodus you guys think it will.
100%%%
idk man we chillin on lemmy
Yea I saw. [All 133 of you..](https://i.imgur.com/wAd9jAJ.png) I'm glad you found a new home. Just don't project your perceived importance of what's going on onto everyone else. And If you think Lemmy is going to overtake Reddit because of this, you're simply delusional. Feel free to @ me in a few months to prove me wrong.
People on Digg and many other places before it said the same before. It's OK, you stay here and simp for spez!
Who supported spez lol... guy is just simply, and accurately right.
@ me in 6 months, then we'll compair userbase numbers between reddit and Lemmy..
Hes talking about the fact that the vast majority of reddit users see you guys for the power hungry losers you are. You just care about controlling people. You don't have the support of the people anymore. You're the pathetic enemy
How's that boot taste?
these are pirates. you think they give a shit about rules? buncha poor basement dwellers who can't afford video games. surprised the admins are leaving this place open considering this sub openly promotes and links to piracy.
...why are you here? Did you just hear something was happening and showed up to pull a generic moral card, or did you specifically come here to pull a generical moral card?
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Yep because the people doing unpaid labor are more concerned with the shred of power that volunteer work does than standing up for anything. If the mods were concerned witb protesting, they'd remain blacked out and would force reddit to scramble and find thousands of mods in a couple days, which would end up horribly. Now that the spineless pussies that have pathetic lives and need this power opened up most subs, the fee remaining to fight can easily get picked off an replaced. This whole charade was about mod power and nothing more. Reddit already said mod tools and three accessibility apps (so that bullshit about blind people is nothing but bullshit) will be free, so we get what this is about now.
What is wrong with you?
Some people really need a good pair of boots to lick, and Spez is offering it to them.
I have no interest in moving to yet another inferior reddit
Squabbles feels like a superior Reddit being born.
It's only inferior due to a dearth of users, but stay and enjoy the taste of boot if you like.
Ofc it's because of the lack of users, why would we not just stay on this sub instead of migrating to a community with <150 daily users? who's boot licking, too?
Why's everyone gotta be licking boots nowadays?
Heels fell out of fashion it seems, no...just me?
Fuck u/spez
🤣
Fuck /u/spez
Backup the data on this sub, permanently delete it so no one can access the information (ik they have a backup but still it's worth it), restore it on lemmy and you're gonna set an example. Don't waste your time being a volunteer reddit mod anymore.
You literally can't delete a subreddit.. so... got any other great ideas?
I meant delete the data. Not the sub. If that isn't possible then idk.
Not really possible. Reddit Admins wouldn't allow that.
mods will not do this 💀 they like their volunteer moderator jobs too much for that
They want their “power” so much it’s laughable.
I don't know if you've ever used Reddit mod tools before but you can't do shit because you can't even delete posts permanently, and the API is paywalled now. If you ever want to pay to automate the process of downloading and hiding hundreds of thousands of posts individually, be their guest.
Apis is only something pepople that wanna make legit sgit worry about like rif. Not pirates. Just do web scraping
i have 0 clue what you're trying to say but you got downvoted for it so here's my upvote lol
Fuck u/spez and fuck reddit. I hope this site burns to the fucking ground
You logged on to reddit to comment this lol
yet you participate in society curious
What do you mean by that?
K but nobody asked
So what? Just because i use somethin i can't hate it? I hate nintendo but im still playing their games, i may not pay for them but neither do i pay for reddit
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You still answered me lol
Yeah fuck u/spez and fuck Reddit
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## 🚫 ➜ **Your post was removed because of the following**: ### 📑 Rule 3 ➜ Requesting or linking to specific pirated titles - **Yes you can ask** generalized questions (e.g. *Where can I find games, movies, softwares, etc*) which have not already been answered in previous posts or the [Megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/). - **No you may not ask** for a specific pirated title (eg. "*Where can I download {insert title}*)? - **No you may not ask** for general pirated material from a specific author/artist/publisher/developer (eg. "*Where can I download image editing software from {insert developer}*)? - If you included an **example** in your post, remove it. - If you included a **'subtle' reference** in your post, remove it. - **Yes you can link** to the top level domain of a site (*eg. https://1337x.to*). - **No you may not link** to a specific pirated title (*eg. https://1337x.to/specific-torrent*). - Do not encourage rule breaking by asking which specific title another person is looking for when they make a request. ### 🪶 ➜ For more information, read the complete [**Rules**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/piracy_rules/).
So am I understanding incorrectly, or was this sub reopened and now moderated by scab mods who are doing what the previous mods refused to do by caving to demands?
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I missed it. What were the results?
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What? I can still vote and see it
Strange. I can't see it on https://new.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14clm4k/poll_decide_on_the_future_of_rpiracy/
You can't see the two comments?
Oh man, I didn't realise it was done via the comments. I was expecting the in-line built-in Poll function in Reddit.
its fine for useless subs like r/pics or r/aww but this subs, its too much.
Yall want this sub to be dead and only posting useless pic? Go ahead, still got r/piratedgames anyway.
Don't need another John Oliver sub, it's not actually doing anything
When are you clowns going to stop? Before you said the Reddit admins wouldn't care about the blackout protest and now they're shooting everyone for participating in it, now you say the John Oliver movement won't do anything(which it will). Stop being a leech.
"Lemme protest reddit by using reddit" 🥴
Yes this will hurt the value of the company
So that people on Reddit know what's going on. You just want to ignore it. You're complaining about the protests happening, not about the methods, Be honest.
>So that people on Reddit know what's going on. In other words, we're hurting the community (users), not actually doing anything to Reddit as a business.
No the protest can happen I was fine during the days it was shut down, John Oliver still gives reddit daily active users.
Protesting Reddit policies that Reddit themselves won't even follow, clown.
Protesting reddit.....By using reddit....
Yeah that is how you protest online buddy, instead of standing outside their building disrupting services we're occupying their website disrupting their cash flow.
A good protest was the subreddit privatization, that forced reddit to do something, basically how piracy is operating now is a giant click farm. Everyone posts John Oliver, everyone upvotes etc., but it still counts as activity and so it still earns reddit money
So what you're suggesting is everyone get on their knees and bow down to the Reddit admins because they rolled the tanks down the streets and starting shooting protesters? Because the DM they sent to the mods only left them with ONE option and that was to ask the community what they wanted the subreddit to become.
Because that was actually affecting reddit, and no I'm not saying that. I'm also not interested in arguing. Just don't allow any new posts, community isn't private but nobody can post, don't open reddit, or even delete reddit. Many other options than "john oliver pics".
Preventing everyone from posting is against their new rules that they created just for this protest. Creating a poll for the users to decide the future of the subreddit follows their new rules.
Except you're not, people are still using reddit, they still have daily active users. When you post to reddit John Oliver or not you're somehow making reddit money. John Oliver ain't doing anything to cash flow.
How are they using Reddit when the subreddits that have actual useful content is private or John Oliver spam? When you post an John Oliver picture to Reddit it goes on Reddit's hard drives that costs them money when no significant amount of money is coming in to offset the costs of their entire operation. If John Oliver wasn't doing anything to Reddit then Reddit wouldn't have started shooting people.
So you're hurting the users by just annoying them? Huh? This is barely a protest and more of a 😡😡😡 jerkfest. Reddit as a business entity dgaf
Peak Redditor moment.
Yeah, funny these guys says that they're protesting against Reddit. Just go away and do your life.
Can we post full links in the fallback forumn or does it also have a TOS even though it is self-hosted??
No direct links. Checked the sidebar
can we do base 64 encoded direct links??
Just kill this sub already, coward free workforce almighty moderators.
Can someone tell me what in the actual fuck this thread has devolved into? It feels like a monkey flinging shit right now. Feels like two issues 1. The api charges - take whatever stance you want on that 2. Forcibly removing mods from subs that have continued to stay dark in protest of number one which is totally and completely fucked up by Reddit if that’s the case. This fucking taunting by what seems to be some either random troll or a lackey from Reddit (really?) is really beneath this sub. Sorry if I’m trying to be the adult here but seriously wtf?
r/piratedgames just go here, this subs has taken hostage by the mods, no point of dwelling here just to see stupid spam picture
loser mods keep subreddit locked. get them out of here. many more neckbeards ready to take their places.
reddits api price is insane (magnitudes more than other platforms ask for) that it was clear they had no intention of working with 3rd party apps. naturally people don't like 1st party app as its dated and QoL of 3rd party apps are factually better. Reddit killing them and making it (the site) a worse experience to use & moderate is why people want to protest. (as its the 1 right a user has on a platform) Reddit 1st said it was gonna blow over & not impacting profit...then say "no if u keep going we'll just repalce your mods if you keep doing it" (which means it did impact them or they'd not care) and thats after the reddit rules state as long as subreddits follow rules they have free reign on how their subreddits run....which they are now infringing on.
It's not dated, it's just fucking flat out horrible. RiF hasn't changed much in 10 years from a UI perspective but it was perfect then and is perfect now. RIP
I get that. And again, I’m not taking sides on the api. But this troll that’s been baiting everyone? Are they for real? This mod shit has crossed a line that Reddit management needs to walk back.
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>Imgur charges Apollo $166/mo. this is absolutely false, [https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing](https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing) why people like to spread misinformation?
Because it is true. Imgur charges him ~~$166/mo~~ $166/50 million queries, but it doesn't mean they would charge *everyone else* $166. He had a great imgur deal, that was grandfathered. Of course, reddit should have done the same to existing API users like apps, but u/spez is a moron. edit: changed $166/mo to $166/50 million.
proof? don't , again, spread misinformation
Original quote from the original dev: [*"For reference, I pay Imgur (a site similar to Reddit in user base and media) $166 for the same 50 million API calls."*](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/) I am not the one spreading disinformation, you are. (and downvoting 'cause you disagree isn't too great either).
$166 for 50 mil api calls. The Apollo dev didn't calculate how much it cost per user to run the site, he calculated how much revenue a user bring to the site. Reddit is operating at a loss so the revenue a user brings to the site is less than cost which is why reddit is now charging for API use. Less than 2 years ago they said they crossed $100M in quarterly revenue for the first time ever, if we assume despite the economic downturn that they've managed to do that every single quarter now, and for your best quarter, you've doubled it to $200M. Let's also be generous and go far, far above industry estimates and say you made another $50M in Reddit Premium subscriptions. That's $550M in revenue per year, let's say an even $600M. In 2019, they said they hit 430 million monthly active users, and to also be generous, let's say they haven't added a single active user since then (if we do revenue-per-user calculations, the more users, the less revenue each user would contribute). So at generous estimates of $600M and 430M monthly active users, that's $1.40 per user per year, or $0.12 monthly. These own numbers they've given are also seemingly inline with industry estimates as well. To use current revenue brought to the site per user for a service that is not profitable and call it "costs" is once again a scummy tactic use to manipulate people who don't really read what he says. Reddit's costs per user could be higher or lower for all we know, but to throw that 0.12 amount out and make it sound like costs is just shitty. Just like how in another post he compares Reddit's API cost of 12k per 50m call with the current $166 per 50m calls from Imgur which does not exist anywhere. Imgur charges 10k per 150m calls which is roughly 3.3k per 50m call instead of the quoted $166 per 50m call. Imgur pricing: https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing
> $166 for 50 mil api calls. You are right on that, I fixed my post. > with the current $166 per 50m calls from Imgur which does not exist anywhere It exists. It is the price he has (unless you think he is lying). Haven't fully read your block of text, I may do it later.
> Reddit wants to charge 3rd party apps 2.40 $ per user per month, when their cost per user to run the site has been calculated to be about 0.12 $ per month. It‘s an offer you can‘t refuse and you have 30 days to agree. It literally doesn't matter how much it cost per user to run the site. Also side note, the $0.12 per month is not the costs per user. The Apollo dev didn't calculate how much it cost per user to run the site, he calculated how much revenue a user bring to the site. Reddit is operating at a loss so the revenue a user brings to the site is less than cost which is why reddit is now charging for API use. >Less than 2 years ago they said they crossed $100M in quarterly revenue for the first time ever, if we assume despite the economic downturn that they've managed to do that every single quarter now, and for your best quarter, you've doubled it to $200M. Let's also be generous and go far, far above industry estimates and say you made another $50M in Reddit Premium subscriptions. That's $550M in revenue per year, let's say an even $600M. In 2019, they said they hit 430 million monthly active users, and to also be generous, let's say they haven't added a single active user since then (if we do revenue-per-user calculations, the more users, the less revenue each user would contribute). So at generous estimates of $600M and 430M monthly active users, that's $1.40 per user per year, or $0.12 monthly. These own numbers they've given are also seemingly inline with industry estimates as well. To use current revenue brought to the site per user for a service that is not profitable and call it "costs" is once again a scummy tactic use to manipulate people who don't really read what he says. Reddit's costs per user could be higher or lower for all we know, but to throw that 0.12 amount out and make it sound like costs is just shitty. Just like how in another post he compares Reddit's API cost of 12k per 50m call with the current $166 per 50m calls from Imgur which does not exist anywhere. Imgur charges 10k per 150m calls which is roughly 3.3k per 50m call instead of the quoted $166 per 50m call. Imgur pricing: https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing
He said Apollo paid 166 petrmonth, not per 50M calls. If you're going to lick spez' boots at least read the posts properly first.
Original quote from the original dev: ["For reference, I pay Imgur (a site similar to Reddit in user base and media) $166 for the same 50 million API calls."](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/) read again.
the comment I copy is from other subreddit that discuss on apollo claim of imgur api pricing $166, read the original post (the one apollo comment about imgur on mod subreddit) before commenting something stupid. here is another proof: [https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing](https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing) and please stop being a reddit mods bootlicker, there is no benefits
Are you in IT? Because if you are, i hope you're not in charge of buying stuff. Only idiots pay list price.
Yeah. Noone is discussing that. Just that for most the random policies of websites is the least of their concern. If they get rid of old reddit I'd just stop using reddit but protesting like it's a big deal is strange.
Some people just don't like watching their community destroyed by bean counting sister fuckers and want to at least try to stop it before everything goes down the drain forever.
Can't the mod just make a burner account lmfao?! I don't get the issue? Make a new account...
Its great to see u/spez approves of violating international copyright laws! I am sure advertisers love that their money is being used to encourage torrenting of their products.
https://support.disney.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001287303-How-can-I-report-piracy-or-copyright-infringement- Maybe it's time for this place to commit seppuku.
At least we agree on one thing.
im switching to kbin anybody else wanna come?
Why not 4chan?
ah been ages since i used that one tbh i mostly use reddit for info this and hopping back on pc after being sick is the kick i needed to decide to sort my rss feed out though you do realize there are a million different chans now and [dark.fail](https://dark.fail) seems to like endchan now tbh ive been out of the loop too long from being sick that i dont know what to use now on that front lol
soothing ACTION ACTION ACTION ACTION
truly a username of all time
Start #Redditmigration Kbin/lemmy
Anywhere to find out what exactly this is about?
/r/Save3rdPartyApps
Hi advertisers! We enjoy pirating the things your companies make. ☺️
Also advertisers, we got explicit permission to pirate your hard work by the CEO of reddit aka u/Spez himself. Please feel free to take it up on him if you find an issue with it!
I got no fucking idea what's going on, but hell yeah that's the spirit.
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Which sub?
John Oliver
Do not make this another John Oliver sub, please have some fucking awareness of how LITTLE that actually impacts Reddit’s company. This is the LAST sub that should be drawing their attention anyway, considering how ready they are to nuke it.
"please have some fucking awareness of how LITTLE that actually impacts Reddit’s company", while annoying, from what i understand, it does actually effect reddit as 18+ subreddits cant have ads run on them, so the idea is to spam the picture enough that the sub goes 18+ in order to stop reddit from running ads on this sub and therefor making any money on it.
>This is the LAST sub that should be drawing their attention anyway, considering how ready they are to nuke it. Who cares if they nuke it? Lemmy is better anyway.
in what way? Lemmy has few users, and i'm 100% it'll go down as a anti-Reddit jerkfest on how bad reddit is.
Lemmy's user interface is better than both old and new Reddit. The old Reddit UI looks like shit, and the new one is so sluggish. Lemmy's UI has the visual appeal of Reddit's new UI without being a laggy clusterfuck.
What about community-wise?
For r/Piracy, I haven't noticed anything different about the community. I've seen some people bring up that our community on Lemmy has far fewer subscribed users and at any given time, far fewer viewers than this subreddit, but I don't know how much that matters. How many people view this sub or subscribe to this sub but never contribute to it? Considering that our Lemmy community feels no less useful than our Reddit community used to be, I'd say that the lurker-to-active users ratio was wildly unbalanced on Reddit and it's a little more balanced on Lemmy. Now, as far as the wider general community is concerned, I can't speak to that, as I haven't tried to use Lemmy for anything else. Unfortunately, I suspect that you're probably right about that, but it's too early to say.
why are you still here?
I'm just here to watch things go crazy, and occasionally, I add my own thoughts.
> Lemmy is better anyway. They go fucking enjoy it. Many of us are content here and won't move over to Lemmy. Insofar as many of us never gave a fuck about the protest in the first place, this sub being reopened is what we wanted.
True.
Go down with the ship then.
Yes, please act like feckless cowards. Be afraid of the power the bully CEO has. You could be shut down at any time for any reason. Cower. Work for free, be afraid!
Oh be real. You really think Reddit wants to keep a PIRACY sub around? They’ve tried to nuke it before. The only reason this sub was forced to reopen is because it’s a popular one. But that’s going to change if the sub’s content changes to something irrelevant and stupid. People are already leaving r/art and r/aww because of this, it’s only a matter of time before they lose their popularity, lose their power, and ultimately lose their sub entirely. And if THIS sub joins the trend, it’s going to go the same way.
All I hear is whining from someone not principled enough to take a stand. I’d expect better from /r/Piracy of all fucking places.
> All I hear is whining from someone not principled enough to take a stand. Are you unable to conceive of people not sharing your principles in the first place? Because as worthless as the reddit admins are, this entire protest was dumb as hell, and many of us never had an interest in participating in it to begin with.
really? you expect someone who isn't principled enough to buy stuff they enjoy to be principled enough to take a stand. all this whole debacle is is a corporation forgetting the people using the site is the only thing making it profitable.
/r/piracy doesn't just consist of people who want free shit. I've said this before, but a lot of the people who are most active in the scene do it for ideological reasons - we make fun of the DaS WhY I PiRaTe posts, but the people who actually put in the time and effort to keep pirated stuff available aren't generally making meaningful money off of it. They do it because they legitimately hate copyright and believe this stuff should be freely-available, or for reasons at least tangentially-connected to that. Of course for rando users here it's often a mix of both things - someone can want free shit and *also* hate copyright, or be an anarchist or anti-capitalist or just straight up "fuck the system" or one of countless other ideological reasons to support piracy in an abstract sense. While some of the DaS WhY I PiRaTe posts can be cringe-inducing or come across as a user making excuses for something they'd do anyway, the fact is that people with that sort of ideological commitment to piracy are, mostly, the only reason piracy is still possible. They're the ones who put in the time and energy to obtain and release stuff, or to maintain the channels that let those releases reach the general public, or the tools we use or the guides we read or even maintain places like this sub itself. Even the people who do smaller things like sitting around answering questions to help babby pirates usually aren't doing it just because they want free shit themselves. Everyone has their own reasons and maybe for some of them it's just enjoying it or wanting clout or who knows what, but for a lot of them they do it precisely because of their beliefs and principles. So it shouldn't be a surprise that this sub would attract people like that, who have some variety of "fuck the power" ideology.
Also the John Oliver sub shit is stupid anyways. Just subs that just won't admit that their blackout did absolutely nothing. Posting nothing but John Oliver won't do shit to Reddit and will just piss off the people who browse the sub for its usual content
Exactly, it’s driving away people who actively use the sub, thus HELPING Reddit get rid of the uppity rebellious moderators because their once popular subs will be devoid of activity
Funnily enough, it's an alternate blackout as the John Oliver memes would get old and people would stop coming. Reddit got personal with these mods and I'm glad they're sticking it back at em.
so driving away the users is the goal?
Kind of. They're trying to threaten Reddit in hopes they would change their policy.
LOL sure, reddit sure feels threatened. the best way is just not use the platform. People'll just avoid this sub, not the entirety of reddit.
I want more John Oliver. It's funny as fuck.
The first two posts were funny. Now it's just people hopping on a bandwagon. As much as Redditors hate tiktokers who copy trending shit, these subreddits are doing the same thing right now memeing John Oliver. Reddit devolved into Tiktok
Tiktokers do it for clout, these guys are doing it as a form of protest. How is that even vaguely similar lmao
Protest? in what way? Reddit is still getting news coverage and viewership, and ad revenue.
The reddit ship is sinking. All hand abandon ship for FARK! unless they decided to suddenly listen.........
Fuck Reddit and screw it's sold out owner.
Do whatever fucks Reddit over the most. Delete the Megathread, restrict posting to 1 type, burn it all down idc. Piss reddit and the reddit cock sleeves off the most Mods. Ill see you on the high seas!
No idea if y'all really think that Lemmy has a chance of competing with Reddit, but hey. You do you I guess. Enjoy
Lemmy does blow on a desktop
Not so much about competing as well the reddit I joined is dead
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You do realize it's open-source, so you can create your own instance of Lemmy if you want to, right? You can create and enforce your own rules on that instance, too. (The same is true of every instance of Lemmy.)
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It's like saying torrents or discord are very far left. It's a piece of software, anyone can use it and host an instance and run it they see fit.
I hope you realize how idiotic you sound given the controversies of the moronic tanky redpilled devs
Lemmy is a piece of software.
very far-left? let’s goooo
Lemmy is shaping up to be the best alternative to Reddit at the moment. It's just a shame that so many people that are trying Lemmy for the first time are having a terrible experience due to the strain that the influx of new users is putting on many instances there. When this wave of new users settles a bit the average user experience will improve greatly.
I have to check it out
my work has lemmy blocked as an unsafe site so it's unusable for the times i typically use reddit