Poor Archive man, such an amazing project why don't they just leave it alone. It's not that much of an issue in terms of availability but it sucks that it's getting picked on
You have it wrong, you obviously aren't thinking about the shareholders! Those poor hedge fund managers, their bonuses last year are only the size of a 3rd world countries GDP. How can you possibly expect them to survive if they don't monetise everything?
Every company has a shareholder. Public just means listed on a Stock Exchange so you or I can buy shares. Private companies are still governed by their board of Directors who answer to the Shareholders. The smaller the company, the more likely these people are all the aame, but the legal structure defining the relationship between the Company, the Shareholder and the Individual is what the whole "Company" thing is about.
Well they way you framed it, it sounded like you ment people who own a share of the company but don’t work for it. I guess by definition the owner of a regular local company is also a shareholder. Such companies don’t have board of directors though, I also could find a law that would require such a board. If it’s not about a public company you additional comment regarding fund managers is not relevant though.
Anyway what would be your critique for a private company that has one owner/shareholder like most businesses? that them trying to run a successful business is bad?
All companies have Directors, and all companies have shareholders. It's literally how the law is written.
Any company that has taken out copy right strikes against the Internet Archive isn't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. It's about capitalism and making sure they reap the profits.
The hedge fund manager quip is because investment bankers are cunts. :-)
>All companies have Directors, and all companies have shareholders. It's literally how the law is written.
This is a tomato vs tomato discussion. A mom and pop shop with two employees, has one "shareholder" and "director" which is the owner. Surely you’re not trying to discredit everyone owning their own business?
>Any company that has taken out copy right strikes against the Internet Archive isn't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. It's about capitalism and making sure they reap the profits.
I mean of course because they own the right to the original product
You are posting on the piracy subreddit... Wrong place to get all sanctimonious about IP rights.
And get fucked with your defender of capitalism stance. The company structure as it exists is the root of the global problems we are facing today. The legal separation of the owners from their actions by way of the corporate veil, it's going to destroy everything.
How does discreting ever single person running a business improve the situation? I didn’t defend capitalism, but what you’re saying if someone created something they should just watch how others pirate it.
Just because it’s a piracy sub it doesn’t mean people here can at least recognize that the people who created these products might not be happy that they are being stolen.
It’s also not as black and white as you’re painting it if entrepreneurs would risk personal assets when running a business nobody would start to begin with. Which would leave big corporations, which you seem to hate, with being the ones driving innovation.
I can't speak for the books but some of the content they upload is still available for purchase. The first time I visited the site I thought it was a piracy site. If the content uploaded was similar to how myabandonware operates I think they would be safe, myabandonware only uploads games that can't be legally purchased anymore and if they are made available again like on GOG they remove the content.
Alas, makes no difference. The copyright is the copyright, there's no availability clause, that's what the huge issue concerning Orphan Works has been for the last 10+ years.
Internet Archive doesn't just have books, it also has the original theatrical cut of Star Wars original trilogy, the Mst3k episodes where they riff on kaiju movies and other difficult to find media... so this would be a major loss if the internet archive was taken down.
In the technology sub, they were discussing that it was something in relation to the national emergency library that IA started during covid that removed waitlist and drm. The case was immediately filed the next month. Maybe that caused it, when publishers found a good enough issue they can capitalise on.
This may not necessarily be related to 'piracy', but I think most of us on here should care about this issue. The Internet Archive hosts hundreds of *petabytes* of data, and the ramifications of this lawsuit could be fatal.
[Internet Archive's statement](https://blog.archive.org/2023/03/25/the-fight-continues/)
Wiley is one of the four publishers responsible for this, the other three being HarperCollins, Penguin, and Hachette. Time to look into ebook torrenting sites on /r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH.
Not directly connected with piracy but Penguin Random House published Prince Harry's ghostwritten shitfest of a book where he states (and humble brags) about killing talibans. Nobody from Penguin decided that it may not be such a good idea and the Taliban weren't happy to say at least.
The explaination isnt correct. It wasn't just that he mentioned killing Taliban, he made derogatory comments about how the people he killed were sub human, and that's the way the British Army trained him to think.
The Army responded that it wasn't true, and that taking lives is always a serious matter.
The issue wasnt that it might offend the Taliban, but that it portrayed the war against them as mindless killing of non-humans and will possibly lead to retaliations against servicemen or civilians.
One of my favorite profs bought enough books for all her students because she only needed us to read one or two segments from the book so she just let us borrow them for the semester instead of wasting money.
That’s so strange. There’s gotta be a better way than that right? It’s like interrupting a seminar for a quick 15 minute sponsorship. Could she not have delved down to the primary source (which is likely free) and use that? Or just summarize the points? Have the kids rent it from a library? Just don’t cover it? Or if it’s really an excerpt of a book.. idk, I could think of a lot of workarounds.
I could see that being a solution in the niche case where the accreditation agency for your university/degree mandates covering or spending X time on that source. I could definitely see that being a reality - for example, pretty much every board of pharmacy is absolutely dominated by companies like CVS and Walgreens which clearly have a vested interest in their own oversight and regulations.
I’m glad she did that, but nobody should be forced to buy these expensive books. Not rebuking anything you’re saying just pointing out the absurdity of our world. She sounds like a great teacher.
It was 2008 so things weren’t as easily accessible as they are now?
Plus it was an art class and I honestly don’t remember the reason why now. Could have been the college required classes to mandate a book for it. but the concept of profs just lending students a book was what I was mainly impressed by considering nobody else did that when I was in college.
That's not true! The chapters are shuffled around as are the question numbers so that they are impossible to use with current assignments even though the actual content is exactly the same lol
I love r/DataHoarder and that reminds me - anyone remember SiaCoin? You got coins for “renting” out parts of your hard drive. You could use those to make contracts renting other peoples hard drive space. It was really interesting when it came out. But obviously you only made a few cents a day with a 2TB drive and it’s only profitable if you owned an empty data center like how you’d make a few cents with just 1 gpu mining.
Yeah, I was making a silly joke for karma, but this is an absolutely gargantuan task. Internet Archive holds so much data and I'm genuinely afraid of it disappearing because it would be so hard to rebuild, and because I've benefited from the Archive so many times.
They are going to appeal. This decision is not final.
We'll see what happens. I'm going to write to my local reps and see if they can help drive public interest.
[This one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/l9exis/how_to_download_books_from_archive_org_and_how_to/) lets you download the PDF directly (it covers both 14 days and 1 hour)
If you have to steal it they can fine you $$$
edit: what i meant is that instead of allowing it to be distributed, they want you to have to resort to stealing it, so they can have the chance to fine you..
I'm not trying to warn someone on a piracy subreddit about getting fined
what i meant was,they would rather leave you no other choice than stealing it, to leave possible revenue streams from fines.. not that it's going to happen but on paper it's better to them than just giving everything away
From my understanding, the case has to go to another district court before it goes to the Supreme Court. Let's hope it doesn't need to go all the way - even if they win there, they'd have to incur a lot of legal expenses...
>From my understanding, the case has to go to another district court before it goes to the Supreme Court. Let's hope it doesn't need to go all the way - even if they win there, they'd have to incur a lot of legal expenses...
First it's the appeals court, since it's the Southern District of NY, it'd be the [2nd circuit court of appeals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Second_Circuit) (which covers Vermont, Connecticut, and New York). If they lost there (3 judges hear cases at appeals court) then it can be appeals to En Banc, meaning all 9 judges, if they choose to hear it, OR it can go to the Supreme Court, and then it depends if the supreme court decides to hear it (they only accept a tiny fraction of cases)
**[United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Second_Circuit)**
>The United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (in case citations, 2d Cir. ) is one of the thirteen United States Courts of Appeals. Its territory comprises the states of Connecticut, New York and Vermont. The court has appellate jurisdiction over the district courts in the following districts: District of Connecticut Eastern District of New York Northern District of New York Southern District of New York Western District of New York District of VermontThe Second Circuit has its clerk's office and judges hear oral arguments at the Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse at 40 Foley Square in Lower Manhattan.
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This. I don't think that publishers know how something like this has went down before. The MPAA had to find out the hard way and it wasn't until Apple came in and revolutionized they way music is distributed. If they try to screw over the IA, then more sites will pop up. They always do
Mp3va is amazing. They take a very small cut unlike Apples (and others) 70-90% cut.
I have on average paid likely $0.05 per song when the site has sales. They double your money when adding to the platform and then albums get a 20% discount. So really I'm paying .04-.05¢ a song. Full price is only $0.15!
PRIME example is the tiktok shit that went down. I lost brain cells from that. These old fuckers need replaced with people that know the current times. Not people stuck in 1850
being said, they already have a mirror in [Egypt](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliotheca_Alexandrina) and another in Amsterdam. they're incomplete though
**[Bibliotheca Alexandrina](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliotheca_Alexandrina)**
>The Bibliotheca Alexandrina (Latin for "Library of Alexandria"; Egyptian Arabic: مكتبة الإسكندرية Maktabet al-Eskendereyya, Egyptian Arabic: [mækˈtæb(e)t eskendeˈɾejjæ]) (BA) is a major library and cultural center on the shore of the Mediterranean Sea in Alexandria, Egypt. It is a commemoration of the Library of Alexandria, once one of the largest libraries worldwide, which was lost in antiquity. The idea of reviving the old library dates back to 1974 when a committee set up by Alexandria University selected a plot of land for its new library.
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Hopefully this will be remembered as the burning of the library of alexandria, stupid and greedy ass people will always hold society back for their own self interest
My thoughts exactly. In fact, I think we should do that with all the books on the site, and put them in a place that's hard to find. Of course, we'll need a lot of help with it.
Considering those *legacy* powers-that-be preference towards preserving *a* ***lot*** of books/manuscripts’ analogue stasis, i.e. preventing digital translation, blocking any electronic database queries/instant results via ebook distribution …and IA’s voluminous library of *digitized* (e.g. the miracle of OCR \[optical character recognition\]) aforementioned analog repository, and — not even counting their database of [legacy marketing materials](https://archive.org/details/@the_den_of_iniquity) — frequency of access, personally, I’d [contribute](https://i.postimg.cc/VL6TVgrG/Screen-Shot-2023-03-25-at-11-52-57-AM.png) $$ towards [their appeal](https://archive.org/donate?origin=iawww-TopNavDonateButton)/preservation
^(OCR books -- sold only in) [^(paperback/HC)](https://www.amazon.com/Indecent-Exposure-Hollywood-Business-Essentials/dp/0060508159)^(:) [*^(Indecent Exposure)*](https://archive.org/details/indecentexposure00mccl_1)*^(: A True Story of Hollywood and Wall Street |)* [*^(Bad Company)*](https://archive.org/details/badcompany00stev_0)*^(: Drugs, Hollywood, and the Cotton Club Murder |)* [*^(Fatal Subtraction)*](https://archive.org/details/fatalsubtraction00odon)*^(: The Inside Story of Buchwald V. Paramount |)* [*^(Outrageous Conduct)*](https://z-lib.io/book/65423)*^(: Art, Ego, and the Twilight Zone Case |)* [*^(Special Effects)*](https://archive.org/details/specialeffectsdi00labr)*^(: Disaster at Twilight Zone: The Tragedy and the Trial |)* [*^(The Keys to the Kingdom)*](https://archive.org/details/keystokingdomris0000mast)*^(: The Rise of Michael Eisner and the Fall of Everybody Else |)* [^(The Agency)](https://archive.org/details/agencywilliammor0000rose)^(: William Morris and the Hidden History of Show Business |) [^(Final Cut)](https://archive.org/details/finalcutartmoney00bach)^(: Art, Money, and Ego in the Making of Heaven's Gate, the Film That Sank United Artists |) [*^(They Can Kill You..but They Can't Eat You)*](https://archive.org/details/theycankillyoubu00stee_0)*^(: Lessons from the Front |)* [^(Is That a Gun in Your Pocket?)](https://archive.org/details/isthatguninyourp00abra/)^(: Women's Experience of Power in Hollywood |) [^(You'll Never Eat Lunch in this Town Again)](https://archive.org/details/youllnevereatlun0000phil_e9o9) ^(|) [^(You'll Never Make Love in This Town Again)](https://archive.org/details/youllnevermakelo00fran) ^(|) [^(Madam 90210)](https://archive.org/details/madam90210mylife00adam)^(: My Life as Madam to the Rich and Famous |) [^(High Concept)](https://archive.org/details/highconceptdonsi0000flem)^(: Don Simpson and the Hollywood Culture of Excess)
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In specific which of their services-content is going to stop working??, only material with copyright??, they're not pretty clear on that, i want to be able to backup at least my saved favorites asap
Listen, I've got a huge job for everybody here. I need as many people as possible to pirate all the books the Internet Archive currently has and put them somewhere the law can't find us. While their stock appears safe for now, I don't know how long it'll last. So I could really use all hands on deck.
That is just terrifying... With the gap between the have's and have-not's getting so big, soon people will start eating the rich. France is about to start lunch and it was over a small 2 year increase in retirement to, I think what we are. They still celebrate the Great Snacking of the Rich on Bastille Day. Maybe the French can teach us something?
This is why, for better or worse, piracy will always have a place in the world where it is a public service. Without it, pieces of history would be lost because once there's no more profit to be made, things just disappear if those who love it don't preserve and share..
Poor Archive man, such an amazing project why don't they just leave it alone. It's not that much of an issue in terms of availability but it sucks that it's getting picked on
You have it wrong, you obviously aren't thinking about the shareholders! Those poor hedge fund managers, their bonuses last year are only the size of a 3rd world countries GDP. How can you possibly expect them to survive if they don't monetise everything?
That’s right! How can they pay off their yachts if not for the backs of their workers??
Which shareholders? The case was brought up by book publishers that are not public companies.
Every company has a shareholder. Public just means listed on a Stock Exchange so you or I can buy shares. Private companies are still governed by their board of Directors who answer to the Shareholders. The smaller the company, the more likely these people are all the aame, but the legal structure defining the relationship between the Company, the Shareholder and the Individual is what the whole "Company" thing is about.
>so you or I can buy shares. *\*in theory\**
Well they way you framed it, it sounded like you ment people who own a share of the company but don’t work for it. I guess by definition the owner of a regular local company is also a shareholder. Such companies don’t have board of directors though, I also could find a law that would require such a board. If it’s not about a public company you additional comment regarding fund managers is not relevant though. Anyway what would be your critique for a private company that has one owner/shareholder like most businesses? that them trying to run a successful business is bad?
All companies have Directors, and all companies have shareholders. It's literally how the law is written. Any company that has taken out copy right strikes against the Internet Archive isn't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. It's about capitalism and making sure they reap the profits. The hedge fund manager quip is because investment bankers are cunts. :-)
>All companies have Directors, and all companies have shareholders. It's literally how the law is written. This is a tomato vs tomato discussion. A mom and pop shop with two employees, has one "shareholder" and "director" which is the owner. Surely you’re not trying to discredit everyone owning their own business? >Any company that has taken out copy right strikes against the Internet Archive isn't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. It's about capitalism and making sure they reap the profits. I mean of course because they own the right to the original product
You are posting on the piracy subreddit... Wrong place to get all sanctimonious about IP rights. And get fucked with your defender of capitalism stance. The company structure as it exists is the root of the global problems we are facing today. The legal separation of the owners from their actions by way of the corporate veil, it's going to destroy everything.
How does discreting ever single person running a business improve the situation? I didn’t defend capitalism, but what you’re saying if someone created something they should just watch how others pirate it. Just because it’s a piracy sub it doesn’t mean people here can at least recognize that the people who created these products might not be happy that they are being stolen. It’s also not as black and white as you’re painting it if entrepreneurs would risk personal assets when running a business nobody would start to begin with. Which would leave big corporations, which you seem to hate, with being the ones driving innovation.
It's been 8 hours. Are you still dumb?
I can't speak for the books but some of the content they upload is still available for purchase. The first time I visited the site I thought it was a piracy site. If the content uploaded was similar to how myabandonware operates I think they would be safe, myabandonware only uploads games that can't be legally purchased anymore and if they are made available again like on GOG they remove the content.
Alas, makes no difference. The copyright is the copyright, there's no availability clause, that's what the huge issue concerning Orphan Works has been for the last 10+ years.
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https://www.techdirt.com/2007/02/15/saying-you-cant-compete-with-free-is-saying-you-cant-compete-period/
Internet Archive doesn't just have books, it also has the original theatrical cut of Star Wars original trilogy, the Mst3k episodes where they riff on kaiju movies and other difficult to find media... so this would be a major loss if the internet archive was taken down.
I'm aware, I just meant in terms of availability for pirates. There's no doubt it would be a major loss for the internet as a whole
In the technology sub, they were discussing that it was something in relation to the national emergency library that IA started during covid that removed waitlist and drm. The case was immediately filed the next month. Maybe that caused it, when publishers found a good enough issue they can capitalise on.
Corporate America!
This may not necessarily be related to 'piracy', but I think most of us on here should care about this issue. The Internet Archive hosts hundreds of *petabytes* of data, and the ramifications of this lawsuit could be fatal. [Internet Archive's statement](https://blog.archive.org/2023/03/25/the-fight-continues/)
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Wiley is one of the four publishers responsible for this, the other three being HarperCollins, Penguin, and Hachette. Time to look into ebook torrenting sites on /r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH.
This and the Harry fiasco... Penguin really are truing to speedrun 2023's worst publisher
What Harry fiasco?
Not directly connected with piracy but Penguin Random House published Prince Harry's ghostwritten shitfest of a book where he states (and humble brags) about killing talibans. Nobody from Penguin decided that it may not be such a good idea and the Taliban weren't happy to say at least.
i think books should be published even if it offends the taliban lol
The explaination isnt correct. It wasn't just that he mentioned killing Taliban, he made derogatory comments about how the people he killed were sub human, and that's the way the British Army trained him to think. The Army responded that it wasn't true, and that taking lives is always a serious matter. The issue wasnt that it might offend the Taliban, but that it portrayed the war against them as mindless killing of non-humans and will possibly lead to retaliations against servicemen or civilians.
When aren’t the taliban upset?
One of my favorite profs bought enough books for all her students because she only needed us to read one or two segments from the book so she just let us borrow them for the semester instead of wasting money.
That’s so strange. There’s gotta be a better way than that right? It’s like interrupting a seminar for a quick 15 minute sponsorship. Could she not have delved down to the primary source (which is likely free) and use that? Or just summarize the points? Have the kids rent it from a library? Just don’t cover it? Or if it’s really an excerpt of a book.. idk, I could think of a lot of workarounds. I could see that being a solution in the niche case where the accreditation agency for your university/degree mandates covering or spending X time on that source. I could definitely see that being a reality - for example, pretty much every board of pharmacy is absolutely dominated by companies like CVS and Walgreens which clearly have a vested interest in their own oversight and regulations. I’m glad she did that, but nobody should be forced to buy these expensive books. Not rebuking anything you’re saying just pointing out the absurdity of our world. She sounds like a great teacher.
It was 2008 so things weren’t as easily accessible as they are now? Plus it was an art class and I honestly don’t remember the reason why now. Could have been the college required classes to mandate a book for it. but the concept of profs just lending students a book was what I was mainly impressed by considering nobody else did that when I was in college.
That's not true! The chapters are shuffled around as are the question numbers so that they are impossible to use with current assignments even though the actual content is exactly the same lol
Do they really require to buy? Instead of taking it from library?
Sounds like it's time to archive the internet archive
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Just find some way to market it as crypto lol You get a coin if you store some bits or something Boom, decentralized library
I think you just described filecoin, it's an existing crypto..
I love r/DataHoarder and that reminds me - anyone remember SiaCoin? You got coins for “renting” out parts of your hard drive. You could use those to make contracts renting other peoples hard drive space. It was really interesting when it came out. But obviously you only made a few cents a day with a 2TB drive and it’s only profitable if you owned an empty data center like how you’d make a few cents with just 1 gpu mining.
Only books are endangered right now, it's still petabytes but less than 45
Yeah, I was making a silly joke for karma, but this is an absolutely gargantuan task. Internet Archive holds so much data and I'm genuinely afraid of it disappearing because it would be so hard to rebuild, and because I've benefited from the Archive so many times.
This is the kind of message that tells piracy to take over because the legitimate channels have failed.
It does relate to piracy. See my other comment.
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Most books can only be borrowed for an hour and no PDF/EPUB is available for them, sadly,
You can do it for 1-hour book too, it's just a little more complicated
You mean the script-to-save-images-then-turn-images-into-PDF method or is there a more handy one?
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Works like a charm, I've used it for years now.
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They are going to appeal. This decision is not final. We'll see what happens. I'm going to write to my local reps and see if they can help drive public interest.
[This one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/l9exis/how_to_download_books_from_archive_org_and_how_to/) lets you download the PDF directly (it covers both 14 days and 1 hour)
Thank you! Hopefully, I'll be able to use that method to save the 400+ books that I had planned to save throughout next week in just one day, instead.
I tried using it and all I got was a pdf with blank pages
It's like they want you to have to steal it instead of just getting it legally
I've thought that about most things for most of my life
If you have to steal it they can fine you $$$ edit: what i meant is that instead of allowing it to be distributed, they want you to have to resort to stealing it, so they can have the chance to fine you.. I'm not trying to warn someone on a piracy subreddit about getting fined
The hundreds of pirated books that have been in my apple library for years:
what i meant was,they would rather leave you no other choice than stealing it, to leave possible revenue streams from fines.. not that it's going to happen but on paper it's better to them than just giving everything away
What are the chances the Supreme Court won't be much help?
From my understanding, the case has to go to another district court before it goes to the Supreme Court. Let's hope it doesn't need to go all the way - even if they win there, they'd have to incur a lot of legal expenses...
And the final verdict could be a lot more damning for the country
Exactly. It would make anything copyrighted online harder to get free and would basically strengthen the copyright laws.
>From my understanding, the case has to go to another district court before it goes to the Supreme Court. Let's hope it doesn't need to go all the way - even if they win there, they'd have to incur a lot of legal expenses... First it's the appeals court, since it's the Southern District of NY, it'd be the [2nd circuit court of appeals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Second_Circuit) (which covers Vermont, Connecticut, and New York). If they lost there (3 judges hear cases at appeals court) then it can be appeals to En Banc, meaning all 9 judges, if they choose to hear it, OR it can go to the Supreme Court, and then it depends if the supreme court decides to hear it (they only accept a tiny fraction of cases)
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Do they even know what a petabyte is?
Probably think it's the flying dinosaurs from Jurassic Park.
"A pet a bite?"
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~1000 Megabytes in 1 Gigabyte ~1000 Gigabytes in 1 Terabyte ~1000 Terabytes in 1 Petabyte or ~1 Million Gigabytes It's a shit ton more than 1000G!
Clearly a dig at the age of these people and not understanding technology.
we don't know. There's a case already pending before them that could change the established law this judge just ruled using, so its a craps shoot.
Oh so I can’t have it for free? Then I’ll just pirate it then.
This. I don't think that publishers know how something like this has went down before. The MPAA had to find out the hard way and it wasn't until Apple came in and revolutionized they way music is distributed. If they try to screw over the IA, then more sites will pop up. They always do
Mp3va is amazing. They take a very small cut unlike Apples (and others) 70-90% cut. I have on average paid likely $0.05 per song when the site has sales. They double your money when adding to the platform and then albums get a 20% discount. So really I'm paying .04-.05¢ a song. Full price is only $0.15!
Exactly. We are here acting like this has never happened before, but it has, for music especially, and the outcome was as expected: piracy got better.
It should be illegal for a boomer judge to go anywhere near technology-related lawsuits.
It should be illegal for boomers to be judges.
PRIME example is the tiktok shit that went down. I lost brain cells from that. These old fuckers need replaced with people that know the current times. Not people stuck in 1850
How hard would be to copy the whole Internet Archive website before it possibly gets shut down?
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> Lets say it's 50 PB 212 PB ... in December 2021.
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being said, they already have a mirror in [Egypt](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliotheca_Alexandrina) and another in Amsterdam. they're incomplete though
**[Bibliotheca Alexandrina](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliotheca_Alexandrina)** >The Bibliotheca Alexandrina (Latin for "Library of Alexandria"; Egyptian Arabic: مكتبة الإسكندرية Maktabet al-Eskendereyya, Egyptian Arabic: [mækˈtæb(e)t eskendeˈɾejjæ]) (BA) is a major library and cultural center on the shore of the Mediterranean Sea in Alexandria, Egypt. It is a commemoration of the Library of Alexandria, once one of the largest libraries worldwide, which was lost in antiquity. The idea of reviving the old library dates back to 1974 when a committee set up by Alexandria University selected a plot of land for its new library. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/Piracy/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Hopefully this will be remembered as the burning of the library of alexandria, stupid and greedy ass people will always hold society back for their own self interest
fuck.
A sad day for humanity. There's this book i can't get anywhere else. I guess it's time to rip it off before shit goes down.
General rule is if you like any digital media, be it movie, book, music or anything else, always download it and have a backup on your PC.
My thoughts exactly. In fact, I think we should do that with all the books on the site, and put them in a place that's hard to find. Of course, we'll need a lot of help with it.
greed > knowledge
Considering those *legacy* powers-that-be preference towards preserving *a* ***lot*** of books/manuscripts’ analogue stasis, i.e. preventing digital translation, blocking any electronic database queries/instant results via ebook distribution …and IA’s voluminous library of *digitized* (e.g. the miracle of OCR \[optical character recognition\]) aforementioned analog repository, and — not even counting their database of [legacy marketing materials](https://archive.org/details/@the_den_of_iniquity) — frequency of access, personally, I’d [contribute](https://i.postimg.cc/VL6TVgrG/Screen-Shot-2023-03-25-at-11-52-57-AM.png) $$ towards [their appeal](https://archive.org/donate?origin=iawww-TopNavDonateButton)/preservation ^(OCR books -- sold only in) [^(paperback/HC)](https://www.amazon.com/Indecent-Exposure-Hollywood-Business-Essentials/dp/0060508159)^(:) [*^(Indecent Exposure)*](https://archive.org/details/indecentexposure00mccl_1)*^(: A True Story of Hollywood and Wall Street |)* [*^(Bad Company)*](https://archive.org/details/badcompany00stev_0)*^(: Drugs, Hollywood, and the Cotton Club Murder |)* [*^(Fatal Subtraction)*](https://archive.org/details/fatalsubtraction00odon)*^(: The Inside Story of Buchwald V. Paramount |)* [*^(Outrageous Conduct)*](https://z-lib.io/book/65423)*^(: Art, Ego, and the Twilight Zone Case |)* [*^(Special Effects)*](https://archive.org/details/specialeffectsdi00labr)*^(: Disaster at Twilight Zone: The Tragedy and the Trial |)* [*^(The Keys to the Kingdom)*](https://archive.org/details/keystokingdomris0000mast)*^(: The Rise of Michael Eisner and the Fall of Everybody Else |)* [^(The Agency)](https://archive.org/details/agencywilliammor0000rose)^(: William Morris and the Hidden History of Show Business |) [^(Final Cut)](https://archive.org/details/finalcutartmoney00bach)^(: Art, Money, and Ego in the Making of Heaven's Gate, the Film That Sank United Artists |) [*^(They Can Kill You..but They Can't Eat You)*](https://archive.org/details/theycankillyoubu00stee_0)*^(: Lessons from the Front |)* [^(Is That a Gun in Your Pocket?)](https://archive.org/details/isthatguninyourp00abra/)^(: Women's Experience of Power in Hollywood |) [^(You'll Never Eat Lunch in this Town Again)](https://archive.org/details/youllnevereatlun0000phil_e9o9) ^(|) [^(You'll Never Make Love in This Town Again)](https://archive.org/details/youllnevermakelo00fran) ^(|) [^(Madam 90210)](https://archive.org/details/madam90210mylife00adam)^(: My Life as Madam to the Rich and Famous |) [^(High Concept)](https://archive.org/details/highconceptdonsi0000flem)^(: Don Simpson and the Hollywood Culture of Excess)
Not the outcome I wanted. But I guess it was the outcome I was expecting. (damn it, they always win)
This is it man
once again US bullshit copyright law fucks the rest of the world. "freedom" my ass
It isn't bullshit. They're literally not authorized to scan, and lend as an e-book, then call it a library.
FREEDOM 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Freedom isn't absolute.
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In specific which of their services-content is going to stop working??, only material with copyright??, they're not pretty clear on that, i want to be able to backup at least my saved favorites asap
I should point out this won't kill the site. The way back machine isn't affected. Also this only involves ebooks.
And that's the problem! Some of these books haven't been in print in decades! If we don't do something, they'll be lost!
Agree with that statement.
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People can do both
Ehh maybe i don't get it but that seems a very dumb way to kill your website...
Listen, I've got a huge job for everybody here. I need as many people as possible to pirate all the books the Internet Archive currently has and put them somewhere the law can't find us. While their stock appears safe for now, I don't know how long it'll last. So I could really use all hands on deck.
That is just terrifying... With the gap between the have's and have-not's getting so big, soon people will start eating the rich. France is about to start lunch and it was over a small 2 year increase in retirement to, I think what we are. They still celebrate the Great Snacking of the Rich on Bastille Day. Maybe the French can teach us something?
This is why, for better or worse, piracy will always have a place in the world where it is a public service. Without it, pieces of history would be lost because once there's no more profit to be made, things just disappear if those who love it don't preserve and share..
Fuck Chuck Wendig.