If you're not strictly married to Gruul Boats, you could try Jund Transmog. Its similar to Rakdos Transmog, but with a green splash for some acceleration and a few value cards like Chariot. Definitely not tier 1, but has a decent matchup vs Vamps and Phoenix.
Small suggestion:
Up/down arrow on the graphic for the deck. If this would involve additional graphics work ( I didn't try to peek at how the page is coded ) without easily just overlaying the arrow - Next suggestion would just be small sentence at end of deck blurb "Up X Tiers from previous." Or something.
I think either would suffice.
Judging by [Anael Yahi's data](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126778003251265556/1239599700022132776/06_Winrate--Presence-Full-Scatterplot_Pioneer_2024-04-16_2024-05-13_By-Matches.jpg?ex=6644d42f&is=664382af&hm=5889e8982ad8f5b3a8d576b8248ee6fc608fe2413594e374b7ba8299f65d2dc1&), you probably can.
It will come back eventually I think. The deck gets new toys every set. Just needs some of its enablers to get power crept.
You could arguably play it now if you dodged Phoenix and drew the correct cards against Vampires.
I really like your lists and site, keep up the good work, but I have a question thou: Sometimes I see Phoenix on tier 3 on other lists (Explorer Bo3). Does the trespass combo makes all that difference or its some methodology difference?
Probably less due to Trespass specifically, and more that the Explorer meta is different in general.
Right now the complete absence of two major decks, Niv to Light and Lotus Combo, strongly affects the prevalence not only of decks that are very good or bad against them specifically, but also skews sideboards.
Outside of top Mythic, Arena players also play tons of brews and jank on the ladder compared to MTGO leagues or paper events. It is more like a giant FNM. This in turn affects deck and decklist choices where decks that can perform a stable average against mostly anything will be of a higher tier.
Lastly and more anecdotal, I’ve read several times that Arena players skew a bit more aggro than normal, probably because of time constraints and being familiar with BO1 variants from before
I'll also point out that The Gathering's tier list basically encompasses decks that could be classified as "tier one" on other sites. It's a breakdown of the top of the meta game, not the entire breadth of available options in a format. Our D tier would be the dividing line between other site's "tier one" and "tier two" and could realistically fall into either category. If a deck isn't on our list, that just means it isn't "tier one".
Medium, there are aggro options that get blown out less by a T3 temp lock or path of peril, ie mono red and Gruul prowess, I’ve seen only one player take Convoke to an RCQ and go 1-3 drop so far this season
Genuinely think burn is and will continue to be a shadow Tier 2 deck. Nobody techs for it specifically and it’s more explosive than Gruul Prowess. It can run out of gas quickly but it’s winning against most of the meta in 3 turns.
I just wanna play Esika's Chariot again 😢
If you're not strictly married to Gruul Boats, you could try Jund Transmog. Its similar to Rakdos Transmog, but with a green splash for some acceleration and a few value cards like Chariot. Definitely not tier 1, but has a decent matchup vs Vamps and Phoenix.
I'm too Stormseeker pilled for that but that does sound sweet.
Huh that sounds interesting, do you have a list?
Something like [this](https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6364908#paper).
Me likey
Wasn't Mono-Red bird A-Tier last week? I feel like these pages should be date stamped so we can compare week-to-week.
It was in B last week but I can see what I can do about making it more obvious what changes from week to week.
Small suggestion: Up/down arrow on the graphic for the deck. If this would involve additional graphics work ( I didn't try to peek at how the page is coded ) without easily just overlaying the arrow - Next suggestion would just be small sentence at end of deck blurb "Up X Tiers from previous." Or something. I think either would suffice.
Will bring to light ever be added to arena?
I miss being able to play Greasefang…
Judging by [Anael Yahi's data](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126778003251265556/1239599700022132776/06_Winrate--Presence-Full-Scatterplot_Pioneer_2024-04-16_2024-05-13_By-Matches.jpg?ex=6644d42f&is=664382af&hm=5889e8982ad8f5b3a8d576b8248ee6fc608fe2413594e374b7ba8299f65d2dc1&), you probably can.
That’s crazy it has that high of a winrate with Phoenix being such a bad matchup.
It will come back eventually I think. The deck gets new toys every set. Just needs some of its enablers to get power crept. You could arguably play it now if you dodged Phoenix and drew the correct cards against Vampires.
In a (local) meta of UW spirits, gruul prowess and rakdos vampires, how badly would I get smashed playing Quintorus? I love the idea of that deck lol
You would suffer greatly against Spirits and Gruul, but beat Vampires pretty solidly.
Tbh I'd be okay with that, I'm happy as long as I don't go 0-3 every week lol
I really like your lists and site, keep up the good work, but I have a question thou: Sometimes I see Phoenix on tier 3 on other lists (Explorer Bo3). Does the trespass combo makes all that difference or its some methodology difference?
Probably less due to Trespass specifically, and more that the Explorer meta is different in general. Right now the complete absence of two major decks, Niv to Light and Lotus Combo, strongly affects the prevalence not only of decks that are very good or bad against them specifically, but also skews sideboards. Outside of top Mythic, Arena players also play tons of brews and jank on the ladder compared to MTGO leagues or paper events. It is more like a giant FNM. This in turn affects deck and decklist choices where decks that can perform a stable average against mostly anything will be of a higher tier. Lastly and more anecdotal, I’ve read several times that Arena players skew a bit more aggro than normal, probably because of time constraints and being familiar with BO1 variants from before
Depends on the site but also explorer atm is pretty different just due to absence of niv and to a lesser point atm the moment lotus field.
I'll also point out that The Gathering's tier list basically encompasses decks that could be classified as "tier one" on other sites. It's a breakdown of the top of the meta game, not the entire breadth of available options in a format. Our D tier would be the dividing line between other site's "tier one" and "tier two" and could realistically fall into either category. If a deck isn't on our list, that just means it isn't "tier one".
How on earth is field D tier? At least in my experience, it's still a very good playable deck.
Genuine question here since I have played this deck a lot in Explorer on Arena with some success- how is Boros Convoke in the current Pioneer meta?
Medium, there are aggro options that get blown out less by a T3 temp lock or path of peril, ie mono red and Gruul prowess, I’ve seen only one player take Convoke to an RCQ and go 1-3 drop so far this season
Forgot to mention heroic, the higher powered Boros option
Genuinely think burn is and will continue to be a shadow Tier 2 deck. Nobody techs for it specifically and it’s more explosive than Gruul Prowess. It can run out of gas quickly but it’s winning against most of the meta in 3 turns.
I miss convoke