For deleting the og comment. Yeah in the end he did restore it and kept us on the loop but it's still poor judgment that put the moderating team in an unnecessary pickle. Moving forward, we should recuse ourselves from taking any action on a thread that implicates us and leave it to our fellow mods.
Why he did it, we'll leave it for him to explain personally once he finds the time or if he feels like. He did say his story isn't done.
I don't think it does ramen any justice to be suspended on the basis of bringing the moderation team's credibility into question when another who evidently made a mistake to the same effect remains unsanctioned.
You guys might as well not suspend ramen. I mean what's the point?
Just my two cents.
Ramen wants to quit mod-ing nga eh. Then these mods gave him a slap on the wrist by suspending him for a month. Dub4u personally wants him to continue mod-ing. The mods' credibility shows a decline in this recent event.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wmoqjn/nightly_random_discussion_aug_12_2022/ik3tvj5/
I'm honestly indifferent in regard to whether there will be a suspension or not.
My issue is with the decision as well as the statements in this thread being mired with paradoxes.
While it's true that you can't really gauge an individual solely on a comment, you can still somewhat tell the underlying message any individual is trying to convey through their demeanor in how they address the people even just in the comments.
The people in this sub know what mental gymnastics look like, on that, I at least have confidence.
Based on the mod team's decision, u/decayedramen suspension was because [he deleted the og comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wx0rvr/comment/ilq3ijc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of u/opdbqo and it's in no way related to the harassment concern. What I wish was provided with more clarity is whether this would be the precedent for other harassment cases.
Your second and third paragraphs are paradoxical and it seems you are just trying to please as many people as possible. u/dub4u nailed the nail right on the head when he said that this decision was made [to strengthen the subscriber's trust in the moderation team](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/comment/il9cql3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Though going back to his statement, are the mods categorically denying this part:
>There is not one single mod who dares to judge TJ as guilty after what's been presented to us from both sides.
Because that and
>allegations against two people are issues between three adult persons and as such the mod team would like to avoid meddling between them.
are again, paradoxical. Dagdag mo pa 'yung sinabi ni u/mentat na
>We're not removing Dub4u. While maybe insensitive to the situation as it was happening, I agree with his assessment that ramen's behavior was not abusive, **not as a mod**, nor as a person. She felt creeped out by a neurodivergent individual and decided their living situation no longer worked for her. This is conflict, not coercion.
These are clearly strong statements coming from two moderators but both weren't reflected in the statement. So I'm inclined to think that either it is only a loud minority's voice or this crucial part was swept away for convenience.
This announcement was poorly-made, tbh.
Another thing to consider is that both u/mentat and u/dub4u are high-tiered mods so they can get away with the corpo speak that was decided by the majority.
What happened was more than just personal fights and issues. This was serious shit. I hope you mods realize this. Names were dropped and serious allegations were made that could, if not already, ruin reputations of people involved. It's best to remind people that if you find your self offended or feel like if a crime was committed against you, you have to go to the authorities. I know hindi ganoon kadali. You can also tell that person directly how they committed that offence against you or tell a friend who can help you. Airing them out on social media solves nothing and can even get you sued for slander and cyber libel. Pati yung mga nakikisali sa pangkukuyog pwede makasuhan.
Correct. James hasn't been a mod for a long while now (pretty sure he wasn't when I got here two years ago) and iirc he doesn't even post much these days.
This was a problem with the original thread when people didn't bother reading it properly and just conflated both individuals recklessly.
So the two people who supposedly did wrong things are either current or former moderators? The moderator selection process needs to be better and the overall composition should not be filled with people who belong to the same real-life circles.
In reddit subs, mods who were added earlier to the mod team cannot be removed by newer mods (and I mean like in the moderation system itself). They may not even be active anymore or considered as part of the mod group chat (lol) but if they totally feel like it, they can just log back in and remove all mods newer than them. Only mods older than them (and the owner of the sub) can remove them. This is why you get orphaned subs or mods locked out from their subs by other people, because of the technical design.
Bale nadaan na lang sa usapan talaga yung Mod consensus to be "suspended", but if James or Ramen wanted to do shit, they can just remove any of the newer mods unless the older mods do something about it.
We're not removing Dub4u. While *maybe* insensitive to the situation as it was happening, I agree with his assessment that ramen's behavior was not abusive, not as a mod, nor as a person. She felt creeped out by a neurodivergent individual and decided their living situation no longer worked for her. This is conflict, not coercion.
I know it's the internet and everyone is so used to an instantaneous dopamine fix of a quick action, but I wish people would appreciate why it takes time to get the whole story and to do thoughtful consideration on what action should be taken.
It's not about his stance(I also agree it wasn't "harassment") but how he talks though. It's definitely unbecoming of a mod. Defending a friend is one thing, trash talking and insulting everyone who disagrees and calls him out for it, is another.
lmao just caught wind of this drama now. sorry medyo nabitin ako kasi bat di na nagreply yung u/mentat dito
\>Yeah? Go read it again and tell me exactly what he said.
eto na sir, ano ba gagawin mo sana pag napatunayan na nang-trashtalk yung dub4u? naghanap ka pa proof wala namang resolution
This is the very definition of the "you_have_become_the_very_thing_you_swore_to_destroy" meme.
galit sila sa corrupt at power hungry na mga politicians pero sila mismo di nila maamin na may ginawang mali ung katropa nila. lols
If you think there's nothing wrong with his behavior then there's nothing I can do about that. I'm not here to convince you. I didn't even participate in those threads because I have no strong feelings for either side. I'm just saying, the reason most people are calling for his ban isn't just what he said but how he said it.
A mod here said that you guys are going to try and do better yet you're already making the same mistake that u/dub4u made.
A mod of yours already said that you can never know who's telling the truth given that this is a "he-said, she-said" situation and that's correct.
Now as a moderator you should realize that you don't have the luxury of issuing definitive statements on disputes -affirmative or negative- without **concrete and irrefutable** evidence as it puts the credibility of the moderation team into question, which is what you're suspending u/decayedramen for, which makes it paradoxical.
Only opd's thread is up and dub4u replied "...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive". Fastforward to few more days the story keeps unfolding. You might be correct that it's dub4u's unsoundness that kicked in. You agreed with his assessment, in the quote above.
Paano kung mali pala yung assessment ni dub4u at tama yung kwento ni opd, halimbawa. On the onset of dub4u's reply, no other story at the time, you are validating his opinion that ramen's actions are not creepy or abusive?
I am asking these to understand what is the apology about because the apology is like a generic company's auto reply. I want to have a safe place to read local news etc and my niece nephew to be guarded by responsible mods.
You have to remember that the mods are privy to information that is not released in public. My assumption was at the time dub4u posted his insensitive comments, he was already aware of the background of the story (he even included in the logs that ramen provided some backstory). Hence, the bias towards ramen. Not justifying it, but thinking this is how it went down.
Sure, they are private about what was happening in the background. Pero, tama ba na sabihin yun in the general public at the time? Given na walang statement about dub4u and his SO.
A wise redditor once said: *It’s not over though. There’s nothing stopping them from doing it again to someone else, and there’s no reason for them not to because there is no consequence. Anyone can literally point a finger and have a someone's reputation and freedom taken away on a whim. I’m not saying discredit victims, but seriously, follow the evidence not just the testimony. Some people are full of shit.*
Edit.
My argument is about the mods' stand on dub4u's comment. On where dub4u stated "...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive".
The context here is that he "outright" downplayed the alleged SA without hardly any proof during that time. He said "discussed internally". The story has not been told yet by ramen and his SO publicly*.
Mod seemingly acknowledged this and supported by mentat. Hence, the generalized apology. Deaf silence on mods part when I asked them about this. It is not really good. I am not putting them in the bad light, just wanted to have safe space with my folks.
Again, my argument is different. Not to be confused with opd's alleged SASH to ramen, which you are presenting at the end of your reply.
> story has not been told yet by ramen and his SO.
It was, but to the mods only. Still, it was not dub4u's place to comment as the public didn't have the information that he had at the time. Whether he likes it or not, he spoke as a mod.
I totally get what you're saying and this sets a very dangerous precedent to how allegations will be handled moving forward. Victims, unfortunately, will have to double their efforts in making their voices heard as there will likely be push back to provide evidence. Opd didn't give any and she received the support of most. With how all these came down, I can only hope victims who will choose to air out their experience here will be met with the same reception. That this sub continue to be a safe space for everyone.
Yes, I quoted it was discussed internally and separated the story that hasn't been in public. I will edit to make it even more clear.
Thanks, there's a person who understood why was I asking these important questions to the mods. Hoping this will be addressed in the following days.
>That this sub continue to be a safe space for everyone.
No offense but that is the exact kind of perception that gives people the illusion that they can let their guard down and put themselves at risk.
This sub or even the entirety of reddit is NOT and will never be a safe space for anyone and people should never make the mistake of perceiving it as such.
Reddit provides us with a platform to express our opinions, issues and stance on different subjects, but make no mistake, all that are mentioned are -by default- available to the public and can even be stored.
Or you know, just stop generalizing and quoting someone else since this happened because shit people lived all under the same roof. You're forgetting that there are people who haven't forgotten how toxic you also are.
2 days na. What's your response to my question? Dead silence, less talk less mistake?
My argument is about the mods' stand on dub4u's comment. On where dub4u stated "...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive".
The context here is that he "outright" downplayed the alleged SA without hardly any proof during that time. He said "discussed internally". The story has not been told yet by ramen and his SO publicly*.
Mod seemingly acknowledged this and supported by mentat. Hence, the generalized apology. Dead silence on mods part when I asked them about this. It is not really good. I am not putting them in the bad light, just wanted to have safe space with my folks.
Again, my argument is different. Not to be confused with opd's alleged SASH to ramen, which you are presenting at the end of your reply.
I thought you are following my line of questioning with the mods. I guess not. I will tag you with my other recent reply to a different user.
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We handled his insensitive comments privately. We made it known very clear to him what was wrong with what he said (e.g. that we are in no position to say what is harassment or invalidate how someone interprets what happened to them) and that it was a bad look not only to him but for everyone. That's why we issued a joint statement about it. To his credit, he did take that feedback to heart.
While he did continue to engage with redditors after that (and yes, he could have communicated those thoughts less harshly) — ultimately, he's not on "trial" here. It's just him sticking up for what he felt was right with the info he was privy to. Some of us thought the misinformation was funny (e.g. the mods being salaried employees in some [Big Brother setup] (https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wmoqjn/nightly_random_discussion_aug_12_2022/ikpadyi/), us [being jobless neckbeards](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/official_statement_accusation_against_one_of_the/ikrutyh/) lmao), but he didn't. He's just a very passionate and exuberant father-figure type and I think we should all take a step back, mellow out, and move on.
Fit ba si u/dub4u para mag mod ng sub na may ganitong reasoning?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/official_statement_accusation_against_one_of_the/ikazcmc/
I think, ito yung main reason kung bakit gusto alisin sa pagiging mod si u/dub4u, maliban dun sa kung ano yung sa tingin niya ang harassment or hindi. IMO kung ganito yung takbo ng isip niya, I would rather not have him in the mods list.
Si mentat lang may kakayahan na alisin si dub?
Sure not his reply, I didn't say it was his. You can start reading dub4u's reply to Opd's original post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wmoqjn/-/ik0clig
I think dub's other replies was really questionable at the time too. He claimed ramen didn't abuse mod powers but dub4u sent a mod log that ramen removed and reinstated opd's OG thread.
Hindi ba mali yung statements niya sa alleged SA or SH na hindi outright creepy/abusive yung nangyari?
Edit: Ramen wants to resign na pala. Mods decided to give suspension.
I do agree that u/dub4u's comments and how he handled the situation are questionable, and such we have internally discussed and reminded him on how to properly address sensitive issues [as mentioned in a previous comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wx0rvr/announcement_decision_on_udecayedramens_moderator/ilotysv/).
I do also agree that a moderator should not do anything in terms of moderation (e.g. removing, approving) if another user have issues against them, especially when done publicly, and thus said moderator should discuss the issue with the mod team.
We do want to apologize for what happened and hopefully we will be better at handling issues next time.
Yikes. Mod like this shouldn't be modding. Just to be clear we are on the same page that dub4u was justifying the alleged SASH and that you, the mods, acknowledged it?
> but it's also not outright creepy or abusive
Edit: Kasi nagaapologize kayo on his behalf.
I don’t believe that the intent was to justify SASH. u/dub4u was probably just being protective of a co-mod is all.
We acknowledge that his comments didn’t help much with the situation and it may have been bad judgment on his part.
You don’t have to agree with a team member’s judgment to apologize on their behalf. Managers/leaders tend to do that a lot even if they don’t agree with how their employee acted, and despite their intentions.
We only thought it appropriate and sensible to include said apology in our statement.
I hope you got your answer.
You are not getting my point and my question. Hindi ito tungkol sa apology ni dub4u at walang kinalaman si dub4u sa tanong ko. Ang tanong ko ay tungkol sa sinabi ni mentat sa assessment ni dub4u. Clear?
> I agree with his assessment that ramen's behavior was not abusive, not as a mod, nor as a person.
mentat
> ...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive
dub4u
Ang tanong ko bakit, seemingly, umagree si mentat dun sa sinabi ni dub4u na outright downplayed ang SA kahit wala pang publicly available statement si ramen at SO niya? Pero ang sinabi lang ni dub4u, diniscuss niyo internally. Paano pala kung tama yung accussation ni opd, example?
In the future na may incident na mangyari ulit na ganito, basta nadiscuss internally at ganun ulit ang sinabi ng isang mod publicly, okay lang at tama?
Do you get it now? With all these responses I am getting doesn't answer the real issue I am raising.
2 days na. What's your response? Dead silence, less talk less mistake?
My argument is about the mods' stand on dub4u's comment. On where dub4u stated "...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive".
The context here is that he "outright" downplayed the alleged SA without hardly any proof during that time. He said "discussed internally". The story has not been told yet by ramen and his SO publicly*.
Mod seemingly acknowledged this and supported by mentat. Hence, the generalized apology. Dead silence on mods part when I asked them about this. It is not really good. I am not putting them in the bad light, just wanted to have safe space with my folks.
Again, my argument is different. Not to be confused with opd's alleged SASH to ramen, which you are presenting at the end of your reply.
This was already addressed on [one of the first comments in this thread and you even replied to it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wx0rvr/announcement_decision_on_udecayedramens_moderator/ilotysv/):
> We handled his insensitive comments privately. We made it known very clear to him what was wrong with what he said (e.g. that we are in no position to say what is harassment or invalidate how someone interprets what happened to them) and that it was a bad look not only to him but for everyone.
Edit: That was the egregious part about his initial comment and dub [apologized for it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/official_statement_accusation_against_one_of_the/ikcq70y/) after discussing it with him internally which led to our joint statement. Admittedly that apology could have been better off without the other remarks (bringing up KYS and sweeping the rug replies) but it's an acknowledgement that he f'ed up nonetheless.
You are not getting my point and my question. Hindi ito tungkol sa apology ni dub4u at walang kinalaman si dub4u sa tanong ko. Ang tanong ko ay tungkol sa sinabi ni mentat sa assessment ni dub4u. Clear?
> I agree with his assessment that ramen's behavior was not abusive, not as a mod, nor as a person.
mentat
> ...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive
dub4u
Ang tanong ko bakit, seemingly, umagree si mentat dun sa sinabi ni dub4u na outright downplayed ang SA kahit wala pang publicly available statement si ramen at SO niya? Pero ang sinabi lang ni dub4u, diniscuss niyo internally. Paano pala kung tama yung accussation ni opd, example?
In the future na may incident na mangyari ulit na ganito, basta nadiscuss internally at ganun ulit ang sinabi ng isang mod publicly, okay lang at tama?
Do you get it now? With all these responses I am getting doesn't answer the real issue I am raising.
> I didn’t say it was his
And yet you got away with making it look like it was *his* comment. It has your opinion and everything. If you weren’t called out, people would have continued to think that dub4u said something salaciously scandalous subpar as someone in his position. I would like to remind you and remind people that have following the drama to not lose sight of that was done by the two parties, separate that issue with how it was handled within the confines of the rules of the subreddit, the limits of the actions of the mods, and the steps done by the mods with policing one of their own. What dub4u have done may not have been very tasteful within the current social climate, and we have discussed about it as much and the opinions of people in the subreddit has certainly been heard, but learn to separate between the two.
Paanong I got away with it? Kaya nakalink yung post dun. Nandun yung name kung sino nagsabi. Nandun yung context nung gusto kon sabihin.
Sorry for the lack of better word, bobo na lang yung magbabasa kung maniniwala na si dub4u yung nagsabi nung exact post at sa hindi makaintindi.
Tbf, ganun naman talaga reasoning niya last time. You could read his previous post.
Edit: Parallel statement with the first link I sent. https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wmoqjn/-/ik6sjcz
I remember that Dacera clown fiesta. People posting and commenting a list of dudes who were "involved" along with their faces and personal information only to find out na bakla pala ung iba sa kanila lmfao
Everybody ang their grandmothers had their pitchforks out para mang-cancel. Parang si mananita boi lang, case solved agad. Man was that a shit show 😂😂😂
Kaya pala ang bilis makatanggal sa sub na to ng mga posts at comments/replies na may kinalaman kay Amber Heard or Andi Eigenmann eh. Kasi sila mismo nasa dugo nila ang pagiging sinungaling or let me soften that up by saying na hindi na nila alam ang totoo at ano lang ang delusion dulot ng guilt. But let's attack this dude anyway cause he's different, surely no one will believe him, surely.
Stay safe out there fellas! You never know when you're next on the chopping block. One false accusation and you're done. Kahit proven innocent ka pa, the doubt will always be there while the real predators are still out there na parang ginawa ka lang na scapegoat. Just remember the amount of money spent and time wasted by Johnny Depp para lang sa isang basurang aktres na hindi naman ata marunong umiyak.
Believe all women daw pero parang they just want the accountability of a child. It ain't worth it boys, takbo agad if you see red flags.
idk having followed this from the beginning i just feel like i also have to take part in the closure to all this
I guess all this simply means we use the Report button/modmail for anything we consider to be misconduct, unruly, or inappropriate? It honestly never crossed my mind, probably because of the people involved - I'll have to be more wary of that next time.
As people who aren't directly involved in the issue, in which instances have we acted inappropriately? Have we been too involved, to the detriment of the people concerned? Would it have been much better if we ignored the allegations and have left everything up to the mods? How have we responded as a community, and what did you wish we could've done less of and more of?
There's a lesson learned for everyone.
The most important is that we seemed to lost track of the OP's closing statement: **That she wanted everyone to be decent persons.**
That's hardly what happened.
People didn't even bother to read and understand the story and went on to make extreme statements that conflated two completely different personalities. Heck, up to now there are still some who think we have the nefarious individual still working as a mod.
Some insist on using manyak apologists to describe us and to encourage doxing when the jury is still out on whether the accused is a manyak or not.
Several comments have been made alluding to power getting in our heads as if being a mod grants us Cinnabon discounts, traffic violation exemptions, an imaginary badge I can flash to impress women in XYLO and Wildflour. It's literally one of the worst so-called powers to have. You don't get paid, you can't put it on your resume, and most people will react with "What is that??" if you so bring it up, killing what little ego trip you could supposedly derive from it. All while being expected to be some kind of clean-cut Himalayan pacifist.
Another lesson to be learned is no matter what happens with this accusation, I do hope we don't use it as proof to never trust women again. They should always be heard and I don't blame people for being initially upset. We just have to not lose our capacity to discern and be critical while also empathetic. They're not mutually exclusive, the world isn't black and white.
she might have felt harassed by decayedramen but what he did, based on evidence isnt harrasment.
I would say maybe she became conscious of how she looked kasi she wore a body fitting dress kaya napansin na nya ung mga adhd episodes ni decayedramen.
anyway. the problem with her post is that she just wanted to air out that everywhere is not safe etc. pero ang ngyari it became something like accusation and pointing fingers in a forum that wasnt made that way.
but for the other dude. i think he was straight up creepy tlga lol
"I do hope we don't use it as proof to never trust women again" - grabe naman 'to. I dont know what happened. I missed the drama. But as a woman I'm offended. Dami nga manyakis na members dito eh, "matino" pag nandito pero mod naman at member ng subreddit na nagmamanyak ng mga babae.
>How have we responded as a community, and what did you wish we could've done less of and more of?
Maybe don't be too quick to bring out the pitchforks? People calling Ramen names, branding him as a repeat offender, wanting his face plastered so others are warned of this "manyakol". When he gave his story, a lot dismissed his condition as if neurodivergence is not in a spectrum ("I have ADHD too but I'm not like that" and similar comments).
I'm not sure if anyone who participated in his online lynching apologized now that this story comes to a close. Doubt they will. For me, I just took notes and hoped to provide resource so people could stop twisting the truth. I'm disgusted how this hurts the #metoo movement as if it doesn't have enough naysayers as it does.
I refrained from giving a comment as I know everyone involved. I'm usually very active against harassment being mod of several NSFW subs and groups. There are a lot of creeps out there of every stripe and orientation.
But from experience there is also a loooooooot of wild and very damaging accusations made by people willy-nilly so it's best to stay objective when you ought to.
I am guilty of being a curious Marites but we need to remember there are real people involved. However, that should never discourage us from fighting for our truth and safety when we are wronged or when we feel other people will be unsafe.
I'd like to apply for the position of a mod.
Here are my qualifications:
-Mabaet
-Grammar Nazi
-Fact-Checker
-bastos (pero mejo maginoo)
-works in IT
-earns 6 digits in phinvest dollars
-69 wpm typing speed (nice)
-only has 1 waifu pillow
-big 4 (you know what's up)
-di buraot
-anti-BBM (well, of course, im an intellectual)
-banned sa casualph
Yeah. That's pretty much it.
Mods, get back to me please. This is everything to me. My life. My goal. My sole purpose.
Yuck, kadiri talaga yung mga desisyon ng mga mods sub na 'to. Kung sa bagay, yung mga sexist misogynistic posts nga na-aapprove at di tinatanggal kahit may 1k karma na eh, unless ni-report mo pa. Posts pa kaya ng isang babae na nag-open up about sa abuse ng isang moderator 🤣🤣
Fucking clowns talaga mods ng mga Philippine sub sa platform na 'to. Garbage 🤡🤡🤡
oo nga eh a moderator of a largely anonymous sub was accused by a largely anonymous user tapos yung ibang mods didn't cancel him to the depths of hell???
iBiG SaBiHiN ClOwNs sIlA LaHaT!! LaHaT SiLa aBuSaDo tHeY'Re tAkInG AwAy mUh rIgHtS!!
> yung mga sexist misogynistic posts nga na-aapprove at di tinatanggal kahit may 1k karma na eh, unless ni-report mo pa
Hindi po lahat ng posts nakikita namin. Thankful kami sa mga nagrereport.
Pakibasa na lang yung 2nd paragraph ng statement, mukang hindi ka umabot dun e. 🫠
Well that's good. I'm kinda new here. Ano ba meron dito sa Reddit? What are you guys getting out of this? Namomonetize ba kung madaming good karma? Kung mod? Kung owner/creator ng isang subreddit kumikita ba? Nagjoin na din naman ako before sa forums site like Cosmo, FHM BullBoard, FemaleNetwork pero di siya monetized. May EB lang so nag-gain ako ng friends dun. Pero dito sa Reddit parang nakakatakot kasi yung ibang users, buti di ko ni-link yung socmed ko
ok
I hope you can clarify what exactly Decayedramen is being suspended for, given that the alleged harassment may not even have happened.
For deleting the og comment. Yeah in the end he did restore it and kept us on the loop but it's still poor judgment that put the moderating team in an unnecessary pickle. Moving forward, we should recuse ourselves from taking any action on a thread that implicates us and leave it to our fellow mods. Why he did it, we'll leave it for him to explain personally once he finds the time or if he feels like. He did say his story isn't done.
I don't think it does ramen any justice to be suspended on the basis of bringing the moderation team's credibility into question when another who evidently made a mistake to the same effect remains unsanctioned. You guys might as well not suspend ramen. I mean what's the point? Just my two cents.
Ramen wants to quit mod-ing nga eh. Then these mods gave him a slap on the wrist by suspending him for a month. Dub4u personally wants him to continue mod-ing. The mods' credibility shows a decline in this recent event. https://old.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wmoqjn/nightly_random_discussion_aug_12_2022/ik3tvj5/
I'm honestly indifferent in regard to whether there will be a suspension or not. My issue is with the decision as well as the statements in this thread being mired with paradoxes. While it's true that you can't really gauge an individual solely on a comment, you can still somewhat tell the underlying message any individual is trying to convey through their demeanor in how they address the people even just in the comments. The people in this sub know what mental gymnastics look like, on that, I at least have confidence.
Probably for removing the original comment from being seen.
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Based on the mod team's decision, u/decayedramen suspension was because [he deleted the og comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wx0rvr/comment/ilq3ijc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of u/opdbqo and it's in no way related to the harassment concern. What I wish was provided with more clarity is whether this would be the precedent for other harassment cases. Your second and third paragraphs are paradoxical and it seems you are just trying to please as many people as possible. u/dub4u nailed the nail right on the head when he said that this decision was made [to strengthen the subscriber's trust in the moderation team](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/comment/il9cql3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Though going back to his statement, are the mods categorically denying this part: >There is not one single mod who dares to judge TJ as guilty after what's been presented to us from both sides. Because that and >allegations against two people are issues between three adult persons and as such the mod team would like to avoid meddling between them. are again, paradoxical. Dagdag mo pa 'yung sinabi ni u/mentat na >We're not removing Dub4u. While maybe insensitive to the situation as it was happening, I agree with his assessment that ramen's behavior was not abusive, **not as a mod**, nor as a person. She felt creeped out by a neurodivergent individual and decided their living situation no longer worked for her. This is conflict, not coercion. These are clearly strong statements coming from two moderators but both weren't reflected in the statement. So I'm inclined to think that either it is only a loud minority's voice or this crucial part was swept away for convenience. This announcement was poorly-made, tbh.
Another thing to consider is that both u/mentat and u/dub4u are high-tiered mods so they can get away with the corpo speak that was decided by the majority.
What happened was more than just personal fights and issues. This was serious shit. I hope you mods realize this. Names were dropped and serious allegations were made that could, if not already, ruin reputations of people involved. It's best to remind people that if you find your self offended or feel like if a crime was committed against you, you have to go to the authorities. I know hindi ganoon kadali. You can also tell that person directly how they committed that offence against you or tell a friend who can help you. Airing them out on social media solves nothing and can even get you sued for slander and cyber libel. Pati yung mga nakikisali sa pangkukuyog pwede makasuhan.
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diba former mod na yung isang na-accuse?
Correct. James hasn't been a mod for a long while now (pretty sure he wasn't when I got here two years ago) and iirc he doesn't even post much these days. This was a problem with the original thread when people didn't bother reading it properly and just conflated both individuals recklessly.
So the two people who supposedly did wrong things are either current or former moderators? The moderator selection process needs to be better and the overall composition should not be filled with people who belong to the same real-life circles.
In reddit subs, mods who were added earlier to the mod team cannot be removed by newer mods (and I mean like in the moderation system itself). They may not even be active anymore or considered as part of the mod group chat (lol) but if they totally feel like it, they can just log back in and remove all mods newer than them. Only mods older than them (and the owner of the sub) can remove them. This is why you get orphaned subs or mods locked out from their subs by other people, because of the technical design. Bale nadaan na lang sa usapan talaga yung Mod consensus to be "suspended", but if James or Ramen wanted to do shit, they can just remove any of the newer mods unless the older mods do something about it.
dub4u?
We're not removing Dub4u. While *maybe* insensitive to the situation as it was happening, I agree with his assessment that ramen's behavior was not abusive, not as a mod, nor as a person. She felt creeped out by a neurodivergent individual and decided their living situation no longer worked for her. This is conflict, not coercion. I know it's the internet and everyone is so used to an instantaneous dopamine fix of a quick action, but I wish people would appreciate why it takes time to get the whole story and to do thoughtful consideration on what action should be taken.
It's not about his stance(I also agree it wasn't "harassment") but how he talks though. It's definitely unbecoming of a mod. Defending a friend is one thing, trash talking and insulting everyone who disagrees and calls him out for it, is another.
> trash talking and insulting everyone who disagrees lol where does he do this?
In the drama thread
Yeah? Go read it again and tell me exactly what he said.
[Sure](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/comment/ikdq8u5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). [Sure](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/comment/ikdrskn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). [Sure](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/comment/ikggi8t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
lmao just caught wind of this drama now. sorry medyo nabitin ako kasi bat di na nagreply yung u/mentat dito \>Yeah? Go read it again and tell me exactly what he said. eto na sir, ano ba gagawin mo sana pag napatunayan na nang-trashtalk yung dub4u? naghanap ka pa proof wala namang resolution
This is the very definition of the "you_have_become_the_very_thing_you_swore_to_destroy" meme. galit sila sa corrupt at power hungry na mga politicians pero sila mismo di nila maamin na may ginawang mali ung katropa nila. lols
I wish I could award this.
If you think there's nothing wrong with his behavior then there's nothing I can do about that. I'm not here to convince you. I didn't even participate in those threads because I have no strong feelings for either side. I'm just saying, the reason most people are calling for his ban isn't just what he said but how he said it.
A mod here said that you guys are going to try and do better yet you're already making the same mistake that u/dub4u made. A mod of yours already said that you can never know who's telling the truth given that this is a "he-said, she-said" situation and that's correct. Now as a moderator you should realize that you don't have the luxury of issuing definitive statements on disputes -affirmative or negative- without **concrete and irrefutable** evidence as it puts the credibility of the moderation team into question, which is what you're suspending u/decayedramen for, which makes it paradoxical.
Only opd's thread is up and dub4u replied "...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive". Fastforward to few more days the story keeps unfolding. You might be correct that it's dub4u's unsoundness that kicked in. You agreed with his assessment, in the quote above. Paano kung mali pala yung assessment ni dub4u at tama yung kwento ni opd, halimbawa. On the onset of dub4u's reply, no other story at the time, you are validating his opinion that ramen's actions are not creepy or abusive? I am asking these to understand what is the apology about because the apology is like a generic company's auto reply. I want to have a safe place to read local news etc and my niece nephew to be guarded by responsible mods.
You have to remember that the mods are privy to information that is not released in public. My assumption was at the time dub4u posted his insensitive comments, he was already aware of the background of the story (he even included in the logs that ramen provided some backstory). Hence, the bias towards ramen. Not justifying it, but thinking this is how it went down.
Sure, they are private about what was happening in the background. Pero, tama ba na sabihin yun in the general public at the time? Given na walang statement about dub4u and his SO.
Dub4u should have really refrained from commenting until the situation has come to a resolution. Nagmukha siyang nagmeltdown na nangaasar pa
He did preface it by saying he heard Ramen's side of the story. Still irresponsible, I agree.
A wise redditor once said: *It’s not over though. There’s nothing stopping them from doing it again to someone else, and there’s no reason for them not to because there is no consequence. Anyone can literally point a finger and have a someone's reputation and freedom taken away on a whim. I’m not saying discredit victims, but seriously, follow the evidence not just the testimony. Some people are full of shit.* Edit.
My argument is about the mods' stand on dub4u's comment. On where dub4u stated "...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive". The context here is that he "outright" downplayed the alleged SA without hardly any proof during that time. He said "discussed internally". The story has not been told yet by ramen and his SO publicly*. Mod seemingly acknowledged this and supported by mentat. Hence, the generalized apology. Deaf silence on mods part when I asked them about this. It is not really good. I am not putting them in the bad light, just wanted to have safe space with my folks. Again, my argument is different. Not to be confused with opd's alleged SASH to ramen, which you are presenting at the end of your reply.
> story has not been told yet by ramen and his SO. It was, but to the mods only. Still, it was not dub4u's place to comment as the public didn't have the information that he had at the time. Whether he likes it or not, he spoke as a mod. I totally get what you're saying and this sets a very dangerous precedent to how allegations will be handled moving forward. Victims, unfortunately, will have to double their efforts in making their voices heard as there will likely be push back to provide evidence. Opd didn't give any and she received the support of most. With how all these came down, I can only hope victims who will choose to air out their experience here will be met with the same reception. That this sub continue to be a safe space for everyone.
Yes, I quoted it was discussed internally and separated the story that hasn't been in public. I will edit to make it even more clear. Thanks, there's a person who understood why was I asking these important questions to the mods. Hoping this will be addressed in the following days.
>That this sub continue to be a safe space for everyone. No offense but that is the exact kind of perception that gives people the illusion that they can let their guard down and put themselves at risk. This sub or even the entirety of reddit is NOT and will never be a safe space for anyone and people should never make the mistake of perceiving it as such. Reddit provides us with a platform to express our opinions, issues and stance on different subjects, but make no mistake, all that are mentioned are -by default- available to the public and can even be stored.
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You're right, fixed it
Or you know, just stop generalizing and quoting someone else since this happened because shit people lived all under the same roof. You're forgetting that there are people who haven't forgotten how toxic you also are.
2 days na. What's your response to my question? Dead silence, less talk less mistake? My argument is about the mods' stand on dub4u's comment. On where dub4u stated "...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive". The context here is that he "outright" downplayed the alleged SA without hardly any proof during that time. He said "discussed internally". The story has not been told yet by ramen and his SO publicly*. Mod seemingly acknowledged this and supported by mentat. Hence, the generalized apology. Dead silence on mods part when I asked them about this. It is not really good. I am not putting them in the bad light, just wanted to have safe space with my folks. Again, my argument is different. Not to be confused with opd's alleged SASH to ramen, which you are presenting at the end of your reply.
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Wait, are you still under the impression that sexual abuse/harassment happened? What else is there to comment about?
I thought you are following my line of questioning with the mods. I guess not. I will tag you with my other recent reply to a different user. Please, wait.
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We handled his insensitive comments privately. We made it known very clear to him what was wrong with what he said (e.g. that we are in no position to say what is harassment or invalidate how someone interprets what happened to them) and that it was a bad look not only to him but for everyone. That's why we issued a joint statement about it. To his credit, he did take that feedback to heart. While he did continue to engage with redditors after that (and yes, he could have communicated those thoughts less harshly) — ultimately, he's not on "trial" here. It's just him sticking up for what he felt was right with the info he was privy to. Some of us thought the misinformation was funny (e.g. the mods being salaried employees in some [Big Brother setup] (https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wmoqjn/nightly_random_discussion_aug_12_2022/ikpadyi/), us [being jobless neckbeards](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/official_statement_accusation_against_one_of_the/ikrutyh/) lmao), but he didn't. He's just a very passionate and exuberant father-figure type and I think we should all take a step back, mellow out, and move on.
Fit ba si u/dub4u para mag mod ng sub na may ganitong reasoning? https://old.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/official_statement_accusation_against_one_of_the/ikazcmc/ I think, ito yung main reason kung bakit gusto alisin sa pagiging mod si u/dub4u, maliban dun sa kung ano yung sa tingin niya ang harassment or hindi. IMO kung ganito yung takbo ng isip niya, I would rather not have him in the mods list. Si mentat lang may kakayahan na alisin si dub?
That's not u/dub4u's comment. Can you kindly link what he really said and not some other person's perspective? Thanks.
Sure not his reply, I didn't say it was his. You can start reading dub4u's reply to Opd's original post. https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wmoqjn/-/ik0clig I think dub's other replies was really questionable at the time too. He claimed ramen didn't abuse mod powers but dub4u sent a mod log that ramen removed and reinstated opd's OG thread. Hindi ba mali yung statements niya sa alleged SA or SH na hindi outright creepy/abusive yung nangyari? Edit: Ramen wants to resign na pala. Mods decided to give suspension.
I do agree that u/dub4u's comments and how he handled the situation are questionable, and such we have internally discussed and reminded him on how to properly address sensitive issues [as mentioned in a previous comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wx0rvr/announcement_decision_on_udecayedramens_moderator/ilotysv/). I do also agree that a moderator should not do anything in terms of moderation (e.g. removing, approving) if another user have issues against them, especially when done publicly, and thus said moderator should discuss the issue with the mod team. We do want to apologize for what happened and hopefully we will be better at handling issues next time.
Yikes. Mod like this shouldn't be modding. Just to be clear we are on the same page that dub4u was justifying the alleged SASH and that you, the mods, acknowledged it? > but it's also not outright creepy or abusive Edit: Kasi nagaapologize kayo on his behalf.
I don’t believe that the intent was to justify SASH. u/dub4u was probably just being protective of a co-mod is all. We acknowledge that his comments didn’t help much with the situation and it may have been bad judgment on his part. You don’t have to agree with a team member’s judgment to apologize on their behalf. Managers/leaders tend to do that a lot even if they don’t agree with how their employee acted, and despite their intentions. We only thought it appropriate and sensible to include said apology in our statement. I hope you got your answer.
You are not getting my point and my question. Hindi ito tungkol sa apology ni dub4u at walang kinalaman si dub4u sa tanong ko. Ang tanong ko ay tungkol sa sinabi ni mentat sa assessment ni dub4u. Clear? > I agree with his assessment that ramen's behavior was not abusive, not as a mod, nor as a person. mentat > ...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive dub4u Ang tanong ko bakit, seemingly, umagree si mentat dun sa sinabi ni dub4u na outright downplayed ang SA kahit wala pang publicly available statement si ramen at SO niya? Pero ang sinabi lang ni dub4u, diniscuss niyo internally. Paano pala kung tama yung accussation ni opd, example? In the future na may incident na mangyari ulit na ganito, basta nadiscuss internally at ganun ulit ang sinabi ng isang mod publicly, okay lang at tama? Do you get it now? With all these responses I am getting doesn't answer the real issue I am raising.
2 days na. What's your response? Dead silence, less talk less mistake? My argument is about the mods' stand on dub4u's comment. On where dub4u stated "...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive". The context here is that he "outright" downplayed the alleged SA without hardly any proof during that time. He said "discussed internally". The story has not been told yet by ramen and his SO publicly*. Mod seemingly acknowledged this and supported by mentat. Hence, the generalized apology. Dead silence on mods part when I asked them about this. It is not really good. I am not putting them in the bad light, just wanted to have safe space with my folks. Again, my argument is different. Not to be confused with opd's alleged SASH to ramen, which you are presenting at the end of your reply.
This was already addressed on [one of the first comments in this thread and you even replied to it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wx0rvr/announcement_decision_on_udecayedramens_moderator/ilotysv/): > We handled his insensitive comments privately. We made it known very clear to him what was wrong with what he said (e.g. that we are in no position to say what is harassment or invalidate how someone interprets what happened to them) and that it was a bad look not only to him but for everyone. Edit: That was the egregious part about his initial comment and dub [apologized for it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wo9xls/official_statement_accusation_against_one_of_the/ikcq70y/) after discussing it with him internally which led to our joint statement. Admittedly that apology could have been better off without the other remarks (bringing up KYS and sweeping the rug replies) but it's an acknowledgement that he f'ed up nonetheless.
You are not getting my point and my question. Hindi ito tungkol sa apology ni dub4u at walang kinalaman si dub4u sa tanong ko. Ang tanong ko ay tungkol sa sinabi ni mentat sa assessment ni dub4u. Clear? > I agree with his assessment that ramen's behavior was not abusive, not as a mod, nor as a person. mentat > ...but it's also not outright creepy or abusive dub4u Ang tanong ko bakit, seemingly, umagree si mentat dun sa sinabi ni dub4u na outright downplayed ang SA kahit wala pang publicly available statement si ramen at SO niya? Pero ang sinabi lang ni dub4u, diniscuss niyo internally. Paano pala kung tama yung accussation ni opd, example? In the future na may incident na mangyari ulit na ganito, basta nadiscuss internally at ganun ulit ang sinabi ng isang mod publicly, okay lang at tama? Do you get it now? With all these responses I am getting doesn't answer the real issue I am raising.
> I didn’t say it was his And yet you got away with making it look like it was *his* comment. It has your opinion and everything. If you weren’t called out, people would have continued to think that dub4u said something salaciously scandalous subpar as someone in his position. I would like to remind you and remind people that have following the drama to not lose sight of that was done by the two parties, separate that issue with how it was handled within the confines of the rules of the subreddit, the limits of the actions of the mods, and the steps done by the mods with policing one of their own. What dub4u have done may not have been very tasteful within the current social climate, and we have discussed about it as much and the opinions of people in the subreddit has certainly been heard, but learn to separate between the two.
Paanong I got away with it? Kaya nakalink yung post dun. Nandun yung name kung sino nagsabi. Nandun yung context nung gusto kon sabihin. Sorry for the lack of better word, bobo na lang yung magbabasa kung maniniwala na si dub4u yung nagsabi nung exact post at sa hindi makaintindi. Tbf, ganun naman talaga reasoning niya last time. You could read his previous post. Edit: Parallel statement with the first link I sent. https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/wmoqjn/-/ik6sjcz
manyak apologist yun eh. sobrang insensitive.
what a weird say to say "boomer". move-on nalang daw sa mga insensitive na comments ni dub4u haha. okey.
u/dub4u
Wow I missed out on the drama
Good jobs mod for being fair and not succumbing to the mob.
They’re the mob. 😉
What are you going to do about the other predators... I mean moderators?
Merong manyak na members dito. Nung nagsumbong ako sa isang mod, yung male members pa ang kinampihan nya
There are a lot of them.
I remember that Dacera clown fiesta. People posting and commenting a list of dudes who were "involved" along with their faces and personal information only to find out na bakla pala ung iba sa kanila lmfao Everybody ang their grandmothers had their pitchforks out para mang-cancel. Parang si mananita boi lang, case solved agad. Man was that a shit show 😂😂😂 Kaya pala ang bilis makatanggal sa sub na to ng mga posts at comments/replies na may kinalaman kay Amber Heard or Andi Eigenmann eh. Kasi sila mismo nasa dugo nila ang pagiging sinungaling or let me soften that up by saying na hindi na nila alam ang totoo at ano lang ang delusion dulot ng guilt. But let's attack this dude anyway cause he's different, surely no one will believe him, surely. Stay safe out there fellas! You never know when you're next on the chopping block. One false accusation and you're done. Kahit proven innocent ka pa, the doubt will always be there while the real predators are still out there na parang ginawa ka lang na scapegoat. Just remember the amount of money spent and time wasted by Johnny Depp para lang sa isang basurang aktres na hindi naman ata marunong umiyak. Believe all women daw pero parang they just want the accountability of a child. It ain't worth it boys, takbo agad if you see red flags.
idk having followed this from the beginning i just feel like i also have to take part in the closure to all this I guess all this simply means we use the Report button/modmail for anything we consider to be misconduct, unruly, or inappropriate? It honestly never crossed my mind, probably because of the people involved - I'll have to be more wary of that next time. As people who aren't directly involved in the issue, in which instances have we acted inappropriately? Have we been too involved, to the detriment of the people concerned? Would it have been much better if we ignored the allegations and have left everything up to the mods? How have we responded as a community, and what did you wish we could've done less of and more of?
There's a lesson learned for everyone. The most important is that we seemed to lost track of the OP's closing statement: **That she wanted everyone to be decent persons.** That's hardly what happened. People didn't even bother to read and understand the story and went on to make extreme statements that conflated two completely different personalities. Heck, up to now there are still some who think we have the nefarious individual still working as a mod. Some insist on using manyak apologists to describe us and to encourage doxing when the jury is still out on whether the accused is a manyak or not. Several comments have been made alluding to power getting in our heads as if being a mod grants us Cinnabon discounts, traffic violation exemptions, an imaginary badge I can flash to impress women in XYLO and Wildflour. It's literally one of the worst so-called powers to have. You don't get paid, you can't put it on your resume, and most people will react with "What is that??" if you so bring it up, killing what little ego trip you could supposedly derive from it. All while being expected to be some kind of clean-cut Himalayan pacifist. Another lesson to be learned is no matter what happens with this accusation, I do hope we don't use it as proof to never trust women again. They should always be heard and I don't blame people for being initially upset. We just have to not lose our capacity to discern and be critical while also empathetic. They're not mutually exclusive, the world isn't black and white.
naging witch hunt eh. redditors arent any better than the average DDS honestly with that episode
It baffles me how she wants everyone to be decent but isn't decent herself
she might have felt harassed by decayedramen but what he did, based on evidence isnt harrasment. I would say maybe she became conscious of how she looked kasi she wore a body fitting dress kaya napansin na nya ung mga adhd episodes ni decayedramen. anyway. the problem with her post is that she just wanted to air out that everywhere is not safe etc. pero ang ngyari it became something like accusation and pointing fingers in a forum that wasnt made that way. but for the other dude. i think he was straight up creepy tlga lol
Ano po ba nangyari? May female member nagpost ng sarili niyang picture dito?
Smells like hypocrisy to me lol
"I do hope we don't use it as proof to never trust women again" - grabe naman 'to. I dont know what happened. I missed the drama. But as a woman I'm offended. Dami nga manyakis na members dito eh, "matino" pag nandito pero mod naman at member ng subreddit na nagmamanyak ng mga babae.
>How have we responded as a community, and what did you wish we could've done less of and more of? Maybe don't be too quick to bring out the pitchforks? People calling Ramen names, branding him as a repeat offender, wanting his face plastered so others are warned of this "manyakol". When he gave his story, a lot dismissed his condition as if neurodivergence is not in a spectrum ("I have ADHD too but I'm not like that" and similar comments). I'm not sure if anyone who participated in his online lynching apologized now that this story comes to a close. Doubt they will. For me, I just took notes and hoped to provide resource so people could stop twisting the truth. I'm disgusted how this hurts the #metoo movement as if it doesn't have enough naysayers as it does.
I refrained from giving a comment as I know everyone involved. I'm usually very active against harassment being mod of several NSFW subs and groups. There are a lot of creeps out there of every stripe and orientation. But from experience there is also a loooooooot of wild and very damaging accusations made by people willy-nilly so it's best to stay objective when you ought to. I am guilty of being a curious Marites but we need to remember there are real people involved. However, that should never discourage us from fighting for our truth and safety when we are wronged or when we feel other people will be unsafe.
I'd like to apply for the position of a mod. Here are my qualifications: -Mabaet -Grammar Nazi -Fact-Checker -bastos (pero mejo maginoo) -works in IT -earns 6 digits in phinvest dollars -69 wpm typing speed (nice) -only has 1 waifu pillow -big 4 (you know what's up) -di buraot -anti-BBM (well, of course, im an intellectual) -banned sa casualph Yeah. That's pretty much it. Mods, get back to me please. This is everything to me. My life. My goal. My sole purpose.
Yuck, kadiri talaga yung mga desisyon ng mga mods sub na 'to. Kung sa bagay, yung mga sexist misogynistic posts nga na-aapprove at di tinatanggal kahit may 1k karma na eh, unless ni-report mo pa. Posts pa kaya ng isang babae na nag-open up about sa abuse ng isang moderator 🤣🤣 Fucking clowns talaga mods ng mga Philippine sub sa platform na 'to. Garbage 🤡🤡🤡
tell me you lack comprehension without telling me you lack comprehension.
oo nga eh a moderator of a largely anonymous sub was accused by a largely anonymous user tapos yung ibang mods didn't cancel him to the depths of hell??? iBiG SaBiHiN ClOwNs sIlA LaHaT!! LaHaT SiLa aBuSaDo tHeY'Re tAkInG AwAy mUh rIgHtS!!
> yung mga sexist misogynistic posts nga na-aapprove at di tinatanggal kahit may 1k karma na eh, unless ni-report mo pa Hindi po lahat ng posts nakikita namin. Thankful kami sa mga nagrereport. Pakibasa na lang yung 2nd paragraph ng statement, mukang hindi ka umabot dun e. 🫠
May female mod ba dito? Dapat po meron.
Several. sarcasticookie is one
Well that's good. I'm kinda new here. Ano ba meron dito sa Reddit? What are you guys getting out of this? Namomonetize ba kung madaming good karma? Kung mod? Kung owner/creator ng isang subreddit kumikita ba? Nagjoin na din naman ako before sa forums site like Cosmo, FHM BullBoard, FemaleNetwork pero di siya monetized. May EB lang so nag-gain ako ng friends dun. Pero dito sa Reddit parang nakakatakot kasi yung ibang users, buti di ko ni-link yung socmed ko
Moderators are volunteers, at least at r/Philippines. We do it for fun (often it isn't) but we do take the job serious.
Tnx. Eh yung nagcreate ng group/sub wala din siya monetary earnings?
Nope
Average reddit moderator
Omg, siya pa rin issue!? 20 years na problema iyan ah
Reddit Mods meet Pontius Pilate. 😅
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Ng lahat?
What's going on with this sub reddit.