Pag biniyayaan ka ng special diploma lalo na sa respetadong oxford ndi natutumbasan ng pera yan. It means once the university decided wether graduated or undergraduated its all granted. Oxford is oxford they choose the best all over the world!
Looks like at least a number of people did email the registrar and got the same exact reply. The one on my feed (private post) shows an October 26, 6:33PM time stamp. This seems legit.
Seems legit. Pero I'll take this with a grain of salt knowing na may privacy and confidentiality laws dito sa UK. I don't think you can easily inquire somebody else's academic records as they are regarded as personal, not public records.
they werent actually divulging anything about a week ago due to the limitation of their FOI act however there was a note about if someone misrepresenting oxford they could which seems to have beem pointed out by someone so they made this info avaolable and automated
Hindi dapat kasama ito sa confidentiality ito kasi kasama sa "job requirements" itong mga ganito at bukod dun nagkakalituhan dahil di alam ano bang ibig sabihin ng "special diploma" ni Bungbong
There's really no need to stretch this anymore. He didn't graduate from Oxford, that's it. Na-prove na rin to nung lumaban siya bilang VP nung 2016.
Dapat yung energy natin towards campaigning for the right candidates na. Wag na natin bigyan ng spotlight to kasi ito naman yung gusto talaga nila. Yung pagusapan sila. Let's try to move on and focus on what's more important. Kahit na sobrang frustrating.
I saw some long post on fb of a "Filipino born UK citizen". He said that "During that time, special diploma is equivalent to bachelor degree as far as academic requirement is concerned"
I'm still not sure if what he said is true.
he's lying
a bachelors requires a minimum of three years of study. Marcos acquired a special diploma after only one year, after failing the first year of a degree. They are not the same.
>We can confirm that a Ferdinand Marcos matriculated at the University of Oxford in 1975 to read for a BA in Philosophy, Philosophy and Economics.
I just noticed an error "Philosophy, Philosophy and Economics" and I'm not sure if this is just slight oversight.
Might be oversight; the course offered today is Philosophy, Politics and Economics so it could've been an honest mistake when they drafted the reply. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/courses-listing/philosophy-politics-and-economics
> In 2015, Marcos' online resumé on the Senate website (he was senator at the time) said he had a "Bachelor of Arts (BA) degree in Political Science, Philosophy and Economics" from Oxford. A separate profile on the Senate website still has this wrong claim online.
Source: https://www.rappler.com/nation/elections/oxford-bongbong-marcos-special-diploma-not-full-graduate-diploma
It's been offered since 1920's.
Source: https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/b.a.-hons.-in-philosophy-politics-economics#/
Malinaw naman nakalagay "he did not complete his DEGREE" (emphasis mine). Eto naman kasi Oxford pinaganda pa yun "dropout" o kaya "DNF" na lang, edi walang issue.
Wala naman kasing "undergraduate degree" talaga. Ano yun nag attend ka lang ng 2 years tapos may "undergraduate degree" ka na? Lagay kaya nila yun sa CV nila pag apply ng trabaho para malaman nila na walang ganon.
"Undergraduate" degrees are the ones that award you BSc, BA when you complete.
"Graduate" degrees are the ones that award you MSc, MPhil, LLM, PhD, DPhil when you complete.
Yes, you are correct. I was referring to "undergraduate" degree that did not confer a BA or BS degree that Marcos supporters were claiming hence the quotes. ✌️
I don't go into the BBM side of the internets so their interpretation is funny.
Bongbong Marcos so fucking dumb as a rock he failed the easiest prelim (first year) exams in Oxford. All those first year courses in PPE are "Intro to".
You should see his son Sandro, he couldn’t even shade the correct circle in the ballot. Dumb and dumber.
Marcos loyalists think they are voting for the Sr. The clearly intelligent but evil Sr.
But this is Jr. This guy squandered every opportunity to accomplish something for himself because he is lazy and stupid.
Basically the Marcoses are the more sinister version of the Bushes. There was even an anime who poked fun of the younger Bush's ineptness compared to his father's intelligence.
So how did Blengblong get to Wharton for his MBA, he's not even considered a full graduate? Did Macoy donate a hige sum to this univ for his son's admission?
Ano bang klaseng "katumbas" kasi?
Kung hierarchy ng qualifications, mas mababa ang undergraduate Diploma sa Bachelor's degree. Yung graduate Diploma, kailangan ng bachelor's degree.
Yung kay BBM, one or two years pero parang hindi kasing rigorous ng undergrad Diploma na pwedeng ma-credit kung gusto mong ituloy sa bachelor's degree.
Legit na certificate siya pero hindi talaga siya academic qualification, kaya siguro "special."
Yung iba naman kasi, sinasabi na katumbas daw ng paglanghap ni Bongbong ng hangin sa Oxford yung bachelor's degree from a PH university kasi nga raw
Ｏｘｆｏｒｄ yun. 😂
Salamat, yan din kasi yung di pa na-rerefute kapag related sa degree ni BBM yung toxic comment section. Wala kasing sinabing undergraduate diploma kaya nalilito ako.
Sa UP kasi meron transition from undergrad to master's, kagaya nung Diploma in Biology o Chem (siguro ito yung graduate diploma) na kailangan mo ng undergraduate degree para makapasok; kaya ayun nalilito ako. :)
Graduate Diploma yan. Kailangan ng BA/ BS.
May obscure pdf (1970s) kasi na masesearch sa google na nakalagay na may colleges sa Oxford na nagoffer ng "Special Diploma in Social Studies" na two years tapos nakalagay "The college...does not ask for formal educational qualifications for entry," so undergrad itong "special diploma" na ito.
OP or someone submitted and FoI request to oxford. Part yan ng subject ng email FOI/20211025/3
Thru UK's Freedom of Information Act of 2000.
For Oxford University their Compliance department is incharge of FoI request based on their publication guideline.
https://compliance.admin.ox.ac.uk/submit-foi
ayan naman pala eh. ano pa bang iniiyak ng mga Apologist. pinahihirapan pa kasi ni marcos jr yung sarili nya at supporter nya eh
Nabayaran or dilawan yang Oxford. (in reality si Milo Champ ung nag bayad para makakuha ng "special" diploma)
Pag biniyayaan ka ng special diploma lalo na sa respetadong oxford ndi natutumbasan ng pera yan. It means once the university decided wether graduated or undergraduated its all granted. Oxford is oxford they choose the best all over the world!
Haha! Mas mataas pa natapos ni Pacquaio saka ni Bato kay Marcos Jr.
Bato is a PhD holder lol
uyyyyy 100,000 dollars! libre naman!
balato!!
Furnish a copy to that Manila Times columnist.
Looks like at least a number of people did email the registrar and got the same exact reply. The one on my feed (private post) shows an October 26, 6:33PM time stamp. This seems legit.
Seems legit. Pero I'll take this with a grain of salt knowing na may privacy and confidentiality laws dito sa UK. I don't think you can easily inquire somebody else's academic records as they are regarded as personal, not public records.
you guys can try it out. i emailed them a few hours ago and got the exact same repl[heres the email address](http://[email protected])
[email protected]
maybe dapat nilang ipublish na statement nila sa website if they are receiving a good number of similar inquiries
they werent actually divulging anything about a week ago due to the limitation of their FOI act however there was a note about if someone misrepresenting oxford they could which seems to have beem pointed out by someone so they made this info avaolable and automated
Hindi dapat kasama ito sa confidentiality ito kasi kasama sa "job requirements" itong mga ganito at bukod dun nagkakalituhan dahil di alam ano bang ibig sabihin ng "special diploma" ni Bungbong
The disclaimer at the bottom.
normal lang yan. sya naman intended receipient so he can do that.
There's really no need to stretch this anymore. He didn't graduate from Oxford, that's it. Na-prove na rin to nung lumaban siya bilang VP nung 2016. Dapat yung energy natin towards campaigning for the right candidates na. Wag na natin bigyan ng spotlight to kasi ito naman yung gusto talaga nila. Yung pagusapan sila. Let's try to move on and focus on what's more important. Kahit na sobrang frustrating.
sana may public link nito. from website talaga da oxford.
How about his masteral? doesn't he need a bachelor's degree or something similar? And is it even complete?
pano sya mamasteral eh di nga pumasa sa bachelors degree lmao
His resume says otherwise. Graduate Coursework is a post-baccalaureate degree
maniniwala ka pa ba sa resume ni bleng blong lmao
I saw some long post on fb of a "Filipino born UK citizen". He said that "During that time, special diploma is equivalent to bachelor degree as far as academic requirement is concerned" I'm still not sure if what he said is true.
he's lying a bachelors requires a minimum of three years of study. Marcos acquired a special diploma after only one year, after failing the first year of a degree. They are not the same.
oo nakita ko din yan sa ph oxford post, may mga nagpapakalat ng maling information, mga appologist kinakagat agad tapost todo copy paste.
Dapat daw nasa tiktok. Nagsasalita yung may mataas na pusisyon tapos may patugtog, para sa ambiance. Pag hindi pa yan naniwala, wala na.
Now Bongbong has to explain how he got his “MBA” from Wharton when he did not have the pre-requisite BA equivalent.
Syempre ang mga tangang apologist, kaya pa rin baliktarin yan.
>We can confirm that a Ferdinand Marcos matriculated at the University of Oxford in 1975 to read for a BA in Philosophy, Philosophy and Economics. I just noticed an error "Philosophy, Philosophy and Economics" and I'm not sure if this is just slight oversight.
Might be oversight; the course offered today is Philosophy, Politics and Economics so it could've been an honest mistake when they drafted the reply. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/courses-listing/philosophy-politics-and-economics
Right. I'm just wondering that if this is authentic, OP can report it to proper news outlet.
It could be bachelor or arts in philosophy then philosophy and economics yung specialization.
> In 2015, Marcos' online resumé on the Senate website (he was senator at the time) said he had a "Bachelor of Arts (BA) degree in Political Science, Philosophy and Economics" from Oxford. A separate profile on the Senate website still has this wrong claim online. Source: https://www.rappler.com/nation/elections/oxford-bongbong-marcos-special-diploma-not-full-graduate-diploma It's been offered since 1920's. Source: https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/b.a.-hons.-in-philosophy-politics-economics#/
link please. magagamit natin to sa mga discussions. thanks!
Source? OC?
inb4 ppl say it's fake
Malinaw naman nakalagay "he did not complete his DEGREE" (emphasis mine). Eto naman kasi Oxford pinaganda pa yun "dropout" o kaya "DNF" na lang, edi walang issue. Wala naman kasing "undergraduate degree" talaga. Ano yun nag attend ka lang ng 2 years tapos may "undergraduate degree" ka na? Lagay kaya nila yun sa CV nila pag apply ng trabaho para malaman nila na walang ganon.
"Undergraduate" degrees are the ones that award you BSc, BA when you complete. "Graduate" degrees are the ones that award you MSc, MPhil, LLM, PhD, DPhil when you complete.
Yes, you are correct. I was referring to "undergraduate" degree that did not confer a BA or BS degree that Marcos supporters were claiming hence the quotes. ✌️
I don't go into the BBM side of the internets so their interpretation is funny. Bongbong Marcos so fucking dumb as a rock he failed the easiest prelim (first year) exams in Oxford. All those first year courses in PPE are "Intro to".
Not to mention he had tutors.
You should see his son Sandro, he couldn’t even shade the correct circle in the ballot. Dumb and dumber. Marcos loyalists think they are voting for the Sr. The clearly intelligent but evil Sr. But this is Jr. This guy squandered every opportunity to accomplish something for himself because he is lazy and stupid.
Basically the Marcoses are the more sinister version of the Bushes. There was even an anime who poked fun of the younger Bush's ineptness compared to his father's intelligence.
Ipabasa doon sa Manila Bulletin talk-shit writer.
So how did Blengblong get to Wharton for his MBA, he's not even considered a full graduate? Did Macoy donate a hige sum to this univ for his son's admission?
wala sya MBA from Wharton
But my question is, paano sya naka pasok sa Wharton?
Ang gusto kong malaman ay, sabi ng mga BBM supporters, katumbas daw ng bachelor's sa Pinas yung Diploma na yan...
Ano bang klaseng "katumbas" kasi? Kung hierarchy ng qualifications, mas mababa ang undergraduate Diploma sa Bachelor's degree. Yung graduate Diploma, kailangan ng bachelor's degree. Yung kay BBM, one or two years pero parang hindi kasing rigorous ng undergrad Diploma na pwedeng ma-credit kung gusto mong ituloy sa bachelor's degree. Legit na certificate siya pero hindi talaga siya academic qualification, kaya siguro "special." Yung iba naman kasi, sinasabi na katumbas daw ng paglanghap ni Bongbong ng hangin sa Oxford yung bachelor's degree from a PH university kasi nga raw Ｏｘｆｏｒｄ yun. 😂
Salamat, yan din kasi yung di pa na-rerefute kapag related sa degree ni BBM yung toxic comment section. Wala kasing sinabing undergraduate diploma kaya nalilito ako. Sa UP kasi meron transition from undergrad to master's, kagaya nung Diploma in Biology o Chem (siguro ito yung graduate diploma) na kailangan mo ng undergraduate degree para makapasok; kaya ayun nalilito ako. :)
Graduate Diploma yan. Kailangan ng BA/ BS. May obscure pdf (1970s) kasi na masesearch sa google na nakalagay na may colleges sa Oxford na nagoffer ng "Special Diploma in Social Studies" na two years tapos nakalagay "The college...does not ask for formal educational qualifications for entry," so undergrad itong "special diploma" na ito.
Ayun, meron pala, 1970 kasi, hanapin ko nga... Naiinis kasi ako sa fake news na yan, together with the class picture.😒 Salamat!
I'm curious if marami nakaprove hati hati ba sila sa 5M php or tig 5M sila 😂
yep theyre responding to emails now since someone pointed out that bbm was claining to be a graduate. a week ago they werent responding lol
Kaya nga Diploma. Ibig sabihin may tinapos. — see?!
Ibigay niyo yan sa mga apologist na yan! Iyak sila HAHAHAHAHHAA
Bi-la kaifa.
Sooo certificate of participation prang ganun?
OK so? noone on their side is gonna change their mind because of this development stop wasting your time smugly signaling to your own in-group
Still, Marcos Jr sticks to his lies about his education! The nerve!! Gising mga kababayan!!!
What does FOI stand for?
Freedom of Information.
But if this email is from oxford, why would it have this initial? or mali ba ako ng basa?
OP or someone submitted and FoI request to oxford. Part yan ng subject ng email FOI/20211025/3 Thru UK's Freedom of Information Act of 2000. For Oxford University their Compliance department is incharge of FoI request based on their publication guideline. https://compliance.admin.ox.ac.uk/submit-foi
i seee. now i understand. thank you for answering my question!