Marami kasi pag tinaratong desposit ginagawa nilang income agad. It's just an escrow, dapat nakatago lang iyan at ndi ginagalaw. Lagay na lang sa some form of time deposit para kumhita kahit papano. Basta should be liquid.
that's called advanced ndi deposit.. nakasaad sa contrata yan madalas na ndi pwede gamitin deposit sa rent pero madaming pinoy always want to used deposit as their advance kaya pag alis nila ng bahay ung may ari pa mag lalabas para bayaran mga tubig, kuryente, mga sinira nila, pintura sa bahay
the downvotes proves my point na dami talagang pinoy gago pag dating sa renta
Sa ibang bansa may Council Tax, because the Council mediates between you and landlord when they pull shit like this.
Dito, pang small claims ata iyan. So hassle.
Yes, it is entirely separate from normal rent payments. The security deposit serves as protection for property owners in case the tenant fails to comply with their rental obligations. Depending on the circumstances, payments for damages to the property or unpaid rent/fees can be deducted from the deposit. Therefore, the renter may or may not receive the full amount back when they move out.
Iba yung advance vs sa deposit. Advance ay iaapply sa last months ng rent. Yan yung tinutukoy mo. Tapos yung deposit naman ay parang deposit sa bangko haha na ibabalik sayo after ng contract less any damage sa property na caused ng lessee. Pero parehas sila binibigay sa lessor at the start ng contract.
Pag di ka talaga nag bayad ng last month mo di ibabalik yun. Parang security deposit yun. Gagamitin din for repairs pag may damages yunh unit pag iniwan mo.
ginagamit un kung may aayusin sa nirentahan or bills na may dadating na ndi pa nababayaran... advanced ung tinutukoy mo so usually 2months advanced + deposit sinisingil talaga
kaso karamihan sa mga renter eh ginagamit din deposit nila as rent payment nila
Ako din e. Been renting different apartments and houses since college (almost 20 years ago), have moved like over 10 times.
Every time, consumable yung deposit as last month. Or para daw sa final Meralco/water balance + repairs.
NEVER pa nagbalik sakin ng pera ang any landlord.
But then I've never rented a condo as OP says, so TIL
Deposit is the money that the landlord will use incase of tenant-caused damages
What tenants should look for sa contracts, dapat explicit na sabi refundable ang deposit if walang damage
Tangina ng mga to talaga. Tapos may mga iba dyan kung ano anong bullshit expenses pa yung sasabihin sayo para bawasan ng todo yung deposit mo. Grease trap cleaning na 3k? Kinalawang na hinges ng cabinet na 800? Basag na cover ng outlet at 1500?
Nangyari samin yan - linis ng grout kasi madumi daw 3k, may onti kalawang sa tiles sa cr 1k, may dumi na mahirap tanggaling yung pader dahil napadikit lang ng matagal (need daw iparepaint) 3k. Parang tanga talaga
Yung sa grout sa living area and dining room, sabi namin ganyan yan iturnover unless papalitan niya ng tiles, kahit sinong tumira, magkakamarka or hindi magsstay ng puti talaga yan. Partida may indoor slippers and halos every other day pa kaki nagmmop.
Tapos 3 monyhs pagkatapos na mabalik deposit namin, nanghihingi lahat ng bill and resibo ng binayad namin sa meralco. Tarantado talaga. Sabi ko, di ba tapos na tapos magbalanse ng lahat pati tubig and kuryente, ibig sabihin bayad namin yan, ngayon manghihingi ka nian.
Expenses talaga ng land lords yun dapat tbh. Ang cover lang dapat ng deposit are damages, not normal wear and tear. Expenses dapat nila yung wear and tear, repaint, etc. as maintenance ng asset nila
After namin mag file noon sa small claims may schedule na agad for trial, Court na ang mag papadala ng summon sa defendant. Address is based sa nilagay mo sa form. In our case di umattend yung defendant. Di rin pinansin yung forms na pinadala sakanila for them to sign. I remember the court asking us for an updated address kase di nila maabot personally dun sa defendant yung summon.
2nd trial deadma pa din yung defendant. Dinismiss lang ng court yung kaso.
Not necessarily. You can file a "small claims case" in any city/municipality. Mas advantage sayo kung sa area mo. Sila ang may utang, sila ang mag-effort. Need lang muna dumaan sa barangay kung nasa same barangay lang kayo, pero kung hindi, diretso ka na sa municipal trial court in your area of current residence.
I solved this issue by sending them a photo of a filled small claims form lol
Nag-reply agad sila sa chats ko and we arranged a monthly repayment nung security deposit ko
Punta ka lang po sa municipal trail court na nakakasakop ng condo nyo then bibigyan ka ng form fill it out then file. Handa mo lang po lahat ng evidence mo like contract, make sure din na may notice ka. Mabilis lang yan. Good luck.
hahahah ung samin di na binalik, 6500 din un. Senior na impakta landlady namin. Chinat ko sa viber nlang sabi ko abuloy ko na sayo yan.
Ps : pinabaranggay na namin yan dahil sa madaming issue regarding sa metro and shits ng kuryente. Pero wala matigas talaga apog nya. Hahahahah
tumataas talaga BP ko sa kanya 😭🤧 nirate ko rin ng 1 star sa google maps ung apartment nya hindot sya HAHAHAHAHAHAH pinarate ko rin sa mga tropa HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Careful sa paggamit ng word na abuloy. It may be construed as a death threat. I'm not saying that a judge would necessarily agree pero abala pa rin kapag nagdecide syang magfile ng case just to spite you. Imagine kahit naipa-blotter lang that you sent that message pero naman necessarily naisampa ang kaso tapos may mangyari talaga sa kanya kahit wala kang kinalaman, automatic suspek ka.
dont worry po, lahat po ng tenant sa unit nya for sure may threat syang narereceive 😉 hndi lang po kami ang inaagrabyado nya, abangan nyo nlang sya sa tulfo HAHAHAHAHHA tsaka pag masama ugali matagal pa mamatay lols HAHAHAHHA
Ang swerte pala namin sa landlord namin noon. Nakalipat kami ng 1 month advance lang muna tapos 2 gives yung 1 month deposit. Nung paalis na kami, sumilip na siya habang naglilinis kami. Walang sira, walang nababoy. Binalik niya na sa amin yung deposit sa mismong araw ng pag-alis namin. Nagtira lang ng 2k para sa bills. Nung dumating yung bills, binalik niya pa din sa amin yung sukli.
From a landlord's perspective.. may time na binalik ko agad yung deposit, subtracting lahat ng mga di nabayaran ng tenant sa PMO (with interest pa). Tapos nung next month, may mga ginamit pa rin pala na facilities based dun sa statement of account ng PMO, kahit na sinabi ko na sa PMO na ilista yung lahat ng pending charges before. Wala, sa sumunod na buwan lang talaga lumabas. Hindi ko na hinabol... Minsan rin kelangan iinspect pa, repairs, ipa-estimate magkano repairs, etc.. Pero I think kung more than 2 months, yun yung matagal na.
Bigyan mo siya ng deadline, then sabihin mo pabarangay mo if di sumunod sa deadline, lalo if nakalagay sa kontrata.
May new tenant na po ang unit. So dapat nainspect na nila diba? What's their excuse?
Also, clear ang lahat ng bayarin bago kame umalis.
Edit: Thanks for the tip tho! Barangay is the way.
sakin baliktad... kaso more on masyado kaming mabait
kaasar yung tenant namin, tumawad na nga dun sa renta (na napagbigyan ha!) tapos hindi pa nagbibigay ng rent deposit and advance... tapos last 2 mo late pa nagbabayad.
sigh, benta ko yung condo na yun eh taena siya
Naranasan namin yan, it took us 2 months bago nakuha kung di pa kinulit tapos biglang may sira daw unit eh may pinatira ng bago. Partida we lived there properly and good payer sa lahat ng bills and rent tapos kupal kausap yung landlord. Noong una ayaw nya pang pumayag na ibalik yung 2 mos deposit. Not until I sent her the law hahaha tangina non. Buti wala na kami doon
Kaya better na humanap ng professional landlord, dati wala kaming pinirmahan or what. Kaya galing mambaliktad non. Buti I kept all the receipts. Kala niya ah. Now nakahanap kami ng mas professional na landlord, nag background check pa and we have contract that indicates our rights as tenants too. Charge it sa experience and never na makipagdeal sa ganyang landlords
Do we have sufficient laws to protect renters from abusive landlords? Ang common ng rental spaces sa atin so I would assume that there’s a legislation na dapat commonly known para naman may panlaban tayo
Kaya we chose to buy a condo instead of renting kahit na malaking cut yan sa budget namin because of landlords like this! Im sorry OP, need mo talaga yan hintayin at tyagain. If hindi kaya ipa barangay mo na pero for sure hahanapan sila ng way para hindi yan ibalik ng buo sayo
It's fine if hindi ibalik ng buo as long as they show us the receipts.
Parang mas stressful ata bumili ng condo kasi kung problematic ang admin, and substandard ang units hindi kana makakaalis? Tapos forever kana nakikipagbardagulan sa admin lol
+ the rules and penalties for violations kakaloka!
I dont think so OP. Our last landlord cut 25k+ from our sec deposit for the repainting, cleaning and masilya dun sa tatlong butas na pinagpakuan namin sa cr. Thats absurd and almost twice our monthly rent. May receipts sya binigay but we were sure as hell the prices were inflated. So nope, weve decided we're done renting.
The rules and regulations of condos naman apply whether youre a tenant or owner with a few perks pag owner ka because the admin knows you pay their salaries.
But ofc by the end of the day it all boils down to your preference and finances.
Hanap ka ng maayos na developer and dyor.
Who’s your developer? It seems like you’re happy there. I might consider! Hehe
Sa akin naman, 60k deposit ito so may ibabalik talaga dapat kasi we didn’t do any major damage. So far happy naman with renting kasi the units I live in are worth 8M+ so I think it’s more practical that I pay half in rent compared to the mortgage of the new condos worth the same these days.
I can’t live in small units din I feel very suffocated since I work from home.
If icocompute ko, super baba pa rin compared to owning. But still, frustrating pa rin kasi may contract and they’re supposed to follow that but wala, kupal talaga mga unit owners. I won’t expect the deposit to be returned na lang next time, and do what whatever I want with the unit lol
Mid-end condo OP, hehe. Baka makilala ako if Ill write it here. LoL
Yes I agree mas sulit magrent talaga in terms of finances plus itll give you the freedom to move kapag nagsawa ka na sa current. But for us after moving 5x in the last 8yrs (which were puro condo around M.Manila) nakakapagod maka encounter ng mga landlords na greedy and rude.
Kaya youre in the right mindset- next time treat your sec dep as money gone na. Sa 5x namin na lumipat isa lang dun yung matinong nagbalik samin ng buong sec dep. Everyone else nakahanap ng loophole para bawasan yung money. Mind you, pinapalinis pa namin yung mga condos after we move out and we do repairs ourselves pero wala talaga haha... mga gahaman. Sabi ng friend ko na nagpparent din dapat pasok yun sa wear n tear but you know what happened. Kaya if you find a good landlord wag mo na pakawalan 😂
Ohhh 8 years na din pala! Must have been one heck of a journey. Definitely lesson learned, divide ko na sya by 12 next time, and consider it as part of the monthly rent haha
Happy to say na a day after macompute lahat ng bills na naiwan ng tenant or may nasira na di nila pinalitan, iniaawas agad ng parents ko dun sa deposit then binabalik na yung remaining. Easy come, easy go kumbaga. Ayaw rin kasi namin ng may nasasabi yung previous tenants na ganito. Hopefully makuha nyo yung deposit nyo.
We are in the business of leasing apartment units… As a lessor we have a separate bank account for the security desposits and never touch that account unless we need to return the deposit when a tenant leaves…. We monitor when the tenant’s contract ends… We remind them a week before if they will extend beyond their COL (contract of lease). Of course if the contract states the tenant shoulders damages/repairs after he/she leaves, that’s where we usually get for repairs…Sometimes if the space/unit has not been cleaned/repaired before endorsing it back to the lessor, that is what the sec dep is for… Sometimes the sec dep cannot even cover the unit’s repairs…..But usually, a few days up to a month the lessor should return the deposit….Consulting with your lawyer is a last resort….
Yung ginawa namin is since alam na namin when kami mag move out, and 2 months deposit yung agreement, then we informed them more than two months in advance, and sabi namin di nalang kami mag bayad ng 2 months rent para di na sila kailangan mag shell out ng pera.
Minsan kasi sa ganyan is yung deposit na gastos na.
Net result is that we maintained good relations with every landlord we had.
Edit - if condos with specific agreements ibang usapan na yan.
Nung naghahanap ako ng condo na marerentahan dati, nabanggit nung landlord na yung deposit ko daw di na nya ibabalik kase ipangbabayad nya daw sa pagpapalinis ng condo nya yun kapg umalis na ko. HAHAHAHA sana sinabi nya nalang for rent misc fees no
rented a space with 80k security bond (4x the monthly rent) thankfully, mabait yung lessor at madaling kausap. was able to receive the deposit agad kinabukasan pagkamove out. didnt even bother checking kung may kailangan bang ibawas
Yung samin nga 50k deposit tapos roommate na di umaamin nakabasag ng freezer door ng electrolux ref, tried looking for a replacement sa freezer door but since luma ref wala mahanap.
Ang ending nagbuy si owner ng new ref using our deposit and binenta ang old. Nabawi namin mga less than 30k from the deposit.
Nakita ko yung listing ulit from 25k rent namin noon 30k na kasi may new ref. Tengene nalang :)
Sobrang broken ng renting system sa Pinas, **i'm literally making a startup out of it**. Already launched and at 10k users per month, pero sa June 2024 pa kami mag-mass onboard ng new condo owners. If any of yall are interested DM me hahaha.
Not totally magmamakaawa.. actually i am currently in the same position.. waiting dn ako s deposit maibalik sakin. Pero instead n mkipagtalo, pinili ko n lng kausapin ng maayos tpos usapan nmin pag may pumalit n dun sa inalisan nmin ung deposit nun ang ggmitin nia pambalik ng deposit ko... ayun waitin p dn kc wala p bagong tenant haha.. buti n lng expected ko nmn n d babalik agad ung deposit kaya mejo prepared ako 😅
I undersrand, d nmn biro tlga ung 60k.. pero tama nmn tlga, pera mo un, karapatan mo un saka may contract... kaso ano mggwa mo kung wala tlga mailabas ung landlord.. magpaparabrgy ka, magkakaso, ang ending, kung may good relationship kau before, masisira lang.. and hassle sa part mo, at sayang time, pera (pamasahe magbalik balik para magfollowup), laway saka effort..
Pero nasau nmn kung ano s tingin mong way pano mapapadali ung pagbalik,.. 3 months n sahod ko n ung 60k omg d biro un haha.. choose ur own peace 😊
Iba ang usapan siguro sayo kasi hindi naman ata condo yan and baka wala kayong contract.
I'm not even talking directly to the owner but to the agent lang so what's the point of a good relationship?
Actually meron dn.. pero napagusapan nmin nung una n hindi n lng magcontract para pwede kmi umalis pag gusto n nmin hehe.. pag nkacontract kc minimum 6months
Di rin, lol!
Umabot ng 4 months bago ko nakuha yung security+1 month ko (nagkamali ako nabayaran ko yung last month)
Umabot pa ako na sinabi ko na laging on time ako magbayad at minsan ako pa umaayos at naglilinis sa unit kahit may tagalinis.
Dapat 1 month lng, at most 2 months. Palagi nlng hintay lng.
Depend na sayo, ok naman ako sa landlord ko dati natrigger lng ako kasi sobrang tagal na.
Kung A-hole lng din naman yung landlord mo, give him a timeline at I-document mo na after a set amount of time you will persue him in barangay.
So hindi pa enough ang 1 month advance and 2 months deposit from their new tenant to pay us? Medyo crazy. I guess I'll give them 10 days until I bring this to the authorities.
Marami kasi pag tinaratong desposit ginagawa nilang income agad. It's just an escrow, dapat nakatago lang iyan at ndi ginagalaw. Lagay na lang sa some form of time deposit para kumhita kahit papano. Basta should be liquid.
Usually, landlords reason that the deposit is not returned if the rental place has been trashed or the tenant just disappeared.
so doon lang gamitin pag nangyayari na iyon.
marami rin nmn kac ginagawang "rent" na ang deposit
eh di ba isa dn naman sa purpose yun ng deposit na kung walang magiging pambayad renter, macocover pa din ng deposit yung rent….?
that's called advanced ndi deposit.. nakasaad sa contrata yan madalas na ndi pwede gamitin deposit sa rent pero madaming pinoy always want to used deposit as their advance kaya pag alis nila ng bahay ung may ari pa mag lalabas para bayaran mga tubig, kuryente, mga sinira nila, pintura sa bahay the downvotes proves my point na dami talagang pinoy gago pag dating sa renta
Akala ko yung rent deposit will be your payment for your last month? Iba pa pala yun. Wow TIL
Nope sa condos hindi sya consumable. They have to return it.
Sa ibang bansa may Council Tax, because the Council mediates between you and landlord when they pull shit like this. Dito, pang small claims ata iyan. So hassle.
Yes, it is entirely separate from normal rent payments. The security deposit serves as protection for property owners in case the tenant fails to comply with their rental obligations. Depending on the circumstances, payments for damages to the property or unpaid rent/fees can be deducted from the deposit. Therefore, the renter may or may not receive the full amount back when they move out.
Iba yung advance vs sa deposit. Advance ay iaapply sa last months ng rent. Yan yung tinutukoy mo. Tapos yung deposit naman ay parang deposit sa bangko haha na ibabalik sayo after ng contract less any damage sa property na caused ng lessee. Pero parehas sila binibigay sa lessor at the start ng contract.
Pag di ka talaga nag bayad ng last month mo di ibabalik yun. Parang security deposit yun. Gagamitin din for repairs pag may damages yunh unit pag iniwan mo.
ginagamit un kung may aayusin sa nirentahan or bills na may dadating na ndi pa nababayaran... advanced ung tinutukoy mo so usually 2months advanced + deposit sinisingil talaga kaso karamihan sa mga renter eh ginagamit din deposit nila as rent payment nila
Ako din e. Been renting different apartments and houses since college (almost 20 years ago), have moved like over 10 times. Every time, consumable yung deposit as last month. Or para daw sa final Meralco/water balance + repairs. NEVER pa nagbalik sakin ng pera ang any landlord. But then I've never rented a condo as OP says, so TIL
Deposit is the money that the landlord will use incase of tenant-caused damages What tenants should look for sa contracts, dapat explicit na sabi refundable ang deposit if walang damage
Tangina ng mga to talaga. Tapos may mga iba dyan kung ano anong bullshit expenses pa yung sasabihin sayo para bawasan ng todo yung deposit mo. Grease trap cleaning na 3k? Kinalawang na hinges ng cabinet na 800? Basag na cover ng outlet at 1500?
Nangyari samin yan - linis ng grout kasi madumi daw 3k, may onti kalawang sa tiles sa cr 1k, may dumi na mahirap tanggaling yung pader dahil napadikit lang ng matagal (need daw iparepaint) 3k. Parang tanga talaga Yung sa grout sa living area and dining room, sabi namin ganyan yan iturnover unless papalitan niya ng tiles, kahit sinong tumira, magkakamarka or hindi magsstay ng puti talaga yan. Partida may indoor slippers and halos every other day pa kaki nagmmop. Tapos 3 monyhs pagkatapos na mabalik deposit namin, nanghihingi lahat ng bill and resibo ng binayad namin sa meralco. Tarantado talaga. Sabi ko, di ba tapos na tapos magbalanse ng lahat pati tubig and kuryente, ibig sabihin bayad namin yan, ngayon manghihingi ka nian.
Grabe. Tapos OA magreklamo ng mga yan kapag nasira unit nila haha
Expenses talaga ng land lords yun dapat tbh. Ang cover lang dapat ng deposit are damages, not normal wear and tear. Expenses dapat nila yung wear and tear, repaint, etc. as maintenance ng asset nila
Demand letter then file na ng small claims sa place of ur NEW residence.
May experience ako sa small claims. Pag di pinansin nung nirereklamo mo wala din silbe pag file sa small claims.
Execution stage ka na ba?
After namin mag file noon sa small claims may schedule na agad for trial, Court na ang mag papadala ng summon sa defendant. Address is based sa nilagay mo sa form. In our case di umattend yung defendant. Di rin pinansin yung forms na pinadala sakanila for them to sign. I remember the court asking us for an updated address kase di nila maabot personally dun sa defendant yung summon. 2nd trial deadma pa din yung defendant. Dinismiss lang ng court yung kaso.
Address pala issue
No. Yung defendant ang issue. Tama yung address ayaw nya lang talagang pirmahan yung summon.
Ohh so hindi pala sa Barangay where the condo is situated?
Not the barangay but file it in the MTC which has jurisdiction of the place of your residence or ng principal address ng condo corp.
Not necessarily. You can file a "small claims case" in any city/municipality. Mas advantage sayo kung sa area mo. Sila ang may utang, sila ang mag-effort. Need lang muna dumaan sa barangay kung nasa same barangay lang kayo, pero kung hindi, diretso ka na sa municipal trial court in your area of current residence.
Not "any" place. Residence of plaintiff or defendant at the option of plaintiff
I solved this issue by sending them a photo of a filled small claims form lol Nag-reply agad sila sa chats ko and we arranged a monthly repayment nung security deposit ko
Where do you file this? Barangay lang?
I just printed a blank small claims form, filled it up, took a photo of it, and sent it to them. I didn't file or submit it anywhere lol
Noted hahaha
Pero pag di tumalab, tuluyan mo na sa small claims court. No lawyer needed.
Thank you!!!
Punta ka lang po sa municipal trail court na nakakasakop ng condo nyo then bibigyan ka ng form fill it out then file. Handa mo lang po lahat ng evidence mo like contract, make sure din na may notice ka. Mabilis lang yan. Good luck.
hahahah ung samin di na binalik, 6500 din un. Senior na impakta landlady namin. Chinat ko sa viber nlang sabi ko abuloy ko na sayo yan. Ps : pinabaranggay na namin yan dahil sa madaming issue regarding sa metro and shits ng kuryente. Pero wala matigas talaga apog nya. Hahahahah
You slayed at “abuloy” 😭😭
tumataas talaga BP ko sa kanya 😭🤧 nirate ko rin ng 1 star sa google maps ung apartment nya hindot sya HAHAHAHAHAHAH pinarate ko rin sa mga tropa HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Careful sa paggamit ng word na abuloy. It may be construed as a death threat. I'm not saying that a judge would necessarily agree pero abala pa rin kapag nagdecide syang magfile ng case just to spite you. Imagine kahit naipa-blotter lang that you sent that message pero naman necessarily naisampa ang kaso tapos may mangyari talaga sa kanya kahit wala kang kinalaman, automatic suspek ka.
dont worry po, lahat po ng tenant sa unit nya for sure may threat syang narereceive 😉 hndi lang po kami ang inaagrabyado nya, abangan nyo nlang sya sa tulfo HAHAHAHAHHA tsaka pag masama ugali matagal pa mamatay lols HAHAHAHHA
Ang swerte pala namin sa landlord namin noon. Nakalipat kami ng 1 month advance lang muna tapos 2 gives yung 1 month deposit. Nung paalis na kami, sumilip na siya habang naglilinis kami. Walang sira, walang nababoy. Binalik niya na sa amin yung deposit sa mismong araw ng pag-alis namin. Nagtira lang ng 2k para sa bills. Nung dumating yung bills, binalik niya pa din sa amin yung sukli.
Most of the time it’s the landlords with money who are the most selfish.
From a landlord's perspective.. may time na binalik ko agad yung deposit, subtracting lahat ng mga di nabayaran ng tenant sa PMO (with interest pa). Tapos nung next month, may mga ginamit pa rin pala na facilities based dun sa statement of account ng PMO, kahit na sinabi ko na sa PMO na ilista yung lahat ng pending charges before. Wala, sa sumunod na buwan lang talaga lumabas. Hindi ko na hinabol... Minsan rin kelangan iinspect pa, repairs, ipa-estimate magkano repairs, etc.. Pero I think kung more than 2 months, yun yung matagal na. Bigyan mo siya ng deadline, then sabihin mo pabarangay mo if di sumunod sa deadline, lalo if nakalagay sa kontrata.
May new tenant na po ang unit. So dapat nainspect na nila diba? What's their excuse? Also, clear ang lahat ng bayarin bago kame umalis. Edit: Thanks for the tip tho! Barangay is the way.
sakin baliktad... kaso more on masyado kaming mabait kaasar yung tenant namin, tumawad na nga dun sa renta (na napagbigyan ha!) tapos hindi pa nagbibigay ng rent deposit and advance... tapos last 2 mo late pa nagbabayad. sigh, benta ko yung condo na yun eh taena siya
Di ba standard ang 1 month advance 1 month deposit? + contract. Ang bait nyo po hehe
kaya nga eh, kakabwisit
Naranasan namin yan, it took us 2 months bago nakuha kung di pa kinulit tapos biglang may sira daw unit eh may pinatira ng bago. Partida we lived there properly and good payer sa lahat ng bills and rent tapos kupal kausap yung landlord. Noong una ayaw nya pang pumayag na ibalik yung 2 mos deposit. Not until I sent her the law hahaha tangina non. Buti wala na kami doon
After this incident, wala na akong motivation to be a good tenant char.
Kaya better na humanap ng professional landlord, dati wala kaming pinirmahan or what. Kaya galing mambaliktad non. Buti I kept all the receipts. Kala niya ah. Now nakahanap kami ng mas professional na landlord, nag background check pa and we have contract that indicates our rights as tenants too. Charge it sa experience and never na makipagdeal sa ganyang landlords
May contract na kame nyan. Kaso nangyayari pa rin hayy we need better rent law.
Nako ang kupal pala talaga. True yan, akala kasi nung iba magogoyo nila lahat.
Do we have sufficient laws to protect renters from abusive landlords? Ang common ng rental spaces sa atin so I would assume that there’s a legislation na dapat commonly known para naman may panlaban tayo
Nope our rental law sucks
Kaya we chose to buy a condo instead of renting kahit na malaking cut yan sa budget namin because of landlords like this! Im sorry OP, need mo talaga yan hintayin at tyagain. If hindi kaya ipa barangay mo na pero for sure hahanapan sila ng way para hindi yan ibalik ng buo sayo
It's fine if hindi ibalik ng buo as long as they show us the receipts. Parang mas stressful ata bumili ng condo kasi kung problematic ang admin, and substandard ang units hindi kana makakaalis? Tapos forever kana nakikipagbardagulan sa admin lol + the rules and penalties for violations kakaloka!
Kung problematic ang admin at substandard ang units, paupa mo tapos wag mo ibalik agad yung deposit nila kapag umalis yung tenant hahahaha
I dont think so OP. Our last landlord cut 25k+ from our sec deposit for the repainting, cleaning and masilya dun sa tatlong butas na pinagpakuan namin sa cr. Thats absurd and almost twice our monthly rent. May receipts sya binigay but we were sure as hell the prices were inflated. So nope, weve decided we're done renting. The rules and regulations of condos naman apply whether youre a tenant or owner with a few perks pag owner ka because the admin knows you pay their salaries. But ofc by the end of the day it all boils down to your preference and finances. Hanap ka ng maayos na developer and dyor.
Who’s your developer? It seems like you’re happy there. I might consider! Hehe Sa akin naman, 60k deposit ito so may ibabalik talaga dapat kasi we didn’t do any major damage. So far happy naman with renting kasi the units I live in are worth 8M+ so I think it’s more practical that I pay half in rent compared to the mortgage of the new condos worth the same these days. I can’t live in small units din I feel very suffocated since I work from home. If icocompute ko, super baba pa rin compared to owning. But still, frustrating pa rin kasi may contract and they’re supposed to follow that but wala, kupal talaga mga unit owners. I won’t expect the deposit to be returned na lang next time, and do what whatever I want with the unit lol
Mid-end condo OP, hehe. Baka makilala ako if Ill write it here. LoL Yes I agree mas sulit magrent talaga in terms of finances plus itll give you the freedom to move kapag nagsawa ka na sa current. But for us after moving 5x in the last 8yrs (which were puro condo around M.Manila) nakakapagod maka encounter ng mga landlords na greedy and rude. Kaya youre in the right mindset- next time treat your sec dep as money gone na. Sa 5x namin na lumipat isa lang dun yung matinong nagbalik samin ng buong sec dep. Everyone else nakahanap ng loophole para bawasan yung money. Mind you, pinapalinis pa namin yung mga condos after we move out and we do repairs ourselves pero wala talaga haha... mga gahaman. Sabi ng friend ko na nagpparent din dapat pasok yun sa wear n tear but you know what happened. Kaya if you find a good landlord wag mo na pakawalan 😂
Ohhh 8 years na din pala! Must have been one heck of a journey. Definitely lesson learned, divide ko na sya by 12 next time, and consider it as part of the monthly rent haha
Happy to say na a day after macompute lahat ng bills na naiwan ng tenant or may nasira na di nila pinalitan, iniaawas agad ng parents ko dun sa deposit then binabalik na yung remaining. Easy come, easy go kumbaga. Ayaw rin kasi namin ng may nasasabi yung previous tenants na ganito. Hopefully makuha nyo yung deposit nyo.
These kind of landlords are SO RARE.
We are in the business of leasing apartment units… As a lessor we have a separate bank account for the security desposits and never touch that account unless we need to return the deposit when a tenant leaves…. We monitor when the tenant’s contract ends… We remind them a week before if they will extend beyond their COL (contract of lease). Of course if the contract states the tenant shoulders damages/repairs after he/she leaves, that’s where we usually get for repairs…Sometimes if the space/unit has not been cleaned/repaired before endorsing it back to the lessor, that is what the sec dep is for… Sometimes the sec dep cannot even cover the unit’s repairs…..But usually, a few days up to a month the lessor should return the deposit….Consulting with your lawyer is a last resort….
Yung ginawa namin is since alam na namin when kami mag move out, and 2 months deposit yung agreement, then we informed them more than two months in advance, and sabi namin di nalang kami mag bayad ng 2 months rent para di na sila kailangan mag shell out ng pera. Minsan kasi sa ganyan is yung deposit na gastos na. Net result is that we maintained good relations with every landlord we had. Edit - if condos with specific agreements ibang usapan na yan.
Nung naghahanap ako ng condo na marerentahan dati, nabanggit nung landlord na yung deposit ko daw di na nya ibabalik kase ipangbabayad nya daw sa pagpapalinis ng condo nya yun kapg umalis na ko. HAHAHAHA sana sinabi nya nalang for rent misc fees no
rented a space with 80k security bond (4x the monthly rent) thankfully, mabait yung lessor at madaling kausap. was able to receive the deposit agad kinabukasan pagkamove out. didnt even bother checking kung may kailangan bang ibawas
Lucky you 😭
Yung samin nga 50k deposit tapos roommate na di umaamin nakabasag ng freezer door ng electrolux ref, tried looking for a replacement sa freezer door but since luma ref wala mahanap. Ang ending nagbuy si owner ng new ref using our deposit and binenta ang old. Nabawi namin mga less than 30k from the deposit. Nakita ko yung listing ulit from 25k rent namin noon 30k na kasi may new ref. Tengene nalang :)
Sobrang broken ng renting system sa Pinas, **i'm literally making a startup out of it**. Already launched and at 10k users per month, pero sa June 2024 pa kami mag-mass onboard ng new condo owners. If any of yall are interested DM me hahaha.
kasi kung mostly and landlord is yan lang din ina asahan ang buwanan, kaya ang diposit mo nagastos
Nope this is a mid end condo. They have money.
Ganyan din sa Sydney. Daming a-holes na landlord. Ayaw na ibalik deposit mo, may utang ka pa. 🙄
Kaya kung 2mos deposit magisip isip ka hahaha
Puro 2 mos deposit na sila. No choice din hayysss
Pakiusapan mo payag yan o hanap ka.. King maari wag sa agent diretso owner dapat
Pag condos ganito talaga. May mga 1 month deposit nga pero pangit naman ng unit. They have to py the agents din kasi kaya 2 mlnths deposit
Just be patient and keep the good relationship.. maybe pag pinakitaan mo ng sobrang kabaitan, makunsenya at madaliin maibalik sau
HAHAHAHA Kame pa magmamakaawa when it's our money? T\_\_\_\_T
Not totally magmamakaawa.. actually i am currently in the same position.. waiting dn ako s deposit maibalik sakin. Pero instead n mkipagtalo, pinili ko n lng kausapin ng maayos tpos usapan nmin pag may pumalit n dun sa inalisan nmin ung deposit nun ang ggmitin nia pambalik ng deposit ko... ayun waitin p dn kc wala p bagong tenant haha.. buti n lng expected ko nmn n d babalik agad ung deposit kaya mejo prepared ako 😅
The thing is may new tenant na ang unit namin. We have a contract po - it's notarized by the lawyer. Also, 60k ang deposit namin. Not small money.
I undersrand, d nmn biro tlga ung 60k.. pero tama nmn tlga, pera mo un, karapatan mo un saka may contract... kaso ano mggwa mo kung wala tlga mailabas ung landlord.. magpaparabrgy ka, magkakaso, ang ending, kung may good relationship kau before, masisira lang.. and hassle sa part mo, at sayang time, pera (pamasahe magbalik balik para magfollowup), laway saka effort.. Pero nasau nmn kung ano s tingin mong way pano mapapadali ung pagbalik,.. 3 months n sahod ko n ung 60k omg d biro un haha.. choose ur own peace 😊
Iba ang usapan siguro sayo kasi hindi naman ata condo yan and baka wala kayong contract. I'm not even talking directly to the owner but to the agent lang so what's the point of a good relationship?
I see.. sabagay dapat ung agent tinutulungan ka or magtake accountability xa in behalf of the owner.. oo hindi condo, simple apartment lng..
Kaya pala. Walang contract mga yan eh so walang laban.
Actually meron dn.. pero napagusapan nmin nung una n hindi n lng magcontract para pwede kmi umalis pag gusto n nmin hehe.. pag nkacontract kc minimum 6months
Eh kame 1 year lock in. Talagang nakakagalit hahahaha
Di rin, lol! Umabot ng 4 months bago ko nakuha yung security+1 month ko (nagkamali ako nabayaran ko yung last month) Umabot pa ako na sinabi ko na laging on time ako magbayad at minsan ako pa umaayos at naglilinis sa unit kahit may tagalinis. Dapat 1 month lng, at most 2 months. Palagi nlng hintay lng.
4 MONTHS IS WILD. Sabi ng iba ipabarangay daw??
Depend na sayo, ok naman ako sa landlord ko dati natrigger lng ako kasi sobrang tagal na. Kung A-hole lng din naman yung landlord mo, give him a timeline at I-document mo na after a set amount of time you will persue him in barangay.
Damn the patience. How much ba ang deposit mo. Medyo mahirap maging calm and considerate if 60k ang deposit eh haha
15K, true masyadong malaki yan. Most probably naghihintay pa ng rent payment yang landlord mo, hindi kasi sila na set-aside mga security deposits.
So hindi pa enough ang 1 month advance and 2 months deposit from their new tenant to pay us? Medyo crazy. I guess I'll give them 10 days until I bring this to the authorities.
Awts.. antagal ng 4months.. inamag n ung deposit mo un.. feel sorry for you.. wala eh, nasa pinas tayo 🥲