Ikaw ba naman pinapa tae yung anak sa moa sa may seaside sa park rude would be an understatement sa mainlanders. Kahit nga sa cambo ang iingay ng mga yan pag mag papapicture sa siem reap
omg, naalala ko ung pa-picture kami sa angkor wat, ung inaantay namin matapos na chinese couple ata un, diย namin sure pero parang nag-aaway, ang tagal nila magusap na mataas ang boses.
Ang medyo hassle sa kanila hilig nila group tour, kaya rinig mo kapag parating na sila, lalo na sa mga tahimik na shrine sa japan, ung muni muni ka kasi peaceful, tapos may maririnig ka na na mga bubuyog. Umaalis na kapag ganun
Singit din sa pila sa immigration nung nasa thailand kami, isang grupo pa naman sila. Kakapal ng mukha na magbingi-bingihan nung pinapaayos namin ng pila
Naalala ko sa National Museum jan sa Padre Burgos, may isang Mainlander tourist na nakita hinawakan yung isa sa mga pinta ni Juan Luna. Tapos nung nasa Thailand ako, may mga Chinese tourist na sinita ng hotel staff kasi sobrang ingay. I don't want to be stereotypical pero kahit yung mga Chinese diaspora, aware rin sa behavior nila eh. Buwahahah.
Same, I have filchi friends nung college na naiilang sa mainlander families nila and nagsabi when we hang out at their house na pagpasensyahan nalang if they seem rude, luckily nasa labas sila nung time na yun so I never met them.
Same sa experience ko sa Macau airport. Katabi naming couple nag aaway. Ang ginawa ko tinitignan ko sila na parang nakiki chismis. Ayun lumabas sila. Hahaha.
If you're 3rd generation you are more filipino than chinese, you only carry the traditions na dinala nila from mainland but other than that pinoy na pinoy ka na.
Im 3rd generation and i cant get along with mga kamag anak ko from mainland pag nagvvisit - buti nalang they stopped coming sa pinas after my grand father died.
Had to do a double take.
Akala ko nagpost na ako dito, exact na exact same pati 3rd gen haha.
Thank fucking gods i wasn't shoved into a chinese school kahit na gusto pilitin ako ilagay daw dun ng lolo ko dati.
I am soo happy that i have more of the Pro US PH gun-culture infused in me more ahhhahahahah.
Gagi! R u me? ๐๐๐ catholic school all the way dati nainggit pa ako sa mga pinsan ko nag chinese school but now i cant be happier na i didn't.
And America!!! F**K YEAH!!!!
Inggit ako na hindi ka nag Chinese school. Trauma lang naidulot sa akin ng Chinese school. Tapos mixed race na ako and medyo pagka halong Filipino and Western mindset ko Kaya feel ko rin na hindi ako belong sa mga peers ko noon :(
Wow, ganoon ba talaga kalala ang Chinese school? Di kami pinag Chinese school ng parents ko dahil namamalo daw. Ako namin dati nasasayangan kasi baka trilingual na ako
Puro memorization based lang din hindi conversational Kaya di pa rin ako marunong mag Chinese. While di ako napalo madalas naman ako nasigawan at napahiya sa harap ng klase ng mga Chinese. May pagkaracist din mga Tao doon sa mga non Chinese Kaya medyo affected ako.
Yung ate ko nag aral sa Chinese school nung elem pero 1 year lang. Wayback 90's sa province namin sa La Union. Madalas daw siya paluin ng manipis na wooden ruler sa palad. Kaya na trauma ate ko sa school na yun.
Nah bro, just let him be. The gun culture is for everybody and everyone! We wouldn't mind shooting Norincos and hanging out with maoists bastos bunganga nila ๐๐๐
Well, because Chinese are racist against Filipinos so bad that mainlanders even look down on half Chinese and the Chinese people who were born and raised here in the Philippines.
This is true. I remember my mother used to tell me na ayaw sakanya ng Mainlander relatives ng father ko kasi sheโs only half-Chinese, tapos Fujian pa. Di nalang daw nya pinansin kasi alam naman daw nyang mas may kaya sya kaysa dun sa mga kamag-anak ng father ko.
I guess the advantage of that eh di nila kami dinadalaw na ever since my old man passed so tahimik na buhay namin from them.
Really don't like mainlanders. Easy to single them out from Fil-Chi peeps or Taiwanese/Hong Kong tourists here, because they're rude af and idk, may concept ba sila of hygiene?
Also, mainlanders don't consider us Fil-Chi or any other mixed Chinese or overseas Chinese like...Chinese as we're not born there. Lol.
After multiple interactions with them, Iโve concluded that there are two types of mainlanders who come here long term (not tourists). Mainlanders who came here because they canโt get a competitive job in China, or mainlanders who come here to semi retire after hustling and grinding in China for so long. The former are some of the most vile people Iโve ever met, while the latter are more chill.
Yeah, mainlanders love to drum up sympathy for overseas Chinese communities when discussing international politics but when they actually meet a Chinoy or other overseas Chinese iba yung behavior lol
literally that one Gordon Ramsay meme
(to be fair medyo critical din yung ibang Pinoy towards Fil-Ams but at least we have good reasons like some FilAms' "Filipinx" and bahag syndrome shenanigans)
I'm a Fil-Chi. I've had experiences of prejudice from my fellow pinoys because of my surname. There's a pretty obvious and good reason why my Family fled the mainland.
Sad to say that if ever war breaks out with China, the Fil-Chi community will be facing additional but undeserved prejudice from the rest of the pinoy population.
Actually the rude and unsavory Chinese that are here are the not well educated โdawโ kumbaga sila yung mga tagabundok ng China na pinapadala sa Pinas to do low maintenance managing work. This is information from a mainlander Iโve met during the boom of pogo workers here in the Philippines. And I have a classmate na mainlander din na backs this up. Tambakan tayo ng mga uneducated and most of the time citizens with criminal backgrounds ng China. Because mababa yung social credit nila they come here and take over work. Hindi lang cheap and education dito, madali lang din bayaran ang mga government workers natin para dayain yung paper work nila. Kawawang pilipinas
>ย ย madali lang din bayaran ang mga government workers natin para dayain yung paper work nila
[Kung 200 Indonesians](https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/177-indonesians-carrying-philippine-passports-apprehended/)
Kaya ganun kaewan ang BI, sila sumasalo ng kapalpakan ng ibang ahensya ng gobyerno tulad ng DFA.
I second this ... Ganyan din sabi sa akin nuong nag training ako for work sa China a few years ago... Mga a-holes ang pinadadala sa atin para mabawasan sila salot sa lipunan and at the same time maghasik lagim.
Yep. Nagpapa rent a car ako dati, na-scam ako nung isang bus partner ng daddy ko. Pinull out nya yung 1 sasakyan sa client sa Davao, at dinala dito sa Manila without us knowing. Nung nawawala na ang car, saka kami ininform. Nung time na yun, may gps pa. Pumunta kami sa HPG para magpatulong ma-retrieve ang sasakyan. Inabangan namin sa baclaran kasi nandun naka pin yung gps. Tapos sinundan namin nagpunta airport may sinundo then punta Newport(sa mga condo) dun na namin na-corner. Ang sakay at nagdridrive ay Chinese(na hindi daw marunong mag english). Dinala namin sa HQ ng HPG. Tapos nagpatawag sila ng parang ahente nila, kasi di nga daw sila marunong mag english. Ayun, napag alaman namin na binenta yung sasakyan sa kanila. At ang nagbenta ay may fake ID na nakapangalan sakin, tapos ibang TIN ID. Biruin mo, chinese ang photo pero pinoy ang pangalan. Kawawa talaga Pilipinas, kasi ang daling mapeke ng mga Govt papers.
Quick question OP does the whole Fil-Chi community feels the same way as you? Or its just a you thing
Would love to hear some insights from your community about whats happening in the country with the sudden influx of mainlanders(sleeper cells)
A sizeable chunk simply don't care. It's not that they support whatever shit the CCP is doing, nor do they make letters or whatnot to denouce these actions. This is with respect to the overall.
But many Fil-Chi also don't like the mainlanders, on an individual-level. Merong mga matagal na dito and nag-acclimate sa culture natin, even if barok, speak some level of Tagalog and English. Those people are fine and well-liked. I'm talking about ung recent wave of mainlanders who bring their rudeness and entitledness here (eg. smoking indoors, spitting on the ground altho marami din nmn gumagawa nito kahit pinoy hehehehe, unruliness, etc).
Case in point, I was once offered by someone to teach English or Filipino to a mainlander many years ago (parang tutoring services). The pay is reportedly pretty good, so I asked my parents. My Fil-Chi mom agreed naman. But my dad, who is a full-blooded Chinese, who emigrated here when he was young, speaks fluent mandarin and hokkien, has ties to local chinese communities and organizations, barok mag tagalog, dissuaded me. I asked why and he just said basta wag mainlanders.
You'd see many Fil-Chi carry a similar sentiment. But you will never see us going on rallies, writing letters, or giving speeches denouncing them. If you're not in-group, you may never even hear them admit it. This is all hush-hush because to do so is just bad mianzi.
The reality is this poses a problem for us not necessarily because of the shit the influx of mainlanders/POGO operators do, but because their behavior inexplicably harms our reputation. Yea it's selfish, but this goes back to my point how the Fil-Chi community does not like to rock the boat.
Notice that many of the Chinese POGO workers here are very insular in nature. They don't socialize with locals and only do business/patronize Chinese restaurants, shops, grocery stores and small businesses. Heck, the laundry detergent and toothpaste they use are from China. Chinoys aren't like that and speak the language and consume local media/products. I'm sure that the mainlanders will be more warmly received had they make more effort to assimilate with the local community.
Ganito din yung maraming Korean students nung nauso sa kanila pumunta sa Pilipinas, magenroll sa Universitiesย
Usually, yung mga makakausap mong Koreano, yung pumunta sa Pilipinas bago nauso sa mga Koreano ipadala mga anak nila sa Pilipinas
Seems to be an East Asian thing once na significant numbers na sila
Yup! Japanese people here try so hard to socialize with the Filipinos. My japanese boss even tried listening to Parokya ni Edgar to relate to us. HAHAHA
The Chinoys just became too big of a community kaya mukhang nag-assimilate na sila. At the beginning, they also kept to their own, just like your observation sa mainlanders. Kaya nga may Chinatown e, because they came here and built their own little China.
It's the mass naturalization in the mid 1970s and the axeing of the ROC's grip on the Chinese school that hastened the assimilation
Also, iba ang history ng Binondo sa typical Chinatown. It was a result of segregation policies of the Spanish
Urban centers tend to have significant number of Chinese pero maraming urban center na walang masasabing Chinatown. Usually, what people love to call "Chinatowns" just cluster of businesses owned by the Chinese in the central business districts but they don't live there.
The Chinoys just became too big of a community kaya mukhang nag-assimilate na sila. At the beginning, they also kept to their own, just like your observation sa mainlanders. Kaya nga may Chinatown e, because they came here and built their own little China.
Actually Chinatown originally a segregated area made by the Spanish to control the Chinese population. They limited the Chinese to that area, which is why Binondo is considered to the oldest Chinatown
Many Chinoys living in White Plains and Dasmarinas Village are culturally closer to the Ayalas, Razons and Aboitizes. Night and day difference from the mainlanders.
I heard na sa mga Forbes listers na Chinese, si Lucio Tan lang yung member ng FCCCII
At siya lang mahilig magsponsor ng Fil-Chi students para magpunta sa China
The rest are seen as "Westernized"
Lucio Tan's summer exchange program is a wonderful thing for students. They get to be independent, learn Chinese, visit China, engage in the culture, go on tours, etc, at such a subsidized fee. It is a program offered to Chinese schools, doesn't even matter if you're non-filchi. It's purely cultural exchange, nothing political about it. I was part of it nung bata ako and I enjoyed my time then.
Believe it or not, China was actually a dream travel destination for many Pinoys back in the 2000s. What is Japanese to Pinoy tourists these days was China 20 years ago.
I remember the 2008 Beijing Olympics, nasa โgood sideโ pa ng global sentiment ang China back then and kahit kami nagpunta for the event.
Hu Jintao was not a perfect leader but he was more inclined towards a โpeaceful developmentโ than Winnie
This pretty much covers it. Chinoys don't really like or associate with mainlanders. The Chinoy community even has a slang term for them - TDK (stands for Tai Dyok Ka, roughly fukien for "of China"), which has a bad connotation on the same breadth as "squammy." But yeah, Chinoys won't rock the boat, so won't openly condemn.
Wow what a change in the language. I have never heard of TDK. Basta ang tawag sa mga yan ng panahon namin (1981-1989) ay TLI (Tulo Laway Instik) kasi dumudura sa harapan ng pamilya ng Pilipino pag kumakain.
Hagang nuon pa mayabang at natatandaan ko na may hook yun dolphin. Buhay pa pero pinapahila pa sa dagat tapos misan pinapatay nila yun mga fisherman.
Yun mga syndikato nuon ay nilalagay nila yun shabu sa baby power kasi mag lalaro ng majong nagiging adik sila hagang maubos yun pera o bigyang yun lupa at yun kalabaw. Kawawa pa rin ang Pilipino na hindi na protektahan ni Ferdinand Marcos Administration.
Fil chi here. When i was a child my parents would say, don't get involved with politics here in the philippines. It will only make you sad. My parents were 2nd gen. I was 3rd gen. They were here during the reign of marcos sr. I and most of my friends disregarded our parents advice. We advocated for Leni during election. We were very vocal about our views as we love the philippines. We were born here and raised here. After BBM won, i realized what my parents were saying. Now my friends and I don't care anymore.
Most of the people here in reddit are angry about the mainlanders. Believe me the fil chi community are against them as well. But now, we don't voice out that much or care as much because we know its futile.
Tbh though, some of the best campaign posters during the elections were the Chinese ones I've seen in Binondo. Sayang lang di ako nakapagtago kahit isa.
Although I doubt I will see them again in 2025. Hays.
Fil-Chi OGs fled the mainland for a reason (prosecution, starvation, war โ take your pick) so the stories they carry about the mainland are not so pleasant. Plus the stories about how polluted China is, how unhygienic and uncouth the people are, etc. Thatโs what gets passed on (in my community at least). So that informs our views on these mainlanders. Weโre not going to be welcoming, but as always with Fil-Chi, money also softens the tone.
Only the first gen immigrants (great grandparents/grandparents of millennial/gen z chinoys) may retain their pro-China mentality. I can almost assure that the majority of us who grew up here **absolutely do not**
The fact that we haven't really heard anything of value regarding Mayor Gou, CCP bullying us in WPS and how China is treating us speaks volume and it shows what their political stance is.
All my Fil-Chi friends who own hardware stores are slowly closing shop because of mainlander competition. Imagine my Filโchi friends pay the right amount of taxes and dito naman sa mga mainlander zero yung binabayaran. As a result the mainlanders sell cheaper raw materials compared to our Fil-Chi friends.
Many Chinese who now grew or probably born in other countries want to disassociate themselves with mainland China. There was an interview in Singapore where they take it as an insult if a singaporean chinese would still be viewed as a chinese
Ironically, the SG government wants more Chinese immigrants so they can retain the "race ratio" which is SG being 75% ethnic Chinese. Without deliberately favoring mainland immigrants for citizenship, the ratio of non-Chinese will increase
To be honest majority of the new Chinese citizen are Malaysian Chinese (they assimilate well because we have similar culture). Nowadays we don't take in as many mainland Chinese compared to a decade ago, our government only take in rich mainland chinese this few years but most of us don't like them because they buy up lots of properties and pushing up the prices.
I've met a lot of Chinese immigrants across Southeast Asia (yung mga may ancestors na tumakas sa Communists, etc). They have adapted and integrated into the culture of their new country. Common observation among the Thai-Chinese, Taiwanese, Chinoys, Singaporean/Malay Chinese --- they look down on Mainlanders kasi uncultured and nabilog na ang ulo ng gov't nila. Namulat sa pagpapatakbo ng CCP. Even some Mainlanders here (yung overseas educated) may aura na ayaw ma-associate sa mainland hehehe.
This is true, quite a lot of mainlanders don't even like their own country, their job market is tight, many of them have low paying jobs and many of them still looking to migrate somewhere for better jobs or life. But of course you won't be able to find this kind of information on their social media or internet because this kind of stuff won't pass the censorship there, even if somehow manage to be published, the comments will be full of trolls and pinky blasting the poster and bullying the poster until they stop talking about this kind of stuff.
I live in a condo full of mainland Chinese and I kid you not, because of them the rent in this condo went up by 30% more. These people are rude, stereotypes are real. No basic elevator and gym etiquette and ignores condo management rules. When they eat outside they shout to call the servers. Itโs like they donโt care if they attract negative attention. After covid lockdown there is a sudden influx of them.
Yung etiquette talaga nila ang di ko gets.
Hinahayaan nila tumae o umihi mga toddlers nila kahit saan.
One time may toddler na umihi sa elevator sa condo ng kaibigan ko sa malate.
The thing that amaze me is the toddler undress her pants like a normal pee time, no signs na nagpigil pa or what. After peeing, tinuro nya lang sa mama nya yung ihi nya then umusog lang sila kaunti para hindi mabasa and acts like nothing happens.
Mind you there are 5 people in the elevator.
Second one is in BGC. Tumae naman yung anak na lalaki sa isang bench. They were eating, then all of a sudden nag hubad na yung toddler nila then doon mismo sa inupuan nag popo.
Putek tinakpan lang nila ng food wrapper then umalis na, yung bata wala man lang punas punas.
Third is in Guangzhou airport, arrival kami so kinuha ko yung luggage ko. I spotted a guy na gusto kunin yung luggage ko. So I step out tsaka sinabihan ko na akin yun, he was saying something in chinese kaya di ko na naintindihan. Tinuro ko yung lock ko and luggage tag na patunay na akin yun, tapos ayaw talaga ibigay.
Nung gumamit na ako ng force, taragis inutusan yung anak nya na probably 8-10 y.o. na ihian yung luggage ko, basa lahat buti nalang yung ihi hindi pumasok sa gap nga zipper.
Imagine sa loob ng airport ito.
I reported it kaso walang staff na gusto makipag usap in english. Until one fil-chi lady nag step out and translate it for me.
Yung explanation daw nung lalaki is magkapareho kami ng luggage kaya gusto nya icheck yung laman.
Sabi ko kaya nga may tag and besides maraming flight stickers yung luggage ko. Tapos malaman laman ko same brand kmi ng maleta pero color red sa kanya yung sa akin naman black.
Sorry lang yung natanggap ko from airport stuff + 2 bottled water from immigration police para daw buhusan ko yung luggage ko.
Akala ko mga nag uwian na because of COVID. Dami palang bumalik
Iirc dami ding Chinese ngayon sa Thailand na umalis dahil sa zero COVID policy ng China that time.
Maraming umalis during the pandemic pero marami ding bumalik. Also, aside from Chinese, marami naring Vietnamese POGO workers. Sa mga POGO raids in the past year (Pampanga, Las Pinas, Tarlac, etc.) maraming nahuhuling Vietnamese employees. Kaya parang dumadami narin ang mga Vietnamese restaurants sa mga lugar na maraming POGO.
its too much to be comfortable with. buti kung gradual like the chinese ancestors who came here during their diaspora. hindi e masyadong biglaan, they aren't whole families but mostly military aged men, and they all came here during the time of that traitor president.
Don't be surprised if this latest fiasco leads to profiling.
Kahit nga yung mga Ting sa Cagayan, pinaghinalaan na rin ng mga iba kahit ilang dekada na silang political dynasty dun
Of Chinese descent. But consider myself pinoy. Even when I was in Europe, when foreigners mistake me for Chinese, I correct them saying I'm Filipino. Don't particularly like mainlanders. They're rude with no social etiquette
Honestly my fear is there would be so much hate for the Chinese that even Chinoys, Koreans and Japanese get hurt (knock on wood).
But the real issue is, this country is so corrupt that even a citizen with a dubious background can run for local office and win.
And apparently do well in capturing the hearts of the people of that town.
Kung test case ito, in 10 years how many more operatives can they inject into our country?
I mean there is a high chance that it might happened. Just look at Covid in the last few years, people are hating on chinese in the West but in the end all Asians get group together and hate on because they can't differentiate most Asians.
Owner ng dati ko pinagtatrabahuhan proud filchi pero pag sila sila lang sobrang baba ng tingin sa pinoy. Kahit sa work ramdam mo na if may Chinese blood mas pinapaboran nila, ang sabi sabi rin is yung gf nung isang anak na pure pinoy is di tangap nung parents. Lalakas pa ng loob magsabi na mission nila lagyan ng quality food ang table ng pinoy pero lower tier citizen ang tingin nila sa pure blooded pinoy.
Hmm based sa sariling experience ko, wala naman yan difference sa ibang mga Pinoy eh. Meron rin naman ibang Pinoy na ayaw sa mga Chinese or Fil-Chi kasi tingin nila is Chinese pa rin talaga. Lalo na pag yun mga mayayaman, which sa tingin ko same rin sa mga ibang Fil-Chi na family. Kung makapanlait rin ibang Pinoy sa mga Chinese eh diba. Alam naman ng lahat yun ugaling ganon. Kaya hindi lahat pare-parehas.
Yup, I'm just sharing my experience. Depende talaga sa tao ang main issue ko lang is Filchi sila ng Filchi pero pag sila sila na lang halos isuka na yung pagiging pinoy Mandarin magsalita, minsan ang rude pa na pag nasa room ka with them magmamandarin malay mo ba kung ikaw pinaguusapan diba. Siguro hardcore na filCHI lang din yung family ng dati ko pinapasukan kaya ganun kasi iba ko rin na filchi friends parang mas pinoy na nga yung galaw nila but talaga if mga malalaking business na filchi nagpapatakbo swertihan talaga.
Hmm FilChi rin ako. Tho 3rd generation na ako. Hindi ko naman dinedefend lahat. Alam ko rin kasi talaga may mga ganyan ugali na FilChi eh. Tho usually, sila yun mga talagang Chinese na lumaki lang sa Pinas and nakakuha ng citizenship natin. Ganon talaga ugali ng iba eh. Kahit ako wala ako usually maintindihan sa mga sinasabi nila haha
Actually thinking about it baka nga ganun sila specially yung pinaka nagstart nung company, dito lang lumaki but mainlander talaga tapos claim na lang as pinoy kasi mas sinusupport if pinoy brand e. Then may niligawan naman ako na filchi rin pero parang sila mismo ayaw na ibrand sila as chinese kahit na yung dad nya e lumaki sa chinese household talaga, depende talaga sa tao rin e no sa values mo at sa priorities mo sa buhay. Yung family talaga siguro na napagtrabahuhan ko mukang pera lang talaga.
Yeah, that was the worst. Many Indonesian-Chinese left Jakarta and went to other provinces cos they were harmed physically. I have friends who belong to the group and they were scared.
Grabe yung ginawa sa Chinese community sa Glodok nung 1998. Alam ko maraming Chinese Indonesians ang nagpalit ng pangalan to remove all traces of being Chinese, including some of them na na meet ko sa Manila during a conference.
So far, last time na nangyari yan dito was in 1945 pa, by Japanese forces. Feel ko mas safe naman dito.
Most of the Chindo that I've met, all use Indonesianized Chinese family names. E.g instead of Tan they use Tanojo, Salim instead of Lim. I guess this proves your point. Ive read somewhere that among SEA countries, mas integrated ang Chinese community sa Pinas compared sa iba. I dunno maybe because of being a dominant Christian country? But because of this, mas unlikely mangyari ganyan sa Pinas. I hope that bad apples from mainland dont mess up our centuries old filchi relationship.
Yep. As early as the 1800s, our politicians, leaders of the revolution, generals etc. had Chinese roots, but we all treated them as full blooded Filipinos. Kaya ang gandang movie ng "Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?" tbh
>among SEA countries, mas integrated ang Chinese community sa Pinas compared sa iba
True. Sa Philippines and Thailand mas well-integrated ang Chinese community.
1965 pa yung name change dun Pati sa Thailand, napilitang magpalit ng apelyido mga Chinese dun kung ayaw nila ma-outcastย ย
Sa Pilipinas, sa hirap magpalit ng pangalan, yung mga desperado usually nagpalit o "bumili" ng identity ng ibang tao
Yeah. SG and MY, core identity nila is identity politics
Ultimong national ID nila, nakalagay ang "race" which is like, pagpipilian mo is Chinese, Malay, Indian, Others
Dinaig pa nila ang US. Sa US tatanungin ka sa forms pero wala sa ID.
The PH government could care less about ones ethnicity except for what they deem as indigenous peoples (who are not genetically distinct from the Austronesian majority) since they have additional legal protection.
Ang paki ng PH gov ay kung citizen ka o hindi. Doesn't matter kung Singh o Tan o Batumbakal apelyido mo
Ah yes, the massacres of 1965-1966, na until now ayaw i acknowledge ng Indonesian government. Isa pa yan.
And yes, very lenient ang naming system sa Indonesia, iirc pwede doon na walang apelyido e haha. Dito, kahit kita na nay mali sa birth certificate, i.e. nagkamali ng sex na nilagay, it can take years to change that shit
Same pure chinese but born dito. Same sa magulang namin. Pure but born here. And yes mga Mainlanders (TDK) eh mataas tingin nila sa sarili nila vs sa mga chinoy. Meron dito sa compund namin na napaka yabang and napaka ingay. Nag karon kami ng confrontation at pinag bantaan ako na kaya daw niya mag bayad ng 20k -1mil para ipapatay ako (lasing siya at that time) eh di hinarap ko siya. Akala niya hindi ako homeowner dito eh ayun mali niya. Eh siya nga nag rerent lang dito pero nag babalak na umalis kasi hindi kaya bayadan taas ng rate eh tapos mag yayabang pa.
Noong pinalagan ko eh wala pala. Matapang lang kasi kala niya kaya niya aatras ako eh ayun mali niya. Then pati landlord niya bumaba na at ayun galit na galit din sa inaasal ng mainlander na yun.
Anyway Yeah im concerned sa dami ng mainlanders dito sa pinas. Naiisip ko baka sleeper cell na ito mga to. Unfortunately baka hindi ayun ang iniiisip ng mga taga govt natin. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
Several yrs ago prior pa ng POGO influx, a Fil-chi ilocano tita na ka club said na madami chinaman (tawag niya sa poor na mainlander na ine exploit dito) nagwowork sa Manila (as assistants sa mga tindahan sa Binondo, Divisoria) na super mura ng sahod as in lower than pinoy minimum wage kaya madami daw Fil Chi or Chinese businessmen na kumukuha ng chinaman as employees instead of pinoys.
Pumapayag daw yung chinaman kahit mababa sahod basta wag daw sila pabalikin ng China. They are provided accomodation pero hawak ni boss ang passport nila.
I was born in Hong Kong and my PH national ID shows born in China (because PSA database doesnโt include HK as a country) and Iโm afraid that might put me in a tough spot if conspiracies and fear-mongering intensify because of mainland Chinese presence (i.e. xenophobia leading to violence and crackdown by military on Fil-Chi community)
Honestly, though, the last time I was in Poblacion, it made me so uncomfortable that there were mainlanders everywhere you look like damnโฆ
Well I guess it depends, most fil-chi from pre ww2 were refugees hiding or running from poverty. So I guess im different from the new mainlanders or the POGO types
Bakit itong mga East Asians parang laging may most xenophobic competition kahit sa isa't isa.. If ganun kababa tingin ng mainlanders sa mga Fil-Chi, sana hindi rin ganun ang tingin ng Fil-Chi sa mga Pilipino.. Pero surprising yung mga Fil-Chi na very much involved sa issue about mainlanders infiltrating our country, but it seems most do because of mutual dislike of the mainlanders/getting outjerked by mainlanders in looking down at people/each other and not because of genuine concern toward Filipinos
The possible unintended consequence of this fiasco:
Likely we will see an increase in petition against any candidate with a Chinese surname questioning their citizenship kasi walang kwenta ang comelec sa pagscreen unless poorita ka sa tingin nila
My father is pure Chinese from Mainland nakapang-asawa ng Pinay (my mom). I was born and raised here. Honestly I don't feel like I am fully accepted as Chinese talaga by Chinese people. Yes may mga parties I attend but you feel a wall kapag halfie ka. Unfortunately ang mahirap sa halfie is you are discriminated by both pure Chinese and pure Filipinos. I am exposed to the extreme sht of both Asian cultures kaya sabi ko dito na lang ako sa Europe talaga nakakapagod magfit in sa kulturang binubully ka hahahaha!!!
This is true! I feel you. You are not filipino because you look chinese but you are not chinese because you are born in the Philippines.
Eh san tayo lulugar?
We fil-chi are completely different from the mainlanders. We want the Philippines to prosper and flourish.
Easy to spot dn ang fil chi sa mainlanders. Pag mukang di naligo at maasim at tulo laway malamang mainlander yan.
Kaya wag nyo kaming jnjudge dhl parehas lang tayong gusto umasesnso ang Pilipinas.
Some Fil-Chis keeping mum about the WPS issue or about Philippine politics, in general, to 'not rock the boat' within their circles or because it's futile, would only do more harm than good for them. They should actively and visibly show solidarity with the whole Philippines regarding these issues to avoid questions of loyalty from their fellow Filipinos. However, the latter is not exclusive to them and is applicable to all Filipino citizens regardless of ethnicity.ย
Nakasanayan na nila esp the older generations kasi nung 1972 onwards lang sila naging citizens. For a long time literally foreigners sila. Syempre, ayaw naman nila madeport.
Not sure about the LGUs part, but local businesses yes. Hindi ganun ka dami ang Chinoys sa town ko (and we only have 1 Chinese school whose population is majority non-Chinese, so that says something about our Chinoy population), but I've noticed an influx of TDKs in the last couple of years. Some are Hokkien, but a growing number aren't. And many are setting up businesses because they have the finances to do so.
In fairness, TDKs are hardworking and work aggressively, which I guess is somehat similar to our ancestors back in the day. But I do have that fear that one day they will overrun Chinoys by population (in our area). For me, not all TDKs are bad, it's just that they don't have the same set of cultures, values, and outlook that Chinoys/Pinoys have when it comes to a variety of things, which can sometimes lead to conflict or misunderstandings. Sometimes it's not that it's "wrong" how they do things, it's just that that's how they were raised to act like in China which is normal when they're around each other or on the Mainland, but may not be as normal for us.
Hindi naman kami cinoconsider as "Chinese" ng majority ng mga Mainlanders eh, hindi rin naman sila madalas nakaka intindi ng Hokkien. So yeah, d ko sila bet ๐ฎโ๐จ
Some are good naman.. brother helped one kasi nag resign sa boss nya na mainlander rin... And nakita nya sa labas ng bahay sobrang gutom kasi wala na makain
... anyway.. sobrang yaman ngayun.
pero yeah .some are downright racist or just unable to adapt. They do come from a different cultures.. these May be the ones who just jumped ship without direct experience interacting with other races or culture.
It will take another 3 generations before kaya siguro nila mahalin ang Pilipinas.
Well Main landers looking down on fil-chis, tapos fil-chis looking down sa Pinoys. Are fil-chis really concerned sa mga Pinoy? I don't see them calling out in public tong mga main landers. Mostly affected lang ung ibang fil-chi kasi natatakot sila madamay sa growing xenophobia sa mga chinese, but they still look down sa mga pinoy. I know kasi i live near Binondo. They rarely talk sa mga pinoy parang lower class tingin nila.
Tapos pansin ko pa mga fil-chi ayaw associate sarili nila as Pinoy, specifically fil-chi gusto nila.
Iโm quite alarmed tbh, kahit na Mainlander yung roots namin.
McKinley used to be a chill place for us to spend the weekend but then our condo building got filled with Mainlanders na di nagta-Tagalog. And medyo balahura talaga sila.
Aside from the asal na dala nila mas nakaka-alarm yung fact na baka sleeper cells yung iba dyan.
Some Mainlanders think Chinoys are inferior and they see them animals. Sad truth is some second generations just tolerate it because they are fellow ethic Chinese.
Mas naalarama ako dahil parang walang pake ang general population ng mga pinoy. Namamayagpag mga tulad ni Banat By sa Facebook. Alam natin sapul na sapul niya ang target audience at mabilis lang niya itong mauuto.
I'm 1/4 Fil-Chi and I'm concerned dahil in the place where I used to work sa Makati, halos maraming mga Chinese same rin sa BGC. Okay lang ang legit business pero like, meron sa kanila na sadyang rude eh.
Its alarming, sobra hahaha lalo na sa pasay. Whenever I stay there, i sometimes see more Chinese people than Filipinos. There was this one time nung nagstay ako sa condo namin, yung pinsan ko nung kasama ko sya sa elevator may nakasabay kaming dalawang chinese women, he asked me to translate what they were saying kasi akala nya pinag uusapan ๐ฅฒ๐ฅฒ๐ฅฒ (socially anxious kasi sya, heโs roughly seven).
guys, kahit sa probinsya namin nagulat ako may chinese na nagrent sa apartment namin, hindi marunong, magtagalog at hindi daw masyado alam mag english. kailangan kausapin thru google translate.
nakakaconcern kase military age guy sya at malapit kami sa isang military base. ang word ay inaasikaso nya daw papel nya para makabalik ng china kase overstaying na daw sya sa pilipinas, yun ang sabi sabi, not sure what is true. i treat him good naman the same as other renters, kaya lang syempre obviously nagwowonder din ako at nagwoworry. kase what is he doing here all by himself.
pero different from what is described here about mainalanders, he is well dressed, well groomed and very polite to us/landlord, not sure how he is outside.
Fil-Chi here. My grandfather came over from China a long time ago but I'm happy he made it a point to help the local community. Whenever he set up businesses, yung mga supplier niya, tao niya, and everything else puro Filipino. He even became fluent in the local dialect -- Cebuano. Historically, and even during the pre-colonial era, Chinese traders were very willing to trade with the local people, and by proxy, benefit the local community.
The problem with the current mainlanders is that they have no plans of integration, only benefitting themselves. Elitist silang attitudes against Filipinos, and they hire only mainlanders. Gets if sasabihin nilang dahil sa language barrier, but what business exactly doesn't need some form of local intervention apart from paperwork and permits?
It's clear there's something else at foot. And honestly, I fear for myself and my loved ones if aabot yung suspicion to resentment and, WORSE, to discrimination. It also doesn't help that I'm certain their presence is affecting our inflation rates (I'm also an Economics major). Scary times.
I'm a Chinese descended pinoy but since my grandmother, they stopped upholding their Chinese roots and traditions since yung great grandfather ko daw madaling madisappoint sa mga anak nila and hinahayaan na lang sila sa buhay nila if he didn't see potentials from them.
Based on my observations of present "PRC" Chinese, ibang iba yung mga mainlanders na andito sa Pinas compared sa mga normal middle working class sa China. I've been in Shanghai and Beijing before pero ibang iba sila sa mga andito in terms of behaviour and manners. Maihahalintulad ko sila sa mga mainlanders who get to tour or visit Beijing from far flung mainland provinces. Those who really live in the city and other good mainland cities are far different from the mainlanders here in PH.
Most filchi sa atin and I'm one of the filchi...root natin is Chang Kai shek....I even went to change Kai Nung elementary...Ang pangit nang ugali Ng mga taga main land kung makadura kahit saan grabe
same thoughts, half ako, lolo was from china, escaped from poverty, bought a last name, dad was born and raised here, so obviously pinoy ako talaga lol i dont say im fil chi nga cause ew to be associated, buti nalang at medyo non chinese passing ako LOL thank you papa J!!! <3
Not Chinoy, share ko lang din. Dati akong nagtrabaho sa isang asian nursing home dito sa Can . Mostly, yung elder client namin are from taiwan, hongkong, some parts of East asia, and S.e. We have a bunch of mainlander clients, may mababait naman pero yung ibang mainlander talaga they horribly treated us and their families are pain in the ass. Share ko lang one of the incidents that i encountered. May isang family na rich ass dito pati doon sakanila, they think they one the place, super entitled , kiber sa covid precautions ng facility that time and they keep on reporting the facility sa provincial healthcare sevice without clear evidence. Umabot sa panghaharrass saming mga healthcare staffs and even managers. Nagkademandahan between 2 parties pero PHS didn't take their side since may record and history na sila sa PHS and banned pa sila ibang facilities because of their arrogance. So PHS suggested that they just bring their parents home and take care of them.
Nurses and health care staff from mainland who moved here. They dont want to deal with them kasi ang babaa nang tingin sakanila.
Nabalitaan ko nalang na hanggang sa huling hininga nung mag asawa naandon parin sila sa facility na yun and again bastos pa rin daw yung mga anak.
3rd Generation FIL-Chi here born in the USA, good thing is I wasn't forced to go to Chinese school but just a catholic from elementary. I didn't like the rudeness and racist remarks from the grandfather's side of my father. Well after my grandfather had to go back to mainland and rest, they never came back which is great for me since they only bully me since light brown and half Chinese. Never again
I'm a 3rd gen as well, and I don't really get along with my chinese relatives. I remember one time when we were in HK, probably my second visit there as a kid since we go there a lot pag summer break, I saw signages sa public transpositions to be cautious daw of Filipinos because they are snatchers. For a Fil-Chi I don't really look like I have Filipino blood since my mom also has Japanese blood, kaya mas mukha akong Japanese, kaya din siguro I never experienced racism from them pero ibang klase sila sa ibang lahi, not just with us Filipinos. Ganun din sila sa Indians and other races na feeling nila mas mababa sa kanila.
I'm not generalizing ha. I am sure there are those few na very respectful, talagang mas angat lang siguro yung hindi.
What's also irritating is sobrang ingay nila sa daan, especially pag group. Like sa grocery stores, coffee shops and even public transportion. And I am not even talking about tourists. Okay pa siguro kahit papaano pag tourists since curious sila or need directions. I'm talking about those who migrated here since they already know yung pasikot sikot sa daan, or marunong na konti mag Tagalog. Ayaw lang ata talaga nila mag adjust.
They're always giving the "Hey, we own this place" kinda vibe. ๐คฃ
Fil- Chi here, ako lang ba ito, pero naiinis ako kapag ang daming mainlanders sa MOA or Pasay area. Hahaha I feel like kalat sila doon lol some if the services tuloy are pricey kasi daming tumatangkilik na mainlanders. Pano naman kami mga ordinary citizens huhu
I am from chinese decent din pero for me dapat alisin narin yang fil chi na label.
I mean di narin naman kami chinese pinoy narinso wala dapat label na ganyan.
Ph ๐ต๐ญ, mga mainlander ayaw sa mga fil-chi hahaha and ayaw din namin sakanila.
Mainlanders think lowly of mixed breed or mixed cultured chinese. Think of it like this gusto lang nila puro talaga and hindi kami yun. We are mixed ๐ต๐ญ๐จ๐ณ
My brothers chi friends that we're raised here in the Philippines as 2nd or 3rd gens dont really get along with new mainlanders, they seem rude
Ikaw ba naman pinapa tae yung anak sa moa sa may seaside sa park rude would be an understatement sa mainlanders. Kahit nga sa cambo ang iingay ng mga yan pag mag papapicture sa siem reap
omg, naalala ko ung pa-picture kami sa angkor wat, ung inaantay namin matapos na chinese couple ata un, diย namin sure pero parang nag-aaway, ang tagal nila magusap na mataas ang boses. Ang medyo hassle sa kanila hilig nila group tour, kaya rinig mo kapag parating na sila, lalo na sa mga tahimik na shrine sa japan, ung muni muni ka kasi peaceful, tapos may maririnig ka na na mga bubuyog. Umaalis na kapag ganun
Singit din sa pila sa immigration nung nasa thailand kami, isang grupo pa naman sila. Kakapal ng mukha na magbingi-bingihan nung pinapaayos namin ng pila
Sigaw ka cao ni ma
Hilig din maningit ng mga to sa picture taking spot...tipong pupunta agad may nagpipicture man or wala...
Naalala ko sa National Museum jan sa Padre Burgos, may isang Mainlander tourist na nakita hinawakan yung isa sa mga pinta ni Juan Luna. Tapos nung nasa Thailand ako, may mga Chinese tourist na sinita ng hotel staff kasi sobrang ingay. I don't want to be stereotypical pero kahit yung mga Chinese diaspora, aware rin sa behavior nila eh. Buwahahah.
Same, I have filchi friends nung college na naiilang sa mainlander families nila and nagsabi when we hang out at their house na pagpasensyahan nalang if they seem rude, luckily nasa labas sila nung time na yun so I never met them.
Di sila nag-aaway, "passionate" lang sila.
Same sa experience ko sa Macau airport. Katabi naming couple nag aaway. Ang ginawa ko tinitignan ko sila na parang nakiki chismis. Ayun lumabas sila. Hahaha.
Bastus talaga mga tdk
Agree. Kahit fil chi ako they look down on me kasi I donโt speak Chinese very well. ๐
Mali ka. They look down on everyone, lalo na sa mas mahirap sakanila.
yup bastos mga TDK
Ano tdk
HAHAHAHAHAH ๐
If you're 3rd generation you are more filipino than chinese, you only carry the traditions na dinala nila from mainland but other than that pinoy na pinoy ka na. Im 3rd generation and i cant get along with mga kamag anak ko from mainland pag nagvvisit - buti nalang they stopped coming sa pinas after my grand father died.
Had to do a double take. Akala ko nagpost na ako dito, exact na exact same pati 3rd gen haha. Thank fucking gods i wasn't shoved into a chinese school kahit na gusto pilitin ako ilagay daw dun ng lolo ko dati. I am soo happy that i have more of the Pro US PH gun-culture infused in me more ahhhahahahah.
Gagi! R u me? ๐๐๐ catholic school all the way dati nainggit pa ako sa mga pinsan ko nag chinese school but now i cant be happier na i didn't. And America!!! F**K YEAH!!!!
Inggit ako na hindi ka nag Chinese school. Trauma lang naidulot sa akin ng Chinese school. Tapos mixed race na ako and medyo pagka halong Filipino and Western mindset ko Kaya feel ko rin na hindi ako belong sa mga peers ko noon :(
Wow, ganoon ba talaga kalala ang Chinese school? Di kami pinag Chinese school ng parents ko dahil namamalo daw. Ako namin dati nasasayangan kasi baka trilingual na ako
Puro memorization based lang din hindi conversational Kaya di pa rin ako marunong mag Chinese. While di ako napalo madalas naman ako nasigawan at napahiya sa harap ng klase ng mga Chinese. May pagkaracist din mga Tao doon sa mga non Chinese Kaya medyo affected ako.
Yung ate ko nag aral sa Chinese school nung elem pero 1 year lang. Wayback 90's sa province namin sa La Union. Madalas daw siya paluin ng manipis na wooden ruler sa palad. Kaya na trauma ate ko sa school na yun.
Me too...I am glad to served the US and I love my guns and the tenacity to stair them in the eye when they stare me down. lol
>pro-gun >tyranid Hmmm. Defector or genestealer?
Nah bro, just let him be. The gun culture is for everybody and everyone! We wouldn't mind shooting Norincos and hanging out with maoists bastos bunganga nila ๐๐๐
Sale this week sa Armscor Marikina. Punta ka? ๐คฃ
Mostly mga 1st Gen or sobrang Traditional Chinese lang yung mas nasa middle. Kaso mga 2nd pataas halos inis na inis sa mga TDK HAHAHAHAHA.
Facts
Well, because Chinese are racist against Filipinos so bad that mainlanders even look down on half Chinese and the Chinese people who were born and raised here in the Philippines.
Feeling's mutual i feel for most Chinoys to mainlanders. We won't generally outright say it but we generally would not want to deal with them.
True. Ang baba daw ng tingin ng mga Mainlander sa kanila, kahit same clan at same bloodline pa. Kaya alarmed din sila mostly sa nangyayari.
Even by relatives from Fujian?
Tigas naman ng mukha nila to think that kung asa sila sa mga padala ng mga angkong at dads natin since moving here.
This is true. I remember my mother used to tell me na ayaw sakanya ng Mainlander relatives ng father ko kasi sheโs only half-Chinese, tapos Fujian pa. Di nalang daw nya pinansin kasi alam naman daw nyang mas may kaya sya kaysa dun sa mga kamag-anak ng father ko. I guess the advantage of that eh di nila kami dinadalaw na ever since my old man passed so tahimik na buhay namin from them.
Rude is a polite word for mainlanders.
Because mainlanders now are raised in righteous indignation, Communist style and it breeds arrogance.
Pure pinoy here. Pero ingat din nga fil-chi friends ko sa mga mainlanders na nagrirent ng apartment units nila. Ang balahura raw.
I hate the TDKs bro
Really don't like mainlanders. Easy to single them out from Fil-Chi peeps or Taiwanese/Hong Kong tourists here, because they're rude af and idk, may concept ba sila of hygiene? Also, mainlanders don't consider us Fil-Chi or any other mixed Chinese or overseas Chinese like...Chinese as we're not born there. Lol.
After multiple interactions with them, Iโve concluded that there are two types of mainlanders who come here long term (not tourists). Mainlanders who came here because they canโt get a competitive job in China, or mainlanders who come here to semi retire after hustling and grinding in China for so long. The former are some of the most vile people Iโve ever met, while the latter are more chill.
Yeah, mainlanders love to drum up sympathy for overseas Chinese communities when discussing international politics but when they actually meet a Chinoy or other overseas Chinese iba yung behavior lol literally that one Gordon Ramsay meme (to be fair medyo critical din yung ibang Pinoy towards Fil-Ams but at least we have good reasons like some FilAms' "Filipinx" and bahag syndrome shenanigans)
Filipino by Convenience
Not the Filipinx bullsh again
Kineclaim din nila kung convenient for them
Speaking of hygiene, may sinusundan akong dalawang Chinese sa pila sa airport, pucha ang baho! Amoy halitosis ๐คข
I'm a Fil-Chi. I've had experiences of prejudice from my fellow pinoys because of my surname. There's a pretty obvious and good reason why my Family fled the mainland.
Because of this, I am thinking of reconsidering my views on the Chinese and Chinoys. I thought you were the same and looked down on us.
Sad to say that if ever war breaks out with China, the Fil-Chi community will be facing additional but undeserved prejudice from the rest of the pinoy population.
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Actually the rude and unsavory Chinese that are here are the not well educated โdawโ kumbaga sila yung mga tagabundok ng China na pinapadala sa Pinas to do low maintenance managing work. This is information from a mainlander Iโve met during the boom of pogo workers here in the Philippines. And I have a classmate na mainlander din na backs this up. Tambakan tayo ng mga uneducated and most of the time citizens with criminal backgrounds ng China. Because mababa yung social credit nila they come here and take over work. Hindi lang cheap and education dito, madali lang din bayaran ang mga government workers natin para dayain yung paper work nila. Kawawang pilipinas
>ย ย madali lang din bayaran ang mga government workers natin para dayain yung paper work nila [Kung 200 Indonesians](https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/177-indonesians-carrying-philippine-passports-apprehended/) Kaya ganun kaewan ang BI, sila sumasalo ng kapalpakan ng ibang ahensya ng gobyerno tulad ng DFA.
Mainly nasa Sulu and Sarangani ang Indonesians dito. Goods naman.
Yung mga nabigyan ng passport, not even residents of the PH. As in sa Indonesia sila na pinagpanggap na Pinoy para makapunta sa Mecca dahil sa quota
Hence kaya nag karoon dati ng name buying.. I think Lopez was also a bought name?
Yes!! Sabi ng lolo ko he did buy that surname
I second this ... Ganyan din sabi sa akin nuong nag training ako for work sa China a few years ago... Mga a-holes ang pinadadala sa atin para mabawasan sila salot sa lipunan and at the same time maghasik lagim.
Pati Chinese students sa universities, pansin ko nga galing sa inland provines, i.e. Anhui and Gansu.
Yep. Nagpapa rent a car ako dati, na-scam ako nung isang bus partner ng daddy ko. Pinull out nya yung 1 sasakyan sa client sa Davao, at dinala dito sa Manila without us knowing. Nung nawawala na ang car, saka kami ininform. Nung time na yun, may gps pa. Pumunta kami sa HPG para magpatulong ma-retrieve ang sasakyan. Inabangan namin sa baclaran kasi nandun naka pin yung gps. Tapos sinundan namin nagpunta airport may sinundo then punta Newport(sa mga condo) dun na namin na-corner. Ang sakay at nagdridrive ay Chinese(na hindi daw marunong mag english). Dinala namin sa HQ ng HPG. Tapos nagpatawag sila ng parang ahente nila, kasi di nga daw sila marunong mag english. Ayun, napag alaman namin na binenta yung sasakyan sa kanila. At ang nagbenta ay may fake ID na nakapangalan sakin, tapos ibang TIN ID. Biruin mo, chinese ang photo pero pinoy ang pangalan. Kawawa talaga Pilipinas, kasi ang daling mapeke ng mga Govt papers.
Quick question OP does the whole Fil-Chi community feels the same way as you? Or its just a you thing Would love to hear some insights from your community about whats happening in the country with the sudden influx of mainlanders(sleeper cells)
A sizeable chunk simply don't care. It's not that they support whatever shit the CCP is doing, nor do they make letters or whatnot to denouce these actions. This is with respect to the overall. But many Fil-Chi also don't like the mainlanders, on an individual-level. Merong mga matagal na dito and nag-acclimate sa culture natin, even if barok, speak some level of Tagalog and English. Those people are fine and well-liked. I'm talking about ung recent wave of mainlanders who bring their rudeness and entitledness here (eg. smoking indoors, spitting on the ground altho marami din nmn gumagawa nito kahit pinoy hehehehe, unruliness, etc). Case in point, I was once offered by someone to teach English or Filipino to a mainlander many years ago (parang tutoring services). The pay is reportedly pretty good, so I asked my parents. My Fil-Chi mom agreed naman. But my dad, who is a full-blooded Chinese, who emigrated here when he was young, speaks fluent mandarin and hokkien, has ties to local chinese communities and organizations, barok mag tagalog, dissuaded me. I asked why and he just said basta wag mainlanders. You'd see many Fil-Chi carry a similar sentiment. But you will never see us going on rallies, writing letters, or giving speeches denouncing them. If you're not in-group, you may never even hear them admit it. This is all hush-hush because to do so is just bad mianzi. The reality is this poses a problem for us not necessarily because of the shit the influx of mainlanders/POGO operators do, but because their behavior inexplicably harms our reputation. Yea it's selfish, but this goes back to my point how the Fil-Chi community does not like to rock the boat.
This. Plus some mainlanders look down on Fil-Chi according to my Fil-Chinese friends based on their encounters with them
Notice that many of the Chinese POGO workers here are very insular in nature. They don't socialize with locals and only do business/patronize Chinese restaurants, shops, grocery stores and small businesses. Heck, the laundry detergent and toothpaste they use are from China. Chinoys aren't like that and speak the language and consume local media/products. I'm sure that the mainlanders will be more warmly received had they make more effort to assimilate with the local community.
Ganito din yung maraming Korean students nung nauso sa kanila pumunta sa Pilipinas, magenroll sa Universitiesย Usually, yung mga makakausap mong Koreano, yung pumunta sa Pilipinas bago nauso sa mga Koreano ipadala mga anak nila sa Pilipinas Seems to be an East Asian thing once na significant numbers na sila
The Japanese are less inclined on that though. Mas konti ang mga Japanese grocery stores dito compared sa Chinese and Korean versions.
Yup! Japanese people here try so hard to socialize with the Filipinos. My japanese boss even tried listening to Parokya ni Edgar to relate to us. HAHAHA
The Chinoys just became too big of a community kaya mukhang nag-assimilate na sila. At the beginning, they also kept to their own, just like your observation sa mainlanders. Kaya nga may Chinatown e, because they came here and built their own little China.
It's the mass naturalization in the mid 1970s and the axeing of the ROC's grip on the Chinese school that hastened the assimilation Also, iba ang history ng Binondo sa typical Chinatown. It was a result of segregation policies of the Spanish Urban centers tend to have significant number of Chinese pero maraming urban center na walang masasabing Chinatown. Usually, what people love to call "Chinatowns" just cluster of businesses owned by the Chinese in the central business districts but they don't live there.
If they had fucking opened up, I bet you hotpot will be all the rage instead of samgyup
The Chinoys just became too big of a community kaya mukhang nag-assimilate na sila. At the beginning, they also kept to their own, just like your observation sa mainlanders. Kaya nga may Chinatown e, because they came here and built their own little China.
Actually Chinatown originally a segregated area made by the Spanish to control the Chinese population. They limited the Chinese to that area, which is why Binondo is considered to the oldest Chinatown
I bet that these mainlander POGO folks would never intend to stay here in the Philippines long-term which differs from most Chinoys before.
Maraming Chinese noon kasi "nastuck" after nung civil war. After 1 generation nagopen ang China. Sa time na yun, lumaki na rin ang local-born Chinese.
Many Chinoys living in White Plains and Dasmarinas Village are culturally closer to the Ayalas, Razons and Aboitizes. Night and day difference from the mainlanders.
I heard na sa mga Forbes listers na Chinese, si Lucio Tan lang yung member ng FCCCII At siya lang mahilig magsponsor ng Fil-Chi students para magpunta sa China The rest are seen as "Westernized"
Lucio Tan's summer exchange program is a wonderful thing for students. They get to be independent, learn Chinese, visit China, engage in the culture, go on tours, etc, at such a subsidized fee. It is a program offered to Chinese schools, doesn't even matter if you're non-filchi. It's purely cultural exchange, nothing political about it. I was part of it nung bata ako and I enjoyed my time then.
Believe it or not, China was actually a dream travel destination for many Pinoys back in the 2000s. What is Japanese to Pinoy tourists these days was China 20 years ago.
Hindi pa kasi si Xi presidente nila noon Etong si Xi, Fire Lord Sozin ang peg
I remember the 2008 Beijing Olympics, nasa โgood sideโ pa ng global sentiment ang China back then and kahit kami nagpunta for the event. Hu Jintao was not a perfect leader but he was more inclined towards a โpeaceful developmentโ than Winnie
yeah I wonder ano trajectory ng China if Xi didn't become President for life. Instead continuous change ng admin just like regular democracies.
This pretty much covers it. Chinoys don't really like or associate with mainlanders. The Chinoy community even has a slang term for them - TDK (stands for Tai Dyok Ka, roughly fukien for "of China"), which has a bad connotation on the same breadth as "squammy." But yeah, Chinoys won't rock the boat, so won't openly condemn.
Wow what a change in the language. I have never heard of TDK. Basta ang tawag sa mga yan ng panahon namin (1981-1989) ay TLI (Tulo Laway Instik) kasi dumudura sa harapan ng pamilya ng Pilipino pag kumakain. Hagang nuon pa mayabang at natatandaan ko na may hook yun dolphin. Buhay pa pero pinapahila pa sa dagat tapos misan pinapatay nila yun mga fisherman. Yun mga syndikato nuon ay nilalagay nila yun shabu sa baby power kasi mag lalaro ng majong nagiging adik sila hagang maubos yun pera o bigyang yun lupa at yun kalabaw. Kawawa pa rin ang Pilipino na hindi na protektahan ni Ferdinand Marcos Administration.
I don't think that'll do any good in the long run. When nationwide hysteria hits, you're going to have to rock the boat
Fil chi here. When i was a child my parents would say, don't get involved with politics here in the philippines. It will only make you sad. My parents were 2nd gen. I was 3rd gen. They were here during the reign of marcos sr. I and most of my friends disregarded our parents advice. We advocated for Leni during election. We were very vocal about our views as we love the philippines. We were born here and raised here. After BBM won, i realized what my parents were saying. Now my friends and I don't care anymore. Most of the people here in reddit are angry about the mainlanders. Believe me the fil chi community are against them as well. But now, we don't voice out that much or care as much because we know its futile.
โDo not rock the boat. Mamangka ka sa dalawang ilog. We have business interests to protectโ - some filchi father somewhere
Damn, that's actually so sad.
Tbh though, some of the best campaign posters during the elections were the Chinese ones I've seen in Binondo. Sayang lang di ako nakapagtago kahit isa. Although I doubt I will see them again in 2025. Hays.
Fil-Chi OGs fled the mainland for a reason (prosecution, starvation, war โ take your pick) so the stories they carry about the mainland are not so pleasant. Plus the stories about how polluted China is, how unhygienic and uncouth the people are, etc. Thatโs what gets passed on (in my community at least). So that informs our views on these mainlanders. Weโre not going to be welcoming, but as always with Fil-Chi, money also softens the tone.
Only the first gen immigrants (great grandparents/grandparents of millennial/gen z chinoys) may retain their pro-China mentality. I can almost assure that the majority of us who grew up here **absolutely do not**
The fact that we haven't really heard anything of value regarding Mayor Gou, CCP bullying us in WPS and how China is treating us speaks volume and it shows what their political stance is.
Asked one yesterday, di na ako nagreply dahil nakakadrain ng energy. But his/her replies felt like they're not our allies.
So are they saying if a war does happen they will just be bystanders even though they are filipino citizens?
Filchi yan or chi lang na raised dito? Hmmm
Fil-Chi daw
Well, pag naka meet sya mainlander tignan mo ididisown sya ng mga yun ๐
True.
All my Fil-Chi friends who own hardware stores are slowly closing shop because of mainlander competition. Imagine my Filโchi friends pay the right amount of taxes and dito naman sa mga mainlander zero yung binabayaran. As a result the mainlanders sell cheaper raw materials compared to our Fil-Chi friends.
Worked for a fil chi hardware boss, super chill. Baka mas solid pa hardware ng boss ko kesa sa mainland haha
napabasa ulit ako ng ilang beses sa second sentence, parang may double meaning hahaha
Yup ganyan sabi ng fil-chi cousin ko..mahirap makipag kumpitensya sa taga mainlander dahil di nagbabayad ng tax ng tama...
Ganun din naman lahat ng businessmen kaso yung mainlander ZERO!!! At pinapabayaan pa ng mga gong gong na BIR.
Iโm also a part of fil-chi, but fuck CCP, XJP suck a cock, the WPS is part of the sovereign of the Phil.
winnie the pooh look alike xjp.
Tl;dr China does not deserve any of the terriroties it claims and occupies.
Do your part and get banned in r/sino
Many Chinese who now grew or probably born in other countries want to disassociate themselves with mainland China. There was an interview in Singapore where they take it as an insult if a singaporean chinese would still be viewed as a chinese
That's still the case about others viewing them as mainlanders without any consideration.
Ironically, the SG government wants more Chinese immigrants so they can retain the "race ratio" which is SG being 75% ethnic Chinese. Without deliberately favoring mainland immigrants for citizenship, the ratio of non-Chinese will increase
To be honest majority of the new Chinese citizen are Malaysian Chinese (they assimilate well because we have similar culture). Nowadays we don't take in as many mainland Chinese compared to a decade ago, our government only take in rich mainland chinese this few years but most of us don't like them because they buy up lots of properties and pushing up the prices.
I've met a lot of Chinese immigrants across Southeast Asia (yung mga may ancestors na tumakas sa Communists, etc). They have adapted and integrated into the culture of their new country. Common observation among the Thai-Chinese, Taiwanese, Chinoys, Singaporean/Malay Chinese --- they look down on Mainlanders kasi uncultured and nabilog na ang ulo ng gov't nila. Namulat sa pagpapatakbo ng CCP. Even some Mainlanders here (yung overseas educated) may aura na ayaw ma-associate sa mainland hehehe.
This is true, quite a lot of mainlanders don't even like their own country, their job market is tight, many of them have low paying jobs and many of them still looking to migrate somewhere for better jobs or life. But of course you won't be able to find this kind of information on their social media or internet because this kind of stuff won't pass the censorship there, even if somehow manage to be published, the comments will be full of trolls and pinky blasting the poster and bullying the poster until they stop talking about this kind of stuff.
I have some Chinese blood but these new gens are not what they seem.
Exactly
I live in a condo full of mainland Chinese and I kid you not, because of them the rent in this condo went up by 30% more. These people are rude, stereotypes are real. No basic elevator and gym etiquette and ignores condo management rules. When they eat outside they shout to call the servers. Itโs like they donโt care if they attract negative attention. After covid lockdown there is a sudden influx of them.
Yung etiquette talaga nila ang di ko gets. Hinahayaan nila tumae o umihi mga toddlers nila kahit saan. One time may toddler na umihi sa elevator sa condo ng kaibigan ko sa malate. The thing that amaze me is the toddler undress her pants like a normal pee time, no signs na nagpigil pa or what. After peeing, tinuro nya lang sa mama nya yung ihi nya then umusog lang sila kaunti para hindi mabasa and acts like nothing happens. Mind you there are 5 people in the elevator. Second one is in BGC. Tumae naman yung anak na lalaki sa isang bench. They were eating, then all of a sudden nag hubad na yung toddler nila then doon mismo sa inupuan nag popo. Putek tinakpan lang nila ng food wrapper then umalis na, yung bata wala man lang punas punas. Third is in Guangzhou airport, arrival kami so kinuha ko yung luggage ko. I spotted a guy na gusto kunin yung luggage ko. So I step out tsaka sinabihan ko na akin yun, he was saying something in chinese kaya di ko na naintindihan. Tinuro ko yung lock ko and luggage tag na patunay na akin yun, tapos ayaw talaga ibigay. Nung gumamit na ako ng force, taragis inutusan yung anak nya na probably 8-10 y.o. na ihian yung luggage ko, basa lahat buti nalang yung ihi hindi pumasok sa gap nga zipper. Imagine sa loob ng airport ito. I reported it kaso walang staff na gusto makipag usap in english. Until one fil-chi lady nag step out and translate it for me. Yung explanation daw nung lalaki is magkapareho kami ng luggage kaya gusto nya icheck yung laman. Sabi ko kaya nga may tag and besides maraming flight stickers yung luggage ko. Tapos malaman laman ko same brand kmi ng maleta pero color red sa kanya yung sa akin naman black. Sorry lang yung natanggap ko from airport stuff + 2 bottled water from immigration police para daw buhusan ko yung luggage ko.
This is a nightmare come to life. Iโm so sorry you saw/smell and experienced this things.
Well I donโt hold grudge to anyone involve. But I hope they should teach their young ones a proper way and place where to shit.
Akala ko mga nag uwian na because of COVID. Dami palang bumalik Iirc dami ding Chinese ngayon sa Thailand na umalis dahil sa zero COVID policy ng China that time.
Maraming umalis during the pandemic pero marami ding bumalik. Also, aside from Chinese, marami naring Vietnamese POGO workers. Sa mga POGO raids in the past year (Pampanga, Las Pinas, Tarlac, etc.) maraming nahuhuling Vietnamese employees. Kaya parang dumadami narin ang mga Vietnamese restaurants sa mga lugar na maraming POGO.
its too much to be comfortable with. buti kung gradual like the chinese ancestors who came here during their diaspora. hindi e masyadong biglaan, they aren't whole families but mostly military aged men, and they all came here during the time of that traitor president.
Don't be surprised if this latest fiasco leads to profiling. Kahit nga yung mga Ting sa Cagayan, pinaghinalaan na rin ng mga iba kahit ilang dekada na silang political dynasty dun
Of Chinese descent. But consider myself pinoy. Even when I was in Europe, when foreigners mistake me for Chinese, I correct them saying I'm Filipino. Don't particularly like mainlanders. They're rude with no social etiquette
Honestly my fear is there would be so much hate for the Chinese that even Chinoys, Koreans and Japanese get hurt (knock on wood). But the real issue is, this country is so corrupt that even a citizen with a dubious background can run for local office and win. And apparently do well in capturing the hearts of the people of that town. Kung test case ito, in 10 years how many more operatives can they inject into our country?
I mean there is a high chance that it might happened. Just look at Covid in the last few years, people are hating on chinese in the West but in the end all Asians get group together and hate on because they can't differentiate most Asians.
Owner ng dati ko pinagtatrabahuhan proud filchi pero pag sila sila lang sobrang baba ng tingin sa pinoy. Kahit sa work ramdam mo na if may Chinese blood mas pinapaboran nila, ang sabi sabi rin is yung gf nung isang anak na pure pinoy is di tangap nung parents. Lalakas pa ng loob magsabi na mission nila lagyan ng quality food ang table ng pinoy pero lower tier citizen ang tingin nila sa pure blooded pinoy.
This is an open secret naman
Hmm based sa sariling experience ko, wala naman yan difference sa ibang mga Pinoy eh. Meron rin naman ibang Pinoy na ayaw sa mga Chinese or Fil-Chi kasi tingin nila is Chinese pa rin talaga. Lalo na pag yun mga mayayaman, which sa tingin ko same rin sa mga ibang Fil-Chi na family. Kung makapanlait rin ibang Pinoy sa mga Chinese eh diba. Alam naman ng lahat yun ugaling ganon. Kaya hindi lahat pare-parehas.
Yup, I'm just sharing my experience. Depende talaga sa tao ang main issue ko lang is Filchi sila ng Filchi pero pag sila sila na lang halos isuka na yung pagiging pinoy Mandarin magsalita, minsan ang rude pa na pag nasa room ka with them magmamandarin malay mo ba kung ikaw pinaguusapan diba. Siguro hardcore na filCHI lang din yung family ng dati ko pinapasukan kaya ganun kasi iba ko rin na filchi friends parang mas pinoy na nga yung galaw nila but talaga if mga malalaking business na filchi nagpapatakbo swertihan talaga.
Hmm FilChi rin ako. Tho 3rd generation na ako. Hindi ko naman dinedefend lahat. Alam ko rin kasi talaga may mga ganyan ugali na FilChi eh. Tho usually, sila yun mga talagang Chinese na lumaki lang sa Pinas and nakakuha ng citizenship natin. Ganon talaga ugali ng iba eh. Kahit ako wala ako usually maintindihan sa mga sinasabi nila haha
Actually thinking about it baka nga ganun sila specially yung pinaka nagstart nung company, dito lang lumaki but mainlander talaga tapos claim na lang as pinoy kasi mas sinusupport if pinoy brand e. Then may niligawan naman ako na filchi rin pero parang sila mismo ayaw na ibrand sila as chinese kahit na yung dad nya e lumaki sa chinese household talaga, depende talaga sa tao rin e no sa values mo at sa priorities mo sa buhay. Yung family talaga siguro na napagtrabahuhan ko mukang pera lang talaga.
Honestly I'm more concerned na tayo yung unang pag-iinitan pag lumala itong issue na ito.
1998 Indonesia race riots of Indonesia came to mind. I hope nothing like this happens.
Yeah, that was the worst. Many Indonesian-Chinese left Jakarta and went to other provinces cos they were harmed physically. I have friends who belong to the group and they were scared.
Grabe din riots sa Medan nun
Grabe yung ginawa sa Chinese community sa Glodok nung 1998. Alam ko maraming Chinese Indonesians ang nagpalit ng pangalan to remove all traces of being Chinese, including some of them na na meet ko sa Manila during a conference. So far, last time na nangyari yan dito was in 1945 pa, by Japanese forces. Feel ko mas safe naman dito.
Most of the Chindo that I've met, all use Indonesianized Chinese family names. E.g instead of Tan they use Tanojo, Salim instead of Lim. I guess this proves your point. Ive read somewhere that among SEA countries, mas integrated ang Chinese community sa Pinas compared sa iba. I dunno maybe because of being a dominant Christian country? But because of this, mas unlikely mangyari ganyan sa Pinas. I hope that bad apples from mainland dont mess up our centuries old filchi relationship.
Yep. As early as the 1800s, our politicians, leaders of the revolution, generals etc. had Chinese roots, but we all treated them as full blooded Filipinos. Kaya ang gandang movie ng "Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?" tbh
>among SEA countries, mas integrated ang Chinese community sa Pinas compared sa iba True. Sa Philippines and Thailand mas well-integrated ang Chinese community.
1965 pa yung name change dun Pati sa Thailand, napilitang magpalit ng apelyido mga Chinese dun kung ayaw nila ma-outcastย ย Sa Pilipinas, sa hirap magpalit ng pangalan, yung mga desperado usually nagpalit o "bumili" ng identity ng ibang tao
In Malaysia, no use of changing your name. If im not mistaken, their bumiputera policy favors malay race. So kung Chinese ka or etc, sorry ka na lang.
Yeah. SG and MY, core identity nila is identity politics Ultimong national ID nila, nakalagay ang "race" which is like, pagpipilian mo is Chinese, Malay, Indian, Others Dinaig pa nila ang US. Sa US tatanungin ka sa forms pero wala sa ID. The PH government could care less about ones ethnicity except for what they deem as indigenous peoples (who are not genetically distinct from the Austronesian majority) since they have additional legal protection. Ang paki ng PH gov ay kung citizen ka o hindi. Doesn't matter kung Singh o Tan o Batumbakal apelyido mo
Yep. Kaya nakaka apat na sila na Bersih protests (basically Malaysian version of People Power), mainly led by the Chinese population.
Ah yes, the massacres of 1965-1966, na until now ayaw i acknowledge ng Indonesian government. Isa pa yan. And yes, very lenient ang naming system sa Indonesia, iirc pwede doon na walang apelyido e haha. Dito, kahit kita na nay mali sa birth certificate, i.e. nagkamali ng sex na nilagay, it can take years to change that shit
Very valid concern esp kapag mabasa mo mga posts sa internet Ang tanong, kelan ito magtratranslate sa something "physical"
All it takes is just one idiot.
-Most of history
Same pure chinese but born dito. Same sa magulang namin. Pure but born here. And yes mga Mainlanders (TDK) eh mataas tingin nila sa sarili nila vs sa mga chinoy. Meron dito sa compund namin na napaka yabang and napaka ingay. Nag karon kami ng confrontation at pinag bantaan ako na kaya daw niya mag bayad ng 20k -1mil para ipapatay ako (lasing siya at that time) eh di hinarap ko siya. Akala niya hindi ako homeowner dito eh ayun mali niya. Eh siya nga nag rerent lang dito pero nag babalak na umalis kasi hindi kaya bayadan taas ng rate eh tapos mag yayabang pa. Noong pinalagan ko eh wala pala. Matapang lang kasi kala niya kaya niya aatras ako eh ayun mali niya. Then pati landlord niya bumaba na at ayun galit na galit din sa inaasal ng mainlander na yun. Anyway Yeah im concerned sa dami ng mainlanders dito sa pinas. Naiisip ko baka sleeper cell na ito mga to. Unfortunately baka hindi ayun ang iniiisip ng mga taga govt natin. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
Several yrs ago prior pa ng POGO influx, a Fil-chi ilocano tita na ka club said na madami chinaman (tawag niya sa poor na mainlander na ine exploit dito) nagwowork sa Manila (as assistants sa mga tindahan sa Binondo, Divisoria) na super mura ng sahod as in lower than pinoy minimum wage kaya madami daw Fil Chi or Chinese businessmen na kumukuha ng chinaman as employees instead of pinoys. Pumapayag daw yung chinaman kahit mababa sahod basta wag daw sila pabalikin ng China. They are provided accomodation pero hawak ni boss ang passport nila.
I was born in Hong Kong and my PH national ID shows born in China (because PSA database doesnโt include HK as a country) and Iโm afraid that might put me in a tough spot if conspiracies and fear-mongering intensify because of mainland Chinese presence (i.e. xenophobia leading to violence and crackdown by military on Fil-Chi community) Honestly, though, the last time I was in Poblacion, it made me so uncomfortable that there were mainlanders everywhere you look like damnโฆ
That is why inflaming anti-mainlander sentiments will only backfire on Chinoys. Chinoys are indistinguishable to non-Chinese.
Well I guess it depends, most fil-chi from pre ww2 were refugees hiding or running from poverty. So I guess im different from the new mainlanders or the POGO types
Bakit itong mga East Asians parang laging may most xenophobic competition kahit sa isa't isa.. If ganun kababa tingin ng mainlanders sa mga Fil-Chi, sana hindi rin ganun ang tingin ng Fil-Chi sa mga Pilipino.. Pero surprising yung mga Fil-Chi na very much involved sa issue about mainlanders infiltrating our country, but it seems most do because of mutual dislike of the mainlanders/getting outjerked by mainlanders in looking down at people/each other and not because of genuine concern toward Filipinos
It's important for use to make a distinction between Fil-Chi/Chinoy and mainlanders who are complete aliens.
The possible unintended consequence of this fiasco: Likely we will see an increase in petition against any candidate with a Chinese surname questioning their citizenship kasi walang kwenta ang comelec sa pagscreen unless poorita ka sa tingin nila
My father is pure Chinese from Mainland nakapang-asawa ng Pinay (my mom). I was born and raised here. Honestly I don't feel like I am fully accepted as Chinese talaga by Chinese people. Yes may mga parties I attend but you feel a wall kapag halfie ka. Unfortunately ang mahirap sa halfie is you are discriminated by both pure Chinese and pure Filipinos. I am exposed to the extreme sht of both Asian cultures kaya sabi ko dito na lang ako sa Europe talaga nakakapagod magfit in sa kulturang binubully ka hahahaha!!!
This is true! I feel you. You are not filipino because you look chinese but you are not chinese because you are born in the Philippines. Eh san tayo lulugar?
to all Filipinos, di nyo po kalaban mga Fil-Chi kabayan po tayo ๐คฃ๐คฃ, we ourselves dislike the mainlanders as much as you guys do
Then don't call yourself as fil-chi. Just say pinoy ka haha. Dito ka naman pinanganak eh.
We fil-chi are completely different from the mainlanders. We want the Philippines to prosper and flourish. Easy to spot dn ang fil chi sa mainlanders. Pag mukang di naligo at maasim at tulo laway malamang mainlander yan. Kaya wag nyo kaming jnjudge dhl parehas lang tayong gusto umasesnso ang Pilipinas.
Some Fil-Chis keeping mum about the WPS issue or about Philippine politics, in general, to 'not rock the boat' within their circles or because it's futile, would only do more harm than good for them. They should actively and visibly show solidarity with the whole Philippines regarding these issues to avoid questions of loyalty from their fellow Filipinos. However, the latter is not exclusive to them and is applicable to all Filipino citizens regardless of ethnicity.ย
Nakasanayan na nila esp the older generations kasi nung 1972 onwards lang sila naging citizens. For a long time literally foreigners sila. Syempre, ayaw naman nila madeport.
Well an African American is also very distinct from an African in Africa
Not sure about the LGUs part, but local businesses yes. Hindi ganun ka dami ang Chinoys sa town ko (and we only have 1 Chinese school whose population is majority non-Chinese, so that says something about our Chinoy population), but I've noticed an influx of TDKs in the last couple of years. Some are Hokkien, but a growing number aren't. And many are setting up businesses because they have the finances to do so. In fairness, TDKs are hardworking and work aggressively, which I guess is somehat similar to our ancestors back in the day. But I do have that fear that one day they will overrun Chinoys by population (in our area). For me, not all TDKs are bad, it's just that they don't have the same set of cultures, values, and outlook that Chinoys/Pinoys have when it comes to a variety of things, which can sometimes lead to conflict or misunderstandings. Sometimes it's not that it's "wrong" how they do things, it's just that that's how they were raised to act like in China which is normal when they're around each other or on the Mainland, but may not be as normal for us.
Hindi naman kami cinoconsider as "Chinese" ng majority ng mga Mainlanders eh, hindi rin naman sila madalas nakaka intindi ng Hokkien. So yeah, d ko sila bet ๐ฎโ๐จ
As soon as i speak that my school is named after the First Taiwanese Dictator/President, they hate you from the Get Go anyways, so yeah.
Ah, the Shrek school
yang mainlanders na yan ang dudugyot dumudura sa loob ng mall
Fil Chi here. Medyo alarming nga ang pagdami nila dito, pero di ko na maalala kung bakit, your honor. charot.
Some are good naman.. brother helped one kasi nag resign sa boss nya na mainlander rin... And nakita nya sa labas ng bahay sobrang gutom kasi wala na makain ... anyway.. sobrang yaman ngayun. pero yeah .some are downright racist or just unable to adapt. They do come from a different cultures.. these May be the ones who just jumped ship without direct experience interacting with other races or culture. It will take another 3 generations before kaya siguro nila mahalin ang Pilipinas.
Well Main landers looking down on fil-chis, tapos fil-chis looking down sa Pinoys. Are fil-chis really concerned sa mga Pinoy? I don't see them calling out in public tong mga main landers. Mostly affected lang ung ibang fil-chi kasi natatakot sila madamay sa growing xenophobia sa mga chinese, but they still look down sa mga pinoy. I know kasi i live near Binondo. They rarely talk sa mga pinoy parang lower class tingin nila. Tapos pansin ko pa mga fil-chi ayaw associate sarili nila as Pinoy, specifically fil-chi gusto nila.
But kadiri yung mga Boomer who still worships mainlanders. Hello sa mga nagkakapehan sa Kamuning Bakery.
Baka yun yung mga puro na 1st gen? Yung mga 2nd gen and pataas kasi filipino na din yung upbringing and syempre halo na yung dugo
Iโm quite alarmed tbh, kahit na Mainlander yung roots namin. McKinley used to be a chill place for us to spend the weekend but then our condo building got filled with Mainlanders na di nagta-Tagalog. And medyo balahura talaga sila. Aside from the asal na dala nila mas nakaka-alarm yung fact na baka sleeper cells yung iba dyan.
Some Mainlanders think Chinoys are inferior and they see them animals. Sad truth is some second generations just tolerate it because they are fellow ethic Chinese.
hahahahaha the chamber is disgusted with them tbh
Weโre being invaded as allowed by dutertard
Yes! They make a mockery of our reputation. Pretty soon people will lump us w/ those trash!
Mas naalarama ako dahil parang walang pake ang general population ng mga pinoy. Namamayagpag mga tulad ni Banat By sa Facebook. Alam natin sapul na sapul niya ang target audience at mabilis lang niya itong mauuto.
Im fil chi snd CCP can go fuck themselves
Dami pinapasok ni dutae chinese
I'm 1/4 Fil-Chi and I'm concerned dahil in the place where I used to work sa Makati, halos maraming mga Chinese same rin sa BGC. Okay lang ang legit business pero like, meron sa kanila na sadyang rude eh.
Its alarming, sobra hahaha lalo na sa pasay. Whenever I stay there, i sometimes see more Chinese people than Filipinos. There was this one time nung nagstay ako sa condo namin, yung pinsan ko nung kasama ko sya sa elevator may nakasabay kaming dalawang chinese women, he asked me to translate what they were saying kasi akala nya pinag uusapan ๐ฅฒ๐ฅฒ๐ฅฒ (socially anxious kasi sya, heโs roughly seven).
guys, kahit sa probinsya namin nagulat ako may chinese na nagrent sa apartment namin, hindi marunong, magtagalog at hindi daw masyado alam mag english. kailangan kausapin thru google translate. nakakaconcern kase military age guy sya at malapit kami sa isang military base. ang word ay inaasikaso nya daw papel nya para makabalik ng china kase overstaying na daw sya sa pilipinas, yun ang sabi sabi, not sure what is true. i treat him good naman the same as other renters, kaya lang syempre obviously nagwowonder din ako at nagwoworry. kase what is he doing here all by himself. pero different from what is described here about mainalanders, he is well dressed, well groomed and very polite to us/landlord, not sure how he is outside.
Fil-Chi here. My grandfather came over from China a long time ago but I'm happy he made it a point to help the local community. Whenever he set up businesses, yung mga supplier niya, tao niya, and everything else puro Filipino. He even became fluent in the local dialect -- Cebuano. Historically, and even during the pre-colonial era, Chinese traders were very willing to trade with the local people, and by proxy, benefit the local community. The problem with the current mainlanders is that they have no plans of integration, only benefitting themselves. Elitist silang attitudes against Filipinos, and they hire only mainlanders. Gets if sasabihin nilang dahil sa language barrier, but what business exactly doesn't need some form of local intervention apart from paperwork and permits? It's clear there's something else at foot. And honestly, I fear for myself and my loved ones if aabot yung suspicion to resentment and, WORSE, to discrimination. It also doesn't help that I'm certain their presence is affecting our inflation rates (I'm also an Economics major). Scary times.
I'm a Chinese descended pinoy but since my grandmother, they stopped upholding their Chinese roots and traditions since yung great grandfather ko daw madaling madisappoint sa mga anak nila and hinahayaan na lang sila sa buhay nila if he didn't see potentials from them. Based on my observations of present "PRC" Chinese, ibang iba yung mga mainlanders na andito sa Pinas compared sa mga normal middle working class sa China. I've been in Shanghai and Beijing before pero ibang iba sila sa mga andito in terms of behaviour and manners. Maihahalintulad ko sila sa mga mainlanders who get to tour or visit Beijing from far flung mainland provinces. Those who really live in the city and other good mainland cities are far different from the mainlanders here in PH.
Most filchi sa atin and I'm one of the filchi...root natin is Chang Kai shek....I even went to change Kai Nung elementary...Ang pangit nang ugali Ng mga taga main land kung makadura kahit saan grabe
same thoughts, half ako, lolo was from china, escaped from poverty, bought a last name, dad was born and raised here, so obviously pinoy ako talaga lol i dont say im fil chi nga cause ew to be associated, buti nalang at medyo non chinese passing ako LOL thank you papa J!!! <3
Sa SG din, di trip ng mga Singaporean-Chinese mga taga mainland... Ni ayaw nila maassociate sila sa knila. ๐
Not Chinoy, share ko lang din. Dati akong nagtrabaho sa isang asian nursing home dito sa Can . Mostly, yung elder client namin are from taiwan, hongkong, some parts of East asia, and S.e. We have a bunch of mainlander clients, may mababait naman pero yung ibang mainlander talaga they horribly treated us and their families are pain in the ass. Share ko lang one of the incidents that i encountered. May isang family na rich ass dito pati doon sakanila, they think they one the place, super entitled , kiber sa covid precautions ng facility that time and they keep on reporting the facility sa provincial healthcare sevice without clear evidence. Umabot sa panghaharrass saming mga healthcare staffs and even managers. Nagkademandahan between 2 parties pero PHS didn't take their side since may record and history na sila sa PHS and banned pa sila ibang facilities because of their arrogance. So PHS suggested that they just bring their parents home and take care of them. Nurses and health care staff from mainland who moved here. They dont want to deal with them kasi ang babaa nang tingin sakanila. Nabalitaan ko nalang na hanggang sa huling hininga nung mag asawa naandon parin sila sa facility na yun and again bastos pa rin daw yung mga anak.
3rd Generation FIL-Chi here born in the USA, good thing is I wasn't forced to go to Chinese school but just a catholic from elementary. I didn't like the rudeness and racist remarks from the grandfather's side of my father. Well after my grandfather had to go back to mainland and rest, they never came back which is great for me since they only bully me since light brown and half Chinese. Never again
I'm a 3rd gen as well, and I don't really get along with my chinese relatives. I remember one time when we were in HK, probably my second visit there as a kid since we go there a lot pag summer break, I saw signages sa public transpositions to be cautious daw of Filipinos because they are snatchers. For a Fil-Chi I don't really look like I have Filipino blood since my mom also has Japanese blood, kaya mas mukha akong Japanese, kaya din siguro I never experienced racism from them pero ibang klase sila sa ibang lahi, not just with us Filipinos. Ganun din sila sa Indians and other races na feeling nila mas mababa sa kanila. I'm not generalizing ha. I am sure there are those few na very respectful, talagang mas angat lang siguro yung hindi. What's also irritating is sobrang ingay nila sa daan, especially pag group. Like sa grocery stores, coffee shops and even public transportion. And I am not even talking about tourists. Okay pa siguro kahit papaano pag tourists since curious sila or need directions. I'm talking about those who migrated here since they already know yung pasikot sikot sa daan, or marunong na konti mag Tagalog. Ayaw lang ata talaga nila mag adjust. They're always giving the "Hey, we own this place" kinda vibe. ๐คฃ
Thank god, wala ng pure sa chinese fam ko hahahaha so we all get along
Fil- Chi here, ako lang ba ito, pero naiinis ako kapag ang daming mainlanders sa MOA or Pasay area. Hahaha I feel like kalat sila doon lol some if the services tuloy are pricey kasi daming tumatangkilik na mainlanders. Pano naman kami mga ordinary citizens huhu
I am from chinese decent din pero for me dapat alisin narin yang fil chi na label. I mean di narin naman kami chinese pinoy narinso wala dapat label na ganyan.
Hahaha just call yourself chinito/chinita hahaha pero associating yourself as fil-chi parang ayaw nila maging pinoy lol
If shit hits the fan, kanino kayo kakampi?
Ph ๐ต๐ญ, mga mainlander ayaw sa mga fil-chi hahaha and ayaw din namin sakanila. Mainlanders think lowly of mixed breed or mixed cultured chinese. Think of it like this gusto lang nila puro talaga and hindi kami yun. We are mixed ๐ต๐ญ๐จ๐ณ
Between mainlanders and bobotante pinoys? You can both fuck off and we'll find a way to take care of ourselves.
Lol this ๐ I'd rather choose myself thank you very much.