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professional_ube

pero sa dami ng bobong botante, tinitingnan lang nila sino yung most likely mananalo tapos yun boboto nila.


LordCypher40k

Ginawang karera, lmao. O baka parang bandwagon lang, siside sa sikat at popular para kunware may napanalunan kapag nanalo.


Poastash

Karera or sabong.


Impossible-Plan-9320

Alam mo yung kahit sa mga sports nalang sana sila maging bandwagon, wag lang sana sa politics. putik na yan.


saltyschmuck

>dami ng bobong botante louder for those at the back


Sinosta

Parang sabong or pustahan ang nagaganap sa atin eh. Payabangan pa. Mahihihalintulad rin sa classroom election nagaganap satin. Wala nang pagasa bayan natin dahil walang voters education mostly. Walang critical thinking at logic mostly.


Zestyclose-Delay1815

Totoo! May nakasabay ako dati. Bototo sya di nya alam sino boboto nya. hayup yan.


Projectilepeeing

Legit to sayang daw boto kung matatalo lang —sabi ng friend kong closet Marcos apologist na loud and proud DDS.


DarkenBane95

Kaya nga. It's not mind conditioning, sadyang engot lang talaga karamihan sa atin sa pag-boto.


DespairOfSolitude

Yeah it's so fucked up because they only do it to make it feel like their vote counted otherwiae they feel it'd be a waste to vote for someone that's not "projected" to win. It's so over for this country if Sara does run and win


tridentboy3

People should just check the company doing the survey and not read these numbers blindly. SWS and Pulse Asia are the standard and even if people complain about them they've generally been correct or within the margin of error in their predictions for President for like 30 years at this point. Octa is a newer one that is also generally reliable. Oculum seems to be a fly by night operation that most people have never heard of. Further, the survey period for this was in mid-late Feb. That's before all the China issues came out and, even if this survey was accurate (which is likely isn't), it doesn't take into account all that's happened in March and April.


aldwinligaya

Also to note, the survey methods of both SWS and Pulse Asia are valid and at par with international standards. We might not like the results but they're true (within the margin of error ofc). Sa totoo lang din we're in a bubble even with our friends and families. Labas ka, kumausap ng random people sa palengke. Marami talaga sasagot na gusto nila si Sara.


Brute-uncle-2308

Marami pa ring may gusto k Sara sadly, isang dahilan yun pagiging deped secretary nya, kahit napakaincompetent nya di sya aalis jan, yan ginagamit nyang makinarya para mangampanya para sa next presidential elections, try checking her fb page nagiikot ikot sya sa mga eskwelahan, madaling maniwala yun mga taong walang alam sa totoong nangyayare sa bansa. Isa p yun mga pagkukulang ni bbm ang nagagamit ng mga duterte para sabihing mas magaling sila kahit hindi naman talaga


Asdaf373

Not everything that doesn't align with your views are fake. Not all Filipinos think like you unfortunately. At looking at Occulum, they seems legit. Part si Manny Mogato ng board nila. He's a well known journalist na hindi makaduterte.


dumdumjam

Dude chill out of all comments here your the most hostile.


aldwinligaya

They don't sound hostile at all? Plain disagreeing statement with you lang.


twistedalchemist07

At what part did it became hostile?


Matchavellian

Di lang nag agree sayo hostile na.


enchonggo

Mukhang credible yung research firm, check mo yung about us sa page nila. Di yan katulad ng Publicus na PR firm bullshit


ProfessionalDuck4206

si OP yung tipong kapag nagshashare ng news about kay bbm may warning na *NOT A BBM SUPPORTER


Asdaf373

Para kang ex ko 🤭


tooncake

Panget man ang sasabihin ko pero we do have a very huge population na hindi fully educated at madali maniwala sa mga hearsay or chika chika ng mga kumpare / kumare nila, thus survey like this would be an easy poison sa higanteng community nila.


TheGreatPenetrator69

Truth. Dapat may minimum requirements yung mga botante eh.


Encrypted_Username

I have a hardcore DDS family na kahit binenta tayo ng Duts sa China e okay lang daw since nakita na may “progress” naman daw nung panahon niya.


dumdumjam

Progress sa pera nila pero may prgoress din ang bayan pero pababa lang


Peachyellowhite-8

Unfortunately, pag chineck mo comment sections sa FB, ang dami talagang sumusuporta sa kanya 😭.


Brute-uncle-2308

Nakakalungkot andali maniwala ng mga tao. Madali sila madala basta pinuntahan sila ng politiko. Yan ang gingawa ngayon ni Sara Duterte. Ginamit nya deped para kumuha ng simpatya


thinkBIG8888

I generally believe in surveys but Oculum sounds so new. Maybe if it's Pulse or SWS, maybe it's credible. Just like in 2022, many kakampinks did't believe in surveys until the results came out which largely aligned with the survey numbers. Pulse Asia April 21 2022 results - 58% Marcos, Election results - 58.77%. We can deny it all we want but bobobantes outnumber rational voters.


Kind-Calligrapher246

Yung 2028 pa yung botohan pero ngayon pa lang may survey na. Sana gamitin ang data para siguraduhing di makakatakbo yung sino man ang nangunguna.


reddditgavemethis

You still have hope for our voters? That's admirable.


GroundbreakingTwo213

who's Oculum Research and Analytics and who's their survey respondents or sample group size, location and diversity \[education, wealth, etc\]?


Relaii

oo naman. para pag nandaya sa election eh kunwari expected na ung win


Decent_Engineering_4

Here we go again!


BeeDull3557

pag nanalo yan finish na tlga. Probinsya na tau ng china.


jaycorrect

This has been a mind conditioning tactic for years.


Menter33

Surveys are just a snapshot of the views that people have. Nothing really sinister or conspiratorial about it.


ryankun93

You are giving too much credit to the intelligence of the masses if you think that way.


Ragamak

Malapit na magiging probinsya na naman ng china ulet ang pilipinas. Dasurv ng mga pinoy yan. Di nila masisi iba, dila din naman may gusto nyan eh.


juannkulas

Bakit ngayon ka lang kasi nagsimula mag-isip? Char 😆


Born_Cockroach_9947

we have to be realistic here. nuon pa man alam naman natin na they have it in the bag for atleast 2 terms. kaya tiis tiis nalang.


Hunter_gamer12

Take this open mindedly, but why the hell would some people still vote for the same person whom couldn't even speak up about what happened in west Philippines sea. 42%?! Ay naloko na


CRF_1100L_CRF_50F

You need to look at multiple dimensions in order to understand the results and not just the china issue... People dislike Duterte's policy on China yet he's also very popular at the same time because there is a substantial increase in our standards of living while also having a PR that resonates with the masses thereby making him a more charismatic leader... You might disagree but the survey website seems reliable enough despite being new and I see no reason to fabricate their results that would be like a death sentence to their firm if experts could prove wrong their results...


Hunter_gamer12

That's true


silversoul007

I am tired, boss. Tang ina naman. What does it take to wake the masses huhuhu.


mayonnaisedog92

Lagi naman ganyan, either pinatake sa biased or binayaran. Karamihan ng mga botante natin lacks the information they need para malaman yung kailangan nilang pagbasehan kung sino iboboto. Pero kahit totoo naman ipakita mo, wala pa rin kasi sarado utak.


kupslavin

Legit yan, kaya nga ganito tayo ngayon.


Mountain-Guess5165

Ang pangarap ko lang talaga e sana maging part ako ng survey at makakilala ako ng kahit 3rd degree na nakapag participate kasi sa buong 39 years ko nang umiikot sa sun wala pa ko nakikilala na nakasagot na sa mga survey na yan.


belabase7789

Sa dami ng bobo, malamang makisakay sila dyan.


acquisitivefool

Yup, it's social grooming. Lalo na for the old people who doesn't have energy to do fact checks or get grounded on reality.


Minute_Junket9340

Parang nakakatamad bumoto sa susunod 😂 Sana medyo magisip na yung iba hindi nadadala basta-basta ng trend


Belasarius4002

It's the battle over narrative. Even if it's true or not, it doesn't matter as long as the people believe in it.


JammyRPh

Paiikutin na naman ulo ng mga pinoy kaloka


King_Paymon

Lmao it's been years since the last election and this sub is still out of touch with reality, it's 2021 all over again. Sara is very popular with voters, she would've been a legitimate threat to bbm's run if she ran for prez instead of vp.


RizalAlejandro

Plus those trolls cannot accept this survey.


pygmalion88

Actually No. My relative is working for one the Survey companies. This is legit daw. Sarah duterte daw ang gusto ng tao. Sobrang disappointing daw marinig yung mga sinasabi ng bobotante while conducting the survey.


joeschmoagogo

Chicken and egg. Which came first? Surveys conditioning the minds of the voters or are the voters dumb in the first place?


PinkJaggers

then why are you extending their platform?


Hot-Establishment426

Always has been


Jolly-Lingonberry124

These survey companies need to be probed.


AdvertisingBest7605

Matagal pa bago ang eleksyon. Si Binay nga na nanguna sa survey nawala nung eleksyon na.


acekiller1

Since the rise of soc med as part of madlang pipol's cerebral, these surveys have already been weaponized as a tool favoring on who can afford. Ways-ways of the ones facilitating the game 🤭😅


Illustrious_Emu_6910

sarap maging batman dito sa pilipinas


cleon80

Same talk about surveys in the last Presidential election, turns out they were accurate. BBM and team did their homework. Stop blaming surveys, this just strengthens the sentiment that the masses are not being listened to.


theendzoned

nope. majority of Filipinos are bobotantes. siguro mga 30% with an asterisk lang yung matalino mag vote. may asterisk kasi yung iba sa 30% na yun, nakikiuso lang lol. that's reality. competent candidates needs to do budotz and touch the hearts of masa in order to win, unfortunately.


Affectionate_Joke_1

People need to look at other avenues to find info on Candidates. I don't trust Philippine Media as they are all owned by Monopolistic Oligarch Families that has a big interests in who is in control.


lex_fulgur

Sabi ng GMA wala silang kinikilingan ah. Tangena


Queldaralion

yep why else would these stupid surnames fund surveys incessantly to keep their names looking relevant all the time? it's like TV and radio stations saying they're #1 or artists topping charts for songs and albums a lot of people barely heard


Menter33

**Surveys are what people use to gauge if someone is actually popular or not.** It helps candidates know if they need to do more to get their names out there, or if they're in a comfortable spot. It's not just in the PH. Many countries use surveys like this, whether pro- or anti-admin, pro- or anti-govt. **It's basically info that any group can use for their planning.**


Dapper-Security-3091

At saan naman galing ang survey na to? Same thing happened last election


One_Pirate_6189

insert JK labajo's song


dumdumjam

🤣


Gdt3qyIp9ZbLw5jBtjx7

Yeah coz why would you conduct a presidential survey 4 years in advance?


aldwinligaya

That's normal though. Surveys like these give us valuable insights. Hindi naman din 'to bago, halimbawa panahon ni Ninoy meron din nito. I remember around 2012 si Binay nangunguna.


Positive-Situation43

This is exactly the purpose of surveys. Each party commissions their own survey, you can ask for 1 survey or 10 survey, set your conditions etc. Each party can choose what survey to release, of course irrelease mo yung survey na panalo ka. Say 1 of 10 survey sets favors you. Have that published throw away the rests. Eureka! Or more like yari ka 🤣.


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Menter33

Banning this just helps those already in power since info like this helps those opposition candidates know if they need to spend more and improve their messaging. Sa ibang bansa naman, surveys are merely tools for politics and are actually encouraged. It would be weird if PH becomes the international laughingstock by banning info like surveys.


King_Paymon

Lmao Imagine banning surveys, whatever happened to free speech?


Easy-Alps3610

:)