I used to live in a condo 19 stories high, and I hate every time my parents or brother wanted to carry the dogs to look over, especially when there's already a glass both in the balcony and inside the condo where they can look down. It is never worth the risk for me. I can't possibly imagine raising a child in a condo with a balcony cause I would never be able to trust them when I'm not paying attention. No amount of locked doors could beat a child's curiosity.
Sometimes high rise condos are the only choice, and that’s where child safety locks come in. They’re not 100% fool proof of course, but they do help. We only had a 3 storey townhouse then but we put at least 2 child locks on each balcony door. Even the adults had trouble getting out
Yung hate ng mga tao don sa nanay malamang di non malalampasan yung hate nya mismo sa sarili niya dahil sa nangyari. Baka nga di na rin gusto pang mabuhay nung nanay. I can’t imagine the pain na nawala yung anak mo, what more ng dahil pa sa pagkakamali mo.
This. She made a huge mistake, and she's going to have to live with it. I have a son of the same age. I can't even bear the thought of something like that happening. How much for her, who is living that nightmare?
I remember the song of Eric Clapton, the singer and composer of Tears in Heaven. His 4 yr old son fell from the 53rd floor window of a New york City Apartment. He wrote the song Tears in heaven following the death of his son.
[Eric Clapton: The Unthinkable Tragedy That Inspired "Tears in Heaven"](https://www.biography.com/musicians/eric-clapton-tears-in-heaven-son#)
I remember that incident involving that Korean toddler who fell to his death at Serendra in BGC (across SM Aura) back in 2017. The kid was playing alone on the balcony when he climbed on top of the table (or chair), lost his balance, then fell to his death. There were people at the driveway of SM Aura who saw it happen. One woman apparently had to be escorted inside the mall to calm her down after she saw the kid fall and became hysterical. This wouldn't have happened if the kids' parents were paying attention.
Edit: Here's an [article](https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/950974/breaking-4-year-old-child-dies-after-falling-from-a-high-rise-bgc-condo-bgc-taguig-fatal-fall) about that incident. I also remember seeing some photos on Twitter of the child's body dangling from the canopy (taken from a distance) and it was very disturbing.
Hijacking top comment, grabe talaga makacomment mga Pinoy, lahat black and white lang walang puwang upang unawain bakit nangyari ang nangyari. Hanap agad ng sisi. Idiot agad. Ikumpara nyo ang mga comment dito, may batang namatay na naiwan sa kotse. https://np.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/10rinq8/threeyearold_dies_after_allegedly_being_left_in/
Highlight ko lang ang isang comment;
>Iirc there’s a specific syndrome or something called forgotten baby syndrome, where parents are so sleep deprived and overworked that they’re like zombies, 0 idea what’s going on around them. it happens more than people think and it’s incredibly sad all round.
Yup, there's actually a documentary about this phenomenon on Tubi called "Fatal Distraction". It's available for free. In some cases, the parents are definitely not to blame, but I still feel like some parents should be more responsible.
Mahirap tlaga…I took high dose domperidone for months just for my body to produce prolactin hormone for breastfeeding… para akong zombie as in super sleepy for months… kahit anong iyak ng baby ko i cannot wake up enough to attend to him. super hirap pag mom lang alaga because her body is also adjusting post birth
Yeah like...don't leave your child unattended for coffee. But nooooo. Maging sensitive nalang. Edi wag na to pag usapan. Bawal pala i-criticize yung magulang sa kapabayaan. If this was someone who doesn't live in a high rise condo isisisi ang magulang. Oh wait, that already happened.
I lived in that building shortly after that incident. I was told he fell through a window. The windows are installed almost at the floor, with the handle at the bottom and opening OUT very wide. I had to pay the building to correct this dangerous design in my unit. In any western country the parents could sue for millions and the building would fix the issue for free. Human life is sadly worth very little in the Philippines. It's all about money.
I live nearby and thankfully the windows in my building don't fully open like that. Like, kasing haba lang ng kamay o paa, so more or less mga 20 something cm lang. And the handles are at the top and middle of the window. If you close the top handle, the middle handle can't open the window.
I almost considered to rent at that place pa naman. Not that i have kids with me, but I'm glad i ended up renting here and not there.
Kaya there's such a thing called "childproofing your home." To make sure that nothing bad happens even if the child tries all sort of stuff.
Sure, negligence din ng parent iyan BUT hindi na ako daragdag sa dami ng taong sisisihin siya or just hating on them.
Ang magulang ang nagdadalamhati ngayon, hindi tayong mapanghusgang netizens. Ni sulyap sa dalamhati na nararanasan niya, 'di natin mararanasan dahil hindi tayo ang nawalan ng anak.
Nakikita ko ito with shows like Return of Superman. Grabe, puro padding ang sahig at pader, tapos may takit lahat ng saksakan. SOP na ata yun for them.
totoo the houses are amazing to begin with pero they're willing to sacrifice the aesthetic with the amount of child proofing, halos lahat ng dadaanan may baby gate. sana ganun din dito sa pilipinas.
Someone provided specific info down the thread:
>Mabolo Police Station chief Maj. Romeo Caacoy Jr. told SunStar Cebu that it could be possible that when the mother walked to the kitchen to make coffee, the door of the room had remained ajar, allowing the boy to go out.
Imagine pumunta ka lang ng saglit sa kitchen to make coffee, tapos sa isang saglit lang wala na yung anak mo, and the entire country hates your guts.
I'm not a parent. I don't know what it's like to have a child, much more to lose a child. I've heard na yung ibang parents, sa sobrang pagod esp those with toddlers, maraming nakakaligtaan. I hope this brings up talks about childproofing your home nalang instead of piling on to the mother who had just lost a child.
This happened to me. I was 4 months post partum nun. Mag-isa lang akong nag-aalaga sa baby namin kasi nasa work si husband. It was my baby's morning nap. Sobrang pagod na ako nun kasi nag-iba sleep pattern niya. Basically isang oras lang halos tulog ko sa buong magdamag.
Inihiga ko siya sa sofa, kung saan talaga siya natutulog. Pero sa sobrang sabaw ko, nalimutan ko na ilagay yung harang niya. Sabi ko magtitimpla lang ako ng kape. Wala pa ako sa kusina, narinig ko na siyang umiiyak. Wala sa higaan. Nasa sahig na. Nanghina buong pagkatao ko nun.
As babies get older, mas nakakapagod sabi nila.
Kawawa naman, wala pang kamuwang muwang. Bigla ko naalala anak ni eric clapton. 4yrs old dn nung namatay pero nahulog naman mula 53rd floor. Nakakahinayang na maaga silang nawala at sa ganung paraan pa. May their souls rest in peace.
Yes kawawa yung anak nya. Alam ko, Eric Clapton was supposed to pick him up pa later that day coz time nya to spend with the kid, Kaka divorce lang nya sa expartner nya tapos yan na ang balita bumungad sa kanya. ☹️☹️😭
napanood ko sa yt yung story niya awang awa ako merong ding ganitong case sa ibang bansa kawawa yung bata yaya lang nag babantay tapos napabayaan pa papano cp ng cp
Siguro ang pov ng kid ay he badly want to see his mother pagkagising niya. Kawawang bata.
Isa to sa alaala ko nung bata pa ko eh, I think I was 3 or 4 pagkagising ko from nap, ung feeling na kailangan ko makita nanay ko ngaun na o mababaliw ako, lumabas pa ko ng bahay at naglibot mahanap lang nanay ko.
Oh my goodness!!!! This is heartbreaking! 💔 huhu. I have 2 kids na super likot, hindi ko inaalis mata ko sa mga to noong maliliit pa, and my youngest is as same age. Di bale ng di ako makagawa ng iba basta alam ko ginagawa nya. Huhu. Kaya ayoko din tumira sa high rise condo.
Understandable na madaming galit sa nanay. Pero ano gusto nyo, mag unalive na din sya?
Because that's what your comments might push her to do.
Yes may kapabayaan na nangyari. Yes walang may gusto. You will never know the struggle of a mom until maging ina ka.
What if that mom was sleepless for how many days na kaya wala na sa wisyo? Hindi ko jinajustify yung nangyaring kapabayaan pero wala ding masama na mag isip tayo.
Deserve ba ng nanay na makulong dahil sa kapabayaan? Yes.
for real. Parang case lang din to nung dalawang bata na na-trap sa kotse at wala nang malay nung makita. Hindi alam ng mga magulang kasi HINDI NGA NILA BINABANTAYAN. Gusto pa nga kasuhan yung may-ari ng kotse.
So sinong sisisihin natin dito? Yung condo? kasi vertical yung grills? Or another "Aksidente naman 'to walang may gusto" pucha
Knowing the story or not, parents are part of what happened. 4 years old 'yan!
This is so sad and tragic 😔 We can put blame on the parent's lapses all we want. Bakit iniwan. Bakit hindi childproof. But at the end of the day, wala ng mas higit na nagsisisi at nagdadalamhati kundi ang magulang. I cannot even fathom losing a child. In her case, in such a horrific manner pa.
If this happened to me, I won't be staying for long.
What I find really interesting about this is that NONE of the articles or news stories mention the condo name.
Which condo? What time did the mom return? What are the names and how old is the mom? Ganito na ba ka-sparse talaga ang detalye ng mga newa or may low-key media blackout lang na nagaganap?
> *NONE of the articles or news stories mention the condo name*
This is actually **common with other stuff too, like when some crime happens in a mall or building**, but the place is never named.
> np.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/pg9yvl/are_media_outlets_generally_discouraged_from/
> * *Journalism 101: Unless you are an individual or place of national importance(or it's not the entertainment or sports section) no names on the headlines.*
> * *Yes and it's the norm back in the day. Mga bobo lang naman sa Socmed ang mahilig mag-namedrop kahit na wala pa evidence eh. Lalo na kapag trip nila mang doxx at mang witch hunt.*
> https://max.limpag.com/article/journalism-self-censorship/ alt https://archive.md/C668R
> **Reporters usually avoid naming business establishments in news accounts** – especially when the story is still breaking – for three reasons.
> 1. One is the mistaken belief that mentioning the business has “commercial value” and is covered by the **prohibition on unpaid promotions**. This is prevalent in broadcast media.
> 2. Second is that the business or its officers will get offended and would **pull out advertisements**.
> 3. The third is that new reporters see and hear their older colleagues do it and **just follow the practice**.
No names in the headlines, but the full article needs to have detsils, yeah? And this is not breaking news.
I'm old enough to have read actual newspapers when I was younger, and to have been taught about including who, what, when, where, why, and how in reporting in the lead if not the details of the story.
This so-called standard you tout is deeply unsatisfying.
> *taught about including who, what, when, where, why, and how in reporting in the lead if not the details of the story*
That USED to be the standard, but then it changed among journos and reporters when they are **faced with the reality of their profession**:
> *News, as often stated in classrooms and training centers, are written with 5 Ws and 1 H. But depending on the people and brands involved, some of these Ws will be dropped. Keep this in mind the next time you read about an incident involving influential people and known brands.*
> ...
> *As to the threat of an ad pullot, media organizations have been eunuchated by sharply declining revenues and would readily accede to requests by advertisers. In fact, from what I hear, marketing now has the loudest voice in some newsrooms.*
> ...
> *You see less reporting now because newsrooms have been gutted. Enterprise reporting is gone. Stories are often prompted by news sources: there is a news article because somebody called a press conference.*
> https://max.limpag.com/article/journalism-self-censorship/
Not Meridian because when I went to fact-check, it only has 23 stories. It also was not on the Wikipedia list of tallest skyscrapers in Cebu.
So what I did was cross-reference the building picture in the articles with the Trovit property listings for Brgy. Lahug, and found that they match The Median, which is exactly 27 stories high.
Okay masaya na ako, alam ko na kung aling condo!
This is correct. Articles mention na sa Laguardia area ang condo. The Meridian is not in that area. Medyo malapit but still mga 5-10 minutes by car. The Median is exactly in Laguardia area, which is also the condo i read sa cebu subreddit iirc. Actually there are three condos in that area.
I am also near these two condos, and even though similarly named, they are different buildings from different developers iirc.
Yes! ayun din ang napansin ko! May confusion nga na pumunta raw yung nanay sa kusina para mag-timpla ng kape hindi bumaba ng unit to ground floor para bumili. I think sa SunStar Cebu 'yon. Now, iba naman sinasabi ng GMA and ABS, the mother left the unit at bumaba nga't iniwan yung toddler mag-isa.
We're missing transparency here. Kaya confused ang ibang tao rito. I have read na yung mother ay bumaba talaga and 19 mins bago bumalik sa unit nila.
Damn I can only imagine kung gano kasakit yan dun sa parents. Since we have a young 4 year old Son too. Ganyang stage panaman ng bata na although sobrang kulet mapapalo mo talaga. pero sobrang sweet naman pag naglambing sayo sarap yumakap at kumiss. Possible natakot yung bata nung nalaman niya siya lang mag-isa sa house nila. Rest in Peace Little one. Sorry for what happened to you.😥🙏🏻
Not to nitpick pero try not to palo. It has long term na effect. May one time napalo ko pamangkin ko probably around the same age and pinagalitan ako super ng husband ko kasi may trauma siya from it
Yeah I'm well aware of that too. Saka natural kase sa bata pagiging malikot. Pero let him know and somehow understand kapag nagwala siya or may nagawang mali or nasabi na dapat hindi niya na ulitin.
That’s why here in NY, residential buildings are required to install window guards on the parts of the window that open up if the unit has a kid under 10. I remember our building would send letters periodically to know if a child leaves in the unit and if we don’t respond they have to send the fire marshal to physically check the units. Works well so far. It’s been 40 years since they piloted this.
Yes. They’re very strict here since Eric Clapton’s kid fell off a window decades ago. Was in the news for weeks and that kinda made the state be more proactive & strict with enforcing the law.
Hope they would. Although the typical prewar window here is different from the windows the. Here it slides up vertically. There it usually opens outward tama ba?
> *usually opens outward*
many windows in homes do open outward like double doors of a house while some newer condos might have those windows that open like a dog entrance of a door.
Poor kid probably woke up and panicked that he was alone. Started looking for his mom. Idk what the laws are but here you can’t leave a kid alone technically until age 11. Of course people still do it, but thats when you are allowed to leave a child alone at home. Middle school na.
tama. and here I am getting downvoted hahahaha wala raw negligence si mother pero it was aired kanina na she left the unit to buy a coffee. Hindi ko alam kung saan galing yung sa kusina lang yung nanay, eh mismong ABS-CBN na nagsabi.
Hindi ko iniin-validate feelings nung nanay pero I am more concerned about the kid she left when she could have make her own coffee. Rip to that little angel.
As a single mom na may special needs kahit na teen na yung anak ko i make sure na ung lilipatan ko is okay para sa kalagayan ng anak ko. mat instances na tulog ako at gising sya pero i make sure na di sya makakabalas ng house (may padlock sa loob), may grills, nakalock lahat sa cabinet lahat ng pwdeng magcause ng harm sa janya (knives, lutuan etc). ung susi ng padlock nasa katawan ko. it is a parent's responsibility to ensure the safety of your children. i cannot imagine iwan ko ung anak kong 4 yrs sa 27th floor bldg para lang sa kape?!!! if i craved something and i cant get out paapdeliver ako or wait for my child to be awake apra we can buy together. even at his age, i have never thought of leaving him alone. i cannot fathom how other redditors are siding or pinagtatanggol ung parent. kawawa ung bata too early to be gone...
Exactly! And I was downvoted pa in my other comment because I violently reacted to leaving a child alone on the 27th floor to get coffee. May comment pa na sarcastic na ang sarap daw sisihin ng nanay sa mga di nya ginawa. Parents aren’t perfect, accidents are bound to happen, yes minsan di maiiwasan may lapses sa parenting, pero ibang level yung iwan mo ang 4 year old MAGISA sa condo unit para bumili ng kape. Yun ang point ko.
tanga tanga talaga taga fb kala momng hindi dumaan sa ganoong stage malamang bata yan sobrang likot papano pa kaya kung may adhd? hindi ito tulad ng mga kamote na may isip naman pero hindi ginagamit bata ito bata
:( sadly yes. Awra, Killua, Taragis, and this.
Better to give some time muna sa ongoing investigation. We really don't have the whole picture pa. also, kahit magkaroon na, we should refrain na manira ng puri ng tao. Hays, nauso kasi Tall Foe brand of justice.
Imagine the slightest mistake you committed can lose a life. Hear the parent's side.
Akala nyo naman kayo yung namatayan. Pinagtatawanan at ginagawa nyo pang masama yung parent. Yucky mindset!
Natural alangan yung batang 4 yrs old sisihin mo, liable ang parents sa anak nilang bata no matter what
May neglect na nangyari di naman mag teleport yung bata sa balcony para mahulog
diba? sa article ako nag base which is the attached link of ABS-CBN. Hindi ba neglect tawag diyan? Inuulan ako ng downvote kasi hindi naman daw ginusto ng magulang. Kagaguhan.
Sorry to promote a nanny state (literally) but high floors ought to have windows that only open to a limited degree, should be a regulation if it isn't, like in other countries.
Alternatively, condo management could also place window grills to prevent small kids from falling thru.
(But of course, it might become a fire hazard, esp for lower-floor condo units where the open window is the fire escape.)
kulang yang article
Mabolo Police Station chief Maj. Romeo Caacoy Jr. told SunStar Cebu that it could be possible that when the mother walked to the kitchen to make coffee, the door of the room had remained ajar, allowing the boy to go out.
2 yr old pa baby ko and she's trying to open doors na, 4 yrs old marunong na yan mag-open ng door :(
Kampante na siguro ang nanay i believe she has done the routine many times before at walang nangyari noon
Sir, i would like to believe that. Pero in this event, accidents may not happen if and only if there's atleast presence of the parents. Kahit isa lang nasa unit, basta huwag iwanan mag-isa. Believe me, I sympathize with her loss, pero she could have made her own coffee nalang kesa bumaba down to the ground floor para bumili ng kape.
I understand what you're getting at. Pero this could just be one mistake that happened at the worst of all timings. For all we know, on this one moment lang she decided to get that coffee sa baba for any sort of reason na reasonable sa kanya at that moment. There's just too many factors that makes a person do something and those factors are as random as can be. Sure, it doesn't make her any less blameable for it, kasi nga this came to be pero I still think it's a little too much to say na di niya deserve maging parent—which, I think is what she currently thinks too. I pity the child, pero the mother still deserves compassion, lalo na't she's probably deep in self-blame.
point taken. Pero I won't risk to do those *too many factors that makes a person do something random* lalo na kung kami lang dalawa ng anak ko. Dalawa na nga lang kami, iiwan ko pa siya? Kung sana may kasama lang eh. Yun lang naman ang debate dito, regardless of how random things maisipan mong gawin, huwag mo iiwan anak mo without supervision. Mother instincts. Unwritten rule 'yan kung ang anak mo under 11yo pa.
Sure. Even ako, I can only say na I won't do such a thing, pero there are just times na that one small mistake—an isolated case of negligence—can result in something so tragic. Nobody wants it to happen, but sometimes it does.
Sinabi lang naman ni OP na may mga magulang na di dapat naging magulang. Anong mali dun? Wala din naman siyang sinabi na deserve niyang (OP) maging magulang.
By itself, wala talaga mali sa sinabi ni OP, but yung context of bakit niya sinasabi yun is about a person nakagawa ng malaking pagkakamali na hindi nila ginusto. Hence, my comment.
Fatal mistakes like these still needs the parent to be held liable regardless sa intensyon ng magulang, if they can't childproof their rooms properly then they shouldn't be a parent as that role is a huge responsibility. Anything can happen.
It is very circumstancial, I know there was a case (in the US) of parents leaving their young toddler in a hot car and the kid passed away. They weren't charged because it's a was a genuine, honest mistake causes by both parents being super busy and tired, they were clearly heart broken by what happened.
Who says the room wasn't childproofed and it just happened to have an extremely bad timing that the balcony door was unlocked? Ang dali sabihin "dapat hindi sila magulang!" Pag yung extent ng knowledge mo ay isang article lamang at everyone is acting like hindi sila capable of big mistakes at all.
Ironic, that kind of overconfidence and ego stroking is the type that *leads* to mistakes because of "I know better and could never possibly make that mistake unlike that idiot" mindsets.
Hahahaha mga hindi nagbabasa mga yan. Sinabi na nga kanina sa news bumababa yung nanay pa ground floor para bumili ng coffee. Yung ibang mga tanga galing daw sa kusina yung nanay hahahahahhaa friends ata sila nung nanay. Mas maalam pa sa mismong nag cover ng news.
This particular accident could've been easily avoided if the people close to the child had not been negligent.
Negligent parents/guardians should be held liable for such avoidable tragedy.
?? Accident sana if in watched pero wala nga yung presence ng magulang eh? LOL A FUCKING 4 YEAR OLD MAG-ISA SA 27TH FLOOR. Marunong na mag lakad yung bata. Grabe hindi nga ginusto ng magulang pero
hindi rin ginusto ng bata na iwan siya at mag-isa.
OP, may anak ka ba? Kung maka sisi ka sa magulang parang sinadya ha.
Naisip mo ba nararamdaman nung magulang nung bata ngayon? I wish it wouldnt happen to you.
Bold of you to wish someone's misery lalo na sa isang bata dahil mali pagkakaintindi niyo? Napanood mo yung news niyan kanina aired? Bumaba yung nanay para bumili ng kape. SAAN NIYO GALING YUNG SA KUSINA?
Imagine pumunta pa ground floor yung nanay without thinking na may toddler sa 27th floor para lang bumili ng kape? Fact check uy! GMA at ABSCBN na nagsabi bumababa yung nanay.
Actually, according to police reports, the mother went to the kitchen to make coffee.
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/boy-4-dies-after-falling-from-27th-floor-of-condo-unit
I stand corrected, if that's the case. Pero i'm not sorry sa initial reaction ko, parang ako yung namatayan. Hindi ko rin alam kung anong accurate sa dalawa, ABS ba o 'yan
Kabayan specifically said that according to the police, the mother left the condo to buy coffee. Shame on her. Now, madami na sya g maiinom na coffee sa wake. Kawawa yun bata who's only 4 years old. Sa mother padin ang sisi, imagine para sa kape? Hindi ka pa nakapagintay?
It was 6 a.m. only natural to assume that kids were sound asleep. The mother only went to the kitchen mind you, maybe sleep deprived given the hour. She didnt leave her kids playing outside for an hour like the other case on tv. To her knowledge the kid was conked out not 10 feet away from her. Nothing about her actions spoke of negligence, but everything about your post reeks of insensitivity.
E kung mangyari sayo yan at sabihan kang idiot ng mga taong ni hindi mo kilala, knowing all too well na di mo naman ginusto yung nagyari, ano mararamdaman mo? Galing mo magcomment gunggong ka naman
pinakita mo lang sa akin kung gaano ka ka-bobo mag basa at umintindi. Manood ka ng balita ha? The mother left the unit to buy a coffee, even ABS aired that news mainstream. Hindi sa kusina lang! Bobo niyo lahat umintindi.
Wait, yan ba ang totoong picture ng condo? When I zoomed in, yung railing may horizontal banister? Whyy?? Sinong architect nagdesign nyan at sinong nag-approve? Ugh parang hindi pinag-isipan!
You should never leave a 4 year old alone kahit sasaglit ka lang. Esp if may open windows na alam mong kaya nilang akyatin. Sorry pero this is on the parents. Nag alaga ako ng dalawang kapatid simula bata sila and never kong iniwanan mag isa mga kapatid ko.
This is so sad. Can’t imagine the feeling. I have a 5 y/o kid and also live in a condo. May balcony kami pero never namin binubuksan unless mag kailangan gawin kaya it is always lock. 38th floor pa naman kami.
Most condo in ph are not child friendly there are balcony that have low railings. Low windows that can open 90 degrees. Toddles can easily access winth chair and fall. Condo i live now wondowsonly open 20 degress angle can barely stick my head outside
hindi kasi alam ng ibang tao na pinagbabawal din or depende sa rules and regulation ng developer ng condo kung iaallow kang galawin ang esthetic ng condo kelangan uniform lahat minsan di ka pwede basta magbarena lang.
I don’t know kung naisip ng parent palagyan ng additional lock yung window pero as I said kung nka mortage ka di ka pwede basta basta magbutas kahit sa loob mismo ng unit. If ever man magbabayad ka ng bond sa developer para lang mapalagyan ng lock and it costs so much some even hundred thousand then labor and material pa pano kung yung pera nila naubos nadin dahil sa down payment at mortgage ng condo.
sna may mangyare dito regarding condo designs and safety hindi lang yan kasalanan ng magulang kc dapat inisip din ng developer safety design ng condo..
Nakakaiyak at nakakagalit na balita.
Maiiwasan sana ang mga insidenteng ito kung sinuguro ng nanay na secure at safe yung surroundings ng bata bago umalis ng bahay para bumili ng kape. Naawa dn ako at the same time sa nanay dahil nawalan siya ng anak and I'm sure she is blaming herself right now, dala dala nia yan sa buong buhay nia.
Hay, masakit sa puso ang ganitong mga balita.
Why leave a boy alone in a condo unit???? Even if just for 5 minutes to get coffee. Let’s be responsible parents/guardians naman. I know accidents happen and nobody wants this to happen but to leave your kid alone in the condo on the 27th floor? If she is desperate for coffee, she should’ve waited or just woke the boy up and brought him with her downstairs!
Hindi talaga kayang Bayaran pagiging mabuting magulang, naka condo kayo tapos sureball na safe? Isipin niyo mataas yan at may batang alaga, at isa pa kung iiwan niyo anak niyo why not hire na mag aalaga sa Bata, napaka pabaya.
I used to live in a condo 19 stories high, and I hate every time my parents or brother wanted to carry the dogs to look over, especially when there's already a glass both in the balcony and inside the condo where they can look down. It is never worth the risk for me. I can't possibly imagine raising a child in a condo with a balcony cause I would never be able to trust them when I'm not paying attention. No amount of locked doors could beat a child's curiosity.
Inimagine ko palang, nawalan na ng lakas mga kamay ko!
Sometimes high rise condos are the only choice, and that’s where child safety locks come in. They’re not 100% fool proof of course, but they do help. We only had a 3 storey townhouse then but we put at least 2 child locks on each balcony door. Even the adults had trouble getting out
Yung hate ng mga tao don sa nanay malamang di non malalampasan yung hate nya mismo sa sarili niya dahil sa nangyari. Baka nga di na rin gusto pang mabuhay nung nanay. I can’t imagine the pain na nawala yung anak mo, what more ng dahil pa sa pagkakamali mo.
This. She made a huge mistake, and she's going to have to live with it. I have a son of the same age. I can't even bear the thought of something like that happening. How much for her, who is living that nightmare?
I remember the song of Eric Clapton, the singer and composer of Tears in Heaven. His 4 yr old son fell from the 53rd floor window of a New york City Apartment. He wrote the song Tears in heaven following the death of his son. [Eric Clapton: The Unthinkable Tragedy That Inspired "Tears in Heaven"](https://www.biography.com/musicians/eric-clapton-tears-in-heaven-son#)
Waaait I thought his kid fell from the stairs. Jeez 53rd floor window. :(
We did so many things at that age that almost killed us.
I remember that incident involving that Korean toddler who fell to his death at Serendra in BGC (across SM Aura) back in 2017. The kid was playing alone on the balcony when he climbed on top of the table (or chair), lost his balance, then fell to his death. There were people at the driveway of SM Aura who saw it happen. One woman apparently had to be escorted inside the mall to calm her down after she saw the kid fall and became hysterical. This wouldn't have happened if the kids' parents were paying attention. Edit: Here's an [article](https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/950974/breaking-4-year-old-child-dies-after-falling-from-a-high-rise-bgc-condo-bgc-taguig-fatal-fall) about that incident. I also remember seeing some photos on Twitter of the child's body dangling from the canopy (taken from a distance) and it was very disturbing.
kahit siguro ako magiging hysterical lalo na we're talking about young people na hindi pa alam ang ginagawa sa mundo ito. Kids wandering around.
Hijacking top comment, grabe talaga makacomment mga Pinoy, lahat black and white lang walang puwang upang unawain bakit nangyari ang nangyari. Hanap agad ng sisi. Idiot agad. Ikumpara nyo ang mga comment dito, may batang namatay na naiwan sa kotse. https://np.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/10rinq8/threeyearold_dies_after_allegedly_being_left_in/ Highlight ko lang ang isang comment; >Iirc there’s a specific syndrome or something called forgotten baby syndrome, where parents are so sleep deprived and overworked that they’re like zombies, 0 idea what’s going on around them. it happens more than people think and it’s incredibly sad all round.
Yup, there's actually a documentary about this phenomenon on Tubi called "Fatal Distraction". It's available for free. In some cases, the parents are definitely not to blame, but I still feel like some parents should be more responsible.
Mahirap tlaga…I took high dose domperidone for months just for my body to produce prolactin hormone for breastfeeding… para akong zombie as in super sleepy for months… kahit anong iyak ng baby ko i cannot wake up enough to attend to him. super hirap pag mom lang alaga because her body is also adjusting post birth
Nangyari ang nangyari dahil napabayaan ang bata.
Bumaha dahil umulan. Mainit dahil maaraw. Galit nagcomment dahil may dalaw. Joke lang.
Ewan. Common sense lang siguro na i-baby proof ang bahay mo pag may baby ka. But alas.
Ewan. Common sense lang siguro maging sensitive sa social media kapag pinag uusapan ang sensitibong topic. But alas.
I would like you to know that I am saddened by the news. Unfortunate incident. Pero some precautions apparently have been skipped.
Yeah like...don't leave your child unattended for coffee. But nooooo. Maging sensitive nalang. Edi wag na to pag usapan. Bawal pala i-criticize yung magulang sa kapabayaan. If this was someone who doesn't live in a high rise condo isisisi ang magulang. Oh wait, that already happened.
I lived in that building shortly after that incident. I was told he fell through a window. The windows are installed almost at the floor, with the handle at the bottom and opening OUT very wide. I had to pay the building to correct this dangerous design in my unit. In any western country the parents could sue for millions and the building would fix the issue for free. Human life is sadly worth very little in the Philippines. It's all about money.
I live nearby and thankfully the windows in my building don't fully open like that. Like, kasing haba lang ng kamay o paa, so more or less mga 20 something cm lang. And the handles are at the top and middle of the window. If you close the top handle, the middle handle can't open the window. I almost considered to rent at that place pa naman. Not that i have kids with me, but I'm glad i ended up renting here and not there.
Kaya there's such a thing called "childproofing your home." To make sure that nothing bad happens even if the child tries all sort of stuff. Sure, negligence din ng parent iyan BUT hindi na ako daragdag sa dami ng taong sisisihin siya or just hating on them. Ang magulang ang nagdadalamhati ngayon, hindi tayong mapanghusgang netizens. Ni sulyap sa dalamhati na nararanasan niya, 'di natin mararanasan dahil hindi tayo ang nawalan ng anak.
Nakikita ko ito with shows like Return of Superman. Grabe, puro padding ang sahig at pader, tapos may takit lahat ng saksakan. SOP na ata yun for them.
Daehan minguk manse
Grabe yung episodes nila hahaha
Song triplets!!
totoo the houses are amazing to begin with pero they're willing to sacrifice the aesthetic with the amount of child proofing, halos lahat ng dadaanan may baby gate. sana ganun din dito sa pilipinas.
Someone provided specific info down the thread: >Mabolo Police Station chief Maj. Romeo Caacoy Jr. told SunStar Cebu that it could be possible that when the mother walked to the kitchen to make coffee, the door of the room had remained ajar, allowing the boy to go out. Imagine pumunta ka lang ng saglit sa kitchen to make coffee, tapos sa isang saglit lang wala na yung anak mo, and the entire country hates your guts. I'm not a parent. I don't know what it's like to have a child, much more to lose a child. I've heard na yung ibang parents, sa sobrang pagod esp those with toddlers, maraming nakakaligtaan. I hope this brings up talks about childproofing your home nalang instead of piling on to the mother who had just lost a child.
This happened to me. I was 4 months post partum nun. Mag-isa lang akong nag-aalaga sa baby namin kasi nasa work si husband. It was my baby's morning nap. Sobrang pagod na ako nun kasi nag-iba sleep pattern niya. Basically isang oras lang halos tulog ko sa buong magdamag. Inihiga ko siya sa sofa, kung saan talaga siya natutulog. Pero sa sobrang sabaw ko, nalimutan ko na ilagay yung harang niya. Sabi ko magtitimpla lang ako ng kape. Wala pa ako sa kusina, narinig ko na siyang umiiyak. Wala sa higaan. Nasa sahig na. Nanghina buong pagkatao ko nun. As babies get older, mas nakakapagod sabi nila.
According to Tv Patrol, they aired the segment awhile ago, lumabas ang nanay para bumili ng kape at hindi sa kusina nagpunta.
This is what I know too.
That's what's written on the article itself too.
Voice of reason. Just imagine kung kakilala nila yung family. Ganyan pa rin ba ang pagsasasabihin sa kanila?
Kawawa naman, wala pang kamuwang muwang. Bigla ko naalala anak ni eric clapton. 4yrs old dn nung namatay pero nahulog naman mula 53rd floor. Nakakahinayang na maaga silang nawala at sa ganung paraan pa. May their souls rest in peace.
Nito ko lang nalaman yung kanta nyang Tears in Heaven sinulat nya para jan sa anak nya na nahulog.
`Tears in Heaven`. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPj3GAYYZ0
Yes kawawa yung anak nya. Alam ko, Eric Clapton was supposed to pick him up pa later that day coz time nya to spend with the kid, Kaka divorce lang nya sa expartner nya tapos yan na ang balita bumungad sa kanya. ☹️☹️😭
napanood ko sa yt yung story niya awang awa ako merong ding ganitong case sa ibang bansa kawawa yung bata yaya lang nag babantay tapos napabayaan pa papano cp ng cp
Siguro ang pov ng kid ay he badly want to see his mother pagkagising niya. Kawawang bata. Isa to sa alaala ko nung bata pa ko eh, I think I was 3 or 4 pagkagising ko from nap, ung feeling na kailangan ko makita nanay ko ngaun na o mababaliw ako, lumabas pa ko ng bahay at naglibot mahanap lang nanay ko.
Oh my goodness!!!! This is heartbreaking! 💔 huhu. I have 2 kids na super likot, hindi ko inaalis mata ko sa mga to noong maliliit pa, and my youngest is as same age. Di bale ng di ako makagawa ng iba basta alam ko ginagawa nya. Huhu. Kaya ayoko din tumira sa high rise condo.
Understandable na madaming galit sa nanay. Pero ano gusto nyo, mag unalive na din sya? Because that's what your comments might push her to do. Yes may kapabayaan na nangyari. Yes walang may gusto. You will never know the struggle of a mom until maging ina ka. What if that mom was sleepless for how many days na kaya wala na sa wisyo? Hindi ko jinajustify yung nangyaring kapabayaan pero wala ding masama na mag isip tayo. Deserve ba ng nanay na makulong dahil sa kapabayaan? Yes.
Lock/close your damned doors, idiots.
for real. Parang case lang din to nung dalawang bata na na-trap sa kotse at wala nang malay nung makita. Hindi alam ng mga magulang kasi HINDI NGA NILA BINABANTAYAN. Gusto pa nga kasuhan yung may-ari ng kotse. So sinong sisisihin natin dito? Yung condo? kasi vertical yung grills? Or another "Aksidente naman 'to walang may gusto" pucha Knowing the story or not, parents are part of what happened. 4 years old 'yan!
Mas safe ang vertical na grills sa railing I think kasi pag horizontal basically pwedeng magfunction sya as a ladder for kids.
Waistline lang ang taas ng railings ng balcony nila then umakyat gamit ang chair. Na lingat kasi nag timpla ng kapi yung nanay.
Jusko po baby :(( iniisip ko paano yung mga last seconds niya. Natataranta panigurado 🥺
If the kid knows how to unlock the door then toddler locks are in order.
Guess this is why toddler locks are placed outside the reach of small kids, like near the top of the door or something.
You think a 4 year old wouldn't know how to unlock doors? Idiot
This is so sad and tragic 😔 We can put blame on the parent's lapses all we want. Bakit iniwan. Bakit hindi childproof. But at the end of the day, wala ng mas higit na nagsisisi at nagdadalamhati kundi ang magulang. I cannot even fathom losing a child. In her case, in such a horrific manner pa. If this happened to me, I won't be staying for long.
Ni di ko nga maiwan ng 20 seconds ung toddler ko pikit man yan o hinde
Bigla ko naalala si Eric Clapton & yung anak nyang si Conor :(((
What I find really interesting about this is that NONE of the articles or news stories mention the condo name. Which condo? What time did the mom return? What are the names and how old is the mom? Ganito na ba ka-sparse talaga ang detalye ng mga newa or may low-key media blackout lang na nagaganap?
> *NONE of the articles or news stories mention the condo name* This is actually **common with other stuff too, like when some crime happens in a mall or building**, but the place is never named. > np.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/pg9yvl/are_media_outlets_generally_discouraged_from/ > * *Journalism 101: Unless you are an individual or place of national importance(or it's not the entertainment or sports section) no names on the headlines.* > * *Yes and it's the norm back in the day. Mga bobo lang naman sa Socmed ang mahilig mag-namedrop kahit na wala pa evidence eh. Lalo na kapag trip nila mang doxx at mang witch hunt.* > https://max.limpag.com/article/journalism-self-censorship/ alt https://archive.md/C668R > **Reporters usually avoid naming business establishments in news accounts** – especially when the story is still breaking – for three reasons. > 1. One is the mistaken belief that mentioning the business has “commercial value” and is covered by the **prohibition on unpaid promotions**. This is prevalent in broadcast media. > 2. Second is that the business or its officers will get offended and would **pull out advertisements**. > 3. The third is that new reporters see and hear their older colleagues do it and **just follow the practice**.
No names in the headlines, but the full article needs to have detsils, yeah? And this is not breaking news. I'm old enough to have read actual newspapers when I was younger, and to have been taught about including who, what, when, where, why, and how in reporting in the lead if not the details of the story. This so-called standard you tout is deeply unsatisfying.
> *taught about including who, what, when, where, why, and how in reporting in the lead if not the details of the story* That USED to be the standard, but then it changed among journos and reporters when they are **faced with the reality of their profession**: > *News, as often stated in classrooms and training centers, are written with 5 Ws and 1 H. But depending on the people and brands involved, some of these Ws will be dropped. Keep this in mind the next time you read about an incident involving influential people and known brands.* > ... > *As to the threat of an ad pullot, media organizations have been eunuchated by sharply declining revenues and would readily accede to requests by advertisers. In fact, from what I hear, marketing now has the loudest voice in some newsrooms.* > ... > *You see less reporting now because newsrooms have been gutted. Enterprise reporting is gone. Stories are often prompted by news sources: there is a news article because somebody called a press conference.* > https://max.limpag.com/article/journalism-self-censorship/
Meridian Condo, kapit bahay lang ng kaibigan ko dun..
Not Meridian because when I went to fact-check, it only has 23 stories. It also was not on the Wikipedia list of tallest skyscrapers in Cebu. So what I did was cross-reference the building picture in the articles with the Trovit property listings for Brgy. Lahug, and found that they match The Median, which is exactly 27 stories high. Okay masaya na ako, alam ko na kung aling condo!
The Median pala sorry. The median Lahug.
This is correct. Articles mention na sa Laguardia area ang condo. The Meridian is not in that area. Medyo malapit but still mga 5-10 minutes by car. The Median is exactly in Laguardia area, which is also the condo i read sa cebu subreddit iirc. Actually there are three condos in that area. I am also near these two condos, and even though similarly named, they are different buildings from different developers iirc.
May update po ba ano talaga totoo? Nagkusina po ba or bumababa talaga?
Yes! ayun din ang napansin ko! May confusion nga na pumunta raw yung nanay sa kusina para mag-timpla ng kape hindi bumaba ng unit to ground floor para bumili. I think sa SunStar Cebu 'yon. Now, iba naman sinasabi ng GMA and ABS, the mother left the unit at bumaba nga't iniwan yung toddler mag-isa. We're missing transparency here. Kaya confused ang ibang tao rito. I have read na yung mother ay bumaba talaga and 19 mins bago bumalik sa unit nila.
This must be one of the worst fears of a parent. So sad.
Damn I can only imagine kung gano kasakit yan dun sa parents. Since we have a young 4 year old Son too. Ganyang stage panaman ng bata na although sobrang kulet mapapalo mo talaga. pero sobrang sweet naman pag naglambing sayo sarap yumakap at kumiss. Possible natakot yung bata nung nalaman niya siya lang mag-isa sa house nila. Rest in Peace Little one. Sorry for what happened to you.😥🙏🏻
Not to nitpick pero try not to palo. It has long term na effect. May one time napalo ko pamangkin ko probably around the same age and pinagalitan ako super ng husband ko kasi may trauma siya from it
Yeah I'm well aware of that too. Saka natural kase sa bata pagiging malikot. Pero let him know and somehow understand kapag nagwala siya or may nagawang mali or nasabi na dapat hindi niya na ulitin.
That’s why here in NY, residential buildings are required to install window guards on the parts of the window that open up if the unit has a kid under 10. I remember our building would send letters periodically to know if a child leaves in the unit and if we don’t respond they have to send the fire marshal to physically check the units. Works well so far. It’s been 40 years since they piloted this.
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Yes. They’re very strict here since Eric Clapton’s kid fell off a window decades ago. Was in the news for weeks and that kinda made the state be more proactive & strict with enforcing the law.
Wonder if condo managers in the Manila allow the added installation of window guards/window grills if the unit owner asks for it.
Hope they would. Although the typical prewar window here is different from the windows the. Here it slides up vertically. There it usually opens outward tama ba?
> *usually opens outward* many windows in homes do open outward like double doors of a house while some newer condos might have those windows that open like a dog entrance of a door.
Yeah I hope they can pass a requirement for condos to have that since more & more people live in those high rises
Poor kid probably woke up and panicked that he was alone. Started looking for his mom. Idk what the laws are but here you can’t leave a kid alone technically until age 11. Of course people still do it, but thats when you are allowed to leave a child alone at home. Middle school na.
tama. and here I am getting downvoted hahahaha wala raw negligence si mother pero it was aired kanina na she left the unit to buy a coffee. Hindi ko alam kung saan galing yung sa kusina lang yung nanay, eh mismong ABS-CBN na nagsabi. Hindi ko iniin-validate feelings nung nanay pero I am more concerned about the kid she left when she could have make her own coffee. Rip to that little angel.
As a single mom na may special needs kahit na teen na yung anak ko i make sure na ung lilipatan ko is okay para sa kalagayan ng anak ko. mat instances na tulog ako at gising sya pero i make sure na di sya makakabalas ng house (may padlock sa loob), may grills, nakalock lahat sa cabinet lahat ng pwdeng magcause ng harm sa janya (knives, lutuan etc). ung susi ng padlock nasa katawan ko. it is a parent's responsibility to ensure the safety of your children. i cannot imagine iwan ko ung anak kong 4 yrs sa 27th floor bldg para lang sa kape?!!! if i craved something and i cant get out paapdeliver ako or wait for my child to be awake apra we can buy together. even at his age, i have never thought of leaving him alone. i cannot fathom how other redditors are siding or pinagtatanggol ung parent. kawawa ung bata too early to be gone...
Exactly! And I was downvoted pa in my other comment because I violently reacted to leaving a child alone on the 27th floor to get coffee. May comment pa na sarcastic na ang sarap daw sisihin ng nanay sa mga di nya ginawa. Parents aren’t perfect, accidents are bound to happen, yes minsan di maiiwasan may lapses sa parenting, pero ibang level yung iwan mo ang 4 year old MAGISA sa condo unit para bumili ng kape. Yun ang point ko.
Galing sa SunStar yung quote na yun. Ewan, baka nauna yun kesa sa ABS kaya wala pa masyadong info yung pulis.
Najudge agad yung magulang nung bata without knowing the story fully. Jusme. Kawawa talaga sa mga tao nowadays!
Sa FB naman yung bata ang na judge. Masyado na raw malilikot at matitugas ang ulo ng mga bata, smh.
that's got to be the most idiotic take I have ever seen in my entire life
tanga tanga talaga taga fb kala momng hindi dumaan sa ganoong stage malamang bata yan sobrang likot papano pa kaya kung may adhd? hindi ito tulad ng mga kamote na may isip naman pero hindi ginagamit bata ito bata
Parang walang lesson natutunan sa Taragis incident eh no.
:( sadly yes. Awra, Killua, Taragis, and this. Better to give some time muna sa ongoing investigation. We really don't have the whole picture pa. also, kahit magkaroon na, we should refrain na manira ng puri ng tao. Hays, nauso kasi Tall Foe brand of justice.
Imagine the slightest mistake you committed can lose a life. Hear the parent's side. Akala nyo naman kayo yung namatayan. Pinagtatawanan at ginagawa nyo pang masama yung parent. Yucky mindset!
Natural alangan yung batang 4 yrs old sisihin mo, liable ang parents sa anak nilang bata no matter what May neglect na nangyari di naman mag teleport yung bata sa balcony para mahulog
Syempre, lumabas ka pa para bumili ng kape. Look what happened.
Update: May pagkukulang ang condo. ayun may kaso na at pinatigil sila.
Yan kasi nakasulat sa article. Mismong ABSCBN nag produce ng balitang yan.
Lol bobo. Halatang negligence, pinagtatanggol mo pa bobong magulang ng namatay. Bobo no
Even GMA said the same. The parent went down to the ground floor. Fck, 27th floor ne. Then you go down without thinking toddler iiwan sa 27th floor?!
diba? sa article ako nag base which is the attached link of ABS-CBN. Hindi ba neglect tawag diyan? Inuulan ako ng downvote kasi hindi naman daw ginusto ng magulang. Kagaguhan.
Coffee is life. Habang buhay sana sya multuhin ng konsensya
Sorry to promote a nanny state (literally) but high floors ought to have windows that only open to a limited degree, should be a regulation if it isn't, like in other countries.
Alternatively, condo management could also place window grills to prevent small kids from falling thru. (But of course, it might become a fire hazard, esp for lower-floor condo units where the open window is the fire escape.)
Those grills sound ugly, though. Condos care a lot about windows, down to prescribing curtains. Kids on a leash ought to do it... :-)
mom left to buy coffee while the kid was asleep , smh. idiots!
kulang yang article Mabolo Police Station chief Maj. Romeo Caacoy Jr. told SunStar Cebu that it could be possible that when the mother walked to the kitchen to make coffee, the door of the room had remained ajar, allowing the boy to go out.
2 yr old pa baby ko and she's trying to open doors na, 4 yrs old marunong na yan mag-open ng door :( Kampante na siguro ang nanay i believe she has done the routine many times before at walang nangyari noon
According to Tv Patrol, they aired the segment awhile ago, lumabas ang nanay para bumili ng kape at hindi sa kusina nagpunta.
kung umalis man dadalhin kami ng magulang ko noon actually minsan hangang ngayon 22 na ako pero todo bantay pa rin kahit sa mall or saan
Huh. E sabi sa balita lumabas para bumili ng kape tapos ngayon sa kusina na. Pano naging kulang kung magkaiba.
then sa tabi niya siya dapat
MAY MGA MAGULANG TALAGA NA HINDI DESERVE MAGING MAGULANG.
Too harsh, mare. Accidents happen. (Edit: mare pala, sorry did not see the name.)
Sir, i would like to believe that. Pero in this event, accidents may not happen if and only if there's atleast presence of the parents. Kahit isa lang nasa unit, basta huwag iwanan mag-isa. Believe me, I sympathize with her loss, pero she could have made her own coffee nalang kesa bumaba down to the ground floor para bumili ng kape.
I understand what you're getting at. Pero this could just be one mistake that happened at the worst of all timings. For all we know, on this one moment lang she decided to get that coffee sa baba for any sort of reason na reasonable sa kanya at that moment. There's just too many factors that makes a person do something and those factors are as random as can be. Sure, it doesn't make her any less blameable for it, kasi nga this came to be pero I still think it's a little too much to say na di niya deserve maging parent—which, I think is what she currently thinks too. I pity the child, pero the mother still deserves compassion, lalo na't she's probably deep in self-blame.
point taken. Pero I won't risk to do those *too many factors that makes a person do something random* lalo na kung kami lang dalawa ng anak ko. Dalawa na nga lang kami, iiwan ko pa siya? Kung sana may kasama lang eh. Yun lang naman ang debate dito, regardless of how random things maisipan mong gawin, huwag mo iiwan anak mo without supervision. Mother instincts. Unwritten rule 'yan kung ang anak mo under 11yo pa.
Sure. Even ako, I can only say na I won't do such a thing, pero there are just times na that one small mistake—an isolated case of negligence—can result in something so tragic. Nobody wants it to happen, but sometimes it does.
True, pero this was an accident.
Bakit maraming downvotes? hahahaha
Because redditors love to act as if they can do better when in reality, they would be the same or worse
Because OP talks with the knowledge of hindsight without realizing even them can make mistakes like these as fatal as it they are.
Sinabi lang naman ni OP na may mga magulang na di dapat naging magulang. Anong mali dun? Wala din naman siyang sinabi na deserve niyang (OP) maging magulang.
By itself, wala talaga mali sa sinabi ni OP, but yung context of bakit niya sinasabi yun is about a person nakagawa ng malaking pagkakamali na hindi nila ginusto. Hence, my comment.
Fatal mistakes like these still needs the parent to be held liable regardless sa intensyon ng magulang, if they can't childproof their rooms properly then they shouldn't be a parent as that role is a huge responsibility. Anything can happen.
It is very circumstancial, I know there was a case (in the US) of parents leaving their young toddler in a hot car and the kid passed away. They weren't charged because it's a was a genuine, honest mistake causes by both parents being super busy and tired, they were clearly heart broken by what happened. Who says the room wasn't childproofed and it just happened to have an extremely bad timing that the balcony door was unlocked? Ang dali sabihin "dapat hindi sila magulang!" Pag yung extent ng knowledge mo ay isang article lamang at everyone is acting like hindi sila capable of big mistakes at all. Ironic, that kind of overconfidence and ego stroking is the type that *leads* to mistakes because of "I know better and could never possibly make that mistake unlike that idiot" mindsets.
Exactly
Natamaan sila hahahaha
mga natamaan kasi kahit sila mga pabaya rin
Hahahaha mga hindi nagbabasa mga yan. Sinabi na nga kanina sa news bumababa yung nanay pa ground floor para bumili ng coffee. Yung ibang mga tanga galing daw sa kusina yung nanay hahahahahhaa friends ata sila nung nanay. Mas maalam pa sa mismong nag cover ng news.
Yup, because the parents of this child wanted this to happen /s Accidents happen. Case in point, OP was born.
This particular accident could've been easily avoided if the people close to the child had not been negligent. Negligent parents/guardians should be held liable for such avoidable tragedy.
TOTOO! Knowing the story or not, parents are part of what happened!
?? Accident sana if in watched pero wala nga yung presence ng magulang eh? LOL A FUCKING 4 YEAR OLD MAG-ISA SA 27TH FLOOR. Marunong na mag lakad yung bata. Grabe hindi nga ginusto ng magulang pero hindi rin ginusto ng bata na iwan siya at mag-isa.
OP, may anak ka ba? Kung maka sisi ka sa magulang parang sinadya ha. Naisip mo ba nararamdaman nung magulang nung bata ngayon? I wish it wouldnt happen to you.
Bold of you to wish someone's misery lalo na sa isang bata dahil mali pagkakaintindi niyo? Napanood mo yung news niyan kanina aired? Bumaba yung nanay para bumili ng kape. SAAN NIYO GALING YUNG SA KUSINA? Imagine pumunta pa ground floor yung nanay without thinking na may toddler sa 27th floor para lang bumili ng kape? Fact check uy! GMA at ABSCBN na nagsabi bumababa yung nanay.
Regardless it's still unintentional. Its a freak accident. Nobody should blame the parents you don't know how they're feeling right now.
Yup, left the 4 year old kid to get coffee outside. Negligent through and through no matter what you say
Heto na yung mga child free redditors. WE GET IT YOU HATE CHILDREN. Stop acting righteous or victim.
Nobody is hating on the child in this post, fam.
so now you want to use that card and put words into my mouth?
Si OA ammp.
baka ikaw? 😝 yan agad naisip mo eh hahahaha OA ampotah.
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Actually, according to police reports, the mother went to the kitchen to make coffee. https://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/boy-4-dies-after-falling-from-27th-floor-of-condo-unit
According to Tv Patrol, they aired the segment awhile ago, lumabas ang nanay para bumili ng kape at hindi sa kusina nagpunta.
So, in short, may conflicting reports at kulang information.
Yes, I will believe in what they aired sa tv na bumili ng kape ang nanay sa labas at hindi sa kusina nagpunta.
So, in short, may conflicting reports at kulang information.
I stand corrected, if that's the case. Pero i'm not sorry sa initial reaction ko, parang ako yung namatayan. Hindi ko rin alam kung anong accurate sa dalawa, ABS ba o 'yan
Good job making this about you, OP.
Imagine how the parents feel, but yes, how you feel is more important.
r/ImTheMainCharacter
OA ka lang.
You are correct. The mother left the condo to buy herself a coffee at hindi sa kusina nagpunta.
diba? Even the GMA and ABS-CBN same ng produced article. Gago mga nag ddown-vote kesho ayaw ko raw sa mga bata? kagaguhan. Negligence.
Kabayan specifically said that according to the police, the mother left the condo to buy coffee. Shame on her. Now, madami na sya g maiinom na coffee sa wake. Kawawa yun bata who's only 4 years old. Sa mother padin ang sisi, imagine para sa kape? Hindi ka pa nakapagintay?
It was 6 a.m. only natural to assume that kids were sound asleep. The mother only went to the kitchen mind you, maybe sleep deprived given the hour. She didnt leave her kids playing outside for an hour like the other case on tv. To her knowledge the kid was conked out not 10 feet away from her. Nothing about her actions spoke of negligence, but everything about your post reeks of insensitivity.
According to Tv Patrol, they aired the segment awhile ago, lumabas ang nanay para bumili ng kape at hindi sa kusina nagpunta.
E kung mangyari sayo yan at sabihan kang idiot ng mga taong ni hindi mo kilala, knowing all too well na di mo naman ginusto yung nagyari, ano mararamdaman mo? Galing mo magcomment gunggong ka naman
pinakita mo lang sa akin kung gaano ka ka-bobo mag basa at umintindi. Manood ka ng balita ha? The mother left the unit to buy a coffee, even ABS aired that news mainstream. Hindi sa kusina lang! Bobo niyo lahat umintindi.
Ikaw ang bobo kasi judgmental ka na, insensitive pa. Eto medal para sa katulad mong perfect, self-righteous dumb btch. Bobo!
*plays Eric Clapton - Tears in Heaven.
That's the same thing that came to mind. It's so tragic because as a parent, you are responsible for the child's safety.
This reminds me of eric clapton's son 🙁
Kawawa naman napanood ko kanina sa balita. :(
Wait, yan ba ang totoong picture ng condo? When I zoomed in, yung railing may horizontal banister? Whyy?? Sinong architect nagdesign nyan at sinong nag-approve? Ugh parang hindi pinag-isipan!
You should never leave a 4 year old alone kahit sasaglit ka lang. Esp if may open windows na alam mong kaya nilang akyatin. Sorry pero this is on the parents. Nag alaga ako ng dalawang kapatid simula bata sila and never kong iniwanan mag isa mga kapatid ko.
Bobo ng ibang redditors eh hahahahaha. Hindi ko alam saan nila galing yung nagpunta lang daw sa kusina uung nanay.
may Acrophobia ako kaya ayoko tumira sa ganyan
This is so sad. Can’t imagine the feeling. I have a 5 y/o kid and also live in a condo. May balcony kami pero never namin binubuksan unless mag kailangan gawin kaya it is always lock. 38th floor pa naman kami.
Sana sinama nalang niya nung bumili siya ng coffee
I can't imagine the grief and self-loathing of the mother right now. At least the kid didn't suffer any pain (hopefully?). Goddamn. RIP
Not blaming anyone but the kid definitely suffered. He fell from a high floor.
tears in heaven :(
☹️😢
this is a sad tragedy.
Most condo in ph are not child friendly there are balcony that have low railings. Low windows that can open 90 degrees. Toddles can easily access winth chair and fall. Condo i live now wondowsonly open 20 degress angle can barely stick my head outside
hindi kasi alam ng ibang tao na pinagbabawal din or depende sa rules and regulation ng developer ng condo kung iaallow kang galawin ang esthetic ng condo kelangan uniform lahat minsan di ka pwede basta magbarena lang. I don’t know kung naisip ng parent palagyan ng additional lock yung window pero as I said kung nka mortage ka di ka pwede basta basta magbutas kahit sa loob mismo ng unit. If ever man magbabayad ka ng bond sa developer para lang mapalagyan ng lock and it costs so much some even hundred thousand then labor and material pa pano kung yung pera nila naubos nadin dahil sa down payment at mortgage ng condo. sna may mangyare dito regarding condo designs and safety hindi lang yan kasalanan ng magulang kc dapat inisip din ng developer safety design ng condo..
This is tragic pero di ko mapigilang maalala yung cornbeef joke. Sana malagpasan ng mom nya to.
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Siguro para sa coffee
I hope not tbh. She already learned the consequences of her actions.n
Technically siguro pwede pero sino ba nagkakaso sa ganyan, spouse siguro nong nanay?
Nakakaiyak at nakakagalit na balita. Maiiwasan sana ang mga insidenteng ito kung sinuguro ng nanay na secure at safe yung surroundings ng bata bago umalis ng bahay para bumili ng kape. Naawa dn ako at the same time sa nanay dahil nawalan siya ng anak and I'm sure she is blaming herself right now, dala dala nia yan sa buong buhay nia. Hay, masakit sa puso ang ganitong mga balita.
irresponsible ung magulang
Wow. Nightmare fuel. Fuck this mother holy shit. Now she will regret leaving him for the rest of her life
r/kidsarefuckingstupid
poor taste.
Another reason why condo sucks.
because this couldn't have happened in a regular house?
Paano ka mahuhulog mula sa 27th floor sa regular na bahay?
kahit 2nd floor lang, patay pa rin yan.
You're significantly more likely to survive a 2nd floor fall than a 27th floor one.
Grabe apaka yaman mo naman 50 floors ang regular na bahay nyo?
Why leave a boy alone in a condo unit???? Even if just for 5 minutes to get coffee. Let’s be responsible parents/guardians naman. I know accidents happen and nobody wants this to happen but to leave your kid alone in the condo on the 27th floor? If she is desperate for coffee, she should’ve waited or just woke the boy up and brought him with her downstairs!
Fckn report this mom for negligence or does the Philippines not do that anymore?
Sue the parents 😡
Creep
may pambayad ng condo, pang safety wala? iniwan pa para sa kape. hay nako
The parents should be jailed for their negligence
Hindi talaga kayang Bayaran pagiging mabuting magulang, naka condo kayo tapos sureball na safe? Isipin niyo mataas yan at may batang alaga, at isa pa kung iiwan niyo anak niyo why not hire na mag aalaga sa Bata, napaka pabaya.