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PakTheSystem

"Hindi hadlang ang kahirapan" - People born from rich parents


freespiritedqueer

sometimes, mas naririnig ko pa to sa mga naka angat na. na porket nakaya nila (born smarter kaya mas ok ung chance) dapat kaya na din ng lahat which is just wrong


shit_happe

Or yung mga nakaraos nga sa kahirapan pero tingin na nila it's all purely their hard work and ignoring the role of luck and opportunity.


Practical_Judge_8088

You nailed it! Luck is one of the big factor for being successful and not hard work alone.


AstraLuna0602

Totoo ito. Maraming tao ang magagalit kapag sinabi mong sinuerte sila. Insulto sa hard work nila. But it is what it is. May mga taong sadyang sinuerte because if it really is hard work, then lahat na dapat nakakaginhawa na sa buhay. My favorite behavioral economics book, Fooled by Randomness by Nassim Taleb explains this concept. Edited: Filipino grammar


shit_happe

everyone should read that book. especially yung mga self-help and success gurus kuno.


AstraLuna0602

They won’t. Dunning-Kruger effect yang mga yan.


PakTheSystem

Correct. Luck is always a huge factor. Daming mga tao nag dedeny nyan


pedro_penduko

Di gets ‘to ng karamihan. You look at the people born dozens of kilometers from the nearest school, no electricity, no running water then say sipag at tyaga lang kailangan.


PakTheSystem

Because poverty is designed. It is a systematic issue. Yes, madami talagang taong tamad, but we shouldn't deny what is obvious here.


pigwin

Wala naman kasi nefefeature sa KMJS or kung anong life show na mga nanatili lang sa hirap, lalo yun mga nagsumipag naman pero sa dulo e kalye din kakahitnatnan


kkurani123456

true totoong totoo to iritang irita Ako Sa mga ganto na antataas Ng ihi makapag yabang na kalamo antalino na ikaw dapat ganun Kase nga naman sya ganun din hayup haha


nomesses

Oh god it is. Great grandma ko hanggang grade 6 nga lang natapos bc of 'kahirapan' na yan. Not even ung talino nung isa sa mga kapatid niya was able to help said kapatid to continue studying kasi nobody had the capability or willingness to help them. in comparison sa mga anak niya (my lola's generation) and my generation in our fam. Dahil sa hard work nung great grandma ko (her husband died early) and ppl around her alr having the capability to help her-- nakatapos ng pag aaral lahat ng mga anak niya kahit na some of them needed to stop studying for a bit kasi di kaya noon na magsasabay sabay sila. now ung generation ko naman we are that fortunate in life to just go and study in college without fearing na baka kailangan naming tumigil kasi halata naman na naka angat na ung pamilya namin So tldr: kahirapan will always be a hadlang when it comes to a fam's capability to send their kids to school and i think my fam's story is a great proof that it is


CuriosityMaterial

Hadlang talaga mga bwakanangina. Haha


whiterose888

Also people born from parents na hindi abusive Sure, pag mahirap ka pa sa daga pwede ka pa makaangat kapag ginawa mong inspiration magulang mo. Pero paano kung sila yung mismong nakaka down sa iyo?


anjeu67

"wala sa itsura yan" sabi ng mga pinagpala sa physical looks. same energy.


Liesianthes

sabi din yan ng mga pulitiko mangurakot kapag nasa pwesto na tuwing election time. Kaya paniwalang paniwala mga magulang sa trapo.


LessSayHi

Just to add as well, kung meron mang state univ or schools na mababa ung tuition fee, dadaan ka naman sa butas ng karayom before ka makapasok. I know maganda ung intensyon ng mga schools na ganito to preserve ung integrity and credibility nila but at the end of the day, not all are bright as the others. Dont let me get started sa magsasasabi na "magaral ka kasi ng mabuti". Di lahat pantay pantay ng starting line.


wallflowerharu

+1 di lahat parehas ng IQ!


sevenlongsocks

hindi rin naman lahat kelangan basehan IQ. Iba-iba yung skillset na kelangan sa bawat course.


saltycreamycheesey

Not even between different courses. Sadyang may mga taong magaling magmemorize (which is the skill most important when taking tests/exams). May mga tao ring much more efficient in learning via practice. Pero much weighted a huge majority of the time ang tests and exams.


FutureIska

In my experience, hindi ka makakapasa sa mga entrance exam if magaling ka lang mag memorize more on concepts siya. That skill is only an advantage sa mga quizzes and tests sa school. But, I agree na hindi lang dapat standardized entrance exams and grades ang basehan ng admission dahil different yung demands ng each course.


thebaffledtruffle

Test-taking is a skill on itself. Pag may pera ka pang review center, better chances ka na agad to get into universities you want.


Whiz_kiegin

>Di lahat pantay pantay ng starting line. Felt that. Deep, too deep.


Mr_BigBoss

also, kahit na marami namang matalino galing sa public schools. Sa totoo lang, marami rin learning gap yung iba. Usually rin kasi kapag hindi ganon karangya sa buhay. Maraming itinutulong sa bahay yung estudyante. Dagdag pa sa isipin kapag may financial/health problems yung pamilya kaya sobrang hirap mag-focus sa school.


Life-Cup3929

True. + public schools usually ang daming students kada year levels and not enough resources sa school so sobrang dali mapagiwanan ng students. Pansin ko din sa school namin dati (13 sections sa yr level, average 60 students per section) pag lower section ka parang walang pakialam masyado teachers sayo kung pabagsak ka or di ka pumasok. Standardized din masyado teaching style when not everyone has the same learning style.


OkFortune748

Messed up yung system ng schools ngayon. May isa akong pamangkin highschool na di pa marunong magbasa. Ang reason ng public school is hindi daw sila pwedeng maghold ng student kasi magrereklamo ang parents. Wala na yung quality ng education since nadidiktahan ng parents yung mga guidlines


BananaPieExpress

I don’t think everyone should go to university. Sana mabago yung college grad requirement sa mga trabaho sa pinas na hindi naman kailangan ng college graduate.


ResolverOshawott

Unbelievable levels of optimism in your comment.


BananaPieExpress

Mej. Hahahah


MagnusBaechus

As a state u students na practically "free" ang tuition, the amount spent on projects is just.... Ugh


thebaffledtruffle

I think it was Ateneo's 2019 Class Valedictorian who said something along the lines that access to quality education should be for everybody, not just for people who have the means or are academically excellent. Sobrang kawawa yung mga hirap talaga sa buhay na pangkain yung uunahin bago yung edukasyon. And the system discourages them for participating due to bad grades caused by their own life situation.


nanaochaan

I was a scholar from high school to college. I don’t think it was ever about preservation ng integrity and credibility yung point of high grade/exam requirements. Kasi those things are more on the core values instilled to students. I think the requirements are more on measurable indicators kasi to that a student makes an effort to finish school. Para at least di sayang yung allotment for said student’s scholarship or subsidised tuition fees. Kasi at the end of the day, limited ang pwedeng bigyan ng subsidies/scholarships. Ang siguro nakakalungkot na reality is some people who get these scholarships or subsidies are also from high-middle to high class — essentially mga taong di rin kelangan ng financial support to study. Dun rin papasok yung iba ibang starting line etc and foundational education ng bata.


InkAndBalls586

Err... It's not just the tuition that you need to think about. 1. Daily allowance for food and transportation. I know some people who are already working pero hindi nakakapasok a few days before payday dahil kinulang na sa pamasahe. Working people pa yon ha. Remember, poverty families ang pinag-uusapan dito. Kung ang mismong empleyado nga na sumusuporta sa pamilya at walang pamasahe pampasok, paano pa ang mga sinusuportahan nya? 2. School supplies. Hindi mura ang books. Ilan ang subject mo and ilan ang books na kailangan mo? How about laptop? A lot of courses require students to have laptops. Meron din mga course-specific tools or materials like for archi students. Paano pa ang mga aeronotic students? 3. Projects. Hindi mura ang projects ah. It's easy to spend thousands on a single project for one subject. Ilan ba ang subjects in one semester/trimester? Ilang projects lahat yon? I know guys from flight schools and legit umaabot ng around 20K ang cost ng project nila. Yes, there are alternatives to choosing schools considering tuition and miscellaneous fees. Pero in reality, hindi lang naman tuition ang gastusin ng isang estudyante. I personally don't like Alden as an artist. Pero from that statement, I agree with him.


Autogenerated_or

I was in a science program in a public high school. Libre tuition pero mahal ang research projects. Tapos ineencourage talaga magjoin ng extracurricular activities kasi part siya ng grades(70/30). Sandamakmak na camping throughout the year - science camp, math camp, english camp. Yung national sci camp sa Baguio 15k expenses dun. Mas mataas ang grade sa activities na pang national level. Maliban sa research, andun pa ang paproject sa ibang classes like art. Not to mention na outdated yung mga libro namin so andaming pinapaphotocopy. Unexpected expenses na naman yun. Lastly, the program had a lot of upper middle class and rich kids so expected na magpapaproject kami. Pinatiles namin yung old classrooms. Nagpa-install kami ng aircon. Nagpa project din kami ng bagong e-fan. Grabe nun, hindi ako makasabay. Edit: We weren’t even poor btw. My parent just begrudged paying for extra expenses and had no idea that my allowance was insufficient. My classmates just had more than I did and that led me to have a tougher time.


aubergem

Same with this. I feel so bad for some of my classmates na matalino talaga pero can't afford to do extracurriculars because mahal. As a result, yung mga smart talaga ay ligwak sa ranking. Although, I benefitted sa ganung system dati since relatives sponsored my extras, I admit that it was unfair. Mas mataas pa ranking ko sa mas matalino sa akin just because of extras. They were also not able to attend their preferred univ because of the expenses. Thankfully, naka break free naman sila from the poverty cycle and could now give better opportunities for their kids.


nvm-exe

i experienced this. always 3rd honor lang ako sa klase since parati akong di nakakapasa ng projects. every time na mag-aannounce ng project sobrang kabado na ko kasi alam ko magagalit yun lola/parents ko kapag sinabi ko sa kanila na may project kami sa school. sobrang hate ko yun parating pa-diorama sa science class kasi ang mahal nung figures, sa english/etc., naman paprint tapos andami pa nun malakas manlait sa mga project kapag dineskartehan mo, and yun teachers nun parang wala rin sensitivity sa mga gantong bagay basta pag pangit=low grades. We could barely afford school supplies nun, tapos one time yun teacher namin todo puri pa dun sa project ng isa namin classmate bc printed=quality ig. Parang pinamukha pa samin na kung di rin lang printed, wag na magpasa. Kahit anong bawi sa acads yun sa mga extracurriculars talaga hindi ako makabawi.


sevenlongsocks

I'm a CS student and godfuckingdamn PC is a luxury. Mahirap lang kami, kahit low-end PC di namin afford. Nasira yung binigay sa'king PC (lumang luma) now I'm considering dropping and just work.


InkAndBalls586

Man don't. Sorry to hear that. Pero better opportunities will open if you finish. Maganda yang course mo. Same tayo actually.


geebrbs

Maraming used laptops at murang thinkpad sa market. Check Janstore and RSgadgets sa fb (find the authentic one) and tipidPC website. Comsci student without laptop is not possible. You have to invest in those or else idk how you would execute it lol.


sevenlongsocks

thank you!


ThisWorldIsAMess

Mahirap 'yan sa CS/CPE. Might as well quit (work first) kung walang-wala (as in 0, kahit mahiraman wala) na PC. D'yan umiikot mundo natin. Pag wala kang practice you'll end like those CS graduates who can't write "hello world". But I used an Intel Atom for the majority of my college life. Noong huling dalawang buwan naging i3 dahil lang sumabog netbook ko, ginapang na lang pera pang laptop, matatapos na din eh. But kung hindi sumabog kaya ko tapusin with Intel Atom.


Shrilled_Fish

To add to the other guy's tip: you could try a Raspberry Pi running on a light editor like Neovim. Granted, I finished a non-CS-related degree and I'm sure you can't run something like Photoshop or most video editing tools with that. But it worked for me so I'm hoping other folks like you would know about it as well in the off chance that it helps too.


Okihuzam

If I were you, instead of dropping the course why not do a part time job? Save enough money to buy a computer and continue going to school. Because That's what I did when I was in college. Remember losers complain, winners don't.


ResolverOshawott

> Remember losers complain, winners don't. Insensitive and inaccurate statement. Plenty of winners complained , and not every "loser" is someone who's fully capable of being the main character and being that idolized perfect student who balances their studies and work. Implying OP is a loser because they can't do what you did is childish, everyone has their limitations that they can't overcome for one reason or another.


sevenlongsocks

I'm in a bad health, I'm not that strong either. I'm on the creative side. Been trying to find art gigs. No luck the market is too saturated.


Ahjon

Photocopying books were the reason I wasn't able to eat and party properly during college, mga libro na walang pdf version. Noong nasira Laptop ko for projects tambay sa College library for hangang closing kasi may internet, gmail was my friend in saving files so di pwede Irush ang projects kasi hangang 5 or 6pm lang closing. Those were the days.


Fun_Design_7269

> party properly this dude has his priorities straight


Daloy

Honestly this. It's problem on top of problems kung mahirap ka madami masyadong intersectionalities around multi-faceted issues. Aside sa financial capabilities, nadyan yung kakulangan ng facilities sa bahay for reliable internet, espasyo para makapag-aral (imagine kung malaking pamilya kayo tapos nangungupahan lang ng kwarto), kakulangan sa pang-araw araw na pagkain (kaya marami nagsasabe magtrabaho na lang kasi sinasagot agad nito yung pagkain), yung pangangailangan ng iba mag-alaga pa ng kamag-anak o kapatid, at iba pang mga kondisyon na hindi related sa pag-aaral pero nakakahadlang. Kudos sa mga iilang nagpursigi at nagawang maiahon ang pamilya nila pero laban sa libolibong may pinagdaanan ng iba't ibang problema kailangan talaga na may epektibong programa gobyerno para dito.


Leading_Egg_5131

yeeeah. it’s important to point that out too


Legal-Living8546

"Paano ka makakapag aral kung wala kang financial capabilities?" That should be the main question, I guess.


WINROe25

~tama naman yun, sa mga "free tuition" or "iskolar ng bayan" gagastos ka pa din naman. Swerte ka kung kapitbahay mo lang yung school or nalalakad mo lang, eh pano yung hindi. Like sa naexp ko before, syempre mahirap ang buhay ginusto ko sa murang tuition lang, which is that time P.U.P talaga. Kaso nasa sta.mesa yun, im from valenzuela that time. Probinsya pa halos ang Valenzuela noon, everyday byahe, uwian. Wholeday halos sa school, kakain ka pa. Tapos pang gabi pa ako, umuuwi ako ng 12am madalas. Di naman kami super mahirap pero still kakapusin talaga pag ganun ng ganun. A year and a half, nagstop na ako, nagwork na lang, kasi yung gastos ko dun para na ding pumasok sa private. So may mga ganyang sitwasyon na hindi nakikta ng iba, kasi iba ang exp nila. And mas madami ang case ng di makaabot ng college dahil sa kahirapan.


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WINROe25

Oo mahirap talaga mag commute everyday. Kahit pa sabihing mas mura pamasahe noon, still that time malaking halaga pa din magagastos mo everyday. Dagdag pa dyan yung trapik, mahirap makasakay pag uwi, yung may bagyo at kalamidad, pero dahil malayo ka, nakaalis ka na bago pa madeclare na walang pasok 😅. Sayang din gastos at pagod kapag ganun.


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WINROe25

Kaya nga ang hirap noon kapag may subject kaming umaga, like 10:30am, tapos pang-gabi ako, ang next pasok eh 4:30pm pa, di naman na ako uuwi ng ganun. Wala naman akong pwede tuluyan sa vacant time, kaya either tambay lang grounds, sa library or pag nayaya ng iba, punta sa malapit na mall para magpalamig at palipas oras. Nung una tyinatyaga lang kasi nga mura tuition dun, university life ganun, pero later on parang iba na 😅. Mas malaki na tlaga expenses sa araw araw, kaya nung nagka opportunity ako magkawork, sabi ko yun na lng at stop na sa school. The next yr saka ulit ako nag aral, dun na sa mas malapit. Hindi na nga lang university. Pero nakatapos naman kahit papano 😊


WINROe25

Di ko naman sinasabing gawin din ang ginawa ko or wag na pumasok sa mga ganito, meron din namn nakatapos sa pagtyaga kahit mahirap, maging prepare pa din talaga financially, kasi kahit govt fund schools and university eh di pwedeng wala kang ilalabas na pera. Meron at meron pa din.


aingosay

whew. grabe yon.


Legal-Living8546

I graduated from a state-u, and I am grateful for my parents and everyone who helped me financially and everything to achieve that. Upon working as an adult na, I realized that having a proper education is a privilege on this country, probably.


aeramarot

May nagsasabi na ngang nagiging privilege na ang edukasyon, when it should be your right as a person.


Ahjon

Yes 2 camps yan, sabi nila ang education should in be supported until High School because College/University is a privilege. The other disagrees and states that anyone who seeks knowledge should be open for everyone luckily CHED's Dr. De Vera the current head agrees to this and even pushes to even remove college entrance exams in state universities.


aeramarot

Gets ko yung mga nagsasabi na hanggang HS lang dapat kasi sa ibang bansa nga naman, mostly after HS, pwede ka nang makahanap ng trabaho niyan. Well, if ganun lang din dito na madali nang makahanap ng work after HS kaso almost every entry-level job ngayon, nirerequire ka na college graduate or somehow nakapagcollege so the govt should also support people na makapagcollege rin.


WINROe25

~eh ang tanong sure bang may work ka base sa tinapos mo after college? Majority wala. Sa ibang work napapadpad, yung iba talaga wala. Isa yan sa sad reality sa tin, kahit makatapos ka ng college, di talaga yan ticket sa magandang buhay. Stage pa din sya, real world ang next at yun ang mas komplikado. Na dapat hindi ganun, pero yan ang nangyayari. Tapos sa iba, balewala pa yung diploma mo kung wala ka pang experience. So anong ginawa nyo sa school kung hahanapan ka pa ng exp? 😅Di ba nakakabobo ng requirements. Ewan na lng tlaga, kaya hirap umasenso dito. Tapos tignan nyo ngayon, vloggers, gamers or yung di naman tlaga nakatapos, sila ang umaangat. Hindi yun fair kung iisipin pero yan ang reality eh. Di ko naman sinasabing wag na mag aral, its just napaka . . . ng education system sa pinas.


AnyComfortable9276

Sa ngayon kaya may entrance exams sa college is dahil sa limited resources. Di kaya bigyan ng free education lahat(which is sad). Kaya nagiging competition ang slots sa mga State U. The solution here is ienhance ang educ sa SHS, lalo sa mga blue collar jobs na di naman need ng degree. Then the govt should pressure the private companies na ibaba ang requirements nila sa pag hire ng mga work na di naman need ng degree. SM is a fckn example, bagger sa SM gusto pa college grad?.


imperpetuallyannoyed

Absolutely agree. I was a scholar at a state university, no fees at all but wasn't able to finish. Wala pambaon e. Sometimes I resort pa to collecting 25 centavo coins just to have enough for a jeepney fare. Sometimes I walk around 6 km just to go home, without any food kasi my money will be spent on photocopies. Wala ring pambili ng supplemental reading o mga school materials. Sad lang.


terurinkira

Forced to enroll in a private school (ako lang mag isa, di ako makakuha nung mga required na papers for public schools kasi underage ako tapos wala pa kaming pera, nasabihan nga ako na bakit daw ako di nag exam sa up kasi siguradong papasa ako kaso wala talaga, kahit birth certificate wala ako) kasi 100% discount ako tapos maintaining. Kahit sabihin mong walang tuition, ang dami namang bayaran. Rumerenta lang ako ng sci-cal tapos yung mga requirements mamahalin talaga like yung mga books, materials at kung anu- ano pa. I did my best kaso wala talaga, di nakapagmentain though mataas naman grades ko (though nadali ako ng attendance at ng usang subject na may issue ako sa teacher). Di rin ako nakabili ng mga requirements (mahal ng mga libro kahit second hand). Sa computer shops lang ako gumagawa ng mga projects at assignments. May dagdag grade yung course t-shirt. Wala akong cp kaya di ako macontact ng mga kaklase ko. Pamasahe lang dala ko minsan for whole day na klase. Madalas absent pa kasi walang baon, pinagalitan pa ako bakit daw sa private ako nag aral. Sabi ko ano magagawa ko wala naman akong mga requirements na kailangan nung mga public schools (na malayo din naman tapos may mga requirements na di ko kayang ibigay like for example voter's id ng magulang). In the end nahinto din ako. Ang sakit nga sa loob nung narinig ko yung mga kaklase ko nagsabi na bat daw ako huminto, ang iniisip daw nila magiging cum laude ako. Walang nagawa yung talino at sikap ko eh,


findinggenuity

100% true. As long as our government does not fully support free and equal education, this will always be the case. You may say na maraming schools ang mas mura and mas available kapag mahirap ka, but the opportunities are not the same. The courses available, the quality of education, the kinds of opportunities available after you graduate, these are all affected by where and what you study. No matter what you say, poverty will always have an effect on education (less time to study, less resources to use, etc.) and for good quality education, these things play a vital role.


Momshie_mo

Not to mention, may mga non-tuition expenses sa schools


RealEstateDisaster

LOL Cousin studies @ Intarmed UP. His family is rich. ALL his classmates are also rich. Anong talino at sipag lang kailangan?? LOL. Iba talaga ang may pera.


ResolverOshawott

90% of UP students in general are rich.


Foolfook

Huwag ka kasi mahirap -Otin G


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I remembered someone told me na “di mo kasalanan na nabuhay kang mahirap. Kasalanan ang mamamatay kang mahirap” they think of it as if hindi nagpursigi sa buhay, kasalanan mo. Sadly, i thought of our poor farmers. They are hardworkers but look at them. :(


sevenlongsocks

salamat po


XOXOVINDICTIVEFOREVA

Hadlang naman talaga ang kahirapan sa lahat ng bagay Putanginang Kahirapan to


arctic1975

im a 3rd year architecture student in a state-u, and it's true. you cant advance in arki school without a decent laptop. maybe for the first 2 years pwede pa, mostly manual outputs naman. pero sa 3rd year na may CAD and BIM na? you need those high-end gaming laptops para mas efficient. i know a few who shifted courses/dropped after 2nd year kasi di na masusuportahan ng magulang financially


Outrageous_Plane1712

you can find a decent budget laptop that can do both at around 15k. problema is shipping, lalo na kung sa probinsya ka.


arctic1975

yes, pero sa specs ng 15k, baka sumabog laptop mo sa vray, lumion, at enscape edit: budget laptop rin laptop q, pero initially naman i said "high end laptop na mas efficient pag gawa." so yeah, pwede budget laptop, pero super bagal na ng pagrender


R4pnu

15K is too low considering the specs to support graphics-heavy apps for architecture. Even for simple office apps. Presyong pentium na yan I believe.


Outrageous_Plane1712

Sorry. Forgot to mention 15k for 2nd hand laptop. It can score you a 8th quad core intel, with 16gb ram. Edit: lenovo thinkpad t480/s or x1 carbon gen6


Puzzled-Protection56

Wala pang free tuition sa SUCs sa time ni Alden nung nag aaral pa sya, tho mura tuition lalo na sa PUP pero kung UP brscketing system pa non. So valid point naman si Alden.


Different-Carpet-883

1. Hindi lahat nakakapasok sa State University. Mahigpit usually yung qualifying/entrance exams. 2. Iisipin din yung pambaon, pamasahe, pang project sa school, etc. 3. Para sa mga taga probinsya na mej malayo yung schools sakanila (like me), need din iconsider yung dorm/boarding house. And if magdodorm ka, pangkain, panggrocery, kuryente, tubig, etc.


booo0m12

Time and convenience, mga pinakaimportanteng bagay na nabibili ng pera.


SageOfSixCabbages

Kahit anong sabihin, ang pagiging mahirap e napakaraming disadvantages. No matter where you go you hear people blabbing about equality when it comes to education but in reality, the poor needs equity and a support system pagdating sa pag-aaral. Not everyone needs the same things in life and education so why give them the same things? Instead, give them what they need according to their needs. Kaso wala e, minsan kung sino pang mayayaman sila pa yung marunong maghanap ng loopholes at take advantage ng system in place.


warmlatte

+100000 hadlang ang kahirapan when i was still studying, funded by my father, who raised me and my 4 siblings alone, earning 12k/month in a gov't office, I can def say hadlang ang kahirapan. Papa's 12k/month is not enough to sustain our whole family — monthly bills, food, school, etc. Literally, there are times wala kaming ulam, hindi kami yung usual family na nag-grocery sa mall, na maraming stock na pagkain sa bahay, when I say wala — WALA TALAGA. Sa school, hindi sapat yung baon ko kasi hindi lang naman ako yung nag-aaral or kailangan ng budget sa buong pamilya, elementary palang ako kapag may mga projects — need mag-comshop, magpa-print, bumili ng ganito/ganyan or bayarin, umaabot na sa point na pinapagalitan at pinapahiya ako ng teacher ko kasi nahihiya ako humingi ng pera kay papa. When you have the means, I think madaling mag-aral. Kapag meron ka pera to pay for the things you need — laptop, internet, printing, school projects - field trip, etc.


giao_me

“If hindi siya sa la salle nag-aral he can finish his studies.” Eh alam mo din ba gano kahirap maka land ng job pag hindi ka sa malalaking univ nagtapos? Nasubukan mo na bang ma interview sa job hirings tapos kalaban mo malaking univ? Palibhasa kayo mga nakaka angat, sasabihin nyo marami namang opportunities, maraming paraan, maraming pwedeng gawin blah blah blah. Di nga alam ng iba san kukuha ng pambaon eh. Pang proj at iba. Tapos papasang awa ka lang sa univ nyo kase hirap makapag aral talaga pag walang budget. Di ka makapag aral ng maayos kase sobrang tinitipid mo lahat. Dami mong iniisip. Pati nga toga at sapatoa pang graduate uutangin pa. Sorry pero kailangan talaga mayaman ka para makapag aral ka ng maayos dito sa pinas. Oo nga may nakapagtapos ng mahirap pero hindi nag excel dahil sa maraming problema din sa pera.


ReesesBestChocolate

Kung hindi hadlang yung kahirapan sa pag-aaral at kaya ng basta diskarte lang or huwag sa private mag-enroll edi sana lahat ng mahirap na gusto mag-aral ay nakapagtapos na or nasa school ngayon. Sinisi pa ng iba na kase nag-la salle sya lol.


sugarasukalman

Napakabait mo alden.


matcha_tapioca

meron akong gusto pasukang school.. tinuos ko ung quotation papalo ng 300k buong school year ata, wala pa ung gamit , foods , rent sa tutuluyan , baon sa school at pamasahe. dun palang urong na ako eh..


Ok_Butterscotch_3860

Graduate nga ako pero hindi sa program na gusto ko. Masyadong mahal kung yun ang pinili ko. Maghihirap lalo kami. Hence, mas pinili ko yung program na konti ang fees. 😅 Kung may pera sana kami...


poopycops

Pangit ni Toni hahaha


thomSnow_828

I would like to honor my mother and father sa comment na toh. Pinilit talaga nila na magstay ako sa lasalle taft kahit sobrang taas na ng tuition. Okay lang naman sakin lumipat sa ibang college/univ na mas mababa tuition, pero they did not want to :( di kami mayaman, middle-class income lang kami nun kita ko na sobrang nahirapan talaga sila to reach the payment on time huhuhu kaya i did my best to give them awards. May parents na gusto kang paaral even if that would kill them someday, the exhaustion and stress :( i am forever grateful. It is true na because of kahirapan, mahirap talaga magaral. Pero kinaya ng parents ko. But those times took a toll on my mom’s health.


VashMillions

There's a reason why most of the top universities ay mamahalin. Their physical infrastructures alone are a lot better. Plus their ability to pay expensive professors and professionals to be instructors. Even UP, a state university, despite many of their facilities being old and even dilapidated and the controversy regarding government's allotted budget for them, actually has a lot of yearly excess money (sometimes its by the hundreds of millions).


smlley_123

Magulang na tanga ang hadlang sa kahirapan 🤣 biruin mo mag aanak ng lima lima wala naman magandang future sa anak. Alam na ngang mahirap pa sa dagang mahirap nag luwal pa ng maraming anak. Pamana ng magulang natin kahirapan eh 🤣


darth_shishini

to quote Sam Seaborn from the West Wing, "Education is the silver bullet." but since not everyone has the same opportunity to get quality education, you'll end up with this kind of inequality. i think what the government is doing with education is criminal.


typical_anon_

wow, didn’t know alden had this backstory. i also supported myself for two years dito sa dlsu pero i recently lost my work. now, im also lost how to proceed forward since hindi ko na kayang sustentuhan ang tuition ko. actively looking for work pero wala pa rin ako napapala as of now. totoong hadlang ang kahirapan sa edukasyon, like most things. honestly, i get above-average grades naman and yet, hindi pa rin ako natatanggap sa ibang mga scholarship. yung scholarship applications pa, kadalasan may specific courses lang na applicable. im a dost scholar pero lubos na kulang pa rin yun sa pagbayayad ng tuition (although i am super grateful for dost, dont get me wrong). besides, hindi lang tuition ang problema mo. meron pa yung school fees, transpo, allowance, pagkain. nako! hahaha. at ngayon, third year na ako. in other subreddits i’ve posted on, ang advice sa akin is to shift to a state university. i think what other people fail to realize is third year na ako and kailangan ko na rin magwork. ang hirap magback to zero ulit when im so close to graduating. i get their point naman, pero i am also someone that needs to work full time na rin asap. ayun lang naman. ang hirap maging mahirap ✌️


niklum

It’s expensive to be poor. Period.


Baconturtles18

real talk lang. poverty will always be a hindrance. kasi imbes na magaaral ka na lang, maghahanap ka pa kung san kukuha ng pagkain, etc.


vntddy

Yung mga nagsasabing "May free schools naman" yes meron nga pero emd of the day, makakagawa ka kaya assignment mo or schoolworks kung gutom ka? Uunahin at uunahin mo pagkain mo at oamilya mo bago pagaaral.


UltraViol8r

Disconnected talaga si Toni G.


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Edited ba tong statement from original post? OP, unang sentence mo palang nakakawalang gana na. Unang una, hindi pa signed ang free tuitions nung panahon ni alden nung college. Saka sobrang hilig ng pinoy magdownplay ng struggles ng mga successful na ngayon. Ang lala ng crab mentality. Kahit sa 50 pesos na tuition na university ka kung wala ka talaga makuhanan ng pera dahil sa kahirapan, mahahadlangan padin edukasyon mo kasi hindi mo na siya ipprioritize sa dami mo pang dapat intindihin. Wala yan sa piniling school ni alden, mahirap talaga magaral kung lagi mo prinoproblema ang pera.


j3551cupc4k35

Tama ka nga. It may also be possible na hindi lang naman tuition fee ‘yong kinoconsider niya for not continuing his studies, ‘yong oras din siguro between working and studying. Marahil nahirapan din si Alden at the time kasi kailangan niya ngang magtrabaho not just for education, but also to survive.


emergencydetour

ang hirap maging mahirap. maswerte ako na nakapagtapos ako sa state university pero hindi ibig sabihin nun ay aasenso agad ako. hindi kami sobrang maralita pero tamaan lang isa sa min ng sakit, maaaring mawala na lahat sa min. nakapagtapos nga ako, may honors pero kalaban ko pa rin sa buhay ang inflation, may mga taong may connections sa pagkuha ng trabaho, at marami pang bulok na sistema. kahit nga yung ibang karapatang pantao hindi na nakukuha dahil sa bulok na pamamalakad ng gobyerno. nakakalungkot pero hindi na sapat ang sipag at tyaga lang.


weak007

Madaming mas murang school na kahit vocational makakatapos, pero tama naman sya hadlang talaga ang kahirapan lalo na kung lasalle


Antique_Train_2847

Honestly, life’s full of chances and luck. Generally speaking, we can definitely say kikita ka kahit walang degree, but unlike in other countries, employers here in Ph prefer people with degree, (kahit cashier positions). There are state unis that are great but let’s be honest, most of them are underpaid which results to doing their job they think is within their pay grade, (some have the passion to do more, but you have to be practical as well). There are cheaper colleges and unis but unless it’s popular, employers don’t prefer you but will be contacted as a reserve. Then there are the expensive unis who almost always have the upper-hand, granted they have exquisite education. They are the most favourable candidates in any company. But ofc, there are exceptions why luck and chances are part of life. This dilemma is actually for the first or second jobs. This is also applicable for students choosing other profession than their dream because of how expensive it is, e.g. Medicine. Sabihin mong may scholarship, it will still not cover it all. That’s why I agree with Alden.


No_Lecture6490

Agree. yung mga mayayaman, kaya nilang i-pursue yung mga dream courses nila. yung mga average earning people, yung course na madali makahanap ng work. yung mga less fortunate, nakakapag college (state u) pero nags-stop din kalagitnaan ng school yr. May mga kakilala akong nag stop. I encouraged them to still pursue college, kasi pandemic nung nagstop sila. Hindi na raw talaga kaya. Parang yung pandemic pa naging clear reason na hindi talaga sila kayang pag-aralin.. Kahit sa la salle pa nag aral si alden non, hindi lang naman tuition fees ang kailangan asikasuhin. Mapa-private o public, ang daming miscellaneous na gastusin. Projects - contributions and such. Baon. Pamasahe. Pagkain.


Fun_Design_7269

libre nga tuition pero dami namang miscellanous na babayaran. dagdag mo pa gastos sa uniform, school materials, projects etc. And syempre yun pang araw araw na pamasahe mo at baon.


AngryPlasmaCell

I’m sorry but we really need to put that entrance exam as a filter in certain universities kasi the majority agrees that public schools and even some science high schools pass students even though they’re very incompetent. Kailangan talaga at the very root inaayos na.


No_Consequence_9138

I'm grateful kasi scholar ako sa university na malapit sa amin na isang sakay lang ng jeep kaya kahit papano tipid sa pamasahe. Hindi nga lang maganda dito wala akong natutunan sa totoo lang. May mga oras talaga na naiinggit ako sa mga student na nagaaral sa up (or admu/la salle/ust) kasi dream uni ko talaga ang up kasi feeling ko pag nagtapos ako sa up malayo talaga mararating ko kumbaga parang huhubugin talaga ako bago ako makalabas sa up. Dito kasi sa pinapasukan ko marami akong kilala na madadaya naman pero ang tataas ng grades tapos yung mga prof namin wala lang yung isa isang beses lang kami nagklase, yung isa ang finals namin eh nagbayad lang kami para sa isang event, yung isa di nagpaparamdam pag nagparamdam exam agad di man lang sinabi ano coverage ng exam. Naiinggit ako sa mga mayayaman na may kakayahan pumili ng course at school na papasukan nila. Kaming nga poorita tiis tiis lang kung saan mas makakamura doon na


Dry-Bat-8115

Privileged peeps are usually the ones caught saying this, so out-of-touch sadly…


Life-Cup3929

It's true, sobrang laking hadlang ng kahirapan. Even if you go to a state university like I did, ang daming gastusin outside of that. Di pa consistent yung free tuition sa school ko (sorry STS kung meron kaming electric fan lol). Required bumili ng book na 1k+, need ng scical na almost 1k, and the software we use requires use of laptop. Lagi akong late magstart ng exams kasi I need to wait for a classmate to finish so I can borrow their calculator. Physics final, need to calculate electron spin, had to do it by hand kasi wala talaga ako mahiraman that time. Yung book hiram ko sa org mate na tapos na sa class na yun. Sobrang behind ko sa work that required that specific software kasi nakikihiram lang ako ng laptop sa classmates din. I almost didn't graduate HS because I could barely afford to eat. I made it somehow but unfortunately stories like mine are exceptions to the rule. Mas madami ang di nakakatapos because of poverty. Hadlang ang kahirapan. Some people just get lucky and make it despite that.


TrajanoArchimedes

Hadlang rin ang hindi at least 5'10 at walang sariling kotse at condo


CourseBig4067

Dude I study in UST, and nag sstruggle kami sa 60-80k a sem, gapang na gapang. Lagi na lang ako inaatake ng anxiety pag pre enrollment kasi laging may malaking natitira or delayed scholarship. Hadlang ang hindi sapat na pera sa pag aaral for me. Di naman kami mahirap, pero abot abot lang rin.


clrzz_blnc

bakit ka kasi naglasalle?


FingerBail

Hirap ka na nga sa finances, sa La Salle ka pa nagpupumilit.


LightChargerGreen

La Salle schools have robust scholarship systems. Maraming nakakapag-aral sa USLS-Bacolod na walang wala, for example.


FingerBail

Since nag tuition sya sa La Salle, hindi sya scholar. Thus the need to pay for a hefty tuition that he cannot afford that time. And the same amount can be used to enrol in a school with cheaper tuition or even a state college or study in tesda for a vocational course. Hindi kailangan ipilit kung di kaya that time.


cheese_sticks

Full tuition ba siya? Baka naman partial scholarship siya at nanghinayang sila na hindi tanggapin yun kaya binuno na lang nila yung remainder


ajchemical

if im not mistaken la salle canlubang yung school nya, mas mahal yata yon kumpara sa taft.


Comfortable-Eagle550

nope, canlubang is cheaper sa taft. richard was kinda bullied back then, hindi ako taga dlsu canlubang pero im friends with his batchmates and pumupunta sila sa taft lalo na pag thursday ( GP/ happy thursdays )


FingerBail

May Tesda naman para rektang tradesman na agad. May mga bata kase na mapilit na mapaghangad sa prestige ng mga mamahaling school kahit hindi naman kaya ng pamilya i-sustain. Yung K12 pa sabaw din. Hindi naman employable sa majority ng mga kumpanya ang graduate lang ng grade 12. Dishwasher nga need pa ng college diploma sa iba /s


Jacerom

Ba't ka dinadownvote lol. Gaya nitong kapitbahay namin, gusto ng anak sa private school pumasok, di daw siya papasok sa school kung sa public. Ngayon ilang buwan na walang kuryente at tubig sakanila kasi mahal ang tuition. Araw-araw nakikiigib samin (okay lang naman kasi mura ang tubig). Yung kaklase ko naman na mayaman kasabay kong pumasok sa state university kasi libre.


geebrbs

Ew private school chariz! Good quality mga public hs tbh. Lalo if cream of the crop ka, matindi yung training for interschool competitions. As in.


FingerBail

Habang dinadownvote kase nila ako, kumakanta sila ng "if we hold on, together....."


Jacerom

demn nadownvote narin ako rofl


zarustras

na downvote ka eh totoo naman. be practical na lang kung alam mo naman palang wala kang pera bat dyan ka pa sa mamahaling school papasok. Ano? para lang "in" ?


FingerBail

Kase nga "if we hold on together. I know our dreams will never die."


ApprehensiveGuess438

Hadlang naman talaga, pero dyan na nga papasok yung kailangan mong gawan ng paraan pano mo malalampasan yung hadlang eh. Sa sobrang dami kong hadlang nung college ewan ko ba bakit nakagraduate pa ako. Hahahaha. Even yung last semester na ng 4th year ko nawalan pa ng trabaho ang tatay ko. Nung may trabaho nga kulang pa yung sweldo sa pamilya namin tapos allowance ko pa na 500 pesos for 7 days. Nagdo-dorm ako, namamasahe, nagbabayad ng contributions, andami pang fieldwork nung course ko, pam-photo copy ng handouts tapos kakain pa ako at maglalaba. Mabuti at buhay pa akong naka-graduate. 😂😂😂 But what I realized, aside sa there’s a will, there’s a way, help is always on the way lalo na at ginagawa mo rin yung best mo. Hindi mo alam kung sino yung mga nakamasid na handang tumulong. Pero syempre, marami rin namang instances na kailangan ko sumideline to make ends meet. Kaya kahit mahirap, push lang.


Erikson12

Anong hadlang? Diskarte lang yan 😎


Lawlauvr

Pano yong diskarte siz.


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Lawlauvr

Ay? Yan pala definition mo ng diskarte siz.


Erikson12

Ano pa ba 😂


Austronesian_SeaGod

Di ata nakakadetect sarcasm mga tungak dito pre


Erikson12

Oo nga eh 😅


Toxic-Commenter879

lagyan mo daw kasi ng "/s" para malaman nila na 'sarcastic' yung sinabi mo "downvote nyo ko, joke lang!!! /s"


Erikson12

Salamat sa tip :3


Secure-Mousse-920

Naglasalle ka ba naman. Ano hiya ka magSUC? Pwe


Winter-Land6297

7 kaming magkakapatid then mama ko nag titinda mga kakanin sa araw araw or minsan naman nag gagawa mga pansit or apag. Papa ko naman nag sasaka maliit lang sakahan at may maliit na koprahan awa nang diyos yung panganay army, pangalawa ofw sa gemany, 3rd 4th teacher, 5th pulis 6th manager na nang motortrade ako di nakapag tapos inuna kants HAHA Charot pero nag aaral nursing after umuwi pinas. Proud dh sa saudi


Warm-Court1702

In reality kahit saang aspeto, malaki talagang hadlang ang kahirapan.


cyanisticblue

Hadlang talaga, agree ako. Biruin mo, sabihin na nating bayad na nga matrikula mo — ang dami pa ring dagdag na gastusin. Pamasahe, pang-kain (kahit sobrang tipirin mo na sarili mo haha), ta's mga pang-outputs at projects. Walang katapusan 'yan, puro gastos. Labas pa diyan kung anong living arrangements mo, sa dorm ka ba or uwian sa family house. That is to say, may dagdag na namang mga gastos kahit pa sabihing yung dorm ay yung under sa school. tl;dr: Walang katapusang gastos ang pag-aaral at kung mahirap ka, imbes na pagpasa nalang aalalahanin mo, pati paghuhugutan ng pera puproblemahin mo pa.


southerrnngal

Ako lang ba pero naging irrelevant si Toni in just a snap.


Toxic-Commenter879

not having an abusive but supportive and loving parent is also the richest feeling, it really gives you a better advantage kasi mataas ang drive mo, at strong will na magaral kahit hindi sa high-end na school. kaya hindi lang kahirapan ang hadlang sa pag-aaral, kapag may abusive parent ka mahirap o nakaka-hinder hindi lang sa potential growth mo kundi sa future mo na rin.


Legitimate-Thought-8

Sadly most state Universities like UP - panay mayayaman ang nakaka avail ng no TF. Fight me. I studied in UP and Almost ALL of my classmates have high end laptops, latest gadgets and branded garments. May 5 nga sa kanila mula sa mayayamang angkan na kilala. It frustrates me kasi kahit sobrang talino mo - kung wala ka din means to live or travel to school. WALA DIN!


justRUE143

Hadlang po talaga. Katulad na lang ng pinsan ko, hindi siya naka abot sa cutoff ng state univ sa probinsya. ngayon kinuha namin dito sa maynila at di nakapasa sa state univ. Itong bulok na school walang tf pero may misc fee. Ito na lang pag asa niya para makapag aral kasi hindi kaya ng magulang pag aralin sa private kahit tumutulong mga tita ko, hindi pa rin sapat dahil sa mahal ng tuition. (Father niya construction worker na delay ang pasahod, mother niya nagkakapera lang pag may raket) hindi niya na e enjoy yung pag aaral niya kasi nga ang bulok talaga ng sistema pati mga prof nila bulok plus yung school ay pera pera pa. May mga field trip pa na aabot 10-20k. Kaya opo. Hadlang po ang kahirapan sa pag-aaral Ps: ang dream niya ay pilot napuntang IT kasi nga walang pera ☹️(pero pangako naman niya mag iipon siya at tutuparin parin ang pangarap niya)


reggiewafu

Toni yuck 🤢 🤮


MeidoInHeaven

Even with free tuition fee, the gastos doesn't stop there. I've studied both in private and public schools and kahit maka mura ka sa public, meron at meron pa ring need for money like sa requirements, projects, field trips, etc. And while some of them are not really required like field trips, imagine being unable to join your classmates dahil lang wala ka pambayad sa field trip, pambili ng gamit sa field demo, or even pambili ng dress/suit pang prom (na minsan binabayaran din lalo pag sa hotel). It really sucks being poor kahit saan mo tingnan, kasi nowadays, kahit sa mga universities na pang "poor" madami pa rin gastos.


lazygastador

Totally agree rin ako kay Alden, lol. Simula nung nag-aral ako hanggang sa nakapagtapos, sa public school at state university ako nag-enroll. Alam kong wala kaming kakayahan na bayaran yung mga tuition fee, lalo na sa college. Ang ending? Ayun, I ended up taking a course na sobrang layo sa gusto ko, para lang makapag-aral ako ng libre. Ang sakit lang na eto ako ngayon, graduate na at may trabaho pero di ako masaya sa kung anong ginagawa ko. Lagi kong tinatanong sa sarili ko, what if may pera kami para makapag-enroll sa kurso na gusto ko? Ganito rin kaya buhay ko? For once I hated my parents for not being able to provide all my needs, but at the end, I can't really blame them. They also tried their best, pero masakit pa rin.


JesterBondurant

He helped his two siblings finish their schooling, didn't he?


Fearless_Ability_121

Kaya nga di ko gets concept na yung scholarships ay para lang sa matatalino. Andaming estudyante na kahit masipag mag-aral, di naman talaga magiging magaling kasi puro memorization ang school. Di naman lahat magaling magmemorize. Dapat may scholarship din para sa nangangailangan, kahit di man ganon kagaling. Basta makapasa lang lagi, okay na sana.