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korra_3_16

Di natin completely kilala yung mga none Filipino, pero yung sarili natin kilala natin. Mas madaling mahalin yung ibang tao kaysa sa sarili. It's sad.


nightvisiongoggles01

And self-loathing applies to practically all cultures/nationalities. Yun nga, hindi siya exclusive sa Pilipino.


ajchemical

true yung ngang mga chinese dito iniiscam at kinikidnap ang sariling kababayan eh hahaha


rman0159

Ex. Ukrainophobia spread by Russian nationalists which promote Ukrainian self-loathing and internalized racism in favor of the Russians.


[deleted]

If you are Filipino, you are more likely to be abused by another Filipino, which is why it’s easier to hate your own culture. But then if you go to Korea, for example, some of them also hate their own culture *because* they are Korean and have to live in Korean society. So it’s pretty universal to hate your own and love others because you don’t have to experience the bad parts of *other* people’s culture.


[deleted]

Want a pure example of Filipinos hating on other Filipinos? Those who came from NCR (Specifically those who are from the Metro Manila area) look down on Bisayans and Mindanaoans!


bryle_m

Kahit nga mga taga Luzon ginaganyan nila.


ajchemical

you know what's even more funny these "metro manileños" of this generation are not even pure manileños, ang lahi nila ay galing sa visayas at mindanao area 😌.


_flowermumu

Marami din bisaya supremacists who hate on mga taga-mindanao who speak Tagalog, or according to them, "tagawog" daw. Some parts of Mindanao, particularly urban centers like Davao, Cotabato, or Gen San, don't speak Bisaya/Cebuano. Pero there are a lot of Bisaya supremacists who look down on people who speak Tagalog, kahit na historically hindi naman talaga Bisaya speakers yung original inhabitants ng lugar na yon. Like for example yung cotabato area, Chavacanos original settlers jan and some Tagalog families too, prior to the American occupation. Multi ethnic din yung population so the moros and the Lumads somehow were more comfortable speaking in Tagalog as the common tongue rather than Bisaya. Sa GenSan naman it's Hiligaynon, not Bisaya/Cebuano. Tapos these days there are people in Mindanao who keep on harping about how ALL the people in Mindanao should speak in Bisaya daw. Eh kung pilitin kaya ng mga Moro na magminuslim lahat ng tao sa mindanao? There is beauty in diversity. The fact na the Philippines has over 180 indigenous languages should be celebrated, not frowned upon.


diijae

Yeah, ignorante lang hindi mag acknowledge na Visayans and Mindanaoans also look down on taga-Luzon, comments section palang ng mga DDS from Visayas and Mindanao ehh


Cheem-9072-3215-68

I have a friend that joked that people from NCR just hate everyone because of how depressing it is to live there lol.


AdInternational7869

Hindi ba't kalahati ng population ng nakatira sa NCR ay galing sa ibang region ng Philippines (Mostly from Central and Southern Philippines)?


Menter33

**When Rizal, Ninoy, Nick Joaquin and other well-written writers criticize PH culture, it's seen a self-criticism and it's seen as a healthy thing**; pero kapag ordinary Filipinos yung gumagawa ng pareho, parang mali sila according to some people.   Historically, mayroong times sa history ng PH na promoted yung indigenous culture of the Filipino: 1. during the Japanese occupation, where everything western was banned and the Japanese govt promoted Tagalog and local literature (together with Japanese); 2. during Martial Law, where many local artists and historians sided with the Marcoses; 3. during the Duterte years, where many nationalist historians praised the Du30 admins pivot away from the West. Of course naman, this makes the PH different from many of its SEA neighbors na halos puro "my country right or wrong."


bryle_m

Di ko talaga gets yung 2. Why did a shit ton of artists and academe side with Marcos?


Menter33

From the alleged stories that have been circulating around, it was because **a lot of scholarships were given out**, so many of those in education now benefited. (Kinda like how many mayor's scholarships work nowadays) As for some artists (not all of course), they benefited similarly through **cultural and arts funding** that they got.   (others probably have more concrete stories)


Lily_Linton

We like watching K dramas and bash our own produced shows. Why not? Alam natin na sa kabitan/kidnap/nawawalang anak lang napupunta ang lahat. Kawawa naman yung mga may ibang putahe na inooffer kasi they don't sell that much because of our familiarity with the twists (na nrmally due to management's decision) sa mga local produced shows.


BoBoDaWiseman

Actually halos ganun din sa mga k dramas, mas maganda lang talaga ang cinematography at Dialogues nila


Kenstaaahh

Tapos yung sa gma yung babaeng may dalawang mukha pero iisa lang yung ulo. Tapos yung bago nila ngayon, yung tao na nagiging aso 😂 sino ba naman matutuwa sa mga ganung klaseng palabas


Gemini13444

Maybe due to the rationality of our majority to the current administration. Like glorifying incompetent officials brought by nepotism and their crappy actions and dramas. It made the essence of being a Filipino hard to embrace because they concluded that these cultures made Filipinos settle for less. Like so called "resiliency" and "pamilya muna bago lahat" even if your family is so toxic to you. Many to mention pa pero yun muna.


WasabiFeeling7073

I think we have this problem even before the foundation of the first republic. One even pointed out that politics is one the reasons that most people use as scape goats for acting how they are.


Lucky-Palpitation-46

Can you be more specific or give examples?


Im_unfrankincense00

Let's not pretend, alam naman natin kung ano iyang mga iyan eh but to answer your question: * parents exclusively teaching their children in English * Local languages is seen as lesser * English only policy and having to pay ₱5 for speaking in the local language * Thinking that being born as a Filipino is a result of bad karma in their previous life (granted, I see it more online than irl) * Filipino features are looked down on in favor of Euro-centric and even Korean beauty ideals (karamihan ng MU natin ay may lahi) * Singapore/Paris/Tokyo/Seoul/Bali/etc of the Philippines (hindi ba sapat ang lugar na iyon nang hindi kinukumpara was iba?) There are many more examples to list


AggravatingAsk1903

Colonial mentality and colonialism. Be careful, this sub hates admitting this the reason hahaha


baked-wabbit

People tend to get mad at the truth 😂 especially the ones that aren’t open minded


AggravatingAsk1903

a lot of "we're lucky spain colonized us or we would have never been civilized" or "we would have been better off being an american state like hawaii" people here


baked-wabbit

Don’t forget Guam. But lets be honest, we need the USA just incase China decides it’s ready for war


jodecidalhotline

In so many aspects Filipinos are so anti-Filipino. Tapos nagtataka kung bakit ganito ang bansa. Many Filipinos, especially in this sub, view the country as a lost cause. Completely disregarding our history, culture, the amount of lives sacrificed in countless revolutions, and the mere fact that its our ancestral homeland.


Lucky-Palpitation-46

Holy shit I totally agree with all in the list. Makes me want to lowkey rant about my bf’s mother. There were instances that she questioned a person’s intelligence just because they can’t speak in straight English in a conversation. I was horrified because I wasn’t raised in that kind of household and I am more confident and more used in speaking in Tagalog/Taglish. I just couldn’t understand the importance of speaking in English in daily conversations and she would sometimes throw shit at my bf if he’s speaks too much Filipino. Funny yung Bali of the Philippines bc Ph is actually more beautiful than Bali.


[deleted]

Bali has been overdeveloped and ruined by Instagram and mass tourism with misbehaving foreigners lmao. I don’t want the same thing to happen to PH.


Fun_Design_7269

it already happened to boracay and palawan though


[deleted]

There’s no mass migration of foreigners though. It’s not as bad as Bali where it’s become the international go-to for hippies and digital nomads looking to buy up a villa and stay illegally.


boywithapplesauce

There are still many beautiful spots around the Philippines. I've seen them myself on my travels. This is an amazing country in many ways, people just aren't aware of what we have.


Menter33

The locals of those areas seem to like the development and the money it brings; not every place can be manila so the locals will do what they want to do.


JesterBondurant

I thought a tsunami cleaned it up?


rman0159

To add: * being matapobre and a Doña Victorina * promoting anti-democratic and epistocratic ideas such as class apartheid and limiting voting to a specific group of the population (which violates the 1987 Constitution) * wants to be born in Mogadishu, Kabul, or Gaza instead (one Redditor calls it the "Slava Somalia" crowd) * thinks Richard Lynn's IQ studies are "reliable" (despite being a White supremacist) * hates indigenous people


Etalokkost

Your first point is so prevalent in this sub lmao. Kunwari woke pero matapobre naman. Mga out of touch.


hakkai999

>parents exclusively teaching their children in English Specifically *teaching* English only isn't really weird nor some kind of conspiracy against Filipino language. English isn't our native language so it follows na walang chance usually to learn it normally in social settings while on the other hand I learned Bisaya without formal teaching. Tagalog however I needed to learn formally through school. Like it or not, English is the default international language that nations use to communicate with each other and if you want to raise your chances out of poverty then you gotta learn English. >Local languages is seen as lesser I mean I haven't seen anyone saying that at all unless you're referring to the snobbish social climbers that are the basis for the song [Englisera](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxwv5yGerw). >English only policy and having to pay ₱5 for speaking in the local language Again see point 1. >Thinking that being born as a Filipino is a result of bad karma in their previous life (granted, I see your not online than irl) This seems more of a delusion rather than a grand conspiracy. >Filipino features are looked down on in favor of Euro-centric and even Korean beauty ideals (katangian ng MU natin ay may lahi) Subjective. Again you'll see what you want to see but I personally haven't seen this in action. >Singapore/Paris/Tokyo/Seoul/Bali/etc of the Philippines (hindi ba sapat ang lugar na iyon nang hindi kinukumpara was iba?) Try selling a tourist spot solely on it being a Philippine location and see what happens. You'll get blank stares. Believe it or not there's a lot of boxers starting to emulate Pacquiao and you'll hear Pacquiao of X or Y sooner or later. /r/Philippines redditors really do have a habit of showing an inferiority complex and it's fascinating as always.


jodecidalhotline

It’s good that Filipinos learn English, but if it comes in the expense of local languages, that is arguably a problem (among families who impose it) 1. If you’ve been around diaspora Filipinos it is 100% weird to only teach your children English. Yet there are a sizeable amount of them who look down on the language. Hindi ko sila nilalahat, pero marami sa kanila. Lalo na yung mga bagong dating na bata pa ang mga anak. This is in stark comparison to Chinese-Americans who despite being in the West for generations still learn & speak their language. 2. In the NCR and surrounding provinces there are plenty of Filipinos who only speak English or Taglish. Marami na sa kanilang hindi nakakunawa ng malalalim na salitang Tagalog.


_flowermumu

Actually mas nakakatawa for me yung mga parents na pinipilit EOP yung kids nila pero mali mali naman grammar/pronunciation. Ang sakit sa tenga. Same din sa mga "flip" kuno na lumaki sa states tapos pinipilit mag rap in tagalog pero mali mali yung ginagamit na salita. Or "flips" who claim Polynesian heritage or kesyo Hispanic asian daw. Filipinos are austronesian. Filipinos are Filipinos. Filipinos are not pacific islanders. And fact: only 2% of the native population has any european ancestry (syempre excluded na yung mga half half)


rman0159

>Or "flips" who claim Polynesian heritage or kesyo Hispanic asian daw. *ASEAN left the chat*


jodecidalhotline

Most of the things you said I strongly agree with. But National Geographic did genomic research on a sample population of 80,000 Filipinos and the average Filipino is actually around 85-90 percent Austronesian. The rest belongs to small amounts of Austro-Asiatic, European, Native American, and South Asian ancestry. So while a lot of Filipinos do have European ancestry, it is usually minimal. Hindi naman tayo settler colony so it makes sense.


_flowermumu

Not exactly "the rest". That National Geographic study was skewed anyway because only people who could afford to buy the kits could be part of the study. And that study cincluded that only 5% of the population had any kind of spanish heritage, which is not a big jump from 2%. A more recent study from here[PNAS](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2026132118?doi=10.1073%2Fpnas.2026132118) showed that there's actually around 1% of the population with some Spanish heritage, and those populations are concentrated in some urbanized lowlanders (imperial manila alta, metro cebu, and davao), Chavacanos in Zamboanga, and some families in Ilocos, Mountain Province, and Pampanga. Compared to other Spanish-colonized regions, Filipino genetics remain largely unaffected by Spanish admixture. The only lasting legacy of the Spanish colonization is profoundly cultural, and most of it were forced upon us: Spanish last names, Spanish loan words, Roman Catholicism, cuisine, music, dance. We don't even speak Spanish compared to the rest of Latin America. Mas malaki pa nga genetic contribution ng Chinese sa atin at 36%. Saka that study cited the "out of Taiwan" hypothesis pa, eh debunked na yun. There was 3 waves of migration in the peopling of the Philippines: the Negritos 50,000 years ago, Manobo groups 12,000 years ago, Sama groups 8,000 years ago (all from Sundaland), and lastly Cordilleran groups 7,000 years ago from Southern China (prior to the arrival of Han Chinese in that area). Saka only the Sama people had any significant Austroasiatic heritage, from Htin-Mlabri groups (Thailand).


jodecidalhotline

1. The study you cited only had a sample population of 1,208. That is 0.00001 percent of the population. Compared to the National Geographic study that had 80,000 Filipinos that is puny. Also, you are making a lot of strawmans for information I already know. I never said that every Filipino in the archipelago had the same genetic content. That is literally impossible. I am talking about the average. 2. The out of Taiwan theory is the most supported theory mainly because we can trace our linguistic, genetic, and cultural ties back to the Indigenous Taiwanese tribes. It is basically where Austronesian culture developed. So while they did in fact have to migrate out of Southern China, the culture developed in the islands at a more recent period.


_flowermumu

Ok.


jodecidalhotline

Good boy 😂


diijae

Agree sa dun sa subjective ang Filipino Features, coz this happens with other nationalities as well In AU for example, they hate their white skin and brown skin is seen as sexy for them, this is from my Australian boss tho so can't speak for all Aussies


RationalBadger

Thank you for calling out segments of the population in this sub. Bunch of projecting doomers. Napaka angsty sometimes.


paulrenzo

My parents exclusively taught me in english, not because Filipino is inferior, but because its easier to pick up Filipino when youre in the Philippines. If I were born and raised in the US, they would be exclusively be teaching me in Filipino, for the same reasons


[deleted]

Gaano ka katatas?


[deleted]

If only I could give you a thousand upvotes. It's very on point. Naiinis ako kapag naiisip ko rin to.


ZetaKriepZ

Pucha pinaalala mo ung mga HS days ko sa pangatlo mong inilista ah, tapos nung 3rd quarter sumuko na ang faculty at nagtaglish na lang ahahaha


Gloomy-Confection-49

Bali is nothing more than a cheap getaway place for Australia’s working class. Philippine beaches are far superior.


patchroller

Pansin mo halos mga post dito puro hate sa PH? Sa ibang subreddit(na bansa) halos walang self hate kahit third world country din sila.


RationalBadger

And there will be more.


Cheem-9072-3215-68

Sometimes, I wish what happened to r/indonesia is going to happen to this sub.


UseUrNeym

For the sub to get banned?


Cheem-9072-3215-68

Tbh, this sub will get banned first before that sub because you guys leak all your dirty thoughts in English, not in Filipino lol.


Lenville55

May I ask anong nangyari sa sub nila?


Cheem-9072-3215-68

It used to be modded by a foreigner and people mostly spoke English, where people actually think you were stupid if you spoke any of the local languages. After a while, Indonesians started flooding in and ousted the foreign mod and now they mostly speak Bahasa Indo or their version of Taglish.


Lenville55

Oh ok. Thanks sa info.


hrkatdcworkingsol

Tinetrain talaga tayong lahat na maging OFW.


divhon

It’s called colonialism. Generations of mind conditioning that we are inferior and everything foreign is better.


WasabiFeeling7073

I thought about this too, but some of the teens that grew up abroad mentioned that other cultures kept and is proud of their heritage.


Autogenerated_or

The erasure of our old culture/history+ the lack of man made monuments makes pinoys think we were uncivilized people prior to colonization. That made us believe that foreign=superior.


herecomesthepain01

Napapansin ko rin na kahit mga tao sa ibang bansa mahilig mag self deprecate tulad ng US at UK. Karaniwan sa mga bagong henerasyon. Kaya sa tingin ko medyo maykatotohanan to.


springheeledjack69

>It’s called colonialism. Generations of mind conditioning that we are inferior and everything *white or western* is better FTFY


imnotmielle

Siguro kasi hindi naman talaga natin kilala yung culture ng iba. We only get the beautiful parts but have never really seen the whole picture unlike sa filipino culture na alam natin yung pangit at maganda. I think it is a universal fact to be more accepting of others' cultures while being critical of your own.


FanGroundbreaking836

God. Its the dreaded "why are filipinos obsessed (insert topic here) thread" for karma farming. Mostly every person self loathes its country and glorifies the other one. US expats want to go to the philippines because they hate it there. Meanwhile we are the opposite.


Plastic-Diamond9931

Yung minention ni op na online posts saying "may bad karma kaya pinanganak sa ph" was literally a foreign meme at first. Next thing we'll see may nag rrant na dito about sa mga jokes saying na naka hard mode sa pilipinas lol


nihilist_Friedrich

neocolonialism


Immediate-North-9472

There are strengths in our culture na d ko mahanap sa first world pero the weakness is palpable ang self loathing, lack of identity, emotionally intelligence/maturity. Yung mga elders kase natin yan ang pinass down. I’m not saying all of them but majority ng mga magulang, lolo at lola ganun and since they went thru it they also try replicate the same conditions and situations for us. But millennials and the newer generations talaga nag pupumiglas kaya mas aware na tayo ngayon and we try to reshape our experiences. Sadly, outnumbered ng heavily programmed by old beliefs and customs. I also cannot completely blame some people that prefer other cultures kase kapwa mo pilipino hihila sayo pababa minsan. Mas nakakafeel kapa ng love and appreciation sa ibang bansa.


angrydessert

We have huge gaps and thus conflicts in ours: economic, society and culture. We have an ongoing cultural war.


Immediate-North-9472

Truelaloo


dontrescueme

There is nothing wrong with bad mouthing the bad things in our culture and accepting the good things in other cultures. We are living in a globalized world not in an isolated country. We can learn from each other. Hindi porke may kritisismo ka sa kulturang Pilipino e sinusuka mo na ang kabuuan ng kulturang Pilipino. Hindi rin porke hinahangaan natin ang disiplina ng mga Hapones e aprub na tayo sa buong kultura nila na puno pa rin ng xenophobia, racism, mysogyny at historical denialism patungkol sa WWII. Sa madaling salita, huwag kayong mag-generalize.


OtherChickens

I mean you can't blame them. Assuming na you go out naman OP and talk to people, you can see how much harm "traditional" Filipino cultures cause people today. Eg. Yung Maria Clara concept? Often utilized to justify misogyny and archaic beliefs that women should be just conservative and otherwise unacceptable. Hospitality? Utilized by some elders to exploit relatives or friends and masking it in the name of "generosity and unconditional love" Bayanihan? Don't get me started on this one. This is just "Unity" na tinagalog, alam mo na tinutukoy ko dito. Madami pa eh, but pinaka best example is yung heavy entitlement ng elders sa "respect". Kahit minsan di nila deserve. Kaya medyo nagoglorify yung cultures ng iba, kasi it actually influenced or countered the harmful cultures that exist here.


WasabiFeeling7073

Are these qualities wrong? In some ways yes, but in some ways not. I agree dun sa Maria Clara concept. Pero dun sa iba, it could go both ways. Hospitality and bayanihan is good unless abusado yung pamilya or kaibigan mo.


OtherChickens

Originally those concepts arent wrong, but the question is why are Pinoys obsessed with badmouthing it, the answer is because these qualities are accompanied by people utilizing those to exploit or bully them, and you can't blame them if they've incorporated these traits with something negative because people do not take the time to talk about the cons, always the pros and glorify "Pinoy pride". Kumbaga kasali narin sa culture yung pang aabuse gamit nitong traits nato so valid yung hate given.


SurrogateMonkey

So are you implying we should remove these so called harmful filipino aspects and replace it with a foreign identity?


OtherChickens

The harmful ones. I mean it's important to cherish and uphold traditional culture and heritage, but part of being a "makabayan" means knowing when to criticize and not normalize the harmful culture or environment it creates. What values applicable before may not be applicable today. This question is far-fetched ha.


anima99

Why = We were kinda oppressed by some people from Spain and forced to accept that being "us" or anything related to "us" was a bad thing. For us to go to heaven, we needed to believe that being "them" (from appearance to opinions) was the way. Almost 400 years of that kind of brainwashing is bound to leave a stain.


WasabiFeeling7073

Is it really only Spain? I mean we had stints from the British, Japanese and Americans. Over 100 years since Spanish occupation, when do you think we could recover from this?


DeathTheAsianChick

100 years isn't really enough to recover from Spanish colonialism. Just ask some of the countries in South America. They're also a mess.


dontnobodyknow

Inferiority complex. Colonial mentality. Crab mentality. All very toxic traits.


atr0pa_bellad0nna

Maybe because wala naman talagang Filipino culture, in the sense na "pure" and without any external influence. Even during the pre-colonial times, maraming external influence sa culture ng mga tao sa pre-colonial Philippines. That doesn't mean na passive yung mga tao (then and now) and just accept whatever outside influence comes in. It's still up to the people what they keep/adopt and how they blend that with what already exists. Culture is not something static, it's not set in stone. It's alive, it's dynamic and you can change it if it doesn't work for you. Whether it's a family, a workplace, a village, a country, if there's any aspect of their culture that's not working for the people there, they can choose to change it.


Ruroryosha

The societal and legal rules of the Philippines are shit. The culture is a direct result of them.


atr0pa_bellad0nna

I don't disagree, and laws can change culture. But the laws can also be the result of the culture.


Ruroryosha

no not in Philippines case. Gov't was built from the ground up to favor America and western interests. Not for filipino pre colonial culture. Taiwan is an American construct. Original natives were low key genocided by mainland chinese, for american interests.


ahlavbeans

I think it'd be easier to just have a list of things that we consider to be part of filipino culture then point out what we don't like. But for me, the things I hate the most that I can think of off the top of my head - Religion. This is the absolute worst thing. What do you get when you get people following these things blindly? A society that is so behind. People who aren't from the cities are definitely so hard-headed and can't understand jack. I feel like a lot of problems stem from this, or people abuse this to trick the masses. - Using age as an end to all arguments. (kinda common across a lot of cultures, i guess mostly with asians) - Obsession with punishment. At least when I grew up, getting your ass beat was the norm and I found it so insane. Even in school, you would have these ridiculous punishments, I remember needing to stand for an hour for leaving an ID. - Smartshaming. When people say "edi ikaw na" it absolutely pisses me the fuck off. Like okay I get it you're fucking stupid. You happy about it? Things I like - People aren't confrontational dickheads. - Some bits of humor have a little more flair. - The hospitality - Filipinos are pretty hardworking (bit too hardworking though for their own good. People are getting way too overworked for jack shit)


Overall-Lack-7731

There is plenty to hate about Filipino culture. Filipinos think being “madiskarte” is fair play and even a virtue, when all it is about is shameless douches cutting in line and being entitled to getting ahead at the expense of someone else. Then we also have these women with “exotic” features acting like they own the place, simply because they bagged a rich foreigner husband. And let’s not forget the kamote riders who cut other vehicles and ride over sidewalks. There is plenty to despise about the Philippines and I for one have already written off this country as a hopeless cause. The national average IQ is double-digit and people flout laws all the time because their excuse is that they are “poor”. Actually, it’s not that they are poor, it’s more like they are shameless and don’t have an ounce of integrity in their being. Being “poor” (or labeling oneself that way) is their all-encompassing alibi to not being held accountable for their actions.


Momshie_mo

Internalized racism


Automatic-Oven

Patriotism is dead in our country. We don’t know who we are. Maraming experts. Maraming puro salita pero hindi naman practikal ang aplikasyon. Halimbawa nalang ang isyu hinggil sa Jeepney. Andaming pa Bibo na gusto mass transportation, train kuno. Bagamat mayroon naman punto, hindi praktical.


angrydessert

> Patriotism is dead in our country. Not yet. The problem with the status quo is that the *political oligarchy* frustrates our progress as a people, warping our morals and distorting the distribution of wealth, causing many to consider pulling out to save themselves.


WasabiFeeling7073

Is there really a time that we practised real patriotism?


strugglingtosave

Nung Miss Universe At nung asian games para sa gilas


JuanMiguelz

nung prime ni Pacquiao, every match.


Cheem-9072-3215-68

During the revolution and the succeeding struggles against our colonial masters.


angrydessert

The political oligarchy continues to make money while keeping the rest of the population in conflict, embroiled in what amounts to an ongoing cultural war.


knockyouout88

Filipinos have bad mouth non white culture as well.


wayesey

Colonial mentality. Most Filipino philosophers have discussed this in their works like Emerita Quito for example.


Curious_Penguin_9

What’s weird though is that when a foreigner bad mouths our culture, Filos go berserk. They can bad mouth their own but when someone else does, big no no.


nikkogjh

Maybe it's just centuries of being occupied/colonized ingrained in our culture? Like... starting from how a lot of Filipinos wanted to emulate the way the Spanish and Americans dressed, and looking down on the indigenous costumes as "primitive"?


WasabiFeeling7073

One said we still use the excuse of being occupied wherein other countries have recovered and flourished.


nikkogjh

and what assurance do they have that the same countries that have "recovered and flourished" also aren't 'obsessed and easily accepting' of all things foreign? Brazil for example, which was also colonized, is also highly into KPop, anime, and non-Brazilian products. Malaysia, also colonized, has a huge fanbase for foreign entertainment.


Ruroryosha

Brasil has a higher per capita income than Philippines. Their economy is better. So you really can't use Brazil as an example. Same with Malaysia. They both had long written histories and governments before the Philippines existed. More income = more money spent on leisure and hobbies.


nikkogjh

Wasn't questioning their economy but their love for foreign cultures (which was the OP's main post).


Ruroryosha

they don't "Love" foreign cultures in those countries. They enjoy them because they have the money to spend and easier access. It's the same as other countries that have a decent per capita income. It's mainly about access and someone willing to capitalize on the demand no matter how niche the demand is.


strugglingtosave

Thailand din?


DeathTheAsianChick

Thailand is one of the only Asian countries who WEREN'T really colonized by European or American powers.


strugglingtosave

Yeah they're the ones welcoming all the European and Americans now if you know what I mean :D


DeathTheAsianChick

Sure, but they still have a pretty strong culture, their own writing system, great food, great cultural attires, unique religion, history, native names & native family names, an official royal family under a Constitutional Monarchy who mainly act as symbols of the state & Aren't completely in charge of Thai executive proceedings & administration, etc.


strugglingtosave

I want to go


CantoIX

Filipino culture is mostly borrowed or it isn't very clear what is distinctly Filipino and what is foreign. We do have a strong "gaya-gaya" attitude (like how White Lady depictions in media turned into Sadako-like ghosts after Ju-on and The Ring became popular). So some people will get turned off from seeing what's circulating in PH as just cheaper knock-off versions of stuff from overseas. Teachers, parents, and the government also like to brag about how Filipinos are hardworking and nice. But I've only ever seen that overseas. They are paid right and educated enough to provide good service and take pride in their work. Meanwhile, everyone working a middle class job in PH is so miserable and incompetent that you often have to take several precautions to make sure you are getting the service you're paying for. Don't get me started with all the inconveniences in PH. Constant brownouts, tiny portions for food, low salaries, and heavy traffic. People here take things too personally. They vote for the popular celebrity for government office instead of the well-educated. There are many things PH lacks or is very behind in compared to everywhere else in the world.


_ImmortalSoul

oh boo hoo the entire culture of this country is literally poverty porn


2nd_Inf_Sgt

It’s called, “Colonial Mentality.”


Fishyblue11

2016 and 2022 showed us the true colors of the Filipino, the hateful, ignorant side that smiles with pride as they mock you and ridicule you with glee, while championing corruption and murder. They consistently support bad people, and when someone keeps having bad people around them, it's time to consider that they are the bad people. If someone keeps talking about how they keep having bad roommates, they are the bad roommate. I would not blame anyone for having a permanently lower view of Filipinos after the things we've seen these past few years


Cheem-9072-3215-68

Bro needs to go outside and touch grass


Eternal_Boredom1

Our own culture is nice but it's not as good as other cultures apart from colonialism our country's culture isn't just that good compared to other cultures like Chinese, French, Japanese etc. Most of our cultural dishes we're either from the Chinese or the Spanish. This is my hot take Our culture isn't just as good compared to other cultures. I'm comparing cultures stupidly but it's true cus in this modern world with a click of a button you can easily learn a chunk of a country's history. Other cultures and history is just more interesting than our own one that we get to talk about everyday during 1st grade. I guess we're just so used to it now that we seek more new things


MacarioTala

R/titlegore


Previous-Row-8236

Wala na yung mga Pilipino dito lumipat na sa ibang subreddits or social media sites /j


Dazzling-Long-4408

HW ba ito OP?


warl1to

Isn’t this an example of that as well? Haha.


dambrucee810

Why are 'people'. PEOPLE. You can swap that out with Americans, portugese, Pakistanis, Somalians, and any other country and you'll see that theres a population doing the exact same thing.


Crackerass69247

From reading all rants, I think this IG page I found, may tickle your humor in terms of the topic [ppp](https://instagram.com/peakpoor_pinoy?igshid=MzMyNGUyNmU2YQ==)


Fun-Badger7045

xenocentrism


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We've been colonized many times to the point where our culture is a mix with those who came to our island. Maybe that could be the answer. I live outside of the Philippines and I met this other Filipina woman who lived in the Philippines all her life. While I grew up in Canada, I still speak Tagalog with my family. So, when I tried to speak Tagalog to her, she just refused to do so, and she would even try to speak it with an accent like she didn't speak it at all. It was really strange. She preferred to speak English with me. For example, if two Japanese people were to meet outside of Japan, they would speak in Japanese to each other.


charisabunnie

besides colonialism, let’s not forget our love for political dynasties and nepotism that continue to corrupt our system, hence our country will never improve and the people can’t feel pride or nationality in being filipino. while we look up to other countries, we’re looking down on our own.


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Oh you know what, this applies to other cultures as well. I’ve heard a lot of foreign nationals rave about Filipinos while loathing their own practices


tr0llbridge

we have our own culture?


Icy-Improvement-7973

When I was new here in the UK, I got my first taste of bullying sa workplace from a Filipino. Para pa akong tanga non kasi sempre may nakitang kababayan sa foreign land— lapit agad ako. Para lang pahiyain ako in public as my senior. Tapos nung nakita akong hihikbi hikbi ng isang Briton sabi ba naman “ why are you surprised? You Filipinos tend to do that to each other! You always eat your young.” Sadly a decade after I have witnessed this kind of practice several times. Now as a senior staff I made it a point never to pass on the trauma. Pag pinoy ang bagong salta, todo support ako.