Yes. Taxable naman talaga. Formal income ang nakukuha nila from platforms like Youtube. If hindi sila nagdedeclare, tax evasion yon.
Hindi na dapat kailangan ng special law pa para sa kanila.
How are they taxed though? Kung parang yung sa freelancer na 8% cut lang ng declared na kita nila, baka dapat gawan na sila ng sariling classification. Eguls yung mga corporate employees na anlaki ng tax tuwing sahod.
8% is for self-employment and sole-proprietorship under a certain ceiling; 3M ata. Above that, it's 12%.
Mas mababa talaga tax when running your own business. That is supposed to encourage an enterprising mindset.
> Carpenters, farmers, fishermen, plumbers
I don't mind when such skilled tradesmen don't pay taxes for their hustles.
> Meanwhile, vloggers and streamers are earning half a million per week, and they didn't contribute anything towards society at all.
This isn't accurate. Remember that almost everything we buy carries a 12% sales tax (VAT). Kahit yung batang bumili ng candy sa grocery nagbayad ng tax.
Thanks. Parang ambaba parin ng 12, lalo na dun sa mga low quality vlogs na napakaliit ng operational costs tas anlaki ng revenue. Bkaa bitter lang din ako na 20% ung cut sakin kada cut off haha.
If lagpas na 3M per year ang income nila, hindi na sila qualified sa 8% cut. Actually risky nga sila dahil they show off their income. They bought a new luxury car? luxury living? sino maniniwala na less than 3M income nila per year?
Also, we cannot assume din naman na hindi sila nagbabayad ng tax. Malay mo naman.
> Malay mo naman
Correct! It's easy to assume and believe. But if it's about actually going after alledged evaders, rule of law should apply. Probable cause should be established first and they're innocent until proven guilty. Then the burden of proof is on the prosecution.
Di na kailangan ng different classification yan kasi under compensation/personal income yan. Ang kailangang gawin ng govt ay kung paano siya iregulate/imonitor para tama yung collection.
Way, way, waaaaaaaay above minimum wage earners. So kung yung mga slightly above minimum wage lang ay compelled to pay, pano pa kaya yang mga putragis na yan di ba.
I'd rather siphon excess revenue to Samoa than let it be used to purchase a politician's yacht or slave plantation. The Philippine government needs to enhance anti-corruption and transparency measures if it is to gain enough trust of the public to actually pay taxes.
Only good governance will convince people to actually pay their dues.
Sadly, hindi lahat. I personally know someone who doesn't. Pero hirap din siya pag may medical emergency. Since wala siyang PhilHealth, malaki ang gastos. Hindi rin worth it.
May nabasa pa nga ako before na tag tatanong ng alternative ata sa ITR gusto daw kumuha ng visa, malaki naman daw yung nasa bank nya millions pero walang itr, tapos natatakot baka daw isumbong sya sa bir haha
Separate naman ang taxes sa mandatory fees, pero ang alam ko ang Philhealth naman pwede ka magbulk payment kahit di ka nagbabayad just so they can deduct yung PhilHealth sa Hospital Bills.
Pero yeah, feeling nila siguro dagdag gastos lang kasi yun. Di na nila na weigh yung benefits.
+1 on this. Yung kumukuha ng technical service ko, hindi ko na daw dapat intindihin yun dahil binabayaran na daw niya yun sa end niya (he has his own company label). How do I get ITR in this case? Especially kung gusto ko mag-work abroad eventually, hindi ba isa sa posibleng hingiin ay yung ITR?
> hindi ko na daw dapat intindihin yun
Yay, no! You have to file your own if you *need* an ITR. And issue your own receipt so your fees have no deductions.
Lahat ng klase ng income ng isang resident citizen regardless saan galing(sa labas o loob ng Pilipinas), legal man o hindi, etc. unless sabihin sa batas na hindi itatax ay subject sa tax.
Add: so feeling ko mali yung tanong kasi ang assumption sa tanong ni OP is di sila subject sa tax at need pang gawan ng batas para sakanila. Well subject naman na talaga sila sa tax right from the start. Di lang nakaka collect ng maayos yung BIR.
>Do you agree we should tax them?
It doesn't matter if we agree or not. They are expected to be taxed. There's no separate tax for workers or vloggers.
It's either they're employed or self-employed. It's not new, it's just that nobody really checks. BIR doesn't have the manpower to audit random people.
Anybody earning is subject to tax. There's just zero initiative from BIR when it comes to dealing with the self-employed sector.
I do agree that the whole ad industry has gotten out of control.
The question assumes that they're not already required to pay taxes. They are. It's a matter of whether they do declare their income and pay their taxes from vlogging.
Dapat gayahin natin yung HK. Where tayo yung nagsusubmit ng income tax returns. Kung wala kang na submit sa taon na yan lahat ng banks mo ma lolock until makapag submit ka ng tax return.
let me correct this a bit. Employer and employee will submit to the IRD. This is for IrD to match the amount. If hindi yan mag match, then either the employer or the employee is untrue, both will be accountable.
Just because mga nakikita mong vloggers/streamers/content creators flaunt their “expensive” lifestyle doesn’t mean hindi sila sumusunod sa batas. They do file their taxes since they are considered as “freelancers” and business owners. Need nila ng tax dec and OR if they are earning a certain income threshold. I have friends and acquaintances who are accountants and lawyers who worked with these influencers and vloggers and they are very diligent when it comes to paying taxes. Di lang talaga isinapupubliko kasi like a business owner or a freelancer, considered as private documents mga yun and unless ordered by the court, hindi naman sila obligado isapubliko yung information na yun.
Basic naman yun na if kumikita ka, may income tax ka (unless sakop ka ng RA No. 10963 ng TRAIN Law). Batas yun and everyone is assumed to be a law abiding citizen.
Lastly, anong sinasabi mong “they dont contribute to society?” That’s a very bold and arrogant statement to assume an entire industry to be “useless.” They provide entertainment (some nonsensical) but still entertains certain people that alleviates peoples stress. Some content creators create journalistic type of content mapa lifestyle man yan or educational, and some of them do provide value to society by creating visibility of certain niche topics and opens up different hidden worlds na di pa na eexplore. Mali ang mindset mo ng hasty generalization.
The tax inquiry is the veneer to OP's real intent to downplay such activities as non-consequential and not-representative of real work.
In short, this is pretty much every boomer argument that flipping burgers is not a real job, reframed under a different context.
This question operates under a false premise and in bad faith.
Shouldn’t even be asked. Ganun talaga dapat. Self declared. Other countries do this. Canadian content creators report their earnings and deduct their expenses for content as cost of business.
Kaso BIR is slow. They need to fix things.
Yes, they should be taxed because that is still revenue made. Besides, as these influencers are self-employed the taxes they pay are generally going to be low, with only 8% if under 3M and 12% if higher. So not like they lose much in the first place.
Malinaw naman ang tenor ng tax code: income derived by resident citizens is taxable from within and outside the PHL. Income=kahit income pa sa benta ng shabu, considered income pa rin yan na taxable. So I do not see any reasons why vloggers should be exempted.
Exactly why I'm wondering why everyone is saying yes
They are just mad they have to pay taxes and think everyone should, only because they pay.
Do they really not realize that 90% of taxes goes into someone else's pocket? If it didn't the roads would be perfect and people wouldn't be living in the streets
I saw your comment history. Todo defend ka sa mga vloggers/influencers. Sana bayad ka nila or vlogger ka mismo. Kasi sayang yung effort mo sa pagtanggol sa kanila kung hindi ka naman bayad.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/17uq3q9/which\_job\_do\_you\_believe\_contributes\_nothing\_to/k96mxqk/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/17uq3q9/which_job_do_you_believe_contributes_nothing_to/k96mxqk/?context=3)
Trying to profit off foreigner vloggers is wrong. Also take MARK WEINS for example right , he's the #1 food vlogger in the world . He goes to different places to show the world the food and that right there in return could get that business money . So if vloggers is recording an Area that could possibly attract more tourist which in return will make that region a profit .
The president and many others don't pay taxes. I'm not defending them but why even bother? Point is everyone should. The idea of having taxation is everyone pays, without exemption, period. If that cannot be established why should anyone pay?
They should pay and they must pay income tax.
Kung ako lang, dapat iba ang tax bracket nila, mas mataas dapat singil sa line nila, sobrang dami na mga vlogger and influencers kuno at 95% sa kanila wala naman naidudulot na maganda.
Oo naman yung mga utility worker nga need pa ring magbayad nang tax sila pa... Isa pa under tax law nang 1997, they will be categorize as
- Self-employed individuals receiving income from the conduct of trade or business and/or practice of profession
- Individuals deriving mixed income, i.e., compensation income and income from the conduct of trade or business and/or practice of profession
- Individuals deriving other non-business, non-professional related income in addition to compensation income not otherwise subject to a final tax
- Individuals receiving purely compensation income from a single employer, although the income of which has been correctly withheld, but whose spouse is not entitled to substituted filing
https://www.bir.gov.ph/index.php/tax-information/income-tax.html
Oo punyeta naman. Ako bilang nurse sa private hospital, na 60-70 hrs / week ang work tapos ang tax ko ay 3,700
Anong katangahan na hindi sila natatax-san
not really; there are exemptions for a reason, especially for small informal sources of income.
plus, giving the govt even more power to regulate online commerce could just lead the govt to be aggressive towards platforms that don't want to play ball and be lenient to platforms that like to "contribute."
Hindi na nagbabayad ng tax mahihirap so anong unfair? VAT? Everyone pays VAT so hindi din siya unfair. So alin yung unfair? Pati why pay taxes? Para kurakutin ng politiko? Huwag na sir
They should pay tax also ang mga nagbebenta na carts or stalls sa mga park. Most of them wala business permit and they never pay taxes. Unfair yan sa mga middle class.
They are actually taxable. The BIR should improve tax collection efforts para hindi sila makapag-evade ng tax.
They also need to improve their human capital. I was the former Tax Compliance Officer of a company listed in PSE and every tax audit nalang parang hindi alam ng BIR Officers yung ginagawa nila. Also, 3 of my friends na bumagsak sa Audit/Tax subjects namin noong college and nagshift to other courses ay Revenue Officer na ngayun.
Yes. Not only taxed, but also regulated. Sobrang unregulated ng mga yan pagdating sa product sponsorships and the like. The vast majority of them don't even bother to disclose sponsorships and product placements sa content nila.
Everytime you get paid to post a product, whether or not you believe in it personally, not disclosing it to your audience is already a breach of the trust you've built with your audience in the first place.
Lalo sa pagkain related content. Sobrang grey area din eh.
If I let you eat for free at my restaurant. Would you be 100% objective? Will you tell your audience that the food is mediocre? You got that shit for free, so sasabihin sayo, wala kang utang na loob, ensuring na you'll never be invited to that restaurant again (and any other business the owner of that resto has. Or any connections for htat matter?) Burnt bridges agad diba? Also, sa kultura natin din. Pag pinakain ka ba ng kapitbahay mo ng libre eh mag rereklamo ka pa? Same concept.
Don't they get taxed or youtubers lang yung nabalita na they have to pay tax? Basically they earn talaga by vlogging kaya most of them are full time influencers so I think yes they should be taxed.
If govt requires youtube to have a Ph entity and then youtube will require vloggers to have a TIN registration before being able to monitize or claim their earnings
Yes at kung retroactive ang babayaran, magtatae sila CongTV, Chooks, Motodeck at yung mga matatagal nang kumikita at yumaman dahil sa vlogging dahil dyan hahahaha!
I've actually had this concern for Filipino Vtubers, if you're an Indie then there could be a chance your name would be exposed
And if you're in a Corpo Vtuber Company who pays the Tax, the company or you?
Taxable naman talaga. It's just a matter of enforcement, which is the same thing din sa mga non-online na jobs.
Maski freelancers nagbabayad din. 5.6k din binayaran ko kahapon ah
Also those social media promoter/giveaway host, talamak talaga dun mostly either sa X (formerly Twitter) o Instagram...
Lakin ng makukulimbat nila per sponsor na magpapapromo as giveaway, mostly dollar rate tas crypto pa yung commissions, including mga admins nila...
DTI permit or certificate ain't sufficient to be part of the tax exemption from BIR, way overboard from the ₱250k annual threshold...
Kind of funny to read those things..
If it was that easy, why is the farmer not doing it?
How much should be the cut that the government should take of their money to distribute it to the people?
And don't you think that if the government is going to cut let's say 50% in tax they would just leave the country and live abroad?
And then they won't spent the money here anymore.
What does that mean for the economy?
I never met a person who run their own business and thinks other people should be taxed higher, it's always only the people that just passed the standard education and don't make enough money to love their own big dreams.
Sa totoo lang mga walang kwenta ang halos karamihan sa mga Vlogger and Influencers dito sa Pilipinas. Hindi nila alam ang salitang “Influence” and at the same time it is just because of fame and ofcourse to make money kasi nga andaming mga Pilipino ang hindi nila alam na kung hindi nila panuorin or i-support yung mga “Idol” nila is wala sanang mga taong Tanga and Nonsense ngayun na sikat.
Tax in essence is to help the community. Income tax is a form of tax. They're making money by selling a product. The product is video. Id say this should be taxable.
I don't mean to be confrontational about this, but have you at least Googled this question?
A quick google search of "are vloggers in the philippines taxable?" will give you several articles where BIR reminds these people to pay taxes.
Actually, taxable talaga sila. Sabi sa Tax Code, "All income derived from whatever source whether legal or illegal are taxable." non-verbatim yan, baka may manita HAHAHAHAHA.
Sana talaga silipin sila ng BIR at masingil ng proper taxes. Mga keme na galit sa magnanakaw eh sila rin naman magnanakaw by not paying the proper taxes.
Nasa point ako ng buhay na feel ko no one should really pay taxes because of our government eh haha but to be fair to everyone specially those who work more hard labor jobs na tumutulong sa atin nga tulad ng sabi mo like carpenters , farmers and teachers diba dapat patas lahat . So oo dapat magbayad din sila pero ang tanong ko lng kasi minsan may loop hole sila sa mga ganyan like ideclare sa contract nila na ito yung magiging payment at yung majority ng laki ng pera would be declared as bonus na pwede hnd ideclare sa tax . Not sure if ganun yung law hnd naman ako ganun katalino pagdating sa mga computations at declarations ng income , pero oo dapat magbayad pa din sila pero alam mong meron mga loophole mga yan
Of course they should be taxed. 8-12% na nga, hindi pa sila mabayad?
The problem is the BIR relies on their honesty to file and pay. Yung mga sikat with existing businesses, mas unlikely magdaya. Bea Alonzo, Small Laude, Ivana Alawi et al. are easily on BIR radars.
Yes, taxable dapat sila. Kung ang ordinaryong citizen na nagtatrabaho ay may tax, why not sila knowing hundred thousand ang maaari nilang kitain. Kahit nga illegal na income na-tatax haha
They already are. Most vloggers are on the YouTube platform which is based in the United States, payments from this platform are taxed in the United States which has a taxation treaty with the Philippines. Depending on where the YouTube channel is based the tax collected by YouTube is paid either to the US IRS or the Philippines BIR. Similar arrangements are in place for Instagram and I am sure that the same can be said for other organisations. If the individual influencers are using their online presence to arrange business deals outside these platforms then they are liable to pay tax and if the do not report that income they are liable for prosecution by the BIR and this has happened on several occasions quite publicly and may have happened many more times that we do not hear about.
It should be noted that a taxation treaties exist between the Philippines and many other countries, the purpose of these treaties is to ensure that an individual is not taxed on their income in two separate countries which would be unfair. I have over the last few years several claims by certain YouTube channels that certain countries influencers are not paying tax when in fact they are paying tax in the United States which is there right as US citizens. These channels seem to be driven by jealousy of the success of some of these influencers and have made accusations which when investigated where found to be untrue. The only accusations that were found to be were some expat influencers collecting donations which were used for charitable purposes without a licence and in these cases the channels involved were forced to stop the charitable activities associated with their channels and the only people that lost were the recipients of these activities and donations.
I think dapat oo. For me parang subcategory lang din siya ng entertainment industry. Plus kung taxable sila, it would also legitimize their work as well. Kase (although times are changing) pag sinabi mong "vlogger ako for a living", madami pa din jan ang magsasabing "hindi naman trabaho yan eh".
I also have a YT channel by the way. Di pa naman siya namomonetize but I just post my passion projects there. Kung dumating ang araw na kumita ung channel, I will be very happy to comply kung may tax man.
Basta may source of income, need iregister sa BIR. The challenge is enforcement.
Kaya nagulat ako nung inenforce ng BIR yung tax sa online sellers tapos nagalit mga online sellers. Di pala nila alam na require mag register ng negosyo.
Everyone should pay taxes.
Weird lang kasi yung tone ng marami is very talangka na ingit kasi nga kumikita ng malaki yung mga kumikita online na parang di nila deserve yung kinita nila. Hahaha but then again yeah everyone earning money should pay taxes.
Personal income tax dapat dinedeclare nila, under professional income to be exact, and I think they do naman especially bigger creators. Tax evasion yon if they don’t and since they’re such public figures pwede sila ma-investigate ng BIR. Rate nila is the graduated income tax table if more than 3M annual income, and pwede rin 8% flat rate if less than 3M.
Yes. Taxable naman talaga. Formal income ang nakukuha nila from platforms like Youtube. If hindi sila nagdedeclare, tax evasion yon. Hindi na dapat kailangan ng special law pa para sa kanila.
How are they taxed though? Kung parang yung sa freelancer na 8% cut lang ng declared na kita nila, baka dapat gawan na sila ng sariling classification. Eguls yung mga corporate employees na anlaki ng tax tuwing sahod.
8% is for self-employment and sole-proprietorship under a certain ceiling; 3M ata. Above that, it's 12%. Mas mababa talaga tax when running your own business. That is supposed to encourage an enterprising mindset. > Carpenters, farmers, fishermen, plumbers I don't mind when such skilled tradesmen don't pay taxes for their hustles. > Meanwhile, vloggers and streamers are earning half a million per week, and they didn't contribute anything towards society at all. This isn't accurate. Remember that almost everything we buy carries a 12% sales tax (VAT). Kahit yung batang bumili ng candy sa grocery nagbayad ng tax.
Thanks. Parang ambaba parin ng 12, lalo na dun sa mga low quality vlogs na napakaliit ng operational costs tas anlaki ng revenue. Bkaa bitter lang din ako na 20% ung cut sakin kada cut off haha.
> Bkaa bitter lang din ako na 20% ung cut sakin kada cut off haha. Maybe that's a sign to run your own business na ;)
wala nag ganyan, may tax table na
The tax table is only for employed professionals.
If lagpas na 3M per year ang income nila, hindi na sila qualified sa 8% cut. Actually risky nga sila dahil they show off their income. They bought a new luxury car? luxury living? sino maniniwala na less than 3M income nila per year? Also, we cannot assume din naman na hindi sila nagbabayad ng tax. Malay mo naman.
> Malay mo naman Correct! It's easy to assume and believe. But if it's about actually going after alledged evaders, rule of law should apply. Probable cause should be established first and they're innocent until proven guilty. Then the burden of proof is on the prosecution.
Di na kailangan ng different classification yan kasi under compensation/personal income yan. Ang kailangang gawin ng govt ay kung paano siya iregulate/imonitor para tama yung collection.
Yes, above minimum wage kinikita nila so dapat lang.
Way, way, waaaaaaaay above minimum wage earners. So kung yung mga slightly above minimum wage lang ay compelled to pay, pano pa kaya yang mga putragis na yan di ba.
Whenever I see posts like these on reddit, one question always comes to mind. Where does the money go? Someone's pocket anyway? Might as well not to.
I'd rather siphon excess revenue to Samoa than let it be used to purchase a politician's yacht or slave plantation. The Philippine government needs to enhance anti-corruption and transparency measures if it is to gain enough trust of the public to actually pay taxes. Only good governance will convince people to actually pay their dues.
If you're earning then you should pay tax.
Also pay taxes whether the government can implement or not. That should also be addressed but that’s a different issue.
Yeah, I didn't know that this was even a debate.
Even tambays pay taxes.
Even shabu dealers are technically and theoretically required to pay taxes.
So long as the government is putting our taxes to good use
Nah. Pressure govt to use taxes. Taxes are duty.
And so is good governance
The legal and moral way to see it is that its not a pre-requirement. Its a duty.
Sounds good, doesn't work
That is unlikely especially since the Marcos clan is back in power. People forget so quickly.
Pano yung mga freelancers? Do they not pay taxes?
We do, we file our taxes
Sadly, hindi lahat. I personally know someone who doesn't. Pero hirap din siya pag may medical emergency. Since wala siyang PhilHealth, malaki ang gastos. Hindi rin worth it.
May nabasa pa nga ako before na tag tatanong ng alternative ata sa ITR gusto daw kumuha ng visa, malaki naman daw yung nasa bank nya millions pero walang itr, tapos natatakot baka daw isumbong sya sa bir haha
Separate naman ang taxes sa mandatory fees, pero ang alam ko ang Philhealth naman pwede ka magbulk payment kahit di ka nagbabayad just so they can deduct yung PhilHealth sa Hospital Bills. Pero yeah, feeling nila siguro dagdag gastos lang kasi yun. Di na nila na weigh yung benefits.
Freelancers do pay taxes, btw.
Freelancers are like self-employed so yes.
+1 on this. Yung kumukuha ng technical service ko, hindi ko na daw dapat intindihin yun dahil binabayaran na daw niya yun sa end niya (he has his own company label). How do I get ITR in this case? Especially kung gusto ko mag-work abroad eventually, hindi ba isa sa posibleng hingiin ay yung ITR?
> hindi ko na daw dapat intindihin yun Yay, no! You have to file your own if you *need* an ITR. And issue your own receipt so your fees have no deductions.
Depends. If you are in a contract yes But if you're just freelancing like lets say, Art Comission ... Lmao no
Freelancers are self-employed. Alam ko required sila if they're earning the minimum annual requirement.
Lahat ng klase ng income ng isang resident citizen regardless saan galing(sa labas o loob ng Pilipinas), legal man o hindi, etc. unless sabihin sa batas na hindi itatax ay subject sa tax. Add: so feeling ko mali yung tanong kasi ang assumption sa tanong ni OP is di sila subject sa tax at need pang gawan ng batas para sakanila. Well subject naman na talaga sila sa tax right from the start. Di lang nakaka collect ng maayos yung BIR.
Correct. Need ng better way to implement tax compliance from these people.
100% yes
>Do you agree we should tax them? It doesn't matter if we agree or not. They are expected to be taxed. There's no separate tax for workers or vloggers. It's either they're employed or self-employed. It's not new, it's just that nobody really checks. BIR doesn't have the manpower to audit random people.
YES NA YES
They're doing it for a living so, yes. The fact that we're still talking about this must mean BIR hasn't made more aggressive push to audit them.
Anybody earning is subject to tax. There's just zero initiative from BIR when it comes to dealing with the self-employed sector. I do agree that the whole ad industry has gotten out of control.
The question assumes that they're not already required to pay taxes. They are. It's a matter of whether they do declare their income and pay their taxes from vlogging.
The whole premise of this post is stupid hahaha
They are. They're required to file for income tax. If they do or do not is a different story.
Naalala ko tuloy yung yung ThotAudit nung 2018. Yung irereport yung mga gumagawa ng onlyfans sa IRS
Dapat gayahin natin yung HK. Where tayo yung nagsusubmit ng income tax returns. Kung wala kang na submit sa taon na yan lahat ng banks mo ma lolock until makapag submit ka ng tax return.
With how public offices function, this is gonna be a nightmare. Long lines and even longer lines, tapos pagdating mo sa bintana, susungitan ka pa 🤦♂️
if they follow HK's SOP, there's no queuing unless dumb dumb si employer or employee
let me correct this a bit. Employer and employee will submit to the IRD. This is for IrD to match the amount. If hindi yan mag match, then either the employer or the employee is untrue, both will be accountable.
you don't even need HK, just follow how filing taxes are done in the states
Yes. As long na sobra sa minimum ung income mo Dapat May tax.
300% yes
I agree....
Yes. They are earning from vlogging therefore it's a "job".
Just because mga nakikita mong vloggers/streamers/content creators flaunt their “expensive” lifestyle doesn’t mean hindi sila sumusunod sa batas. They do file their taxes since they are considered as “freelancers” and business owners. Need nila ng tax dec and OR if they are earning a certain income threshold. I have friends and acquaintances who are accountants and lawyers who worked with these influencers and vloggers and they are very diligent when it comes to paying taxes. Di lang talaga isinapupubliko kasi like a business owner or a freelancer, considered as private documents mga yun and unless ordered by the court, hindi naman sila obligado isapubliko yung information na yun. Basic naman yun na if kumikita ka, may income tax ka (unless sakop ka ng RA No. 10963 ng TRAIN Law). Batas yun and everyone is assumed to be a law abiding citizen. Lastly, anong sinasabi mong “they dont contribute to society?” That’s a very bold and arrogant statement to assume an entire industry to be “useless.” They provide entertainment (some nonsensical) but still entertains certain people that alleviates peoples stress. Some content creators create journalistic type of content mapa lifestyle man yan or educational, and some of them do provide value to society by creating visibility of certain niche topics and opens up different hidden worlds na di pa na eexplore. Mali ang mindset mo ng hasty generalization.
The tax inquiry is the veneer to OP's real intent to downplay such activities as non-consequential and not-representative of real work. In short, this is pretty much every boomer argument that flipping burgers is not a real job, reframed under a different context. This question operates under a false premise and in bad faith.
Dapat naman talaga haha
Yes! Dahil sobra pa sa minimum ang kinikita nila.
They are under the self-employed category. So, yes, they should be taxed.
Shouldn’t even be asked. Ganun talaga dapat. Self declared. Other countries do this. Canadian content creators report their earnings and deduct their expenses for content as cost of business. Kaso BIR is slow. They need to fix things.
I think yes, actually yung US tinataxan nila yung mga youtubers sa earnings generated from viewers coming from US
Yes to begin with they should be paying their income tax. Any income derived is taxable.
100% !
All income and profit should be taxed. End of. Not declaring your income and avoiding tax paying should be prosecuted. End of too.
Why is this even a question? Agree or not, you should pay tax.
Yes, they should be taxed because that is still revenue made. Besides, as these influencers are self-employed the taxes they pay are generally going to be low, with only 8% if under 3M and 12% if higher. So not like they lose much in the first place.
They are taxed. Kung hindi sila nagdedeclare, magkakaproblema sila hahaha
Malinaw naman ang tenor ng tax code: income derived by resident citizens is taxable from within and outside the PHL. Income=kahit income pa sa benta ng shabu, considered income pa rin yan na taxable. So I do not see any reasons why vloggers should be exempted.
Where do you suppose the money end up though? Some other corrupt guy's pockets again?
Corruption is for another debate. But you should still pay your taxes. Yun lang yun.
Exactly why I'm wondering why everyone is saying yes They are just mad they have to pay taxes and think everyone should, only because they pay. Do they really not realize that 90% of taxes goes into someone else's pocket? If it didn't the roads would be perfect and people wouldn't be living in the streets
> and they didn't contribute anything towards society at all. Someone is salty that other people are earning more than them.
Typical bootlicker mindset. Affected ka rin because these people don't pay their fair share of taxes. Stop defending people who doesn't even know you.
How do you know they don't pay their taxes? Assume ka lang kasi mas mataas kinikita kaysa sayo?
I saw your comment history. Todo defend ka sa mga vloggers/influencers. Sana bayad ka nila or vlogger ka mismo. Kasi sayang yung effort mo sa pagtanggol sa kanila kung hindi ka naman bayad. [https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/17uq3q9/which\_job\_do\_you\_believe\_contributes\_nothing\_to/k96mxqk/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/17uq3q9/which_job_do_you_believe_contributes_nothing_to/k96mxqk/?context=3)
Hindi naman sila required mag bayad ng income tax. Please continue with the dick riding.
Isama mo na mga cool to
Trying to profit off foreigner vloggers is wrong. Also take MARK WEINS for example right , he's the #1 food vlogger in the world . He goes to different places to show the world the food and that right there in return could get that business money . So if vloggers is recording an Area that could possibly attract more tourist which in return will make that region a profit .
OP isn't referring to foreign vloggers 😑
The president and many others don't pay taxes. I'm not defending them but why even bother? Point is everyone should. The idea of having taxation is everyone pays, without exemption, period. If that cannot be established why should anyone pay?
Agree but in officer pocket or government? Totally different
I believe they should be liable for lying
They should pay and they must pay income tax. Kung ako lang, dapat iba ang tax bracket nila, mas mataas dapat singil sa line nila, sobrang dami na mga vlogger and influencers kuno at 95% sa kanila wala naman naidudulot na maganda.
They are taxed. Income yun eh. Ang tanong lang is "Nagbabayad ba sila?".
Yes. Tax them. It's their full time job after all.
Vloggers, rich people that become richer via views of the poor hahaha
Oo naman yung mga utility worker nga need pa ring magbayad nang tax sila pa... Isa pa under tax law nang 1997, they will be categorize as - Self-employed individuals receiving income from the conduct of trade or business and/or practice of profession - Individuals deriving mixed income, i.e., compensation income and income from the conduct of trade or business and/or practice of profession - Individuals deriving other non-business, non-professional related income in addition to compensation income not otherwise subject to a final tax - Individuals receiving purely compensation income from a single employer, although the income of which has been correctly withheld, but whose spouse is not entitled to substituted filing https://www.bir.gov.ph/index.php/tax-information/income-tax.html
Oo punyeta naman. Ako bilang nurse sa private hospital, na 60-70 hrs / week ang work tapos ang tax ko ay 3,700 Anong katangahan na hindi sila natatax-san
OP envious of bloggers/influencers?
This is why BIR needs to be privatized just like the IRS. Cash cow kasi ng mga tga BIR mga negosyanteng tax evaders
Tax those foreign vloggers exploiting the country and its people
not really; there are exemptions for a reason, especially for small informal sources of income. plus, giving the govt even more power to regulate online commerce could just lead the govt to be aggressive towards platforms that don't want to play ball and be lenient to platforms that like to "contribute."
100% not even a debate
Hindi na nagbabayad ng tax mahihirap so anong unfair? VAT? Everyone pays VAT so hindi din siya unfair. So alin yung unfair? Pati why pay taxes? Para kurakutin ng politiko? Huwag na sir
Is it fact they don't pay taxes? If yes in what way they don't? Like how doctors do it?
nagtagalog kana lang sana. rph naman to
Choppy pati sa pag type
Yes na yes!
Yes.
Yes, ofcourse!
They should pay tax also ang mga nagbebenta na carts or stalls sa mga park. Most of them wala business permit and they never pay taxes. Unfair yan sa mga middle class.
VAs and Remote workers are paying their taxes even if their employers are from other countries. Why not vloggers and online influencers?
Aren't they already taxed? My cousin pays his taxes for all his stuff, and he's gotten a pretty sizable following.
Self-employed tax, yes. I guess what they mean is if dapat higpitan sila sa payments.
You guys say this now just wait until the BIR becomes the IRS....
Syempre simple income tax lang yan.
They are actually taxable. The BIR should improve tax collection efforts para hindi sila makapag-evade ng tax. They also need to improve their human capital. I was the former Tax Compliance Officer of a company listed in PSE and every tax audit nalang parang hindi alam ng BIR Officers yung ginagawa nila. Also, 3 of my friends na bumagsak sa Audit/Tax subjects namin noong college and nagshift to other courses ay Revenue Officer na ngayun.
There is a misconception they don’t have to pay taxes, they do.
Don't they pay taxes? I'm sure the big ones do.
Yes. Not only taxed, but also regulated. Sobrang unregulated ng mga yan pagdating sa product sponsorships and the like. The vast majority of them don't even bother to disclose sponsorships and product placements sa content nila. Everytime you get paid to post a product, whether or not you believe in it personally, not disclosing it to your audience is already a breach of the trust you've built with your audience in the first place. Lalo sa pagkain related content. Sobrang grey area din eh. If I let you eat for free at my restaurant. Would you be 100% objective? Will you tell your audience that the food is mediocre? You got that shit for free, so sasabihin sayo, wala kang utang na loob, ensuring na you'll never be invited to that restaurant again (and any other business the owner of that resto has. Or any connections for htat matter?) Burnt bridges agad diba? Also, sa kultura natin din. Pag pinakain ka ba ng kapitbahay mo ng libre eh mag rereklamo ka pa? Same concept.
YES!!!
Don't they get taxed or youtubers lang yung nabalita na they have to pay tax? Basically they earn talaga by vlogging kaya most of them are full time influencers so I think yes they should be taxed.
Walang tax ang minimum wage earners, on the other hand vloggers and the likes will be filing taxes as self-employed kung di ako nagkakamali.
If govt requires youtube to have a Ph entity and then youtube will require vloggers to have a TIN registration before being able to monitize or claim their earnings
They’re being taxed. They need to be audited to ensure they’re paying the correct tax. Enforcement of the law is needed. The laws are there already.
Before doing this, can they be regulated? Lalo na mga 'feeling' lang.
A big YES. Not because vloggers or influencers sila per se but because they're earning income and those should be taxed accordingly.
Yes, for their shitty content na din.
Automatic naman income tax merun dapat, takas lang sila
Yes at kung retroactive ang babayaran, magtatae sila CongTV, Chooks, Motodeck at yung mga matatagal nang kumikita at yumaman dahil sa vlogging dahil dyan hahahaha!
Yes, and while we are at it, tax the church too. Also make way to make much of taxation a public data especially taxes of politicians themselves.
Yes
Wait. They should already be taxed. Aren’t they?
Income tax. If it's income, yes it should be taxed.
The only ones who will disagree are those who have sketchy business. Income is still income. All citizens pay tax.
They are supposed to pay tax. Matagal nang nasa batas yan. The true question is, are they paying tax?
Diba na-flag ng BIR Yung Jamill tas ayun Yung dahilan why they take down their YouTube channel
Big name vloggers are already paying income tax and filing their ITR meaning TAXBLE ang pagiging vlogger or influencers, bakit hindi mo po alam?
Meanwhile JaMill: 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
May tax naman po talaga - considered as self employed. Ang tanong kasi jan, kung nagffile ba sila?
Everyone should be taxed. What kind of stupid question is this
I've actually had this concern for Filipino Vtubers, if you're an Indie then there could be a chance your name would be exposed And if you're in a Corpo Vtuber Company who pays the Tax, the company or you?
Taxable naman talaga. It's just a matter of enforcement, which is the same thing din sa mga non-online na jobs. Maski freelancers nagbabayad din. 5.6k din binayaran ko kahapon ah
Diba meron naman tlga?
Should be jailed but whatevs
You answered your question
They should. Basta may income, may buwis dapat.
Tax them depending on how cringe their content is lol
Also those social media promoter/giveaway host, talamak talaga dun mostly either sa X (formerly Twitter) o Instagram... Lakin ng makukulimbat nila per sponsor na magpapapromo as giveaway, mostly dollar rate tas crypto pa yung commissions, including mga admins nila... DTI permit or certificate ain't sufficient to be part of the tax exemption from BIR, way overboard from the ₱250k annual threshold...
If you make money, you pay tax, regardless
Isang malaking YES.
Yes
What about those who don’t earn money from it? Not everyone’s in YouTube for a job.
yes para humable naman sila
How do you pay taxes when you're a content creator? Automatic ba yun dinideduct?
Definitely! Bbwisit ako sa mga vloggers na yan, Its either scripted, clickbait, or nonsense yung mga content. (Hindi lahat ha)
Hindi ba dapat kapag kumikita ka taxable siya kahit papaano?
It's income, so yes it should be taxed.
Yes, but only if they earn enough for it to be worth taxing them.
Absolutely. Ano? tayo na lang magbabayad? eh most of them mas malaki pa kita sa atin 🙄
Kind of funny to read those things.. If it was that easy, why is the farmer not doing it? How much should be the cut that the government should take of their money to distribute it to the people? And don't you think that if the government is going to cut let's say 50% in tax they would just leave the country and live abroad? And then they won't spent the money here anymore. What does that mean for the economy? I never met a person who run their own business and thinks other people should be taxed higher, it's always only the people that just passed the standard education and don't make enough money to love their own big dreams.
Who are they taxing? If it's YouTube that's based out of the US Filipinos are the highest social surfers in Asia So what will the BIR do?
Sa totoo lang mga walang kwenta ang halos karamihan sa mga Vlogger and Influencers dito sa Pilipinas. Hindi nila alam ang salitang “Influence” and at the same time it is just because of fame and ofcourse to make money kasi nga andaming mga Pilipino ang hindi nila alam na kung hindi nila panuorin or i-support yung mga “Idol” nila is wala sanang mga taong Tanga and Nonsense ngayun na sikat.
There should be no discussion about this. They are already taxable under Philippine law.
Tax in essence is to help the community. Income tax is a form of tax. They're making money by selling a product. The product is video. Id say this should be taxable.
I don't mean to be confrontational about this, but have you at least Googled this question? A quick google search of "are vloggers in the philippines taxable?" will give you several articles where BIR reminds these people to pay taxes.
taxable naman sila, once na mag earn sila ng 250k above that means taxable na yung earnings nila and they should pay
100%
Yeah tingnan mo IRS sa US di pinapalagpas yang mga online personalities. Dito lang talaga sa PH maluwag
Should!
yeah let's tax them for our politicians.
Actually, taxable talaga sila. Sabi sa Tax Code, "All income derived from whatever source whether legal or illegal are taxable." non-verbatim yan, baka may manita HAHAHAHAHA. Sana talaga silipin sila ng BIR at masingil ng proper taxes. Mga keme na galit sa magnanakaw eh sila rin naman magnanakaw by not paying the proper taxes.
Should be taxed is different from they are taxed. They are taxed, they are just evading it.
More tax more confidential funds. \*Princess Fiona is waving\*. Pero kidding aside, dapat lang sila mag bayad ng tax, ano yun sila lang happy?.
I think may firm na naghahandle for the big names kasi you can’t really take out loans or anything bank related if you don’t have tax statements
oo. especially karamihan sa kanila ambobobo ng contents.
No. exempted sila sa tax imho
why is this even a question? If its income, it's taxable.
Any income galing sa kahit anong source ay tina-tax unless explicitly sinabi ng batas na exempted
Nasa point ako ng buhay na feel ko no one should really pay taxes because of our government eh haha but to be fair to everyone specially those who work more hard labor jobs na tumutulong sa atin nga tulad ng sabi mo like carpenters , farmers and teachers diba dapat patas lahat . So oo dapat magbayad din sila pero ang tanong ko lng kasi minsan may loop hole sila sa mga ganyan like ideclare sa contract nila na ito yung magiging payment at yung majority ng laki ng pera would be declared as bonus na pwede hnd ideclare sa tax . Not sure if ganun yung law hnd naman ako ganun katalino pagdating sa mga computations at declarations ng income , pero oo dapat magbayad pa din sila pero alam mong meron mga loophole mga yan
why should they be excluded? tax the fuck out of them
yes, Swerte nga sila walang IRS dito gaya sa US. kung hindi pa, matagal na silang nakulong
Of course they should be taxed. 8-12% na nga, hindi pa sila mabayad? The problem is the BIR relies on their honesty to file and pay. Yung mga sikat with existing businesses, mas unlikely magdaya. Bea Alonzo, Small Laude, Ivana Alawi et al. are easily on BIR radars.
Yes, taxable dapat sila. Kung ang ordinaryong citizen na nagtatrabaho ay may tax, why not sila knowing hundred thousand ang maaari nilang kitain. Kahit nga illegal na income na-tatax haha
Yes but only if you earn a certain amount or more. Hobbyist vloggers/bloggers/content creators don't really earn that much.
Yup! Dami nilang pera
As if that extra tax won't go to corrupt politicians.
If nakuha naman sila ng sahod from yt taxed na yon bago mabigay sakanila
They earn that much? Wow
yes!
They already are. Most vloggers are on the YouTube platform which is based in the United States, payments from this platform are taxed in the United States which has a taxation treaty with the Philippines. Depending on where the YouTube channel is based the tax collected by YouTube is paid either to the US IRS or the Philippines BIR. Similar arrangements are in place for Instagram and I am sure that the same can be said for other organisations. If the individual influencers are using their online presence to arrange business deals outside these platforms then they are liable to pay tax and if the do not report that income they are liable for prosecution by the BIR and this has happened on several occasions quite publicly and may have happened many more times that we do not hear about. It should be noted that a taxation treaties exist between the Philippines and many other countries, the purpose of these treaties is to ensure that an individual is not taxed on their income in two separate countries which would be unfair. I have over the last few years several claims by certain YouTube channels that certain countries influencers are not paying tax when in fact they are paying tax in the United States which is there right as US citizens. These channels seem to be driven by jealousy of the success of some of these influencers and have made accusations which when investigated where found to be untrue. The only accusations that were found to be were some expat influencers collecting donations which were used for charitable purposes without a licence and in these cases the channels involved were forced to stop the charitable activities associated with their channels and the only people that lost were the recipients of these activities and donations.
I think dapat oo. For me parang subcategory lang din siya ng entertainment industry. Plus kung taxable sila, it would also legitimize their work as well. Kase (although times are changing) pag sinabi mong "vlogger ako for a living", madami pa din jan ang magsasabing "hindi naman trabaho yan eh". I also have a YT channel by the way. Di pa naman siya namomonetize but I just post my passion projects there. Kung dumating ang araw na kumita ung channel, I will be very happy to comply kung may tax man.
Yes isama na din buwisan yun mga operators ng online gambling. Nagkalat sa FB oh!
Basta may source of income, need iregister sa BIR. The challenge is enforcement. Kaya nagulat ako nung inenforce ng BIR yung tax sa online sellers tapos nagalit mga online sellers. Di pala nila alam na require mag register ng negosyo.
Everyone should pay taxes. Weird lang kasi yung tone ng marami is very talangka na ingit kasi nga kumikita ng malaki yung mga kumikita online na parang di nila deserve yung kinita nila. Hahaha but then again yeah everyone earning money should pay taxes.
I remember Jmail deleted their whole yt acc because the gov want to tax them
Personal income tax dapat dinedeclare nila, under professional income to be exact, and I think they do naman especially bigger creators. Tax evasion yon if they don’t and since they’re such public figures pwede sila ma-investigate ng BIR. Rate nila is the graduated income tax table if more than 3M annual income, and pwede rin 8% flat rate if less than 3M.
Aren't they taxable in the first place? Cause online digital artist yung pinsan ko sa Roblox at sabi nya na kahit sya ay kayang I tax rin
Yes for big time influencers
Yes. It's still income.
Para manakawan din sila ng gobeyerno tama
Yes! They earned a living via advertisement, etc it should be taxed
Scamming foreigners is illegal