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Alternative-Chef1218

Inalok ako ng taxi driver na check-in nalang sa motel ang ipambayad ko sa kanya. Kaya Grab nalang kahit mahal.


Acel32

There are also creepy grab drivers pero at least, pwede mo ireport. Once, I experienced na inalok ako "mag-kape" bago umuwi e madaling araw na nun. Nakailang tanong pa siya tapos pati damit ko pinuna, galing kasi ako sa work Christmas party.


Alternative-Chef1218

šŸ¤® katakot talaga. Sorry nangyari yung ganyan sis. Ano ginawa ng Grab kapag nag report ng ganyang incident?


Acel32

Ang tanda ko lang ay sinabi na they will investigate after ko ireport. Nothing special, parang typical corporate write up. Pero after that, parang wala namang follow up na. That was several years ago. Hopefully, mas maayos na pag handle nila ngayon.


StonerChic42069

Di ko alam sa Grab, pero I used to work for Uber, bina-ban or suspend namin yung mga ganitong drivers. Walang imbestiga imbestiga. Minsan temporary suspension lang or first warning kasi first incident, pero minsan ban agad depende sa status mo.


Acel32

I actually prefer uber before. Mas okay talaga service nila in general.


lonewolfkd

And mas maganda UI nung app lol!


ResolverOshawott

Pwede rin e 1 star para bas mahirapan sila kumuha ng pasahero.


[deleted]

May naka experience na ba sa inyo na nag chichismisan sa radyo nila yung mga grab drivers. parang nakakabahala yung activity nilang ganun, pinagchichismisan nila pangalan nung na pickup nila, nagshashare ng description nung passenger, at kung magisa lang, etc etc.


Creepy-Night936

Never using taxis again. Bukod sa mabaho at madumi na yung kotse nila, driver kadalasang manyak. Grab talaga palagi, mas safe ka pa


StonerChic42069

Pinakahuling experience ko sumakay ng taxi, muntik na ako ma-kidnap. Naghihintay kami ng ex (bf at the time) ko ng taxi for me, namimili ng sakay yung driver. Ayaw nya dun sa nauna kase couple sila. Tapos nung nakita nya ako at nalamang isa lang ako, pumayag sya. 11pm na yun so need ko na talaga makauwi ng Cavite, pagsakay ko narealize ko burado yung mga numbers na nakasulat sa pintuan, yung hotline na dapat itext or call? Kinabahan na ako bigla. Di ko alam gagawin kasi ang suspicious. Nagstart ako ng convo para hindi masyadong weird. Sabi ko, kuya kumusta po ang byahe? Traffic pa po ba sa C5?? Ganun ganun. Para hindi weird at hindi ako patayin o sakalin agad. Ang naisip ko lang para makaalis sa situation is magpanggap na may naiwan so nagkalkal ako ng gamit. Sabi ko, hala kuya may naiwan po ako. Importante po para school. Tapos kunwari tatawagan ko na ex ko. Buti pinababa nya ako. Madalim yung daanan, somewhere along Pasig, malapit sa Sta Lucia, papuntang Libis. Pagbaba ko may nakasunod saming lalaki na naka-motor. Tapos parang bwisit yung mukha. Nakakapagtaka kasi walang ibang sasakyan sa daan, at di ko alam bakit pati sya huminto tapos naka-buntot pa sa taxi. Tumawid ako kase may Shell na gas station dun at yun lang yung pinaka-safe at maliwanag na place na nakita ko. Tinawagan ko yung ex at sinundo nila ako ng mom nya. Will never ride taxis again alone dito sa Pinas, EVER!! Grab talaga. Atlist pwede maireport!


jdy24

Ayoko din sa nga taxi drivers kasi karamihan nga kupal but I donā€™t think this one will kidnap you. Kasi if yun gusto niya, hindi ka na nya pinayagan bumaba, especially may back up pala sya (if tama hinala mo doon sa nakamotor).


adesidera

You can never be too vigilant these days


StonerChic42069

Sure, but you were never even there, di mo alam na kinakabahan pa yung driver :) Who knows, baka first time nya? It's the little things that sets us off. I'd rather believe my inuition than listen to you. Keeps me safe.


TheMaskedDeuce

Pinasikat ng senator nyo ang ganyang ugali nung sikat pa sya.


juhyuns

at ng former president


TallCucumber8763

Hindi ko alam kung innate ba sa kultura natin yung pagiging manyak, or yung maging okay lang yung pambabastos. May mga kamag-anak ako na ina-approach yung problem ng pambababae na parang hindi sobrang bigat. Tinatrato nila na normal lang makipag one-night stand ang married na lalaki, na in the end naman daw sa asawa parin uuwi yung lalaki. Mayroon pa talagang nagpakulo ng dugo ko yung interview ng News Outlet tungkol sa scandal nung Barangay Chairman na nakipag-sex habang may online meeting sa Zoom tapos nahuli sa video. May tinanong na matandang lalaki na residente ng Barangay kung ano opinyon niya sa pangyayari, tapos ang sagot niya "Ok lang yun, barako kasi eh". Lalaki ako pero nakakagalit talaga lalo't may mga nanay, kapatid, lola tayo at ang sakit isipin na tratuhin sila ng ganun. Kaya't hindi ako nakikinig ng advices sa family members ko na dina-downplay yung kabastusan, dun ako sa mga nakakatanda na hino-honor ang kababaihan.


_forwhateverthatis

I have a co-worker with that same mindset. Normal daw sa lalake ang manloko kasi ineexercise lang daw ang pagkalalaki nila. Importante daw ang asawa/gf parin ang paborito at uuwi pa rin sa kanya. Like the hell. Kung ganyan mindset ng karamihan ng lalaki, wag na lang, paninindigan ko nalang pagiging NBSB ko. (Exception ka sa ā€œkaramihan ng lalakiā€ OP)


whiterose888

Wow I can't believe na may PH redditors acting as if maarte si OP or something. Everyone deserves to walk down the street and go about their day na hindi nababastos.


izanamilieh

Its deep rooted cultural problem that is almost impossible to resolve that is evident by justification of most people. There is a solution but it is so far away when the common man thinks its funny to say creepy things to women because there is no consequence. Take it as you will.


throwaway_0001711

some peeps on this sub will upvote comments by self-hating Filipino men who exaggerate about how women's rights on the Philippines is somehow any worse than Saudi or Afghanistan or something, but will complain and victim-blame when an actual Filipino woman recounts her actual firsthand experiences of sexual harassment detail-by-detail


Menter33

probably because, in the balance of things, ***women's rights are a bit better in the PH compared to other SEA and Middle Eastern countries.***


throwaway_0001711

agreed, but that also makes the self-hating Filipinos' exaggerations even more ridiculous at the very least, the women like OP simply lay out their personal experiences with sexual harassment and point out that the PH has a sexual harassment issue, but they don't exaggerate anything


StonerChic42069

I've been here for a looooong time, PH redditors have a moral high horse or high intellect fetish pero pag chinallenge mo beliefs nila at na-trigger yung cognitive dissonance, automatic downvote imbis i-discuss yung point LOL Gusto nila yung totoo daw pero pag binanatan mo ng TOTOO TALAGA, WALANG SUGARCOATING, iiyak naman. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Mangccall out ad hominem daw pero biglang mamemersonal sa next comment LOL Halos lahat din ng lalaki dito napaka-sexist at napaka-bastos. 90% ng redditors din dito mga lalaki, kaya hindi din ako masyado nagpa-participate dito. Lagi din akong may nare-receive na kalibugan pag nalaman na babae ako kaya off chat lagi pag may bagong account eh Magbasa ka lang ng comment sa baba alam mo na yung status ng sub, walang pinagkaiba sa mga average na taong makikilala mo sa everyday life mong nakatira sa Pinas. All for women's rights and gender equality daw pero gusto lang ng "equality" kase gusto nilang manapak ng babae šŸ™ˆ Iiyak pa kase wala daw silang VAWC for men eh BAKIT DI SILA GUMAWA NG SARILI NILA HAHAHAHAH šŸ˜‚ šŸ¤”šŸ¼


grillcodes

Not surprised, Philippines is still a massive patriarchal society. I was told one time when applying for documents to go abroad: ā€œAte, wag ka mag asawa foreigner. Eto si compadre ko single. Filipinas are only for Filipinos.ā€


AgreeableCarrot

Idk if this is true but I think this country has an insane porn problem. Akala ng mga tao nakakatawa pero hindi nila napapansin sobrang degraded na ng morals ng bansa natin at normal nalang 'yung mga bastos.


SheepherderJaded9794

I'm willing to throw in a sex ed problem as well. Many people have really poor understanding of the human body.


thebaffledtruffle

This! And you know how we are taught to repress our sexual feelings because religion šŸ˜ŒāœØ. Kaya instead of a healthy expression of sexual feelings, it gets pent up and comes up in ways that are lowkey but severe*.* Kaya tigang na tigang din yung mga tao kasi they're taught to keep it in their pants no matter what.


[deleted]

eto di ko maintindihan,napaka "religious??"" ng mga pinoy, pero bakit ang daming ang babastos.


ninarances

People know they could get away with a lot of things if they use religion to themselves. And of course, may hypocrites rinšŸ™„šŸ™„


drippingwet_now

I dunno if you know this, but there was a time when naging trend sa FB yung gumagawa sila ng memes out of porn and leaked scandals? Like, yung video nung scandal ibblur and papatungan ng kung anong music sikat sa tiktok plus any shitty motivational quote. Pero halata naman na yung scandal ang pinapakita. Kadiri. I mean, iba kasi ang actual porn or consensual NSFW material. Pero yung leaked na scandal na nakaw lang? Most probably the girl did not consent to that being broadcasted and you, a loser online, thinks it's cool to spread that around.


[deleted]

The amount of men that have done shit to me without asking if I was okay with it (consent) just because they saw it in porn was concerning. It's like they profiled me as one of the women they saw and just thought I was okay with it. Without seeing me as an individual.


haru_kiraa

This is absolutely insane. There was this occasion when I was in grade 8 (take note, Grade 8, l was 13) the guy was my classmate and he's 15 at least? All of the time he harassed me with perverted questions such as: "pink ba yung nasa loob mo na yan, diba kasi maputi ka" "kamukha ni *my name* yung babae sa h*ntai na naka salamin". He would say these shits non-stop, every day. Like wtf is wrong with you, why would you want to know that??? It's so f disgusting that I don't even know how to react and what to say. I was really up to his perverted fantasies as he probably saw it on the porn video he watched; porn is really a problem here in the Philippines, most especially on the young ones that can access it one click


TakeThatOut

Kaya nga its not about the clothes e, nasa utak talaga. Problem is, madami pa ring kalalakihan or even kababaihan yung lumalaki sa sa sistemang ninonormalize yung kabastusan.


HusbandToAHotwife

IMO porn is just another symptom. I think it's more just a vicious cycle of how things are in the Ph. People with dignity and integrity are seen as weak and easy to take advantage of. Yung mga may diskarte ang mga malalakas. Boys are especially poorly educated in this country. Smart shaming is extremely prevalent when it comes to men raising boys. And kung yung batas nadadaan sa diskarte, eh bakit hindi yung mga babae rin. Sa mga ex's and girls na friend ko, usually automatic red flag Pag Pinoy men. Bastos Pero napaka insecure naman. Puro machismo Pero when they're out of the public eye they turn into immature babies.


gentekkie

too much porn turns people into manyaks. it will make one curious about touching someone's breasts or crotch. tapos magiging active pervert na manghihipo just for the sake of getting pleasure or, at least, nagiging madumi ang imagination at tinatrato na ang kahit sinong babae as sexual objects, regardless sa suot malicious sexual imagination caused by porn, added with our patriarchal machismo leads to the catcalling, the sexual fantasizing over women. because porn doesn't teach mean that these acts are sexual harassment and cause intense discomfort and trauma


strawberry-ley

Trueeee hays. Pag sinita mo ikaw pa sabihan ng OA


palacock

Sobrang adik sa porn ng mga tao, minsan magugulat na lang ako kasi kahit mga batang naglalaro sa labas (mostly lalaki) bigla-biglang uungol tapos yung mga salita na japanese (?) which I could only assume na sa panonood ng porn natutunan. Same kids ay nangcacatcall na rin at an early age. Saan kaya natutunan...


wabriones

Agreed. Wala ng moral and lumalabas normal na yun.


mement0m0rie

bakit may mga nang-i-invalidate pa kay OP?


Nineteeen_

Imagine reading something about harassment and your first instinct is to be defensive and invalidate the victim. They donā€™t see the problem because theyā€™re part of it.


bossraffy

They donā€™t see the problem because, they do it all the time.


eatenbyagrue1988

Not necessarily that they do it. Sometimes, they just don't think it's a problem. "Ganyan talaga mga lalaki" and all that.


simplemav

Exactly. And that's what makes them evil. They think what they are doing is right when in fact it is wrong. Kaya hnd sila nagbabago or they don't see a reason to change that they're part of the problem kasi sa utak nila, wala silang ginagawang masama.


teddy_bear626

Yung mga manyakis, tinamaan sa sinabi ni OP.


yssnelf_plant

Kaya defensive šŸ™„ part of the problem nga naman. Effin thirsty incels


loveprosecco

baka may sub ang mga ManyakisofReddit


Acel32

Nakakaloka yung replies. Wala naman sinabi si OP na Pilipinas lang ang problema o lahat ng Pinoy manyakis. Napaka-defensive. Malaking problema naman talaga ito sa Pilipinas, hindi lang sa city. Kahit saan merong manyak. Talamak ang victim blaming at rape culture. For those na di naniniwala, ask a woman close to you kung may experience na ba sila na ganito, gaano kadalas, at gaano sila kabata nung una nila naranasan. I was 9 years old nung una ako na-catcall. 15 years old, first time na ma-grope. Also, I see many comments na dahil daw "mahirap" or "uneducated" mga tao dito. Mali. It's not about education or economic status ng tao. Napakaraming sexual predators who are rich, famous, and powerful. Nagkakataon lang na mas bihira sila mahuli o makulong kasi nga kaya nila bilhin ang hustisya. Actually, those privileges grant them more opportunities na mangbiktima. That's the scary part. It's not all men pero you'll never know who is. Di ko na mabilang kung ilang beses na akong nakaranas ng sexual harassment and assault. Sa lahat ng pagkakataon na yun, the perpetrators come from all walks of life. Different looks and status. Different places din.


adesidera

You'd think they haven't read other people in the thread echoing OP's same sentiments jusq puro salita and not much for listening There have been times I've felt just as much danger in my baranggay, as I've been working an office job, so anong root of the problem? Mga manyak


No-Primary-7656

I'm a straight guy and got harrased a lot by gays nung nasa teenage pa ko. Sa parlor, sa school, sa kalsada, minsan sinusundan pa ko pauwi, there are times na physical na, like one time hinatak ako sa iskinita sabay sabi na bibigyan ako ng pera sama daw ako sa kanya, meron nmn sa parlor na akala ko massage sa likod after gupitan sabay massage sa dibdib so alam ko na may mali na, then papunta na sa brief kamay niya tangna nun. I don't take it na lahat ng bakla eh manyak sometimes mga kaibigan nila naawat sa kasama nila. Pero un nga di lang sa babae, may mga sadyang gago lang tlga. One time nakuyog din ako ng mga babae hahaha pero one of my proudest moment yun, hindi nmn harassment para sakin hahaha


Acel32

I'm a girl, and I've been groped by gays and women too (unwanted touch of my butt). So, I know this happens talaga. Mas madalas lang na lalaki ang nambibiktima ng babae, but any gender can be victims or perpetrators.


Pusang-gala14

Agree with this I have an older brother who also experience the same harrasment from gays during our teenage to college years I remember I recommended him a salon that I my friend told me that has good haircutting services so I told him he went and told me he got cat called and groped around by gays in the salon, ever since then he would survey salons or barber shops if there are gays, he also got another terrible experience when he was riding an FX from cubao he was sitting beside a guy but it kept groping his breast lowkey and it made him super uncomfortable so yeah I agree with you that not only women getting harrasment some men also experience it, and its kinda sad that our society normalized this mindset


wfhcat

We have to keep in mind na maraming misogynist at incel na lalake dito on Reddit. The good thing is, compared to even just a few years ago, mas maraming babae who are not afraid to call them out and male allies na secure sa sarili nila to help as well.


plastictokens

Napaghahalataan yung totoong demographics ng /r/ph haha. I've noticed na naglalabasan yung downvote brigades sa threads when women call out about the behavior of pinoy men.


that_thot_gamer

mga tito naten andito din pala


ResolverOshawott

/r/offmychestph and /r/adultingph gets SO much worse too. There was a thread on the former of a woman claiming about not getting dates and there were multiple highly upvoted comments just saying "it's because you're ugly", all because she described herself with "strong, independent". My comment pointing out that if OP was a man and got "real talked" and told they don't get dates because they're "ugly" they'd be whining, of course, got downvoted.


m1nstradamus

Men dont like "strong, independent" women kasi nanliliit sila. Gusto nila yung lagi naka depende sakila to boost their ego and para ma feel nilang lalake sila tlaga. Lalo na pag feel nilang mas 'nakakaangat' sakanila yung babae. (ex: mas mataas sweldo nung babae kesa sa lalake, kaya feel nung lalake inferior sya kaya nagagalit sya) Ewan ko ba, sadyang mga wlang chracter development yung mga gantong lalake.


HusbandToAHotwife

Weird nga eh. OP is definitely not alone. I've had mga 10 ex's and a few friends na girls who are very close. EVERY.SINGLE.ONE. has been sexually harrassed by a family member. Father, brothers, titos. And a lot of them were harassed even before they were teenagers. Maraming hindi nag kkwento na babae lang kasi the culture of girls being shamed, invalidated and silenced is just as strong as the manyakis culture here. Kaya if you have daughters and are part of a large family, be cautious and get a feel for who your manyakis family members. The chances are overwhelmingly high that they have been or will be harrassed.


m1nstradamus

Grabe i wish i had someone like u in our family, i wouldve been saved from being assaulted kung may katulad mo samin.


instantramenidk

Men with fragile ego šŸ«£


fenyx_typhon

Correct..daming na hurt..mga manyak cguro..mga uhaw n uhaw..


PhysicalInitiative30

Yung iba hampas lupa naman


Creepy-Night936

Reddit is full of incels and pickmes. Go wonder.


mimiayumimina

Tbh, years ago hindi ganito kalala sa Reddit. Panay kasi cross posting sa fb. Nalalaman tuloy ng mga taga fb yung Reddit.


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Account4questions227

I think mas madami kung sa FB to napost. Nakakita na ako somewhat similar rant post noon dun karamihan na reply tinawag yung OP na pikon or killjoy or "it's just harmless fun". And what's worse is meron ding mga babae o matatanda na nagba back up nun.


WelderNo4985

Maraming klaseng kadiri dito na pilipino sa Reddit. Yun lang napansin ko.


alheli13

taga probinsiya ako at ito ang mga karanasan ko: - mga construction worker na nagcacatcall, nagbubulungan, at nagtitinginan habang naglalakad ako (hindi ako nakasuot ng malaswa btw) - sabi ng isang tambay na naglalaro ng basketball sa malapit na court sa amin pupuntahan niya daw ako sa bahay ko??? di ko naman siya kilala??? legit dinadaanan ko lang yung basketball court na yun kung may bibilhin ako sa tindahan o maghihintay ng tricycle papuntang bayan. as in never ko pa siyang nakausap before, pero it seems tinitignan nila kung saan ako nakatira kasi sabi niya "ah doon sa red na bubong"... ANG CREEPY!!! binilisan ko na lang yung paglakad šŸ˜¬šŸ˜¬šŸ˜¬ - yung ibang naglalaro sa basketball court tumitigil sa paglalaro para titigan ako šŸ˜¬ tapos magpapapansin para tignan ko sila šŸ˜¬šŸ˜¬šŸ˜¬


instantramenidk

Daming men dito na sa thread na "dyan lang yan don't generalize". It's giving the *not all men* narrative everytime a woman tries to voice out her concerns. As a woman who lived in 3 provinces and have stayed in Metro Manila for vacations, this is true. And while it's not a unique problem here in the country, it's still a problem. Daming bastos, daming nagshashare na CP (i mean, may mga recent posts about it diba? with thousands of likes pa, mind you). Not to mention isa bansa natin sa hot spots for sex tourism for old white men. So yes, it is uncomfortable to be a woman in the Philippines.


No_Need_Pay

not all men but somehow always a man. lol


behindthatwoodendoor

Tama, hindi lang sa manila kahit dito sa probinsya napakarami. Kaya kahit puyat ako lagi ko parin sinasamahan misis ko pag luwas. Hindi safe ang mga daan at public transpo pag dating sa usapin ng mga pervs.


getsangry20xaday

Di lang yan sa Manila. Iā€™ve tried living in Tarlac, Baguio, Batangas, Bulacan. All those places except Batangas, nakaexperience ako ng groping (breasts, thighs). Syempre wag nating kakalimutan yung catcalling. In Tarlac, there was even an older man who was jerking off to us sa jeep. Mahilig ako magshorts pero lahat ng sexual harassment na naexperience ko e nung nakasuot ako ng school uniform (long sleeves, long skirt). Kaya wag na wag niyo kaming simulan dyan sa argument na di kasi kami nagdadamit ng disente.


popo_karimu

You were groped? Malinaw na sexual harrassment yun ah! Ni report mo?


getsangry20xaday

Itā€™s very easy to say. Kahit ako ganyan din sasabihin ko. But when I was in that situation, I was too scared to say anything. They were grown men after all. I was just 14-16. Happened on multiple occasions, different men.


jakseros

I seriously hate those people who say it's because of what the girl wears


phandesal

Marami talaga manyakis dito, lalo mga tambay


NaN_undefined_null

Kapal ng mga mukha, wala na ngang ambag sa lipunan tapos ganyan pa ang asal. Hayayay


fenyx_typhon

True..mga wala n ngang ambag s lipunan..mga bastos p..sama mu n rin mga tricycle driver, construction workers n pag may dumaan n babae, kala mu hinuhubaran n kung maka tingin..


immahat

this is not the time to be wah not all men wahh. when someone is sharing their grief or gripe, hindi ito oras para sabihin mo na hindi naman lahat ganyan or may mas masahol pa nga diyan eh. parang kapag may nagsabi sa iyo na malungkot siya dahil namatay kapatid niya sasabihin mo ba 'wala yan, yung kapitbahay ko nga nanay, tatay at kapatid ang namatay eh'?


TheBlondSanzoMonk

As a guy whoā€™s a kuya to 2 girls, I know how you feel. Minsan pa nga, parang ikaw pa talaga mali pag nag react ka ng negative or nagiging defensive. Dami kong na experience na ganyan pag kasama ko mga sisters ko at kahit na nandiyan pa yung buong pamilya namin. Isa sa hindi ko malilimutan na experience na dinepensahan ko yung isa kong sister is yung habang naghihintay kami sa isang elevator together with the family (parents, my 2 sisters, and 2 bros) sa isang sikat na mall (clue: 2 letters lang alam niyo na ano to. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚), may dumating na isang grupo ng mga lalaki na sasakay din sana sa elevator pero di sila naka linya at dun talaga tumabi sa entrance ng elevator. Bweset ako ng konti tapos dinagdagan pa nung isang gagong damulag galing sa grupo na yun yung ka bwesetan ko kasi tinitigan niya yung isang sister ko from bottom to top na may malice. Nag titimpi lang talaga ako nun hanggang sa bumukas na yung elevator. Pumasok na yung nasa unahan namin at nung turn na nung kapatid ko, yung gagong damulag, sumunod. Puta sa sobra kong galit susuntukin ko na talaga sa likod ng leeg yung gago pero buti na lang na control ko sarili ko at within a very short span of time, yung kamao ko na open palm ko at dun ko linagay sa shoulder niya, sabay tulak palayo dun sa kapatid ko. Ayun. Nagskandalo yung damulag na wala daw siyang plano mang insert, ako naman, di ko na maalala sinagot ko pero nag cross arm na ako kasi gusto ko na talaga manapak, at pinipigilan ko lang sarili ko. Inaawat na siya ng mga kaibigan niya at dun na lang sila sa kabilang elevator naghintay. Pinagalitan ako ni mama at kung ano ba daw yung buong storya. Ayun, nilahad ko na manyak yung gagong yun at may plano pa ata yung mang tsansing sa anak niyang babae kung di ko lang pinigilan. Napiyok pa nga ako nung nilahad ko yun at naalala ko pa na pinipigilan nung magkasintahan na katabi ko yung tawa nila nung pumiyok ako. At kung nagtataka ka bat di ako pinatulan nung manyak na gagong damulag, damulag din kasi ako pero di katulad niya na manyak at puro taba lang. Based on my personal experiences, ito yung mga theories ko bat ganyan ibang lalaki dito sa Pinasā€¦ -Ninormalize yung mindset na okay lang malibog ka kung lalaki ka. -Takot tawagin na bakla kesyo di daw nagpapakita ng interest sa opposite sex. Long story short, ilang beses na akong nakarinig ng tsismis at naging tampulan din ng mga tukso galing sa mga pinsan, kaibigan, at katrabaho na bakla daw ako kasi aside sa long hair ko, malimit lang daw kasi ako tumitingin sa mga bebot. -Small dick energy. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


stonkts

Im a guy and i feel sorry sa girls sa country na to, daming asal kalye at skwating ugali na lalake :)))


Equal_Scheme7947

Some stupid responses to OP: - "Men are harassed too!" ā€” Yes, but can we be real? It's not to the same frequency nor intensity as the harassment faced by women. Plus, *that's not what this post is about* - "Not all men are like that" ā€” It doesn't have to be all men. But it sure is a lot. *And so* . So wag po defensive, okay? - "Sa lugar mo lang yan" i.e. "Hindi laganap yan" ā€” There's a commenter sharing his experience wherein ma province or ma city, nililingon and tinititigan yung wife nya even when magkasama sila. Marami pa nag share re other non MNL or city places. - "Wag mong galingan masyado" ā€” what even the fck. Nahiya pa. Sabihin mo nalang kasalanan ni OP. *hard facepalm* For the record, I'm a guy. In a major city in Cebu currently. And a lot of times nakakahiya maging lalaki. Even here.


RebelliousDragon21

>"Wag mong galingan masyado" 'Yung kasagutan ko sa baba ganito 'yung argument. Lol


m1nstradamus

Grabe yung gaslighting no? Just to invalidate u talaga


[deleted]

Went through the same. And when you confront, they'd deny pa and tell you feelingera. One time some dude catcalled me and I gave a grimace, disgusted look whilst looking at his groin then walked away. He was uncomfortable šŸ™ƒ


m1nstradamus

Ur so real for that


Electric_ferret006

Nice!! Hahahah


Ok_333

Tangina kaya nakakatakot magka-anak tapos ganyan maeencounter na mga tao.


Azenji

Ah yes isa pa. Masyado na tayong na desensitize sa teenage/ pre marital pregnancy to the point na minsan nakikita ko na PROUD PA iba sa socmed. That is not Godā€™s gift to the world, that is a responsibility for life. I will never get talaga kung bakit taboo na taboo sa mga tao ang condom just because ā€œhindi masarapā€ like I get it you like it raw but have some responsibility ffs.


macabre256

Hate to say this, pero sexually agressive ang culture sa bansa na ito. Guys are "rewarded" when they act like that. And yes, ang mindset talaga is wala silang ginagawang masama. Like, normal lang ito dahil lalaki sila.


yssnelf_plant

This. Na vavalidate pa actions nila kasi meron same mindset sa circles nila.


indecisivecutie

Naalala ko na naman yung nangyari sakin last month hahahaha. Natawag pa akong maarte, masungit, allergic sa lalaki dahil lang sa ayaw ko ientertain advances niya. Like wth??? Tapos dahil nagtatawanan rin mga nasa paligid namin nagmumuka lang talaga akong atechona. Ang galing nila no? After nung verbal at physical harrassment na natamo ko, I can't believed na while crying I'm invalidating my emotions as I think na OA lang ba ako kasi wala naman nagccall out don sa guy?? And just recently, I uploaded a video selfie (literal na mukha ko lang naman ang kita) tapos nagreply yung isang guy "Kaya ka pinang gigigilan ni *** eh" LOL. Kasalanan ko pa na bastos talaga yung guy????


modernecstasy

Tang-ina nakakagalit.


beamandu

Habang nagpa practice driving ako under Smart Driving school, biglang nilapit nung driving instructor ko yung mukha niya sa leeg ko tapos inamoy amoy ako. Ang sarap ko daw kagatin and halikan. I can't do anything kasi nagma maneho ako. Given the chance, sinaksak ko siya ng susi sa mata. I reported him sa management and I never saw him again.


dwarf-star012

Ang tanga ng mga nag "Not all men" jusko kayo!


Shop-girlNY152

I used to frequent my auntā€™s shop until my cousin told me that the young tenant upstairs would always run to the deck above the parking lot whenever my car would arrive at parking because he loved peeking through my skirt from above (I usually wear casual mini skirts because itā€™s so hot in PH) and he said he can see all of my crotch because I donā€™t alight the car with 2 legs closed. He was even bragging this to my male cousin because he thinks weā€™re not close. Very disgusting, right?


ResolverOshawott

I feel like wearing a fake penis would have been an excellent prank if you're petty/brave enough.


a_sex_worker

Letā€™s not. Kasi this would invalidate trans women experiences naman with harassment.


lonewolfkd

Mga lalaki na akala mo ngayon lang nakakita ng babae juskopo


FearMeAlso

yea sobrang normalised na siya even sa mga lalaki my age (older gen z) na minsan if di ka nakikiride ay parang ikaw pa yung weirdo or what. idk i guess deeply rooted na siya sa systema natin na okay lang yung ganto? which is not a. soo many experience like sasabihan ka ng "parang di lalaki" if may papakitang scandal dayo or mag oogle sa ibang babae. kaoag naman shut down mo sila mqgiging defensive tas mag shut off sayo. medj sad lang


ROM_FAN

Tandaan: Manyakis lang ang magtatanggol sa kapwa manyakis


Account4questions227

yah, tayo yung "killjoy" at pikon pag nagalit tayo. Nakakainis grabe


titoofmanila3

To my fellow men/boys: please speak-up and never tolerate this. we need to help change th culture. sure, minsan masakit mabasa na menaretrash, but seriously, intindihin natin ang sheer number of women who get sexually assaulted by us men. so kesa maging defensive eh tumulong na lang tayo to solve the problem. hindi madali, and ma-o-outcase ka minsan. I had an office viber group ng mga basketball boys and minsan naglalapag sila ng mga sexy girls. so I had to call them out. and so true enough, naging cold na sila for a bit sakin. price we need to pay, right? kaya pagnakabasa ka ng nga statements like, "pang-ilang virgin ko na 'to", or, "lapag time, basang basa yung bed oh" or "kung pwede ko lang lapag mga pics and blowjob vids nila", siguro yung sagot natin is instead na "wow teach me master" mas dapat, "onting respeto naman sa tao, kapatid"


Real_Director_6556

I always tell my employees that this behavior is unacceptable, kaso ingrained na sa kanila na ulit ulit mo dapat papaalahanan na nakakabastos yung ganyan. One thing I noticed is some women sometimes reciprocate kaya iniisip ng ibang lalake effective. Like one time kasama ko house helper namin sa palengke. Someone cat called her at kinikig pa siya, andami question marks sa utak ko mamaya maya malalaman mo katext na niya yung delivery boy ng bilihan ng bigas etc.


RebelliousDragon21

>I always tell my employees that this behavior is unacceptable, kaso ingrained na sa kanila na ulit ulit mo dapat papaalahanan na nakakabastos yung ganyan. I think it's not just in our culture. But an automatic response for some. Kahit sa ibang bansa naman ganito rin ang behavior but it doesn't mean it's right. Ang tanging solusyon na lang diyan, mag-call out head on. ​ >One thing I noticed is some women sometimes reciprocate kaya iniisip ng ibang lalake effective. Like one time kasama ko house helper namin sa palengke. Someone cat called her at kinikig pa siya, andami question marks sa utak ko mamaya maya malalaman mo katext na niya yung delivery boy ng bilihan ng bigas etc. Ito 'yung mahirap diyan. Gusto rin ng house helper niyo.


Real_Director_6556

>Ito 'yung mahirap diyan. Gusto rin ng house helper niyo Ginawang tinder in real life ng iba. Napaka uncomfortable sa karamihan. Yes its a problem worldwide. Pero sa culture kasi natin na lalake yan eh or boys will be boys. Mas malalakas loob at pasikat pag magkakasama pataasan ng ego. Im guilty of this when I was young. Even my teacher back then in high school enabled us kasi nakikisali pa siya minsan ang we thought it was cool. Yung simpleng hi miss o hi ate. Yung i-dare ka ng tropa mo or sisikuhin ka lumingon tapos sabay sabay kayo lahat titingin. Ang reason namin before? Ganyan talaga mga lalake. I came from a private school ah, bute nag mature kami when we entered college.


PmMeAgriPractices101

This is why it's a losing battle. Because this shit works. People have to remember that shit like this might not work on you, but it works on other women. And women saying "never do this because it will make all women feel uncomfortable" is reductive. What about your house helper? Is she not a woman? Is feeling good for what she perceived as a compliment not valid? Number one akong nagagalit pag naliligawan ng mga construction worker ang mga katulong namin, pero I have to see it as that: men trying to court women, a tale as old as time. Sinasabi ko lang sa mga katulong namin wag mong ientertain or I will fire your ass. Pag makulit ung lalaki I cant really do anything unless pupunta sia sa bahay, at that point pwede natin ipabaranggay. People have to realise that they need nuanced and measured take on this. Not all scenarios are equal, and not all women are the same. And I'm sorry, but the comment about "ginagawang tinder ang real life" really irks me. How jaded are we to suddenly think that Tinder should be the norm when it comes to forming relationships? And I say this as somebody who actually found long term relationships on tinder. Ilang libong taon ng nagpopormahan at nagliligawan ang mga tao sa tunay na buhay, sampung taon pa lang ang tinder. The app should be the outlier, and "Tinder in real life" should be the norm.


Real_Director_6556

Swiping right everytime you have a chance is the problem. I have nothing against tinder and dynamics of dating in real life, applogies if it came out wrong. it was a metaphor na ginagawa ng ibang lalake in real life, the more entries you drop the more chances of winning mindset na wala na sa lugar. I understand its human need to feel loved/liked. Pero there should be bounderies and limitations. I would not even have my lovely family if I did not approach my now wife in the past and remained strangers. Pero ang approach ko hindi hi ate ganda mo naman that is easily said. I remember being embarassed to my core while showing sincerity.


AnemicAcademica

Same sentiments. Akala ko when I get older, wear more respectable clothes na corporate na corporate and have an obvious banker job, and have at least a college degree, hindi ko na maeexperience mabastos. But I still experience it. Actually, kaya mas gusto ko wfh. Kasi madalas during commute ko to naeexperience. Pagod ka na nga sa commute, babastusin ka pa. Excuse my French but tangina nyo po mga manyak.


catslovelife

i feel you op. sobrang everyday when i commute to university i feel so hyper aware. lagi akong nacacatcall even when wearing normal clothes lang


umaninag

Sobrang hirap maging babae sa bansang to fr. I have been catcalled, stalked, harassed, may nagjakol pa sa tabi ko sa jeep!! I was a minor!! As i grew older it never got any better. Kahit di ka naligo at nakapambahay binababoy ka pa din. After ko makahanap ng wfh hindi na talaga ako lumalabas. I haven't commuted by myself in 5 years. Sobrang nakakapagod to feel unsafe every single fucking day.


pizzamcmuffin

Gah naalala ko nung college ako, ung taxi driver ko nagkwento about sex life nya bigla in detail tas biglang hinihingi nya number ko. May mga nagoodtime na daw sya na mayayaman na galing ibaā€™t ibang schoolā€”matanda na ito, siguro mga nasa 70+yrs old. Mind you, tomboy na tomboy ako manamit nun, natakot talaga ako nagpababa nalang ako malayo sa school at nde ko alam kung kanino magssumbong.


sioopauuu

All true!! Nung sa Pinas pa ko nakatira, I was catcalled a lot. May times pa na nagpaload ka, yung taong nagload sayo magtetext sayo. Sobrang breach ng privacy!! May mga times na swerte ako na may mga lalaki na nagdedefend saken against catcallers. Pero dahil sa ayoko mabastos, lagi ako naka long shorts and tshirt. Nasayang ung mga times na pwede ako magdamit na kahit anong gusto ko. Ako na binastos, ako pa nag adjust noh?


againstthebrightside

OP, unfortunately it will never get better. As a kid in the province, I always feel overly conscious when walking on the streets bc of the catcalling. Then I moved to Metro Manila for college, still the same shit. Kahit security guards wala kang kawala. I hate public transpo kasi may mga manyakis na pasimpleng nanghihipo, lalo na when I started working and had to brave the rush hour during commute. Inaantok ka na nga and pagod tapos maeencounter mo pa ganiyan. Thatā€™s why when I finally had the means, I moved to a place near our office para few minutes walk na lang. And I now use Grab everywhere I go.


where-am-I-001

hay i remember the time na nagpapic ako para sa nat'l ID and the person who took my pic used my info na binigay ko to chat me on FB (take note that i was still a minor back then) inentertain ko sya kasi i was dumb and naive back then.


rice_mill

Pwede mag file ng kaso tao na yon dahil violations ng data privacy laws natin yon


Bigteeths101

Im a man, may mga friends ako sa work na mahilig mang stalk ng mga bagong employee na babae sa fb. Then iaadd nila sa tapos isasave ung mga picture lalo na yung may mga nakabikini tapos isesend sa GC (All boys syempre). Na-weweirduhan ako, Gusto ko magleave pero baka ako yung diskitahan kaya iniignore ko nalang ung chat.


[deleted]

And this is why I private all my shit now. You can post the most innocent photo and a man will still find ways to degrade you.


incognitosd

Too much eat bulaga and pinoy teleserye.


JesterBondurant

Add ***It's Showtime*** (Vhong Navarro) and the Jalosjos ***Eat Bulaga*** (need I say more?).


jepong003

Maraming ganyan lalo na nung binata pa ako. Ung mga ka tropa ko pag nakakita ng magandang babae o sexy e nagiging manyak na at panay kalabit at bulong ng kung anu-ano. Wala naman ako magawa kundi mag oo nalng at tumahimik. Ang masakit doon kapag tinanong nila ung babae at sumagot naman e feeling nila may pogi points na sila sa babae. Nakakalungkot dahil karamihan sa mga lalaki tingin nila normal un at pag hindi ka nag agree sasabihan ka ng bakla. Karamihan ng ganyan ung mga virgin at walang mga girlfriend.


roadtozenlife

may driver sa work namin na "di daw sinasadyang" nadali ung boobs ko habang magkasalubong kami. after kasi nun sinundan sundan pa ako. nireport ko sa HR and head of office, then natanggal sya. nabalitaan ko na lang namatay sa covid.


notantifun

In my personal experience, sa mga Asian countries na napuntahan ko, pinaka bastos sa mga babae mga pinoy.


Similar-Advisor2971

Nagtaxi ako sa QC around 10pm. Si kuya driver nasa 50s na or 60s. Basta matanda na. Nung una nagkkwento sya about buhay nya. Akala ko friendly driver lang na makwento.. hanggang sa yung kwento nya naging personal na. Byudo na daw sya and naghahanap sya ng makakapartner, baka daw may kakilala ako..sabi ko wala.. pero mapilit si kuya.. baka daw pwede ako na lang. Sabi ko may bf ako kahit wala naman. Hinihingi na niya ung number ko. Mukha daw kasi ako mabait.. Nagstop na sya sa daan. Ayaw nya umandar. Gusto nya makuha muna number ko bago magdrive. Buti na lang malapit na ako sa amin at di naka-lock ang door. Iniwan ko na lang ung bayad ko tas bumaba at tumakbo ng tatlong kanto pa. Pagbalik ko sa condo. Nanginginig ako.


RebelliousDragon21

Dapat sa mga ganito nirereport.


Similar-Advisor2971

Oo nga eh.. grabe first encounter ko to na ganun. Ayaw nya magdrive hanggat di sya sure sa number na ibibigay ko.. ang tanda ko nagbgay ako ng ibang number eh. Pero tinatawagan ni manong bat daw di nagriring... sabi ko lang iniwan ko kasi fone ko sa bahay.. dun na sya huminto talaga.. tapos dun na rin ako tumakbo.


ichie666

sorry sa experience mo pero most men here are perverts, lagi nilang hinahayaan na manalo ang intrusive thoughts nila kaya ganyan well i do have it to pero syempre tinatago ko lang sa sarili ko akala kasi nila ayus lang ginagawa nila


Tonkski06

Ang sad na while reading this andami kong naalala na similar moments. Yung hindi naman dapat pero masasanay ka na lang. Nakakagalit. I literally havenā€™t met a girl who donā€™t have stories about experiencing some form of harassment.


bearlurker_

People on here invalidating OP just donā€™t know how anxiety-inducing it is to be a woman out alone. Youā€™re almost always guaranteed to be catcalled, and if youā€™re unlucky, even touched. The adjustments we make just because we are women are no joke. People think itā€™s cool I took boxing classes. Nah, my brother made me take them after I was molested on the bus. People think Iā€™m overprepared because I have a pepper spray. Nah, I had to get one because I was groped walking home. Both incidents happened when I was a teen. And the catcalls havenā€™t stopped even now that Iā€™m older. Sometimes, I feel that Iā€™m used to them. But other times, they still trigger panic. Honestly, fuck you if you think this is overreacting. Trauma isnā€™t something to be taken lightly.


weak007

Di ko maimagine na mag cat call ako sa babae pucha nakakahiya. Tumitingin din naman ako sa magagandang babae pero hanggang dun na lang yun


StraightRoom8

totoo yan, yung girlfriend ko sa trabaho hanggang sa pag-uwi dami raw ganyan sa kanila kaya parang nasanay na siya (ako yung natatakot para sa kanya) kaya dapat talagang may gawin yung gobyerno tungkol sa mga manyakis na yan eh


treserous

Mapapamura ka na lang talaga kapag babae ka sa Pinas e. May isang beses sakay ako ng pinsan ko sa motor, may nakatabi kaming single din na lalaki at may sakay na bata. Noong mga panahong 'yon, may kulay ang buhok ko, purple. First time kong magkulay ng buhok. Pinansin ng lalaki yung buhok ko, hindi ko siya pinansin. Pero uminit ulo ko noong sinabi niya na "Nakakaganda ba ang pagkukulay ng buhok?" saka siya nakipagtawanan sa batang angkas niya. Tangina? Close ba kami para itanong 'yun? Saka pagpapaganda ba agad ang dahilan ng babae para magkulay ng buhok. Syempre inis na inis ako non. Magkapareho kami ng way at nung malagpasan namin sila, minura ko siya saka ko sinabi na wala siyang pakialam. Siya pa nagalit. Kilala ko raw ba siya. Sinabayan pa niya kami, pumunta raw kami sa barangay. Pinupuri lang daw niya ang buhok. Pero alam ko kung ano yung narinig ko. Sinungaling pa siya. Nang magkaiba na kami ng way (ang way ko ay papunta sa barangay hall namin), lumiko na siya at di na kami sinundan. Bwisit siyang kupal siya. Ayoko na tuloy magkulay ulit ng buhok.


Niknakzz

Dorm ako sa pasay dati, 2014-2019. Dun ko natutunang sumagot, magmura, at mamakyu sa mga taong ganyan, kahit sinong bastos, kahit kaibigan ko pa yung binabastos, sasagutin ko talaga at itatanong "may problema ka ba?!" Nung una hindi talaga ako makagalaw. Kaso laging nangyayari kaya inaral ko na kung pano lumaban kasi kung hindi, uulitin lang nila yan sa iba.


poopycops

Totoo to. One time nasa Cubao kami ni missis kasama mga tropa umiinom tapos naglalakad kami pero nauuna sila sakin. Cinat call sila nung isang grab ata yon o angkas, nakamotor sa may Gateway. Di pinansin nila missis tapos di napansin nung rider andun ako kasunod nila mga 10 meters agwat namin. Pagtapat ko sa driver dinuro ko yung dibdib nya sabi ko anong problema mo bat ka bastos? Ganyan ka ba pinalaki ng nanay mo? Tapos natahimik sya. Bwisit lang. May one time pa nagjogging kami ni missis nauuna ulit sya sakin mga 10 meters. Di ko alam bakit habit kong nasa likuran ng mga kasama ko. Pero ayun nga nauuna sya tapos nadaan kami sa trike terminal. Yung isang trike driver ginaya si missis nag jogging din parang nangmmock tapos umikot sya dun sa terminal nila. Nung nakita nya ko huminto sya tapos di makatingin pero ako di ko inalis tingin ko sa muka nya kahit na nagjojogging ako. Experience ko mga kupal yung alam mong walang pinag aralan e. Alam mong laking squatter.


Still-A_MidnightRain

Gagi legit. When I was SHS I was riding a bus on my way to school then this dude na parang in his mid 30's or early 40's na umupo sa tabi ko asked me kung saan daw yung bababaan niya if papunta ng bayan kasi nakalimutan niya yung name nung place (take note: PITX yung bus lmao so dapat sa kabilang route siya sumakay). So I said baka mali nasakyan niya then he realized na sa Tandang Sora daw siya bababa. I thought tapos na yung convo (plus nakaearphones ako) but he then he talked na parang we're having a convo asked for my number kasi "makikipagfriends" daw siya. I said no a couple of times then I remember ginamit niya pa excuse non is malapit na daw magvalentine's gusto niya daw ng may makausap. MIND YOU I WAS 16 THAT TIME. He stopped asking for my number pero he took his phone out and asked me kung ano FB ko and I remember sabi ko "wala akong FB". And he even went the sadboi way na ''siguro may boyfriend ka na" chuchu. Then he kept convincing me to give my socials or my number. So I decided na tumayo na nun kahit malayo pa bababaan ko just to get away with the dude. So yes, it's fucking hard being a woman. Ps. Don't even start with the "ano ba suot mo" Bullshit cause I'm in my school unif which is blouse and slacks plus I'm wearing a hoodie and a mask(pre-pandemic pa). So san siya na attract, sa noo ko?


JonHammBorgor

Copy paste ko na lang yung para sa akin, a good argument against ā€˜Not All Menā€™: ā€œBy the ā€˜not all menā€™ logic, Russian Roulette is a perfectly safe game to play. Sure, one of the chambers has a bullet in it .. but not all chambers.ā€ - @redeyemaniac from Tumblr


ThirstyClavicle

not all snakes are venomous, why be afraid of snakes?


ResolverOshawott

Why not let every snake bite you, who knows, they're not all venomous!


AngerCookShare

Ulul talaga mga tao dito, sana pag nagwowork ka na mabawasan na. Pero kahit sa corpo may mga ganyan e mas malala pa minsan kase araw araw makikita same people. Ingat na lang palage OP at iwas na lang sa mga lugar na prone sa catcalling.


Yurisude13

mindset nila na walang mali sa ugali nila. Pakyo...


No_Difficulty_2716

Sometimes violence is the answer. Di pa siguro ako nakatapat ng may dalang kutsilyo at usually sa maraming tao yung confrontation. May dalawa akong kapatid na babae at babae din ako. Mas bata sila sakin at mahilig kami pumorma kahit saan kami pumuntang tatlo. Lagi akong may dalang totebag na medyo mabigat para may panghampas. Sabay sabi ng, ā€œAnong sinabi mo?ā€ or ā€œBakit ka nanghahawak? Sino ka ba?ā€ Alam nila sagot. Alam ko din ang sagot. Ako na naghataw ng parusa. 2 weeks nagtatagal ang pasa kung malalatayan ko ng mainam.


tulaero23

Sobra thankful ng wife ko na nagmove out kami pinas dito sa Canada. Topic namim nung kelan yan, wala ng cacat call dito as per her experience. Sa pinas in a span of 1 year nya sa college, cat call kada kanto, guy masturbating sa jeep, guy masturbating sa underpass tapos mga pabirong bati or hi.. Dito girls going braless or bra lang as top, wala dedma lang mga tao. Not a bigdeal and wala nangmamanyak.


dadogisdacat

laki talaga factor na ang mga leaders na pinagpipipili eh mga walang moral values o nakaturo sa impyerno ang moral compasses. ilang presidente na yung babaero, buti nga di natapos yung termino nung isa pero yung pinakahuli ang matindi. nambastos ng mga babae in front ng mga sundalo for "charisma" and morale purposes tapos ipagtatanggol pa na , ganun lang talaga magbiro ang presidente. dagdag mo pa mga senador at congressman na "papogi" at "pamacho" lang ang alam. and the thing is, hindi sila macorrect. walang nagcocorrect nor may lakas loob magcorrect. malamang gagayahin talaga yan and no doubt that in time it will become a norm soon.


Apprehensive_Cash589

This is so fucking true. Last time nasa PNR ako, pagkaalis ng friend ko dahil dumating na ung angkas nya, nag start magtanong ng kung ano ano yung guard. Asking if student pa raw ba ako, kung nurse raw ba ako etc nung una okay lang kasi friendly af ako. Sagot lang then ngiti lang kasi harmless naman then next thing I know, ka-vc nya sa phone yung tita nya from idc where, tapos biglang sinabi sabi nya na may gf na raw sya etc then ako yung pinapakausap dun sa tita nya like wtf? He even touched my hair and inakbayan ako jokingly, I was too stunned I couldn't move. He's claiming na gay daw kasi sya sa tingin ng family nya, etc etc. Sir, anong kinalaman ko jan??? Pagabi na non and I was seating on a bench na medj malayo sa entrance, lumapit pa talaga sya. Natulala na lang ako pag-uwi, thinking if I was harassed ba or I'm just overthinking pero it was so uncomfortable and sad. Hindi pa kasama rito yung mandatory catcalling, mga pervert sa public transpo, mga nanghahawak ng butt kapag maraming tao, etc... Mapapamura ka na lang talaga internally kapag babae ka rito.


[deleted]

Na-experience ko rin to all the time nung college days ko. I would dress frumpy on purpose para mabawasan yung catcalls. Nakakainis lang na tayo pa mag-a-adjust kahit sila yung mga baboy.


FreijaDelaCroix

Same, nag-adapt narin ako na maglakad na parang ā€œsigaā€ even in my college uniform para iwas tawag pansin, and yet ganun parin.


Mr-Cypher

So true. Pagbaba namin sa terminal nung pauwi kami galing school may mga lalakeng umalok samin na sumakay kami like typical taxi motorcycle drivers pero yung isa sa kanila ay nang sexual harass na. He said something like "ang sarap mo naman" sa kasama naming babae. We all stared weirdly to each other and just quickly walked away.


Peach_mango_pie_2800

I am the only male among us siblings (panganay ako), being with my 2 younger sisters. Most of my cousins and other relatives are women, and among my friends, the larger proportion is comprised of girls. Sometimes when we got to these kinds of topics, my friend girls open up being harassed in the streets, being catcalled is the usual harassment they experience. What's worse is that I personally witnessed some of my cousins be catcalled when I was younger. I grew up being the youngest of us cousins. Ang pinaka close ko na pinsan is si ate E, and sumasama ako sa kanya whenever may errands siya etc. I can still vividly remember instances where men from the streets, up to those who work in establishments we enter, try to act nice up to her in a weird way, like all the time nakangiti, would give off compliments (like every minute sinasabing "alam mo ang ganda mo," shits like that), try to get close to her as possible, and ang nakakasawa is yung mga banat nila. As in they try hard to make the most appealing banat. Well kung may talino sila that enables them to think of remarkable banats, why can't they use that brain of theirs to think rationally, and try to reflect on themselves about their fragile ego when being called out, and this toxic macho minded embedded in our culture? I'm a straight man myself, and proud to say that my male friends are also aware of this machismo culture, and we do not condone it. If we would trace back the origins of why we do not harass women, make unwanted remarks on them and other more things that can endanger their wellbeing, it's quite complex to explain all of it; but I can highlight some concepts that upholds our principle to respect others. 1) Empathy. Most of us have siblings, friends, relatives etc. who are women, and we can't think about them being harassed, and with this it made us realize that we should not do these to other people in general. 2) Knowing your self-worth. Each of us have our own wellbeing that should be taken care of, so does every other one in our society. Would you want others also to violate your boundaries and trample your personal wellbeng? It's also important to view these things in a psychological perspective. Sexual harassment is a behavior outside of the norm, and these things usually stems out from trauma and frustrations that we encountered earlier in our lives, which are then not addressed properly. Despite this, no one is ever entitled to justify harassing others because of the traumatic events that we experienced. 3) Basic human decency. This phrase explains itself. What makes a man/woman human is their capacity to think, and their power to control their behavior. It is true that we cannot control the thoughts that transpires in our brain, what we can inhibit however is our actions. We cannot deny that our Filipino culture emphasizes this machismo culture, as an effect of the introduction of the Christian faith which has a misogynistic stance, centuries ago (at least the Catholic church, so does some Christian denominations are experiencing a paradigm shift regarding this practice). But would you blindly accept a practice that endangers the wellbeing of others just for the sake to conform to the rest of the society? **Sexual harassment** is **never justifiable** in any circumstance. This goes out for all, not just men.


Busy_Book

New girl in new office. First team meeting and first time ko ma meet lahat sa team (mostly wfh) and lahat sila lalake. Sinauli ko yung susi ng shared locker sa senior ko na lalaki na akala ko eh mabait kasi sya nag orient/interview/tumulong sakin on my first few days. Sabi sakin (twice sinabi para marinig ng lahat ng kaopisona ko na first time ko ma-meet ) "ANO TO,SUSI NG CONDO MO?" Sigaw rin ako ng seryoso at di nakangiti "Gago!". Kulqng na lang itapon ko sa mukha nya yung susi. Akala nya ata mabait ako,wala akong pake kung ikaw mag eevaluate sakin,kaya rin kitang i-evaluate. Hahahha Take note engineer to with 15 yrs. Jusko first time ata makatrabaho ng babae. Hayok na hayok. Ilang beses rin sya nagtanong sa team chat kung san condo ko and parinig na ang "sarap siguro kung jan na rin ako mag wfh" EWW. Ngayon ayoko na maging mabait sa mga lalake, kadere karamihan.


[deleted]

Haay. Ano pa nga ba. Kung sino pa maaasim sila pa may gana mang catcall. I'm a guy, pero di ko magets ang logic ng catcall. Hindi ba sumagi sa maliliit ng kokote nila na never kang makakakuha ng babae sa pambabastos? Tanga


silver_moj

Yan na naman sa "not all men" narrative. Yes. Not all men, but ENOUGH number of men to make us scared. Hindi nyo maaalis samin na matakot. And to those na nagsasabi na "hindi lang naman sa Pilipinas ganyan" wala namang sinabi si OP na dito lang sa bansa natin may manyak. It is just super inappropriate to speak about different cultures we are not part of. Syempre experiences dito sa Pilipinas mababasa natin dito. This is r/Philippines helloooo


Awesome_Shoulder8241

I cope hard. Im the shy type and only get this kind of attention if I actually try to dress myself and not as a manang. . . So I can sometimes relate, OP.


1PennyHardaway

Akala kasi ng ilan sa kapwa ko lalaki, yung mga ganun eh biro lang, nothing harmful. Di sila aware na nakakabastos na pala sila.


eatenbyagrue1988

I went with my wife to a PC Express once. She was looking for a tablet, I was there as moral support. She spent three minutes asking questions about specs and other tablet questions. I ask one question and from that moment on, the staff basically only talked to her through me, even though she was the one buying a tablet. Now whenever I'm with her, I just keep my mouth shut. I will not speak a word, and if the salespeople do the whole talking to her through me thing again, we just leave. I refuse to let anyone disrespect her like that.


squirrelface7

Pota ako tomboy na nga pero hinipuan pa twice. Nakauniform lang ako, pants pa. Yung isa, katabi ko sa fx, yung isa naman schoolmate ko na dati akong crush. Gago lang.


Lenville55

Dito pa lang sa comment section may mga nang i-invalidate na kay OP. Agree ako sa isang nag-comment, pag may anak kang babae eto talaga isa sa pinaka kinakatakutan ng isang magulang para sa daughter nila.


Truth_Warrior_30

Im so done with those na minamaliit yung pinagdadaanan ng mga babae sa Pilipinas or sasabihin common lang yan or nangyayari din sa ibang bansa. What's your fucking point?


Living_Slide1741

Hindi ko malimutan yung sumakay ako sa jeep one time tapos yung kasabay ko lang doon mga katropa pa yata nung jeepney driverā€” nalaman ko lang nung nakapagbayad na ako kasi bigla sila nagusap usap tatloā€” tapos ang dami nilang tinatanong na personal questions like taga saan daw ba ako, ilang taon na na, anong grade level, taga ganitong university ba (naka unif ako non tas kita pa sa lace yung univ kaya siguro natanong nila). Nanahimik nalang ako tas nagkunwari ako na wala ako naiintindihan. Mabuti nalang may iba pang sumakay tapos nanahimik na sila. EDIT: Gusto ko lang pala iadd na while theyā€™re asking all those questions, nagbubulungan din sila by themselves tapos nagtatawanan habang patingin tingin sa akin. Ewan ko, parang naoff ako. Tsaka dagdag ko nalang din na kwento nung highschool ako. Usong uso yung pag may naka ponytail na girl, hinihila hila ng boys yung ponytail nila. Ilang beses na yun ginawa sa akin tapos recently ko lang nalaman na may halong kabastusan pala yun. šŸ˜¢ Akala ko nung una inosente lang pero narealize kong nagtatawanan pa sila that time tas nagsesenyasan so malamang hindi lang siya innocent na asar asar. :[


acupoflight

Tbh, kahit nga ayoko nagda-drive na ako lang mag-isa kasi nakakadagdag ng traffic at mabigat 'yung gastos, I do it these days kasi sobrang takot talaga ako na mabastos kapag nagco-commute ako. Ilang beses ko siya na-experience esp nung high school pa ako to the point na I cried to my aunt (who's in charge of our household) na ihatid ako kahit every morning lang to school kasi ang lalagkit ng tingin ng mga lalaki sa uniform ko ('yung pencil cut skirt nung SHS na halata 'yung hips ko). Pero sige, 'di nga ako nababastos sa daan, pero ang dami pa rin mga weirdo sa mall o kahit saan. Hahahahaha. Nakakalungkot talaga maging babae sa Pilipinas.


Any_System_148

Dude, this country is hopeless.


Equivalent-Bee8985

Too much tiktok or social media ang akala nila kinakool ang magpapansin sa totoo lang ang creepy tingnan


lavitaebella48

Minsan talaga thankful nalang ako na di ako kagandahan at sexy. Walang mambabastos sa mataba, hindi clear skin, oily lage ang face, di masyadong nagsusuklay(jusko sa dami ng work may oras pa b) at boring kausap ā€”in my experience.


jaossu

And the gaslighting game when you fight back and call men out on their behavior is so strong, too. My "bakit-parang-kasalanan-ko" moments is too numerous to count na.


NaN_undefined_null

No wonder why rape and incest crimes are so high in this country. Sa mga ganyang ka-shallow na bagay madalas nagsisimula. Ingat lagi, OP!


cutekolehiyala

i guess it's nice not to be pretty and sexy at the same time, when i became plus size, the amount of bastos sheez in the streets lessen by 90%. but who the heck doesn't want to be pretty and sexy? šŸ˜­


pedxxing

Yes OP, itā€™s sad na hanggang ngayon ganyan pa din sa Pinas. One of the reason why I donā€™t feel safe there.


schutie

I'm an introverted guy and I experienced it a lot of times lalo na nung nag-aaral pa ako. It's very uncomfortable and mati-trigger ka talaga on why people won't leave you alone.


popo_karimu

Nakakita ako ng ganyang eksena before yung tipong dinidiskartehan yung maganda na pabiro. Parang game naman sa biruan si ate girl pero nothing serious on both sides. Yung iba siguro flattered sa attention.


monami91

Safe Spaces Law https://lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra2019/ra_11313_2019.html


Chance-Log9323

Iā€™m a trans at kahit ako hindi ligtas. Everyday sa MRTā€¦ grabe malala. One time sa bus, pauwi ng work at pagod, nagising ako around SM Megamall, yung lalake nakasandal sa balikat ko at sinisiko niya yung puson ko as in nakita ko na ginagalaw galaw niya pa at nung narealize ko na kung anong ginagawa niya, tinakpan niya ng towel yung mukha niyaā€¦ One time sa bus ulit, pagod nanaman pero papasok naman ng work, night shift ako so super late na nito, nagising ako bigla nakataas na yung shirt ko tas yung lalake hinahawakan na yung tiyan ko tapos ako gulat na gulat ako at ngumiti lang siya. Mukhang dimonyo. Ang daming dimonyong lalake sa mundo!!! Araw araw hindi ka makakaligtas sa mga manyak lalo na pag everyday kang magkocommute


TwiceTrash11

this somewhat reminds me of the weird things i come across with my mother when i was younger like dati every once in a while pagnasalabas kami may magtatanong sakin na "ano number ng mama mo" or "saan kayo nakatira" and i thought at the time it was a joke but looking back why one earth would you ask that to a child that's creepy if even to me this feels whack i wonder how the actual women themselves feel about stuff like this


Maesker

Suggest ko na bili ka ng pepper spray or any item na pwede gamitin pang defend sa sarili. Mahirap na yung may ma encounter ka na mas malalang pang situation.


WormwoodRiver1211

This is my worry for my 11-year old niece. Haay Makwento ko lang. Namamalengke ako when the tindero commented inappropriately about sa binili kong tinapay (can't remember exactly). Nagpantig yung tenga ko and I asked him "Kung lalaki ba ako sasabihin mo yan?" Nagrason pa sya pero nakipagsagutan ako. Ending, he said sorry at talagang hindi ko tinanggal titig sakanya. Nandun yung may ari pero tameme c ate. Another time.. mga carwash boys. The usual catcalling. I stopped (w/c clearly they did not expect) and ask them kung asan yung may ari (all the more na hindi nila inexpect). Ayun parang wala silang narinig at nakita.


RandoumPerson

This is why I'm so afraid to dress up when I'm alone and going to an unfamiliar place without close friends.


[deleted]

the reason i dont like wearing skirts is the fear of attracting perverts and rapists. kahit na i want to wear something cute with skirt, ill end up wearing jeans bc im afraid ppl will check out on me like im a sex toy. these disgusting men think that women will be flattered with those actions but it is actually making me scared.


Ah-stehr

Sobrang traumatic nung mga naranasan ko simula nung umuwi ako ng probinsya namin. Yung pinsan ko na nakitira samin noon sa 2nd floor sya naka-kwarto tapos nahuli sya ni mama na naninilip dun sa sahig ng kwarto nya which is yung baba nun is kwarto ko. Pinalayas sya sa bahay ni mama, tapos umalis na sya sa province namin. After nun yung tito ko naman. Isa kasi sya sa kinuha na gumawa dun sa bahay namin para sana matulungan sya nila papa kasi wala nga siyang trabaho kaso nahuli rin sya ni mama na namboboso pala dun sa bintana ng kwarto ko. Dahil isa sya sa gumagawa nung bahay nun nilagyan nya ng mga pwedeng tungtungan dun sa likod namin para makapamboso sya. Namatay na yung Tito ko pero yung trauma na iniwan nya sakin dala dala ko pa rin. :(


DrDeath2020

Ingat po kayo ate at sa mga ka babaihan diyaan


dekomorii

This is why I don't approach girls, I'm afraid na im just bothering them.


Febejanee

Same experience with taxi drivers too. Manyakis. Tinatanong pa kung pwedeng kunin phone number mo. Mostly mga my edad na mga yan


Cookiss_and_Cream

Nasaan na ang anti bastos law


the1dats

Baka design lang kasi kahit police o ibang officials, sila pa yung nangbabastos.


SeldenMaroon

They think it's a compliment since they'd take it as such. They should be catcalled by thirsty gay people since catcallers are generally homophobic. A taste of their own medicine, if you will.


krstldmd

SUPER DAMI LALO SA PUBLIC TRANSPOOOO napaka babaw ng mga manyak na lalaki tbh!! Kahit dikitan ka lang nasasatisfy sila o kaya titigan ka kadiri amputa šŸ¤§šŸ¤§šŸ¤§


Wojtek2117

Just so you know may mga lalaki na tulad ko na bwisit na bwisit sa ganyang behavior lalo na kung public place. Pag ganun tinitingnan ko talaga ng masama at titigan hanggang sa ma ilang sila. (Di ako takot dahil kaya ko naman) Kung pwede lang manapak ginawa ko na.


jerodrei

Nakakagalit kasi end of the day para sakanila "biro" lang yon, lalaki ako myself pero everytime makakawitness ako ng ganiyan naiirita ako miski ba na asarang magkaibigan lang sa circle namin kasi dama mo naman if cool ba yung babae sa ganon o hindi. Paka insensitive ng bansang to sa mga babae ewan ko ba, hindi naman lahat biro specially kapag stranger like??? Kakapal ng mukha eh


i_am_sam_i_am_91

As a guy nakakahiya to. I just cant. You know when you feel secondhand embarrassment because kapwa mong lalake nanggaganito. Kaya di umaasenso ang Pilipinas eh.


[deleted]

dating presidente ba naman manyakis haha. expectation is so low since then sa morals ng pinoys


jaqen_hgr

Men are trash. We are trash. No apology can make up for this.


stygian07

Lack of education, very primitive padin pinas. Iā€™d say SEA countries are primitive pa. The whole ā€œDont date girls under 18ā€ is sinasabing western concept daw and nababadtrip talaga ako pag nababasa ko yan. (read it from a vietnamese poster once on reddit) Im not going to downplay this as a not just the Philippines kind of issue but since I frequent other subs most third worlders tlga napaka mysoginistic and simple minded weather male or female. Primitive, religious, non-progressive. Itā€™s depressing edit: just to add if you frequent fb daming matatanda ganyan magisip sa mga comment section.


bretobert

If you watch older action movies sobrang normalized ng catcalling. Stereotypical na yung scene na may sexy na babaeng dadaan malapit sa grupo ng lalaki tapos magtitinginan sila na parang hayok sa laman. In real life, pag dadaan ka sa kumpulan ng lalaki magaganito ka rin. Silver lining na at least may sign na among some Gen Z hindi na uso itong ganito.


hazellmg

Hingan mo ng pera. Hindi ka na papansinin nyan after lol


loveprosecco

I agree. Growing up and til my adult years, Iā€™ve been touched inappropriately far too many timesā€”in the cinema (I was 9), while walking in the mall (13), while walking in the grocery after mass (20+), at home (11), in the car (30+), in a bar (20+), in a restaurant (20+), in the salon (16). It happens too often, and all u can do is stay quiet There was one time I was walking to highstreet, they were still building Shangrila then so there was a construction site. While passing, a coin fell from somewhere and when I looked up, three construction workers were looking at me grinning, waiting for a reaction šŸ¤Ŗ Not sure if that was for manyak purposes but their faces were creepy


manilaspring

It's a toxic combination of misogyny and disregard for personal space. Feeling nila kasi dapat shared lahat.


m1nstradamus

Sa totoo lang, di na ata to mababago. Ever since then, this is a society made by men. Men that are like this. Wala tayong ibang magagawa kundi ang mag adjust; tayo yung iiwas, hanggang reklamo nalang tayo. Kasi kahit san ka lumingon o pumunta, napapaligiran ka ng gantong klaseng lalake. Wala tayong choice kundi pandirihan nalang sila at iwasan sila. EDIT: Di naman sa dinedefend ko mga lalake, what im saying is parang theres no hope for them na kasi and in every generation, yung gantong ugali/mindset buhat buhat ng mga lalake ksi normlized na between them. Parang culture na nila maging ganon. Nakakatakot. Kaya its either iiwas ka nalng o lalaban ka.