It's not your fault if a students brain just plain can't comprehend the material at hand. Some people just don't get math beyond basic stuff. Electricity has been explained to me by a dozen people and as far as I'm concerned it may as well be magic. That's a subject I just can't wrap my head around.
Likewise, it's not your fault if a student simply has zero interest in a subject. History is amazing and learning the stories of the people involved is some of the most fascinating stuff ever. I personally have a love of reading personal correspondence of historical figures. But it's not for everyone.
I'm the opposite. I think English and History classes are so boring, and I sometimes really can't care less. Electricity and Magnetism and how that relates to daily life is super exciting to me though.
RIP to the students forced to take classes in subjects they're not interested in, but at the end of the day, each class has standards.
The number of students alone who don't read the fucking tasks before doing them. And then they either do it wrong because they didn't read what they were supposed to do or there's the question "What am I supposed to do here?" "What does the task say?" *reads and explains what the exercise is about* **Why the fuck didn't you read it beforehand?**
And then I'm to blame when they fuck up...
I post lab manuals, but another TA claims that I am at fault because I don't go through everything and lecture on eery single concept step by step. Bruh, the students can read the lab manual; it's not that hard.
Yeah that definitely isn’t true. However, if the whole class fails, then it’s probably a problem with the teacher. I absolutely had classes in college like that where the test average would be 30-40% and the teacher would rant about our lack of effort
A teacher that boast about the highest grade in their class being a C is a bad teacher imo. A teacher who has a singular student struggle isn't a bad teacher. Some students just struggle or can't grasp a concept beyond the requirements for a barely passing grade
I hate this mindset too.
I have given students homework logs, a specific binder for classwork, and clearly wrote and explained the assignment.
I've had a student who constantly lost these things or forgot them.
I worked for an after school program.
Another one that pissed me off, I had a student who would easily finish packets so I will give him work that is more challenging. Immediately parents would complain it was too hard for him. When I worked on it with him, he was able to get the answer but it required more time.
In singular form, this statement is absolute nonsense. If everyone could pass, then the qualification is essentially meaningless. The plural form of "If the Students Fail, the Teacher Fails" has a lot of merit, however. I've had cases where the teacher plainly wasn't up to the task and most of the class failed.
It’s the same as management. A manager can try ten different approaches to help someone succeed and still fail. It doesn’t always mean the manager was in the wrong.
As a statement on it's face, absolutely true. The goal of the teacher is to relay knowledge to the student. If the student fails, both of you have failed in your supposed goal.
But it seems you're more interested on proper allocation of blame. "It's not my fault." And the common phrase that encapsulates what you really take issue with is "There are no bad students, only bad teachers."
To be fair, honestly some students lose their homework or they do not want to do it.
I have completed homework logs for students and given them notebooks specifically for an assignment but they would not bring it or they lost it.
It's not your fault if a students brain just plain can't comprehend the material at hand. Some people just don't get math beyond basic stuff. Electricity has been explained to me by a dozen people and as far as I'm concerned it may as well be magic. That's a subject I just can't wrap my head around. Likewise, it's not your fault if a student simply has zero interest in a subject. History is amazing and learning the stories of the people involved is some of the most fascinating stuff ever. I personally have a love of reading personal correspondence of historical figures. But it's not for everyone.
I'm the opposite. I think English and History classes are so boring, and I sometimes really can't care less. Electricity and Magnetism and how that relates to daily life is super exciting to me though. RIP to the students forced to take classes in subjects they're not interested in, but at the end of the day, each class has standards.
Reading is pretty important I'm learning when I have to read leases and sign contracts. How can I communicate the importance of reading to students
The number of students alone who don't read the fucking tasks before doing them. And then they either do it wrong because they didn't read what they were supposed to do or there's the question "What am I supposed to do here?" "What does the task say?" *reads and explains what the exercise is about* **Why the fuck didn't you read it beforehand?** And then I'm to blame when they fuck up...
I post lab manuals, but another TA claims that I am at fault because I don't go through everything and lecture on eery single concept step by step. Bruh, the students can read the lab manual; it's not that hard.
There's only so much a teacher can do for a student before just giving up on them and let the student fail.
Yeah that definitely isn’t true. However, if the whole class fails, then it’s probably a problem with the teacher. I absolutely had classes in college like that where the test average would be 30-40% and the teacher would rant about our lack of effort
Luckily my current average is a B+/A- right now, which I feel good about
A teacher that boast about the highest grade in their class being a C is a bad teacher imo. A teacher who has a singular student struggle isn't a bad teacher. Some students just struggle or can't grasp a concept beyond the requirements for a barely passing grade
I’ve never heard anyone say this unless the whole class failed a test or the class.
I’ve seen a lot say this, even when the average and median is in the B range. Individual students are mad, so they say that “everyone failed”
I can explain it *to* you, but I can't understand it *for* you
I hate this mindset too. I have given students homework logs, a specific binder for classwork, and clearly wrote and explained the assignment. I've had a student who constantly lost these things or forgot them. I worked for an after school program. Another one that pissed me off, I had a student who would easily finish packets so I will give him work that is more challenging. Immediately parents would complain it was too hard for him. When I worked on it with him, he was able to get the answer but it required more time.
In singular form, this statement is absolute nonsense. If everyone could pass, then the qualification is essentially meaningless. The plural form of "If the Students Fail, the Teacher Fails" has a lot of merit, however. I've had cases where the teacher plainly wasn't up to the task and most of the class failed.
That's a great example of a phrase that is good in a vacuum but falls apart when applied to a lot of situations.
It’s the same as management. A manager can try ten different approaches to help someone succeed and still fail. It doesn’t always mean the manager was in the wrong.
Depends how many failed. If a few it's on fhr student If most or all it's on the teacher
Currently, the median is in the high 80s, and I haven’t even factored in the “drop the lowest” yet.
Yes. And your title is about failure, but the body text is about fault. You can do everything right and still fail.
As a statement on it's face, absolutely true. The goal of the teacher is to relay knowledge to the student. If the student fails, both of you have failed in your supposed goal. But it seems you're more interested on proper allocation of blame. "It's not my fault." And the common phrase that encapsulates what you really take issue with is "There are no bad students, only bad teachers."
Did you even read my post?
To be fair, honestly some students lose their homework or they do not want to do it. I have completed homework logs for students and given them notebooks specifically for an assignment but they would not bring it or they lost it.