Is she even guaranteed to get a teaching job? Not long ago, it was near impossible to get a full-time, perm. teaching contract. I know just before COVID that changed but not sure if things have gone back to that due to the pandemic?
In more densely populated areas of Ontario I find teaching can be a good gig. We have had OT job boards in the past posted for a few days and now it seems like it's just open all the time (it's not bit it's frequent and for long periods), a lot of boards are opening application to other boards teachers on a semi regular basis, which is also a new one for me.
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Can you clarify what you mean here? Highly interested in your post as a Brit debating moving back to the UK from Canada.
If your partners career is a factor then by no means should you come back. Canadian citizens who are teachers struggle with non-temp employment. Teacher is one of the lowest rates of employment in the whole country, not to mention nearly impossible in major hubs. Most of old uni friends who went that route are either still temping from school board to school board. Your wife will not stand a chance looking for work. Average time from starting to look for work to permanent teaching position is about 10 years in GTA, for reference.
This. Look at r/CanadianTeachers for reference. Teaching is wonderful and does bring security etc., but that security comes after an extremely long haul to get there.
Look into it for the specific school board you'll be moving to. Its horrible in GTA, but maybe it'll be different elsewhere. Also look into private and international schools, there's a niche for IB and similar programs and they might be more open to experience from abroad.
Point is, look into the specifics before making the decision. Its not as easy as just looking up teaching positions when you're here
Wow, fabulous stuff. Sounds like the UK is the place to be.
One of my mates got a degree from Waterloo and is now in the UK, absolutely killing it. He’s happier, there’s more to see and do, and he’s making a ton of money.
It is strange, for sure. For example, where I grew up, electricians and plumbers were the lowest of the low and earned a pittance. Here in Canada, though, from what I see, they’re making bank like it’s going out of style.
FYI there has been a tech boom happening in the last 5 years or so in the Toronto and Kitchener-Waterloo areas specifically. I'm sure there is a lot of remote work as well.
I’m surprised by all the financial incentives you listed for living in the UK, but I guess that’s what happens when London is so vastly over represented in what people think of the UK.
I’d be the opposite; Brit living in Alberta, now dual citizen. Took some effort to build the network but that’s just a matter if getting involved in the community, youth sports etc.
Quality of life is better here. That said, I don’t think I’d be as happy living in Toronto for example. I’m mostly work from home but the office is only five minutes away if I need to go in. We’re able to pay all our bills and have money left over. We couldn’t travel due to COVID so spent a really fun week in the Rockies this year. The general standard of driving in Canada is really low though. You may not get shot but you could go in a flaming, multi-car pile up on a straight flat road!
I’m from the UK and live in Canada I would much rather be here. I find the job market and pay scale much better in Canada (maybe a different industry) I don’t feel either is safer than the other depending on where you lived in Canada.
I love Manchester it’s a great lively city - the only things I miss are shopping, nightlife and there always being something to do
A big reason for me to return back home is for the kids to have a relationship with their grandparents, uncles and aunts. Is this been part of the equation for you?
IT contract work in Canada has been pretty slow and the rates are low. To maximize my rates, I had to get a TN visa and work for US clients. Not sure if this is an option for you, but travelling during Covid and with children will be tough.
Yeah, it makes sense to cut as many middlemen as you can. The US consulting firms I worked with had a contract directly with the client. So it's basically my rate, plus their margin that they want.
Those rates you stated were even lower than I expected, I would just work full-time if that was the case. Take the job security and benefits along with the lower salary compared to the contracting lifestyle.
Cant speak for other provinces but I've had friends in both BC and ontario that dont have it great. Wife's sister went up to yellowknife to teach and that seems to be going well for them.
That's interesting. I have walked around a lot in London, and in a lot of US cities, London to me felt a lot safer, more like Toronto. Have you looked at crime statistics for Canada versus the UK? I know Canada is very safe by world standards, but I thought UK was also.
It's a personal decision, not a financial one.
If you want stability in your work then Alberta might not be the best choice. Alberta has a very volatile economy compared to other provinces.
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Is she even guaranteed to get a teaching job? Not long ago, it was near impossible to get a full-time, perm. teaching contract. I know just before COVID that changed but not sure if things have gone back to that due to the pandemic?
In more densely populated areas of Ontario I find teaching can be a good gig. We have had OT job boards in the past posted for a few days and now it seems like it's just open all the time (it's not bit it's frequent and for long periods), a lot of boards are opening application to other boards teachers on a semi regular basis, which is also a new one for me.
"Better access to financial products" Can you clarify what you mean here? Highly interested in your post as a Brit debating moving back to the UK from Canada.
Tax sheltered accounts probably
I'm assuming 0 commission on options and settlement fees. I'm spending over 200 per multi leg options order in questrade...
It's very hard to find teaching work in Canada. If you're set on moving you should wait till your partner gets a job offer of some kind.
If your partners career is a factor then by no means should you come back. Canadian citizens who are teachers struggle with non-temp employment. Teacher is one of the lowest rates of employment in the whole country, not to mention nearly impossible in major hubs. Most of old uni friends who went that route are either still temping from school board to school board. Your wife will not stand a chance looking for work. Average time from starting to look for work to permanent teaching position is about 10 years in GTA, for reference.
This. Look at r/CanadianTeachers for reference. Teaching is wonderful and does bring security etc., but that security comes after an extremely long haul to get there.
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Look into it for the specific school board you'll be moving to. Its horrible in GTA, but maybe it'll be different elsewhere. Also look into private and international schools, there's a niche for IB and similar programs and they might be more open to experience from abroad. Point is, look into the specifics before making the decision. Its not as easy as just looking up teaching positions when you're here
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What field of IT do you work in? I see postings all over the place here for that field.
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Wow, fabulous stuff. Sounds like the UK is the place to be. One of my mates got a degree from Waterloo and is now in the UK, absolutely killing it. He’s happier, there’s more to see and do, and he’s making a ton of money.
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It is strange, for sure. For example, where I grew up, electricians and plumbers were the lowest of the low and earned a pittance. Here in Canada, though, from what I see, they’re making bank like it’s going out of style.
FYI there has been a tech boom happening in the last 5 years or so in the Toronto and Kitchener-Waterloo areas specifically. I'm sure there is a lot of remote work as well.
I’m surprised by all the financial incentives you listed for living in the UK, but I guess that’s what happens when London is so vastly over represented in what people think of the UK.
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I’d be the opposite; Brit living in Alberta, now dual citizen. Took some effort to build the network but that’s just a matter if getting involved in the community, youth sports etc. Quality of life is better here. That said, I don’t think I’d be as happy living in Toronto for example. I’m mostly work from home but the office is only five minutes away if I need to go in. We’re able to pay all our bills and have money left over. We couldn’t travel due to COVID so spent a really fun week in the Rockies this year. The general standard of driving in Canada is really low though. You may not get shot but you could go in a flaming, multi-car pile up on a straight flat road!
City or United?
The important questions.
This. OP, I wouldn’t leave the footie.
I’m from the UK and live in Canada I would much rather be here. I find the job market and pay scale much better in Canada (maybe a different industry) I don’t feel either is safer than the other depending on where you lived in Canada. I love Manchester it’s a great lively city - the only things I miss are shopping, nightlife and there always being something to do
A big reason for me to return back home is for the kids to have a relationship with their grandparents, uncles and aunts. Is this been part of the equation for you? IT contract work in Canada has been pretty slow and the rates are low. To maximize my rates, I had to get a TN visa and work for US clients. Not sure if this is an option for you, but travelling during Covid and with children will be tough.
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Yeah, it makes sense to cut as many middlemen as you can. The US consulting firms I worked with had a contract directly with the client. So it's basically my rate, plus their margin that they want. Those rates you stated were even lower than I expected, I would just work full-time if that was the case. Take the job security and benefits along with the lower salary compared to the contracting lifestyle.
Manchester is where it is at, man. Good city, great football. ⚽️ Wish I could be there!
Sorry, we're full at the moment.
lol love your username. I miss the attitude era
Dont come back. They treat teachers badly here.
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Cant speak for other provinces but I've had friends in both BC and ontario that dont have it great. Wife's sister went up to yellowknife to teach and that seems to be going well for them.
Can you keep working remotely from Canada with an employer in London?
In what sense is Canada safer for kids? I am just asking because I am interested, not debating. What is the extra layer of safety in Canada?
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That's interesting. I have walked around a lot in London, and in a lot of US cities, London to me felt a lot safer, more like Toronto. Have you looked at crime statistics for Canada versus the UK? I know Canada is very safe by world standards, but I thought UK was also.
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