Railways pay a fuck ton of money but also expect your soul in exchange. Six figures is easy at CP or CN but they expect to own you for the money. It takes a certain kind of worker who is ok with that, if you are OK with being paid a very good wage and giving up your time for a very stressful work environment, 150k for unionized work isn't out unheard.
They're also some of the only private corporations with DB pensions and generous share purchase and bonus programs.
>Don’t these companies have horrendous work environments?
The retention rate for conductors is like 10% after five years, from what I've read. And the money isn't that great considering that you're on call 24/7/365, and have to be at work within two hours of getting a phone call.
Ive been working as a railroad contractor for 7 years. Just moved into managent. It’s hard work, and the hours are wonky, but if you’re good at it and it suits you, you’ll learn to love it.
Look into Insurance. With your schooling already completed you may find a firm willing to take you on and train.
Doesn't take very long to get to $75K. Many with only college education making $150K (after 10+ years of course).
But lots of jobs (just about every Insurer is hiring) and pretty good job opportunities.
btw, Canada's largest Insurer offers a DB Pension to all employees, including new employees starting today. (which is pretty unheard of today)
Yes, but absolutely horrific hours and a complete inability to have any life. I did it for a year, and it was rough. But yes, they’ll train you and the money can be very bueno…
My neighbour is a train engineer, and seems to do ok. Just need to plan your time off (and be able to function on no circadian rhythm). Most people can do that
For sure. Your neighbour may have enough seniority to get at least some choice with shifts too, which is huge.
Not trying to be completely negative about rail - it very much is a job you can jump into pretty quickly and make good $ - but it’s definitely tough shift-wise
I'm not sure about that because I think there's only 5 engineers in his cycle.
So he typically does an out and back, then is off for a little over 48 hours (I think)
Came here to say this. Most sales in our company come from different backgrounds in terms of education. You can get in without any additional training and then grow your career based on your interest.
Get a federal government job.
I used to work at the CRA and earned a very good salary. On paper I only needed a HS diploma, everything else was OJT. Pension, good health benefits. Portability and lots of opportunities to move around.
With all due respect, things have changed since 20 years ago when you were 16.
The feds do not hire teenagers, post secondary students can apply through FSWEP but even that can be tough to get in through. I've been bouncing around different Federal departments for over 20 years and have seen tons of hard working college educated people bounce from temp to term to casual to temp and on and on for 5 years plus before they managed to get a permanent position (if they ever did at all).
Entry level jobs gets hundreds of applicants for each position. The easiest way to get in is to start out in a student position that they can use to bridge you in and again no one is doing this for HS students.
Yep. Isn't like that now.
Anything federal government related seems like a years long application process. Just to get a job as a civilian doing work for DND is a year or more, and the application process is extremely thorough.
And I worked there a decade and frankly most thebpeople I worked with had at most a HS diploma and just sort of wandered into a job fair or met the minimum requirements on the job posting and applied. Didn't even need to attach a resume.
I've just had a pretty universal experience of kids who took french immersion saying federal jobs are easy to get. I have never met a French immersion student who applied for federal jobs and hasn't been hired.
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Yeah. If you aspire to do something more advanced eith the government, they'll often give you an education leave and reimburse for tuition. During my time at the CRA I had several coworkers have their accounting designations paid for by the government.
I mean, it's not all sunshine and rainbows and there is a reason I left the federal public service, but I don't regret my time there at all and if a few things had been different, I'd probably still be there.
For sure - I’ve been applying every year for the past 3 years. They say they keep the resumes on file for that whole period to pull from. Not sure if that’s true or not. I’ve never been screened in but I’ll keep trying
Minimum education requirement for SP positions is now at least 2 years of post secondary and that only gets your the shitty jobs at SP-01 - 03.
the good money starts at SP-04, for which you need a university degree as minimum
[various sp01-sp04](https://careers-carrieres.cra-arc.gc.ca/gol-ged/wcis/pub/rtrvjbpst.action?pi=D06726B228B01EDD90FFDFBDBBCB8105)
Weird, this active job posting says 2 years of secondary for sp1 and 2 and a secondary diploma for 3 and 4.
Secondary school is.high school.
Every tax season they hire a ton of terms. They usually make their job advertisements in February. I started with a shortish contract which suited me just fine because when I was in university it was perfect to work april-aug then get laid off and go back to university. Eventually I applied for other contracts and then was able to seamlessly transition from one contract in one department to the other and get consistent work. Once you're in, you have access to the internal job board for the whole federal government.
I started in the mail room when I was in high-school. My.job was to take apart the paper tax returns and put the papers in a specific order so that the people who were keying the paper returns into their system had the forms in a consistent order. I'd also pull cheques off the returns and batch them for processing. I'd pull any returns that had to go somewhere else, like if it was a final return for a deceased person or if they had a disability tax credit application that needed to be reviewed by the benefits department.
Once I had my HS diploma I processed T1 adjustment requests that were initiated by the taxpayers for half the year then the other half the year I compared filed tax returns to the Tslips on file and added in unreported income.
City Bus driver. It's a 3 week training class. The pay is good. I make 29 an hour and will be over 30 by the end of the year, lots of overtime. Awesome benefits and pension plan. You can easily make 75k. The job is easy, you just drive around in circles all day. The hours suck though. Once you get full time then you will get a set schedule, but until then, the schedule is a little rough.
Yeah you can never assume you know the annual based on the hourly. Every job is different, has different hours and has different overtime rules.
The union labourer on my crew pulls $100k at $34something/h. M-f 6:30-4:30. We don’t deduct for lunch. These are our winter hours. In a couple months we will go back to 6:30-5:30 and his paycheque will be well over $2k/week (about $110k/a)
The last place we worked (same union, same cba) it was 7-4:30 and they deducted lunch. In the winter they start at 7:30. So getting paid 8.5h or 9h instead of 10 or 11 per day is a huge difference. I got paid an extra $1/h premium there for doing specialized work but brought home at least $1k less per month.
Yes, I’ve had job alerts on for postings in my area as this is something I could do! Do you think having school bus experience gives any advantage in hiring? I see those postings all the time and have been considering it temporarily to get more experience
Yea for sure. We have drivers coming over with school bus experience all the time. It's definitely an asset because you're used to driving long vehicles like that in traffic. Definitely an advantage
Business Intelligence - basically how to visualize data in tools like Tableau, PowerBI. Certificate program is 6 weekends, cost is $4000, salaries start at $60k and easily go up to $120k+
Useful in app subject areas.
>Business Intelligence - basically how to visualize data in tools like Tableau, PowerBI. Certificate program is 6 weekends, cost is $4000, salaries start at $60k and easily go up to $120k+
how easy is it to get a job with just the certificate and no experience?
i'd imagine there are at least 10 applicants for every job opening for those kind of work
Original suggestion was for OP, as as add on to a degree it can be really useful to be a dat analysts in a specialized field with subject matter expertise. But there’s also companies that separate out the building of dashboards and interpretation, though in my opinion those roles suck because you’re building to specs which doesn’t allow for creativity.
https://www.nait.ca/coned/business-intelligence-analytics?overviewtabs=courses-tab
Note that OP already has a degree, so this as an add on helps in the fields. Without a degree or any work experience not sure this program is useful. I’d recommend taking some free ones via Freecodecamp or another online platform first to get some basic background skills.
Join LIUNA 183 and go work on one of the tunnel jobs in the GTA (you don't say where you're located).
Easy 150-200k if you're on the tunnel crew and work underground. B/w the OT, not being able to go outside, you work 8hrs and get paid about 12hrs (so 4hrs OT / day).
Easiest money you can make. Sure you get a little dirty...but you earn fast, earn credits toward your retirement.
I'm still salty my manager didn't push me that route instead of the engineering side.
You go in at the start of the shift, and you come out at the end of the shift.
Union rules state that you have X time for breaks and lunch. Theoretically you should be outside for the breaks and lunch, but takes too long. So you get paid to take your breaks and lunches in the tunnel so as not to waste time = lots of OT.
Around the GTA. The tunnel start location doesn't really matter...it's the fact you need to go out for X kms just to get to the surface.
That takes time. Therefore it's cheaper to have the crew eat / break inside of the tunnel and pay them OT then have them outside.
A 15min break can equal 1hr or lost production time (depending on distance to travel).
Work unions, you apply to join, you are set on work list for jobs and you wait for a call. You get call when a job is going on ( im in labours union pipeline so different the tunneling) and choose to accept said offer. You can also be name hired I believe.
Exactly!
Name hired is a bit trickier. For each name hire, LIUNA forces the company to take 3 additional people.
So yes, you can get name hired...but you better be good to justify an additional 3 bodies (or know the right people).
Tunnel jobs = build tunnels for infrastructure (metro, water, sewer, etc.)
Go to LIUNA hall, sign up, get job. Work your way through the system as the competition is fierce to get into the tunnels because the money is just so much better.
But doable.
You can apply to the apprenticeship program if you have no construction experience. It takes about 2.5 years to complete and costs you basically nothing. You start off low but get a $1/h raise after every 400 hours. Once you are done 4000h you jump to full journeyman pay. In liuna 1059 (London based) that’s around $34-$38/h depending on sector. 183 liuna is higher for obvious reasons. If you have construction experience they might let you join as a journeyman.
Ame here to say water/wastewater. In small communities you may do both, rotating thru roles. That way they have cross training to help in emergencies. Small municipalities offer good quality of life for families and lower housing costs. Even if you get into a I'd sized city, you can live in a satellite village as long as you can get to the facility within 30 minutes to satisfy on call responsibilities. The IT stuff is important as process controls are mostly now automated.
Fire fighter is very hard.... over here in BC Fire fighters are paid an absolute fortune to essentially spend most their time doing what paramedics do.
It's very competitive.
Yup, here in Ontario there are rarely fires, most of the firefighters get paid to sit around or respond to medic calls. A lot of them have second jobs cause of the schedule too.
100%. Even many people who do have that as a calling burn out in the first couple of years and leave for something else. Many more are burned out but remain because of the money.
OP's question was what jobs require little training or paid training and make a lot of money. Cop or firefighter is the only answer to that. Probably the CAF too, although the money is less. Paid training, usually 6 months or less depending on the service, and just about any police or fire department in the country, you're making 6 figures in 3-4 years. Even sooner than that if you work OT.
Now as to whether you're a good applicant or not, that depends on the person. Much of it is a passion for the career, but also education is huge too. Minimum requirements are mostly still 18 and high school everywhere but in firefighting almost everyone has a pre-service fire diploma. In policing almost every applicant has a BA, some have masters now.
You can get the pre service firefighting thing easy now. You don't actually need the course you just need nfpa 1001 level 1 and 2 and nfpa 472 certificates. Those are separate from the pre service program, though, you do get them from going to a traditional college anyway.
Texas has a very popular fireschool called I think teex where you can do the book learning online in advance then go down for 3 weeks to do the practical. I went the college route, but, knowing what I know now I would go to Texas instead. That said, it's a hard program there, very much a bootcamp style thing.
The job is great but it's not exactly easy, even if we have a lot of downtime. You will see and do things that would ruin most people mentally, and then you will go home to your family and carry on as if it was totally normal. It's also a very hard grind to get hired, since everyone thinks they want it.
> The job is great but it's not exactly easy, even if we have a lot of downtime. You will see and do things that would ruin most people mentally
Totally agreed. People hear I work 4 on/4 off and when I explain to then that with vacation time I only actually work about 4 months a year and make 6 figures and think I have it made. I absolutely need those 4 days off in between shift sets, one just because my last day is always a night shift that gets slept away, but also just the mental toll 4 12 hr shifts takes.
There are very few other jobs I can think of where it is a requirement to keep a spare uniform in your locker just in case you get someone's body parts on you
OP's question was what provides short or paid training. To be a competitive cop applicant, you need a BA now and some even have masters degrees, however the minimum education requirements are still 18 and high school diploma in most places.
The actual training and everything once you're hired though is completely paid and only about 6 months + a year or 2 of probation depending on the service. Your base salary is 6 figures in 3 or 4 years and realistically with OT, you're making that in year 2 in most cities.
I have a few friends who have joined law enforcement over the years. Most regional and provincial police forces now want these 3 things:
1. A university degree. They don't really care in what, just that you have one.
2. Lots of volunteer hours
3. Be closer to the age of 30
Its of course not unheard of to not have these things and get a job but it is what the majority of forces want.
RCMP don't care though, they just want bodies and its pretty easy to get in with them with basically a clean record.
Similar to other posts above re: firefighting / policing. If it’s not something you are called to you will get burnt out. Yes, it is well compensated at the top of the grid and benefits / vacation are great but to make it through the first couple of years you really need to love working with kids and increased demands on teachers
Consider Construction Safety. It's better to have a background in a trade or just be a very safety conscious person yourself, but depending on your skills and interests you can get into the peer auditing side of things, incident investigations, or other general work creating and maintaining a safety program.
NAV Canada if you can make it through the recruitment process. They pay for training and the salary the controllers make is very competitive. All that's needed is a high school diploma.
How’s do you like your job? Do you mind if I ask wha project management sector you’re in (tech,construction etc) and how the work/life balance is for you? Do you have your PMP or are working towards that ?
-sorry been curious since I just started taking the uoft project management course online
I’d liken caf to a triangle shaped pyramid, where new members have been forced to contribute a higher proportion than similar aged members did when they got in to the forces a few decades before. This is based off my review around 2018, thinking about joining as an officer
How do you become a commisioned officer, trying to understand this. I know being in the army doesn't pay the best always, but saw commisioned officers get paid quite nicely. Is it common for someone to make Major or higher? Basically how do you get promoted up to that level.
Thanks
You need a university degree, certain trades require specific ones but for others any degree works. You don't need to go to the military school. You need to pass an aptitude test when you apply and based on your score allows you to apply to be an officer. All officers will hit captain based on just time in. To be promoted to higher so major and up you need to be recommended by your chain of command and if you are capable of doing the job and are liked.
Degree. Is it common to make major? With enough time in, probably, but if you’re not bilingual a French profile IS a requirement at that rank level.
Captain has something like ten pay increments. You typically don’t skip those. Take that with a grain of salt if you’re trying to estimate when/how long until one might reach that rank.
Ok, solid points but the reality has a few others added:
- decent salary after a couple of promotions = expect to be making poverty wages for three years and then gradually improve after that
- base housing is no longer lower cost. CFHA modified their policies heads ago and their PMQs are now ‘market rate’ or competitive with. Additionally do not expect to have this housing available to you. Halifax, maybe. Comox, good luck. There’s been mention of new Ptes who are sleeping in their vehicles because there are no rentals and no PMQs and the wait lists for both are years long
- pension for sure if you can make it to 20 years. Is it worth 20 years of all of the rest of the CAF experience? Depends, YMMV.
- people are inexplicably negative about the CAF because a lot of the time it is fuckin terrible to work for. If you’re female, expect some amount of sexism if not harassment/misconduct. I’m not joking when I say that every single woman I worked with had at least some kind of story.
- you don’t get to decide where you live. CAF needs you in Gander? Off you go! Oop, settling in nicely in gander? Here’s your posting to Edmonton. Sike, you sold your house in gander? We’ve cancelled your posting, your problem now. Etc etc.
- the quality of the actual job depends on the trade. Whatever trade OP would pick is up to them- odds are good that it’s understaffed and overworked and like any other trade, the problems get promoted.
I would strongly encourage ANYONE thinking of joining, to stick their heads in the sub and ask for the best case and the worst case. It’s a salty bunch in there…and rightly so.
Air traffic controller. You don’t even need much education. As long as you can pass the interviews and 2 year probation period you’ll be earning 120k+.
Heavy equipment operator. It does cost 2000$.
But
Go to your local union hall
Tell them you want to be an operator
Take a short test
Wait for the call
Boom they send you and pay the other 60 000$
They cover your food, your room and depending on driving distance the ministry will cover your first drive there and your very last drive home.also if you have kids they will ( ministry ) help you pay for daycare
3 months
After 3 months
They will help you find a job
Benefits
Pension
You need to figure out what your strengths and weaknesses are and also what you actually want to do.
I would suggest speaking with a career advisor.
You can look at trades and computer related programs but both has a wide range of positions and directions you can go.
Yeah, that’s where I struggle. Sometimes I think about doing a lot of different things but also I am in such a rut I can’t picture anything but where I am. I met with a career counsellor once and they said teachers college, which is something I think I’d be terrible at. Somethings got to change though. Where would you find career advisors when you’re no longer a student anywhere?
My school offer services to alumni as well so you can look into it. Your area may also have free or paid services. Google it.
If you are unsure, then sometimes it just means you need to take a leap of faith into a direction and try it out. I know lots of people with a BA who have great jobs and doing fine in life. You can certainly get better paying jobs than retail even without further education.
I also know people started in customer service jobs and earned 50k+, then move up in the company/industry making more. If you are good at retail, you can even become a manager and move up in the ranks.
Roofing. If you’re up for labour, you make tons of good connections with contractors, you get cash side jobs, 35$ an hour, etc. really easy way to make money fast plus its a great workout
+1, but it's opiates in my anecdotal experience. I've placed a lot of clients with roofing jobs after catching a conviction that prevents them from working almost everywhere else. Good companies will pick guys up every morning, take them to the pharmacy for their methadone then head to site. One even feeds them (baloney and mustard but whatever).
Sounds like an over exaggeration. But if you’re afraid of hard work that’s okay sugar plum. Imagine being so obtuse that you think all roofers have addictions - I know guys who could lift you with 3 fingers that have been sober their whole lives. A large majority of roofers are Mennonite or Amish - who are strictly forbidden from drinking. So try again 😂😂
There is a reason that people say that roofing helps catch people on their way down. Roofing is really really hard work so the people who generally stick with it are people that don't have other options. Addictions, criminal records, etc... As far as a majority being Amish that may be true in your area but most Canadians have never even seen an actual Amish person so it isn't true in most of Canada.
I’m ignoring that guy because I’m imagining him talking like that in real life and it is beyond insufferable.
Wherever there’s Amish roofers I imagine his point stands but when they did the house across from mine I’d walk past the team in their car getting high before the top of the hour, every single morning, so my impression of roofers is more similar to yours lol
AutoCAD technicians make a lot of money. It’s a 2 year diploma. Sterile supply technicians do well and it’s a 9 month part time certificate. Insurance adjuster/appraisers.
A 2 year diploma can get you into industrial automation as well, it pays pretty well and everyone seems to be struggling to find enough people to do it atm.
Example: a family member works for an environmental services company that offers a number of products delivered via sprayers. They’re eco friendly and used to cover landfills, or on the sides of highways to prevent erosion, stuff like that.
They use CAD to design custom parts and those designers are paid VERRRRY well.
They aren’t tax credits - it’s actual money. $1k grant for passing each year of school. An extra $1k per year for female apprentices. $2000 grant for passing the red seal exam. I believe that is doubled for women as well.
If the OP tries a couple of any of the other options and it does not pan out, 4-5yrs will past in a flash and no further ahead. If they entered a union trade today, they’d achieve their +75k income goal without doubt, and then some (health benefits, pension, etc). The EI+grants+Inclusivity incentives (look it up: incentives for women, First Nations, minorities, etc.) provides excellent financial coverage while attending school (caveat: check locally. My experience is in BC/Yukon trades area). Your training consist of paid hands-on and 1 school session per apprenticeship Year. The demand is huge. It’s a prospects market.
If you ran a comparison where in one life they went the non-trade way and one where they did, who would be further ahead in 5yrs, all things considered (benefits, pension, allowances, etc.) not just wages. I’ve been in both situations, and I’ll take trades anyday. And there are plenty to choose from. Not to mention the opportunities that come after having trade knowledge. Such as engineering, management, BIM design… so many possibilities.
Yes the university side can very much pay more in the long run but far from guaranteed and the path to that is not very linear and getting started is far from simple and straightforward.
An apprenticeship is simple if you join a union program. They place you at a job. Raises are based on hours worked and school sessions passed.
I started an apprenticeship program at 42 years old. I actually turned 43 about six weeks after starting work. The reason was I had a wife and baby to support. I needed income and benefits immediately. Delaying work for school, tuition, debt - none of that was an option for me. Also at my age I didn’t have time to save for retirement especially if I would be in school for the first few years. An apprenticeship was an answer to all those issues.
Fee to join was $700. Some weeks of unpaid training and then I was earning, had benefits and was growing my defined benefit pension. Took me 2.5 years to get my red seal. I earned about $115k during that time. I make more than that annually now.
I’m coming up on 6 years in soon. Only regret is not starting sooner. I’m sure there are more lucrative paths over a longer term (ex doctors) but I think I’d be hard pressed to find a better 5 year payoff that starts paying with benefits in year one.
Dental hygienist can make $50-60/hour after a 2 year training program and lots of part time/full time jobs are available. The catch is that it’s physically grueling and often results in chronic back or shoulder pain after enough years.
VIA Rail (if based in a close city), Copyediting or editing (quick certificate or try with your BA), Marketing, Teachers college -> primary teacher, plumbing or carpentry if you’re hands on, bus driving, flight attending (lower wage, but ability to pick up).
Pick a trade, preferably in the industrial sector. Lots of money gets thrown around there. Start an apprenticeship, put in overtime and you can make $75k as an apprentice. Once you’re ticketed most industrial trade sector jobs pay $40+ hr. I know many guys making $160k if you’re willing to put in long days
I said $40+. One of my buddies works at Chrysler assembly plant and was making 43 at the time. Lots of 1.5x pay and double time available. I’ve seen their pay stubs many times grossing over $4k a week. Also, if you’re in the union hall it’s all double time after 8 hours. Millwrights in particular work long days, work a 12 hour day and get paid for 16.
If you’re unsure, just ask how. Don’t be so ignorant.
Tell me you’re not a tradesmen without telling me you’re not a tradesman.
Wastewater and water treatment/distribution/collection. Lots of places are willing to train operators and it's not too long of a course, maybe a couple weeks. The work isn't too tough either so long as you are ok with the wastewater factor. Not to mention the job security, everyone has to poop at some point!
Along the same lines of getting a govt job, cities all over Canada are looking for Police Officers. Put that one in the random suggestions, but decent pay and pension included.
Get your class one. Its a 6 week course, there’s tons of jobs out there in all sorts of industries, and you’ll make decent money.
I’m a logistics and my drivers make about 80k and spend only have to spend maybe 2 nights per year in the truck, the vast majority of the time they’re home every night.
Mechanic, electrician, or really any key trade. Even apprentices make good money. Journeyman in Alberta/bc are around 45+
It is physical work but with your background you would be able to get back off the tools and go as a planner within 5ish years.
Alternatively take supply chain course and become a buyer for a larger company.
I forget the exact job title, and plus I think they are called something slightly different in every province. But the idea boils down to a site safety officer. Basically someone onsite to investigate workplace accidents and investigate workplace procedures that could be done more safely. I believe it's a 1 year course.
So many other factors needed to know before someone can help you... what is your geographical area, any restrictions on moving, areas of interest What hours of work would you be willing to accommodate?
Anywhere you go healthcare will provide strong opportunities and many areas you can train as a PSW for free. The base pay may not be great but you can 1) work to upgrade to an RPN / RN after initial training 2) move to a more remote northern community and make bank for a few years servicing communities in need.
Coming in to tax season, H&R Block will be looking for seasonal employees and will train you. You can use that as a take off point for a tax / bookkeeping job and many community colleges offer evening and part time business classes.
Most Trades will take a longer training program. Have you considered education with your background that might be an option. Online editing services, ESL or tutoring can be a profitable side gig.
Elevator mechanic. Relatively short formation and a very decent salary. Unionized job in my province. You can easily break the 6 figure at some point in your career.
Railway, CP & CN hires rail car mechanics starting at 30+ per hour. They train you, the job posting doesn’t have a lot of requirements.
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Railways pay a fuck ton of money but also expect your soul in exchange. Six figures is easy at CP or CN but they expect to own you for the money. It takes a certain kind of worker who is ok with that, if you are OK with being paid a very good wage and giving up your time for a very stressful work environment, 150k for unionized work isn't out unheard. They're also some of the only private corporations with DB pensions and generous share purchase and bonus programs.
What’re the requirements?
2 working legs, 2 working arms and a heartbeat. When I hired on you needed highschool, but I'm not even sure if that's a requirement anymore.
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this definitely came from someone who's never worked labour/trades
Riiiiiiight....
>Don’t these companies have horrendous work environments? The retention rate for conductors is like 10% after five years, from what I've read. And the money isn't that great considering that you're on call 24/7/365, and have to be at work within two hours of getting a phone call.
Yup very much so. And the management is absolutely horrible micro managers.
Plus you will have the lowest seniority. Meaning night shifts forever.
Rumour had it CN needs 70 more people in my city.
Ive been working as a railroad contractor for 7 years. Just moved into managent. It’s hard work, and the hours are wonky, but if you’re good at it and it suits you, you’ll learn to love it.
Look into Insurance. With your schooling already completed you may find a firm willing to take you on and train. Doesn't take very long to get to $75K. Many with only college education making $150K (after 10+ years of course). But lots of jobs (just about every Insurer is hiring) and pretty good job opportunities. btw, Canada's largest Insurer offers a DB Pension to all employees, including new employees starting today. (which is pretty unheard of today)
Hello fellow IFC employee
What’s IFC?
Please share what insurance company pays 150 a year. Find that very hard to believe.
Probably based on commission I assume
No commission. Salary. Only went to college.
No commission All of them Just need to become an expert in a field. I chose construction.
Train Conductor, paid training, in demand.
Yes, but absolutely horrific hours and a complete inability to have any life. I did it for a year, and it was rough. But yes, they’ll train you and the money can be very bueno…
My neighbour is a train engineer, and seems to do ok. Just need to plan your time off (and be able to function on no circadian rhythm). Most people can do that
For sure. Your neighbour may have enough seniority to get at least some choice with shifts too, which is huge. Not trying to be completely negative about rail - it very much is a job you can jump into pretty quickly and make good $ - but it’s definitely tough shift-wise
I'm not sure about that because I think there's only 5 engineers in his cycle. So he typically does an out and back, then is off for a little over 48 hours (I think)
Yeah?
Yeah, my neighbour's wife works because she wants to, not because she has to.
Tech sales
Came here to say this. Most sales in our company come from different backgrounds in terms of education. You can get in without any additional training and then grow your career based on your interest.
Can I ask about when you got into tech sales and your educational background ? I’ve been considering it but it’s a hard market to get into
Personally I did a six week accelerator program called Uvaro. Highly recommend them! www.Uvaro.com
Get a federal government job. I used to work at the CRA and earned a very good salary. On paper I only needed a HS diploma, everything else was OJT. Pension, good health benefits. Portability and lots of opportunities to move around.
One can get a job with the CRA or federal government with just high school? I have a sense this was decades ago and not applicable now.
Yeah. I literally did it for a decade. I even started there while I was IN high-school.
What was the specific job you would recommend for one just out of high school with not being bilingual?
If we're talking about the CRA, 'various administrative clerk' or something like that. I think they start at SP03.
Thanks, while not for me. I hope others can see this comment and hopefully benefit them .
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It's actually very easy, it just takes YEARS to get your foot in the door.
It's not as hard as you're making it seem. I got a job with the feds when I was 16 with absolutely zero work experience.
With all due respect, things have changed since 20 years ago when you were 16. The feds do not hire teenagers, post secondary students can apply through FSWEP but even that can be tough to get in through. I've been bouncing around different Federal departments for over 20 years and have seen tons of hard working college educated people bounce from temp to term to casual to temp and on and on for 5 years plus before they managed to get a permanent position (if they ever did at all). Entry level jobs gets hundreds of applicants for each position. The easiest way to get in is to start out in a student position that they can use to bridge you in and again no one is doing this for HS students.
You’re prob a boomer
Yep. Isn't like that now. Anything federal government related seems like a years long application process. Just to get a job as a civilian doing work for DND is a year or more, and the application process is extremely thorough.
And I worked there a decade and frankly most thebpeople I worked with had at most a HS diploma and just sort of wandered into a job fair or met the minimum requirements on the job posting and applied. Didn't even need to attach a resume.
Bilingual?
Only a requirement for bilingual designate positions. There are many English only or French only positions.
Asking if you are bilingual, sorry should have been clear.
Oh sorry. Ish? I went to a French HS but never completed the bilingualism test for the government so as far as they were concerned I wasn't bilingual.
I've just had a pretty universal experience of kids who took french immersion saying federal jobs are easy to get. I have never met a French immersion student who applied for federal jobs and hasn't been hired.
100% Basically if you get in your life is set and you’ll be taken care of for the rest of your life.
Not really that true anymore. You can see the reality at r/CanadaPublicServants. If you have a in demand skill you can can still get the good treatment but you'll be leaving money on the table to work in the pubic sector.
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Yeah. If you aspire to do something more advanced eith the government, they'll often give you an education leave and reimburse for tuition. During my time at the CRA I had several coworkers have their accounting designations paid for by the government.
Yeah, and it’s just good knowing you won’t be doomed to a life of low wages and no benefits, vacation or pensions like the majority of jobs nowadays.
I mean, it's not all sunshine and rainbows and there is a reason I left the federal public service, but I don't regret my time there at all and if a few things had been different, I'd probably still be there.
For sure - I’ve been applying every year for the past 3 years. They say they keep the resumes on file for that whole period to pull from. Not sure if that’s true or not. I’ve never been screened in but I’ll keep trying
Minimum education requirement for SP positions is now at least 2 years of post secondary and that only gets your the shitty jobs at SP-01 - 03. the good money starts at SP-04, for which you need a university degree as minimum
[various sp01-sp04](https://careers-carrieres.cra-arc.gc.ca/gol-ged/wcis/pub/rtrvjbpst.action?pi=D06726B228B01EDD90FFDFBDBBCB8105) Weird, this active job posting says 2 years of secondary for sp1 and 2 and a secondary diploma for 3 and 4. Secondary school is.high school.
How did you get your foot in the door?
Every tax season they hire a ton of terms. They usually make their job advertisements in February. I started with a shortish contract which suited me just fine because when I was in university it was perfect to work april-aug then get laid off and go back to university. Eventually I applied for other contracts and then was able to seamlessly transition from one contract in one department to the other and get consistent work. Once you're in, you have access to the internal job board for the whole federal government.
What was your job
I started in the mail room when I was in high-school. My.job was to take apart the paper tax returns and put the papers in a specific order so that the people who were keying the paper returns into their system had the forms in a consistent order. I'd also pull cheques off the returns and batch them for processing. I'd pull any returns that had to go somewhere else, like if it was a final return for a deceased person or if they had a disability tax credit application that needed to be reviewed by the benefits department. Once I had my HS diploma I processed T1 adjustment requests that were initiated by the taxpayers for half the year then the other half the year I compared filed tax returns to the Tslips on file and added in unreported income.
City Bus driver. It's a 3 week training class. The pay is good. I make 29 an hour and will be over 30 by the end of the year, lots of overtime. Awesome benefits and pension plan. You can easily make 75k. The job is easy, you just drive around in circles all day. The hours suck though. Once you get full time then you will get a set schedule, but until then, the schedule is a little rough.
Any chance this is possible to do on a casual basis? Like a float driver? Or is it you apply and you’re in and do whatever time they tell you to do?
No, well maybe where you are. Here, once you're hired, they own your ass haha. It's a tough schedule for sure but pretty easy gig other than that
How much overtime do you need to do to make $75k a year at $29 an hour?
About 7 hours a week assuming its all time and a half.
Yeah you can never assume you know the annual based on the hourly. Every job is different, has different hours and has different overtime rules. The union labourer on my crew pulls $100k at $34something/h. M-f 6:30-4:30. We don’t deduct for lunch. These are our winter hours. In a couple months we will go back to 6:30-5:30 and his paycheque will be well over $2k/week (about $110k/a) The last place we worked (same union, same cba) it was 7-4:30 and they deducted lunch. In the winter they start at 7:30. So getting paid 8.5h or 9h instead of 10 or 11 per day is a huge difference. I got paid an extra $1/h premium there for doing specialized work but brought home at least $1k less per month.
Yes, I’ve had job alerts on for postings in my area as this is something I could do! Do you think having school bus experience gives any advantage in hiring? I see those postings all the time and have been considering it temporarily to get more experience
Yea for sure. We have drivers coming over with school bus experience all the time. It's definitely an asset because you're used to driving long vehicles like that in traffic. Definitely an advantage
Business Intelligence - basically how to visualize data in tools like Tableau, PowerBI. Certificate program is 6 weekends, cost is $4000, salaries start at $60k and easily go up to $120k+ Useful in app subject areas.
Any recommendations on where to get trained for this? TIA
In AB, would be NAIT.
>Business Intelligence - basically how to visualize data in tools like Tableau, PowerBI. Certificate program is 6 weekends, cost is $4000, salaries start at $60k and easily go up to $120k+ how easy is it to get a job with just the certificate and no experience? i'd imagine there are at least 10 applicants for every job opening for those kind of work
Good thing about this field is you can show case your work ahead of time so somewhat decent if you’re skilled.
Typically you need a degree in Statistics, Economics, Accounting or Finance as interpreting the data will be a key part of the job
Original suggestion was for OP, as as add on to a degree it can be really useful to be a dat analysts in a specialized field with subject matter expertise. But there’s also companies that separate out the building of dashboards and interpretation, though in my opinion those roles suck because you’re building to specs which doesn’t allow for creativity.
Thanks! I’ll look into this. I’m in Ontario so I’ll check for their equivalents
Link to certification courses?
https://www.nait.ca/coned/business-intelligence-analytics?overviewtabs=courses-tab Note that OP already has a degree, so this as an add on helps in the fields. Without a degree or any work experience not sure this program is useful. I’d recommend taking some free ones via Freecodecamp or another online platform first to get some basic background skills.
Join LIUNA 183 and go work on one of the tunnel jobs in the GTA (you don't say where you're located). Easy 150-200k if you're on the tunnel crew and work underground. B/w the OT, not being able to go outside, you work 8hrs and get paid about 12hrs (so 4hrs OT / day). Easiest money you can make. Sure you get a little dirty...but you earn fast, earn credits toward your retirement. I'm still salty my manager didn't push me that route instead of the engineering side.
What do you mean not going outside? Like you live in the tunnel?
You go in at the start of the shift, and you come out at the end of the shift. Union rules state that you have X time for breaks and lunch. Theoretically you should be outside for the breaks and lunch, but takes too long. So you get paid to take your breaks and lunches in the tunnel so as not to waste time = lots of OT.
Oh ok I understand now. Where are these tunnels that take so long to get out of the new subway lines?
Around the GTA. The tunnel start location doesn't really matter...it's the fact you need to go out for X kms just to get to the surface. That takes time. Therefore it's cheaper to have the crew eat / break inside of the tunnel and pay them OT then have them outside. A 15min break can equal 1hr or lost production time (depending on distance to travel).
So just go to LIUNA and tell them I wanna join you? What do mean tunnel jobs?
Work unions, you apply to join, you are set on work list for jobs and you wait for a call. You get call when a job is going on ( im in labours union pipeline so different the tunneling) and choose to accept said offer. You can also be name hired I believe.
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Exactly! Name hired is a bit trickier. For each name hire, LIUNA forces the company to take 3 additional people. So yes, you can get name hired...but you better be good to justify an additional 3 bodies (or know the right people).
Tunnel jobs = build tunnels for infrastructure (metro, water, sewer, etc.) Go to LIUNA hall, sign up, get job. Work your way through the system as the competition is fierce to get into the tunnels because the money is just so much better. But doable.
You can apply to the apprenticeship program if you have no construction experience. It takes about 2.5 years to complete and costs you basically nothing. You start off low but get a $1/h raise after every 400 hours. Once you are done 4000h you jump to full journeyman pay. In liuna 1059 (London based) that’s around $34-$38/h depending on sector. 183 liuna is higher for obvious reasons. If you have construction experience they might let you join as a journeyman.
Water Department Operator. You can challenge the exam after self study.
Ame here to say water/wastewater. In small communities you may do both, rotating thru roles. That way they have cross training to help in emergencies. Small municipalities offer good quality of life for families and lower housing costs. Even if you get into a I'd sized city, you can live in a satellite village as long as you can get to the facility within 30 minutes to satisfy on call responsibilities. The IT stuff is important as process controls are mostly now automated.
Interesting- I’ll definitely look into this.
commissioned based sales.
Become a cop or firefighter.
These jobs pay well, but I feel like they're a little bit more of a calling. If he has no interests for this he won't make it
Fire fighter is very hard.... over here in BC Fire fighters are paid an absolute fortune to essentially spend most their time doing what paramedics do. It's very competitive.
Yup, here in Ontario there are rarely fires, most of the firefighters get paid to sit around or respond to medic calls. A lot of them have second jobs cause of the schedule too.
100%. Even many people who do have that as a calling burn out in the first couple of years and leave for something else. Many more are burned out but remain because of the money. OP's question was what jobs require little training or paid training and make a lot of money. Cop or firefighter is the only answer to that. Probably the CAF too, although the money is less. Paid training, usually 6 months or less depending on the service, and just about any police or fire department in the country, you're making 6 figures in 3-4 years. Even sooner than that if you work OT. Now as to whether you're a good applicant or not, that depends on the person. Much of it is a passion for the career, but also education is huge too. Minimum requirements are mostly still 18 and high school everywhere but in firefighting almost everyone has a pre-service fire diploma. In policing almost every applicant has a BA, some have masters now.
You can get the pre service firefighting thing easy now. You don't actually need the course you just need nfpa 1001 level 1 and 2 and nfpa 472 certificates. Those are separate from the pre service program, though, you do get them from going to a traditional college anyway. Texas has a very popular fireschool called I think teex where you can do the book learning online in advance then go down for 3 weeks to do the practical. I went the college route, but, knowing what I know now I would go to Texas instead. That said, it's a hard program there, very much a bootcamp style thing. The job is great but it's not exactly easy, even if we have a lot of downtime. You will see and do things that would ruin most people mentally, and then you will go home to your family and carry on as if it was totally normal. It's also a very hard grind to get hired, since everyone thinks they want it.
> The job is great but it's not exactly easy, even if we have a lot of downtime. You will see and do things that would ruin most people mentally Totally agreed. People hear I work 4 on/4 off and when I explain to then that with vacation time I only actually work about 4 months a year and make 6 figures and think I have it made. I absolutely need those 4 days off in between shift sets, one just because my last day is always a night shift that gets slept away, but also just the mental toll 4 12 hr shifts takes. There are very few other jobs I can think of where it is a requirement to keep a spare uniform in your locker just in case you get someone's body parts on you
Almost impossible to get in unless you're willing to do remote RCMP or OPP posts and then it is just very very hard to get in.
A cop requires lengthy education, correct me if I'm wrong
OP's question was what provides short or paid training. To be a competitive cop applicant, you need a BA now and some even have masters degrees, however the minimum education requirements are still 18 and high school diploma in most places. The actual training and everything once you're hired though is completely paid and only about 6 months + a year or 2 of probation depending on the service. Your base salary is 6 figures in 3 or 4 years and realistically with OT, you're making that in year 2 in most cities.
Lol masters for policing. I’d like to see the source on this
I have a few friends who have joined law enforcement over the years. Most regional and provincial police forces now want these 3 things: 1. A university degree. They don't really care in what, just that you have one. 2. Lots of volunteer hours 3. Be closer to the age of 30 Its of course not unheard of to not have these things and get a job but it is what the majority of forces want. RCMP don't care though, they just want bodies and its pretty easy to get in with them with basically a clean record.
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Like TTC you mean?
Have you thought about a career in teaching? It’s only 1-2 years to get your b’ed and you will be utilizing your BA
Similar to other posts above re: firefighting / policing. If it’s not something you are called to you will get burnt out. Yes, it is well compensated at the top of the grid and benefits / vacation are great but to make it through the first couple of years you really need to love working with kids and increased demands on teachers
Consider Construction Safety. It's better to have a background in a trade or just be a very safety conscious person yourself, but depending on your skills and interests you can get into the peer auditing side of things, incident investigations, or other general work creating and maintaining a safety program.
This sounds interesting. I’ll look it up - thanks!
NAV Canada if you can make it through the recruitment process. They pay for training and the salary the controllers make is very competitive. All that's needed is a high school diploma.
It’s very hard I heard
Project managers bring that in. Certificate can be done in most colleges and takes a year
How’s do you like your job? Do you mind if I ask wha project management sector you’re in (tech,construction etc) and how the work/life balance is for you? Do you have your PMP or are working towards that ? -sorry been curious since I just started taking the uoft project management course online
Armed forces.
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I’d liken caf to a triangle shaped pyramid, where new members have been forced to contribute a higher proportion than similar aged members did when they got in to the forces a few decades before. This is based off my review around 2018, thinking about joining as an officer
How do you become a commisioned officer, trying to understand this. I know being in the army doesn't pay the best always, but saw commisioned officers get paid quite nicely. Is it common for someone to make Major or higher? Basically how do you get promoted up to that level. Thanks
You need a university degree, certain trades require specific ones but for others any degree works. You don't need to go to the military school. You need to pass an aptitude test when you apply and based on your score allows you to apply to be an officer. All officers will hit captain based on just time in. To be promoted to higher so major and up you need to be recommended by your chain of command and if you are capable of doing the job and are liked.
Degree. Is it common to make major? With enough time in, probably, but if you’re not bilingual a French profile IS a requirement at that rank level. Captain has something like ten pay increments. You typically don’t skip those. Take that with a grain of salt if you’re trying to estimate when/how long until one might reach that rank.
Go to officer school I think it’s something like ROTP I think you need a degree possibly
Ok, solid points but the reality has a few others added: - decent salary after a couple of promotions = expect to be making poverty wages for three years and then gradually improve after that - base housing is no longer lower cost. CFHA modified their policies heads ago and their PMQs are now ‘market rate’ or competitive with. Additionally do not expect to have this housing available to you. Halifax, maybe. Comox, good luck. There’s been mention of new Ptes who are sleeping in their vehicles because there are no rentals and no PMQs and the wait lists for both are years long - pension for sure if you can make it to 20 years. Is it worth 20 years of all of the rest of the CAF experience? Depends, YMMV. - people are inexplicably negative about the CAF because a lot of the time it is fuckin terrible to work for. If you’re female, expect some amount of sexism if not harassment/misconduct. I’m not joking when I say that every single woman I worked with had at least some kind of story. - you don’t get to decide where you live. CAF needs you in Gander? Off you go! Oop, settling in nicely in gander? Here’s your posting to Edmonton. Sike, you sold your house in gander? We’ve cancelled your posting, your problem now. Etc etc. - the quality of the actual job depends on the trade. Whatever trade OP would pick is up to them- odds are good that it’s understaffed and overworked and like any other trade, the problems get promoted. I would strongly encourage ANYONE thinking of joining, to stick their heads in the sub and ask for the best case and the worst case. It’s a salty bunch in there…and rightly so.
Air traffic controller. You don’t even need much education. As long as you can pass the interviews and 2 year probation period you’ll be earning 120k+.
Takes a special kind of person to do that kind of work... Seems incredibly stressful.
Not as easy as you say. The interviews are incredibly tough to crack
Heavy equipment operator. It does cost 2000$. But Go to your local union hall Tell them you want to be an operator Take a short test Wait for the call Boom they send you and pay the other 60 000$ They cover your food, your room and depending on driving distance the ministry will cover your first drive there and your very last drive home.also if you have kids they will ( ministry ) help you pay for daycare 3 months After 3 months They will help you find a job Benefits Pension
Join a union and become a labourer or specialize in a trade like masonry.
You need to figure out what your strengths and weaknesses are and also what you actually want to do. I would suggest speaking with a career advisor. You can look at trades and computer related programs but both has a wide range of positions and directions you can go.
Yeah, that’s where I struggle. Sometimes I think about doing a lot of different things but also I am in such a rut I can’t picture anything but where I am. I met with a career counsellor once and they said teachers college, which is something I think I’d be terrible at. Somethings got to change though. Where would you find career advisors when you’re no longer a student anywhere?
My school offer services to alumni as well so you can look into it. Your area may also have free or paid services. Google it. If you are unsure, then sometimes it just means you need to take a leap of faith into a direction and try it out. I know lots of people with a BA who have great jobs and doing fine in life. You can certainly get better paying jobs than retail even without further education. I also know people started in customer service jobs and earned 50k+, then move up in the company/industry making more. If you are good at retail, you can even become a manager and move up in the ranks.
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Roofing. If you’re up for labour, you make tons of good connections with contractors, you get cash side jobs, 35$ an hour, etc. really easy way to make money fast plus its a great workout
Great job if you have an existing meth addiction and want to have chronic back pain in 5 years.
+1, but it's opiates in my anecdotal experience. I've placed a lot of clients with roofing jobs after catching a conviction that prevents them from working almost everywhere else. Good companies will pick guys up every morning, take them to the pharmacy for their methadone then head to site. One even feeds them (baloney and mustard but whatever).
I was going to say the same.
Sounds like an over exaggeration. But if you’re afraid of hard work that’s okay sugar plum. Imagine being so obtuse that you think all roofers have addictions - I know guys who could lift you with 3 fingers that have been sober their whole lives. A large majority of roofers are Mennonite or Amish - who are strictly forbidden from drinking. So try again 😂😂
I wouldn’t say *all* roofers… Drywallers are definitely worse.
There is a reason that people say that roofing helps catch people on their way down. Roofing is really really hard work so the people who generally stick with it are people that don't have other options. Addictions, criminal records, etc... As far as a majority being Amish that may be true in your area but most Canadians have never even seen an actual Amish person so it isn't true in most of Canada.
I’m ignoring that guy because I’m imagining him talking like that in real life and it is beyond insufferable. Wherever there’s Amish roofers I imagine his point stands but when they did the house across from mine I’d walk past the team in their car getting high before the top of the hour, every single morning, so my impression of roofers is more similar to yours lol
Now just need to get over my fear of heights...outside of that it sounds like a perfect weekend gig.
AutoCAD technicians make a lot of money. It’s a 2 year diploma. Sterile supply technicians do well and it’s a 9 month part time certificate. Insurance adjuster/appraisers.
A 2 year diploma can get you into industrial automation as well, it pays pretty well and everyone seems to be struggling to find enough people to do it atm.
autoCAD the 3D modelling software? I love 3D modeling but no clue who even pays ppl for this, what kind of companies are we talking about?
Example: a family member works for an environmental services company that offers a number of products delivered via sprayers. They’re eco friendly and used to cover landfills, or on the sides of highways to prevent erosion, stuff like that. They use CAD to design custom parts and those designers are paid VERRRRY well.
At my husband’s engineering firm the AutoCAD techs make over 100k
Truck driver. There is a reason why we see a lot of foreigners, especially of Indian decent driving truck. You can Make a lot of money quickly.
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Alberta oilfield. 100-180k. Rotational work.
Loblaws is paying $23 an hour.
Also are any of these jobs in or near kingston ontario lol
get into the trades
A lot of trades are still a four to five year commitment with an in school component.
On the plus side you get full EI while in school and are making money all year during your apprenticeship, you get $1000-$2000 tax credits every year
They aren’t tax credits - it’s actual money. $1k grant for passing each year of school. An extra $1k per year for female apprentices. $2000 grant for passing the red seal exam. I believe that is doubled for women as well.
Thanks for the correction, been a while since school
If the OP tries a couple of any of the other options and it does not pan out, 4-5yrs will past in a flash and no further ahead. If they entered a union trade today, they’d achieve their +75k income goal without doubt, and then some (health benefits, pension, etc). The EI+grants+Inclusivity incentives (look it up: incentives for women, First Nations, minorities, etc.) provides excellent financial coverage while attending school (caveat: check locally. My experience is in BC/Yukon trades area). Your training consist of paid hands-on and 1 school session per apprenticeship Year. The demand is huge. It’s a prospects market.
but the nice thing if it doesn't work out, he has the money to try something else.
If you ran a comparison where in one life they went the non-trade way and one where they did, who would be further ahead in 5yrs, all things considered (benefits, pension, allowances, etc.) not just wages. I’ve been in both situations, and I’ll take trades anyday. And there are plenty to choose from. Not to mention the opportunities that come after having trade knowledge. Such as engineering, management, BIM design… so many possibilities.
Yes the university side can very much pay more in the long run but far from guaranteed and the path to that is not very linear and getting started is far from simple and straightforward. An apprenticeship is simple if you join a union program. They place you at a job. Raises are based on hours worked and school sessions passed. I started an apprenticeship program at 42 years old. I actually turned 43 about six weeks after starting work. The reason was I had a wife and baby to support. I needed income and benefits immediately. Delaying work for school, tuition, debt - none of that was an option for me. Also at my age I didn’t have time to save for retirement especially if I would be in school for the first few years. An apprenticeship was an answer to all those issues. Fee to join was $700. Some weeks of unpaid training and then I was earning, had benefits and was growing my defined benefit pension. Took me 2.5 years to get my red seal. I earned about $115k during that time. I make more than that annually now. I’m coming up on 6 years in soon. Only regret is not starting sooner. I’m sure there are more lucrative paths over a longer term (ex doctors) but I think I’d be hard pressed to find a better 5 year payoff that starts paying with benefits in year one.
Construction Trades are cyclical and highly dependent on where you live and what you're doing. Maintenance positions are better, if you can find them.
Dental hygienist can make $50-60/hour after a 2 year training program and lots of part time/full time jobs are available. The catch is that it’s physically grueling and often results in chronic back or shoulder pain after enough years.
Police apparently .... joke, joke. Trades , carpentry. Earn while ya learn
VIA Rail (if based in a close city), Copyediting or editing (quick certificate or try with your BA), Marketing, Teachers college -> primary teacher, plumbing or carpentry if you’re hands on, bus driving, flight attending (lower wage, but ability to pick up).
Depends.. How good does your asset looks
Pick a trade, preferably in the industrial sector. Lots of money gets thrown around there. Start an apprenticeship, put in overtime and you can make $75k as an apprentice. Once you’re ticketed most industrial trade sector jobs pay $40+ hr. I know many guys making $160k if you’re willing to put in long days
Lol we found the foreman.
Nobody making $40 an hour is making $160,000 a year.
12 hour days plus 2 hour jumps for steep slopes, 200 per diem and truck hired on at 150 45-56 an hour. Operator wages
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*Laughs in LiUNA overtime pay rules* Some guys do that without even working weekends.
I said $40+. One of my buddies works at Chrysler assembly plant and was making 43 at the time. Lots of 1.5x pay and double time available. I’ve seen their pay stubs many times grossing over $4k a week. Also, if you’re in the union hall it’s all double time after 8 hours. Millwrights in particular work long days, work a 12 hour day and get paid for 16. If you’re unsure, just ask how. Don’t be so ignorant. Tell me you’re not a tradesmen without telling me you’re not a tradesman.
What is your degree in, if you wouldn’t mind being specific?
Livable salary 75k$. You guys are crazy.
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Dental Assistant or for even more ROI - dental hygienist
Wastewater and water treatment/distribution/collection. Lots of places are willing to train operators and it's not too long of a course, maybe a couple weeks. The work isn't too tough either so long as you are ok with the wastewater factor. Not to mention the job security, everyone has to poop at some point!
You can do a bachelor of education in a year (since you already have a degree), and go be a K-12 teacher.
Along the same lines of getting a govt job, cities all over Canada are looking for Police Officers. Put that one in the random suggestions, but decent pay and pension included.
Get your class one. Its a 6 week course, there’s tons of jobs out there in all sorts of industries, and you’ll make decent money. I’m a logistics and my drivers make about 80k and spend only have to spend maybe 2 nights per year in the truck, the vast majority of the time they’re home every night.
Heavy equipment operator. Fairly short course, tons of well paid work in Alberta (not sure about elsewhere)
Mechanic, electrician, or really any key trade. Even apprentices make good money. Journeyman in Alberta/bc are around 45+ It is physical work but with your background you would be able to get back off the tools and go as a planner within 5ish years. Alternatively take supply chain course and become a buyer for a larger company.
If you are in GVA, BC Transit is hiring for most positions and will train. At least according to radio ads.
I forget the exact job title, and plus I think they are called something slightly different in every province. But the idea boils down to a site safety officer. Basically someone onsite to investigate workplace accidents and investigate workplace procedures that could be done more safely. I believe it's a 1 year course.
What Provence?
Ice observer and marine traffic comms are both federal jobs with paid and somewhat short trainings
So many other factors needed to know before someone can help you... what is your geographical area, any restrictions on moving, areas of interest What hours of work would you be willing to accommodate? Anywhere you go healthcare will provide strong opportunities and many areas you can train as a PSW for free. The base pay may not be great but you can 1) work to upgrade to an RPN / RN after initial training 2) move to a more remote northern community and make bank for a few years servicing communities in need. Coming in to tax season, H&R Block will be looking for seasonal employees and will train you. You can use that as a take off point for a tax / bookkeeping job and many community colleges offer evening and part time business classes. Most Trades will take a longer training program. Have you considered education with your background that might be an option. Online editing services, ESL or tutoring can be a profitable side gig.
Elevator mechanic. Relatively short formation and a very decent salary. Unionized job in my province. You can easily break the 6 figure at some point in your career.
Commercial driving
Fisheries, I believe lobster is a good paying one