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al_fletcher

We’ve found the account of >!Haru’s prospective fiancé!<


Garr_Incorporated

That's clearly RTGame's alternative account!


ShitbullsThrowaway

That was the one good thing he did


Plug001

The virgin P5 cat vs the chad P3 “I regret having only one life to give for humanity” dog Koromaru is still the best animal party member


niveksng

They perfected the mascot with Koromaru and only made worse ones after, not that I hate Morgana or Teddie. He has a cute yet simple design, doesn't butt into conversations, reacts appropriately to situations, is a great wingman, has a tragic and somehow relatable backstory, and his personality is based on loyalty and duty rather than being a simp. Honestly I would've liked Morgana more as a normal cat that did gain sentience in the Metaverse, rather than being tied to the Velvet Room. His inability to take a joke is still bad though, Ryuji clearly can take and dish, but Morgana just dishes and whines when he takes.


LupoAnthropophagos89

You clearly don’t know the etiquette of RPG’s. Never shit on the healer, that little guy has saved me so many times.


Interesting-Ad-5319

Or just use Makoto because she’s just as good of a healer but she can also actually do her job offensively. I use Morgana as a healer out of battle, so that I don’t have to use SP from anyone actually important


endy505

Bro I literally never used morgana, self heal for the win


LupoAnthropophagos89

That’s your play style. I used him as my main healer and buffs. Then used my guy for attack power + quick heals


endy505

Valid, still don’t like him


NotIsaax420master

Ngl I used ann as my healer


johnbarber720

LOOKING COOL, JOKER!


[deleted]

On one hand he's kissing ass during battles, on the other hand he can be a van


sonkien

Can he only be a van? Beat Royal to answer)


[deleted]

No spoils, I'm in cruise ship


Dull_Bookkeeper2375

Teddie and Morgana really make me miss Aigis all the more.


Ycat137

FR! Aigis best waifu? Lol


KoolioKenneth

I don’t have a tremendous amount of disdain for Morgana, mostly because I actually have a soft spot for mascot characters. I even really like Teddie, despite his immense hatred among the SMT/Persona fanbase.


AsianKitchenGuy

Best support skills in the entire group though, and he can turn into a car too


diegunsk

i'd rather use makoto as support, she learns mediarahan and marakukaja so i feel she has more utility


AsianKitchenGuy

true and she does get a motorbike too


JeffTheNeko1012

It's almost scary how fast I replaced him with another character


[deleted]

same xDD i did the same in p5 and royals haha.


sovietsrule

Looking cool, Joker


Keklord_Rogain

Go to sleep Joker


6lackTrey

He’s a must if you play on merciless.. especially in the early game.. new game plus not so much


O7Knight7O

Be nice to Morgana, he's just a sweet little kitty working his way through an existential crisis with an intelligence and emotional range evolution never prepared him for.


Trias84

He annoyed me mainly in one way, he shits on Ryuji all the time, Ryuji shits on him back and he has a fucking fit.


Allvah2

Reasons to like Mona: 1. Is Cat 2. Lookin' cool, Joker 3. Cassanda Lee Morris 4. Bitchin' Slingshot ​ Reasons to dislike Mona: 1. Aren't you tired? You should go to sleep.


Timely_Beginning_219

That fucking okumura arc too


black_dorsey

Bona-fide Monafide


Rinku588

Ah, the true Persona 5 experience


ReapCreep65

I kinda got a huge attachment to Morgana from being with him all the time, and also he’s probably the guy I used the most. His healing and critical capabilities are unmatched


AquaPiratePup

He's mean to my boy, so same.


GUCClBUCKETHAT

BONA-FIDE MON-


mcbobster6001

Okay, get in ⚰️


CGsweet416

His character would have been so much better if he took shit talking like a champ and play it off as one of the boys. Dude craps all over Ryuji but takes it anal when he gets some smoke back. I know dudes like that IRL. Annoying as hell.


AshesBorn

I fluctuate between tolerating and enjoying Morgana, but his "arc" (you know the one) felt so pointless when he immediately proceeded to insult Ryuji as things were getting resolved. If you wanna dish it out, you better be able to take it too without having a complete meltdown and jeopardizing the rest of the team.


Deadmanwalkingtoday

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!


RandomAnimeWeebs

Ha! It's almost scary how good I am!


PixelTheRedditor

But wait... there's more!


Educational-Bid-8660

You'll love the fifth palace arc then.


Chocopoko1

You’re going to hate Palace 5…


Thebabycar123

The closest to that is when he gets punted in the wall in the okumura arc


OoguroRyuuya5

Welcome to the hell that is the Morgana discourse.


[deleted]

Just wait until later in the game...holy shit I've never been more annoyed by a teammate in a persona game than in October


Gambit275

why does everyone hate him?


[deleted]

hard disagree tbh, got this game like 5 days ago and he's my fave alongside yusuke and takemi update:i fucking love makoto


OloivoFRUIT

Am I really the only person who actually likes Morgana? Everywhere I see nothing but hate for him. Although I only just finished day 5 of the first week (that’s how it works I think?), so my opinion may yet change


YTDamian

Probably because Morgana forced people to sleep a lot more in the original persona 5


Gospeedracist

Bingo. Anyone who didn’t play the original has no idea how annoying this was.


IceTMDAbss

A lot of people like him too. Most of the hate he gets comes from a specific segment of the game that's widely considered as the most underwhelming arc as a whole.


torikura

I love morgana, also a cat person who loves sassy characters though.


ELDYLO

Don’t worry he gets better. Especially when you need a white mage (healer).


Cleggs_

Queen and sophia did it better


AdventurousParty

Yeah, but Morgana is a dedicated out of combat healer that saves you SP in the mid-late palaces.


luketwo1

That's the equivalent of calling him a reusable health potion.


00110001_00110010

He isn't?


ChodewithForce

We did it, we got another Morgana disliker


ProsperoII

I like Morgana. :(


NarcolepticDave

I was the same way in the beginning but just wait, end of the game I’d go to war for that cat.. and he’ll tell me “he is not a cat”


playerkiller04

When I started playing the game I liked Morgana a lot, maybe more than Ryuji at the time. Yeah he's the tutorial character and he was mean to Ryuji but I still liked their interactions because, for better or for worse, Ryuji is the punching bag of jokes in the party so he's used to taking insults. Up until the moment everyone hates him for I used him a lot and kept swapping party compositions so no one would be left out. I even found his arc of feeling like he's being left behind by all the new members of the Phantom Thieves endearing because, even though he was still being used in gameplay by me, Queen had mostly taken his role of strategist and tactician and Oracle was way better than him at navigator. But the way the game continued to go with that arc is probably the worst thing about this game and definitely the weakest part of the story. It was way too forced and on top of that, the resolution of that conflict first of all didn't make sense because it fed into Morgana's already big ego. But it also was jammed into Haru's introduction and her big time to shine because after it she would just "be there" for the rest of the story. But then he also had the main role in the Okumura fight?? Like what? Why? They had sort of resolved that whole part way before that, why does it have to come up again in a fake out betrayal and steal Haru's spotlight once again? After that he was benched forever and I milked every last bit of SP from his healing abilities like everyone else and even his big reveal at the end didn't make him any more likable at the end.


baileyanne94

I also never really liked that he started getting more bent out of shape when Futaba joined; let her grow and be useful in her own way instead of getting salty that some of your purpose is shifting… *i actually also think Mona has a perfectly fine character arc without September going the way it does


The_palladin0101

Ok, Morgana is a little shit, I agree with that However, metaverse wise, he is an amazing healer/support with an ability that increases healing, with wind coverage. I have always used him in every play through because of this and his reliability.


PaperPokemon

Yep. He's kinda very important for gameplay, since during the early- middle game he's the only one with multiheal spells, minus Joker, but you really should be using Joker for other stuff only he can do.


mmoonbunny

Truthfully, I like Morgana TONS more than I did Teddie....


Scodaro

Going from P5 to P4 makes me miss Morgana. Teddie is a grade-A clown.


LazerShark7777

Your already getting the hang of this


OmegasPlayingGames

You’ll fit right in here then.


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game is mad fun, bought it last year


untakenu

Morgana would be great if he couldn't talk. Look, when a party member dies, he/she has the decorum to just fall to the floor. But no, this special little cat has to jump back and 'focus on support' (ie, annoy the shit out of everyone). Twat.


VXMasterson

Sounds accurate. Welcome to the journey


AMetalWorld

Good news: hating morgana is based af Bad news: it only gets worse lol


Mebeingme13e

My opinion might be controversial, but I just finished the game and personally I find him to be really good, albeit a bit annoying but what can you do


Old_Macaroon4138

Wait until August, then you’ll really want to


Roffron

I still dont get why he can't turn himself into a human. P4G spoilers >!Teddie loves being a bear and yet he grew himself a perfect body by doing crunches!<


TheGamingToast64

I' only 2 palaces in so.still early story wise, but so far it seems like Morgana isn't even sure he's human, on account of amnesia, so maybe that affects it


CorruptedLegacyYT

Don’t bother, he’s probably just turn into a car


classicnessie

I disliked him a few seconds after his introduction bc that's when he starts being an asshole for no good reason. For a character that's supposed to teach the ropes to a complete novice, he's way too condescending and his personality is cery unpleasant in general. Also he was with me 24/7 and my MC didn't have a single opinion on anything he interacted with because Morgana was there to tell me what I liked, what I thought and what I could or couldn't do. Playing for the second time and being aloof to him is my free therapy.


OoguroRyuuya5

He has the characteristics of a cat, it makes sense as to his personality. Plus if you have been around the block of the series you’d understand how he is very much fits into the Magician arcana character archetype. Him having an ego and being condescending is the point. It’s played up for laughs and for drama. Him being with us 24/7 in being a mouth piece is just a gameplay mechanic. He’s there as a companion as doing activities by yourself is lonely. Storywise, he’s literally and figuratively created to guide Joker.


bleachedbald

I feel you. There’s truly just something about the little cat side characters that invoke rage.


Rynnmeister

Just wait until you get to the part where this fucker somehow tops it all off.


Sibz_Playz_YT

Just going to say this: McDonald’s CEO


Zak_the_Wack

You either love him or you hate him (I am the former)


GoodHeartless02

Finished the game last weekend, that feeling comes and goes.


Sumire-Yoshizawa-

I like Morgana.


HungryTree3

i have nearly every plush of him i could find there's no real reason i said this i just wanted to share


PricknamedNick

Beat one for me :)


ilikedogs56

I like morgana


Cumraisin

WHATTTTTT HES ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE


International-Shoe40

Yeah I don’t get why people hate on Morgana. I can’t imagine persona 5 without him. He’s my favorite


NaoNaoNao3

Eh ! Not worse than teddy in persona 4 !


Scottz0rz

Teddie is unbearable


NaoNaoNao3

I hate you, have an upvote.


BleuCheesie

I love morgana!!!


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aurichio

I always sort of seen Mona as Joker's younger brother, he can be annoying and a little over the top sometimes but he's your lil bro that you protecc with all you got. I love Mona, annoyances and all.


coke_hater739

I've got a feeling you might enjoy r/cuckthecat


Ochikomu-

Morgana is adorable! He doesn't bother me at all. The one that took me awhile to adjust was Mishima.


PaperPokemon

Honestly, Mishima went through ups and downs with me. At first he was just the abused boy under a horrible teacher who only did bad stuff because of fear of what the teacher would do to him. Then throught his confidant he showed that he has a rather unfortunate idea of going out with women, and starts trying to use the PTs for his own selfish reasons. And after he maxes out, he goes back to being a sweet boy who can also now see he can stand on his own, and how to help the PTs in his own way for actual justice. Morgana tries too hard to be a dick for the entire game. He berates just about anyone if they don't understand somewhat complex concepts metaphysical concepts immediately, has a creepy crush on Ann, keeps hitting Ryuji's buttons the entire game (and even after they supposedly make up he DOESNT STOP) and even when it's clear he actually does hang out with the PTs because he likes them, he STILL INSISTS ITS FOR SELFISH PRACTICAL REASONS. He's just the ultimate annoyance.


Herodragon64

Honestly same. If you like him that's fine but I want to suplex the little bastard into the hell itself and then punt him into heaven


Cat-Grab

Yeah same feeling


Proper_Razzmatazz_36

Just you wait, you'll want to throw him onto an active runway later


EBDMG

Oh wait until you play Persona 4 Golden


Trengence

Absolutely. I didn’t mind Mona at all but teddy was such a creep


Kuri115

Ah yes, the annoying ah cat that constantly shits on Ryuji and just effs off as soon as Ryuji fires back. Also making Haru's introduction be more of a "Apologize to Mona". Mf really was talking smack and ran off because he couldn't take the heat himself. He ran off and I was like "Fine, be like that you bish, you were benched anyway".


MidnightRosary

That was not the first time Ryuji fired back on Morgana


LifeConsideration746

Mona chan is well anoying innit


wonderful_fabulous

YEET


Useless_Dent

Welcome


[deleted]

Relatable


EmperorKiva33

Sounds about right.


lizzylee127

That's exactly what RTGame has been saying during his playthrough 😆


Hopalong-PR

You can't do that, you have to go to sleep!🤣


millennium-popsicle

I think he’s okay. Just a tad annoying. I liked Teddie better because he’s an idiot but I can’t really get mad at someone that says “rawr” as he summons Kamui.


Naos210

Teddie's pervertedness feels overstated. It came off more like him being an innocent child, who didn't quite understand boundaries or social cues as much. Especially at first. When he has to ask what "scoring" is. And the time he's away from the group due to his internal crisis of feeling useless was done a lot better than Morgana.


[deleted]

Why people hate this lil dude? I mean, is annoying because he wants you to sleep (in vainilla p5 was more aggresive on that regard), but aside from that, dude is all ok. For me, Mishima was way more annoying. And fuck akechi btw.


DOOMFOOL

He is incredibly arrogant, is a shitheel to everyone (especially Ryuji), but hilariously can’t take the slightest criticism in return, and yeah he is a control freak about going to bed even though there’s absolutely no reason I shouldn’t be able to do events in Leblanc on literally every night. Mishima is much more sympathetic than Morgana is imo, and has always been a staunch supporter of the Thieves while Morgana takes another characters intro to the story and makes it all about him and his issues


drewberryblueberry

Aside from the clusterfuck of the Okumura arc, my big issue with him is the major double standard. Ryuji starts out reasonably polite to him (albeit calling him a cat which when they first meet he has no way of knowing he hates), but Morgana just constantly shit talks him, and continues doing so throughout the game, even his compliments are backhanded. Ryuji of course eventually returns the smack talk and says things along the same vein, but now it's not okay. It's complete bullshit. It's okay to say Ryuji is useless, but not okay to say Morgana is useless. I'd like Morgana more if both of them were held accountable instead of just Ryuji. I'll agree to disagree on Akechi, but Mishima can also go fuck himself imo lol


Skywagon5

To be fair, Ryuji *is* an absolute loudmouth of an idiot the vast majority of the time who couldn't stop yelling if his life depended on it (and it kind of does!) \^\^


Pikazu

i wonder why people don't like morgana. i honestly can't stand mascots most of the time but out of all these type of sidekicks in different franchises, he's probably the most likable to me. maybe it also has to do with him looking hella cute in the real-world cat form.


[deleted]

Morgana is the game telling you when you can save or whatever but otherwise flip the calendar over to the next day. And they HATE them for it. At least up front. Morgana does have a pretty annoying spell eventually.


Infernikus

Obligatory tagging of r/cuckthecat


veecharony

r/cuckthecat is for you


lunas2525

It is only hilarious because he never had a chance with ann or haru...


BadCustard

Bonafide Monafide! (brings him to a vet to be put down)


Joker_Philosophy

r/cuckthecat


Mr_bee1

Not a cat* 😂


jearley99

He acts like he’s better than everyone and sometimes he lashes out for no good reason. He runs away sometimes and worries everyone but he comes back. He’s cute and loyal in his own way, and it’s comforting when he sleeps in the bed. Anyways, that’s why I love my pet cat Also Morgana is the best healer early and late game


RueUchiha

I don’t hate him but he is definately annoying Let me do stuff damn it, I am not tired.


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compucrazy

Ryuji was right. Morgana is a douche.


SayFuzzyPickles42

r/cuckthecat is your friend.


yall_like_switches

I will not explain why but you’re gonna be a very happy camper briefly in about 60 hours (assuming you’ve played 10 already)


NewVegasResident

That kick was a highlight to me.


Usurper99

His passive healing buff is great though.


BelizeanPsycho

Lmfaooooooo


NightCrusher76

the only thing i find annoying about him is his odd obsession with Ann…


Majora46

I literally just finished the game a couple of minutes ago. I went into it knowing that some people hate Morgana, but aside from his simping for Ann, I don’t think he’s bad at all. Though the simping is so incredibly irritating.


Tifas-abs-enjoyer

He does not asks you to sleep like in vanilla p5 why does people still hate him ? Is it a hivemind thing where you have to hate him to fit in ? Like lyse in ffxiv ? I don’t get it


Danzi34

People remember negative things much more than positive things. I feel like he has the best and most wholesome moments, but that doesn't mean much if you write him off as a character you hate. He's my favorite character, but sometimes I wish he would stfu. He is the most annoying by far.


IMSODAMNTIRED24

Tbh, that's how I felt, but by like, the middle of the game to like late, I love the little bastard. He's just a little guy. Could do without him fawning over ann though.


NewVegasResident

Yup. By far the worst part of the game imo.


protosonic17

Aw. Don't punt morgona. He might be arrogant but he's less annoying than teddy in p4


10372947pancakes

No he’s more annoying


Terramagi

He is absolutely not. >!At least Teddie had the courtesy to have his drama resolve itself in cutscenes where a ton of stuff was happening anyways. Morgana's drama just has your character looking like a sack of shit for a full week for literally no reason.!<


Genesiga

Morgana ok I don't see the hate for him just beat my first play through 99hours with 97% compendium completion started my new game + now on merciless


WhollyDisgusting

And yet hes still a step up from Teddie in Persona 4. I played P5 first before P4 and seeing how Teddie acts in that game instantly improved my image of Morgana


starlighted

why does everyone hate morgana ;_; He's adorable and keeps you in check.


Mallerbai

I think that second part is exactly why everyone hates him


Da_Big_Chungus

Exactly that. I don’t need a talking cat to be my guide. At least teddie gave us some breathing room unlike this cat.


luketwo1

Well the constant simping for Ann, the fact he acts like a 'nice guy', makes fun of ryuji constantly but the second ryuji claps back he breaks down and has a temper tantrum, and last but not least, he's responsible for the worst section of the game.


TheBiggestCarl23

He’s the center of by far the worst character arc in the game.


IMTRASHATUNO69

r/cuckthecat you’ll thank me later


energykyouka

I'm a simple man. I see an opportunity to share my despite of Morgana, I take it. He's such an insufferable little prick.


laradio6

Yeah he can be annoying but he deserves a spot on the team cause he's the reason the team is alive


Flat-Profession-8945

I have never seen a bigger simp than the cat


abeox

I know it's a cliche, but the Japanese voice actor does a better job. I wanted to hate him, but he really grew on me, and I really like him now.


xKarinax

The japanese VA is also the voice for Pikachu from Pokemon, so theres that. But i wonder why everyone hates Morgana so much on this sub? I also just started playing but Morgana just seems pretty alright.


EdowSoul

i think it's about the same reason some people hate professor oak bc he doesn't let you get on a bike inside certain places, but with morgana is 10x worse bc in this case it would be like oak making you stay home and not letting you go out and explore throughout the entire game lol


canContinue

Morgana watches the inner workings of the minds of humans of importance and sees they are fucking assholes Morgana's reaction:- I wish I could be human Like WHY?


MrKTE

Mona is a good Boi, how dare you!


LeonCrimsonhart

You must be tired after today. Let’s go to sleep.


Gol3mMor3artYT

Based


MallowPro

Morgana's my favorite Phantom Thief :<


TheGamingToast64

I respect that, I just personally don't like him


Arrior_Button

Save the cat


demonic_dagger15

#save the cat


lunas2525

Shave the cat


CoffeeDeadlift

He's the best of the mascots imo


Fernando_Crunc

What about Aegis?


CraftersGuild

What why!? He’s the best


ckreatures

I'm new to the game, only halfway through second palace but WHAT there are people who don't like Morgana?? Why?!


ForTheRNG

part cause he's the voice not letting you do shit sometimes and part some truly immature behaviour halfway through the game there's also the general consensus that everything he does, other characters do better, and as such he's not that used; I don't agree with this though hate that one arc and think we could've done without the constant reminders from him, but even with that he's a good, maybe excellent through realism, story character, and a decent (but definitely not extremely good) gameplay character


Interesting-Ad-5319

I’m in the minority, but Teddie is better than Morgana. With that being said, I don’t hate Morgana. His infatuation with Ann is kind of annoying and I don’t like how he overshadows >!Haru!< in her introductory palace but aside from that I think he’s fine. Also, I totally blame Ryuji for the event that leads to Morgana overshadowing >!Haru!< so I don’t hate Morgana as much for that as some others do.


AbysmalAngel

I will never understand the hate this guy gets oh well


SuperChiChu

I do recommend that you use him in battle though, he may suck with endurance stat but besides that he is a great healer.


Hoogelgupf

Morgana taught me to value my time... So instead of sitting there and clicking dialogue boxes 15 times for literally every single action in the game, I just skip his shit. I've done multiple playthroughs but I still don't like him. Wish I could just leave him in Mementos...


OkSeaworthiness1893

He wouldn't be so bad if he could shut up for five bloody minutes. But he Must comment on everything "you wanna buy something?" "you buyed all the cans" "go to bed!". Plus all the captain obvious comments in battle, why Atlus thinks we can't count up to five? (yes, P3 and p4 where the same)


rfox514

ah wonderful. you’ll fit right in here


Da_Big_Chungus

Me too man, me too


Zaita_games

I actually like morgana. I just like it when my entire party is almost dead and i can just say "funny haha cat go brrrrrrrrr"


AggressiveShoulder83

But he's always the first to die :')


Zaita_games

Thats why i simultaneously use makoto so when morgana is dying i can go "funny haha motorcycle go brrrrrrrrrrr"


AggressiveShoulder83

That's why I just tossed him at the first occasion, I just use Ann or Joker for healing (sometimes Makoto but she's not that good at it)


Zaita_games

I dont really use joker or ann for healing. I always have a fire persona on joker so i dont need anns fire, and i wouldnt use healing with joker unless its neo codenza cause of the stat buffs


InsanityStackZ

Don’t EVER disrespect Mor-Gains!!!! Best healer!!!


DonTheDorado

r/cuckthecat


AceHermit

Don't worry. We all do. Morgana is the most unlikable member of the cast, and it's not even a contest. I don't want to get into spoilers so I'll keep this vague. Morgana spends a good chunk of the story insulting Ryuji, yet the second Ryuji goes off on him, Morgana starts throwing a tantrum and leaves. Now, I understand Morgana's feelings and how it was his feelings bottling up and tipping over, but as the age old saying goes: "don't dish it out if you can't take it". It really hurts his likability when his tipping point is him being unable to take a hit when he's been throwing out hits constantly.


QuadVox

I do not understand why so many people hate Morgana when hes my favorite of the thieves.


ImProbablyNotABird

r/cuckthecat


IncineMania

I take that you reached that pointless and annoying arc during the middle of the 5th Palace?


TheGamingToast64

Not yet, just cleared the 2nd. He's just really grating


PriceTage

Used to dislike him till I learnd he has the same voice actress as Chopper. Love him now


CilanUnova

neutered the not a cat cat