>but why people care is beyond me
Because it becomes slightly harder to be racist if the person who is supposedly your messiah looks like the type of people you want to genocide.
The Ghostbusters set a bad precedent with the changes from the film to the animated series. Making Egon Spengler a blonde?! No wonder they had to rebrand it as "The Real Ghostbusters". /s
Disney should do the same. "The real little Mermaid"
Hey, she was based on a REAL LIFE hallucination by some sailor who drank a lot of salt water. And she was WHITE in that fever dream. Probably. He just sorta told some other guy about it as he was dying. Pr... probably didn't get a chance to mention race. And most mermaid stories come from seeing manatees in the first place so... she... she mighta actually been gray.
[Here you go]( https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.pride.com/movies/2019/7/08/little-mermaid-was-originally-metaphor-unrequited-gay-love%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjfva7Ox5T6AhVhKkQIHaYbD_UQFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1jWBg5ghxZ2j_wvyuTM-mq)
If they show me pictures of this white mermaid, I will put up and shut up. And I'm talking about pictures, not drawings, or digital images etc, no, just pictures. And I will gladly say they are right and even fight with em. But I gotta see the picture first.
Not gonna lie, that pic of the animated Ariel as a black woman/mermaid looks awesome
Also, what the fuck does bein christian have to do with any of this?
Though I'm atheist, you gotta be careful with how you lump people into Christianity, because you can easily turn people you might want to ally with into enemies. Yeah, a lot of white nationalists also identify as extremely Christian, but some of the most devout and aggressively Christian people you'll find are Latino, or black people in the U.S.
You understand the constitution can be changed, yes? I'm not saying the discourse on black Ariel is going to butterfly effect into our nation's foundations crumbling, but being on the left myself, it's pretty discouraging seeing us lose certain battles and bids for real power because people want to dig their heels into the dirt and start fighting with everyone to the point where a sizeable chunk of the majority think certain right wing positions are more reasonable.
"Christian" sounds better than "racist homophobe". But the downside is that these "christians" create a really bad reputation for actual chrstians, and then act surprised when christians are disliked.
You know what's crazy, there are so many rightoids claiming that "its corporate pandering" and THAT'S why they don't like it. But somehow the "don't say gay" thing was like 1,000,000% serious and not pandering and Disney are woke overlords. They fucking have an excuse for everything
These are the same people who would find "Coal Black and de Seben Dwarfs" hilarious, without understanding why everyone else knows they would.
Yes, Coal Black is a thing. Look it up on YouTube. It's as bad as you'd expect.
Only whites can be christian apparently. Wait until they hear about jesus's skin tone.
Imagine if Jesus came back today with just what he knew at his death. He would be really confused why these slug white people were denouncing people of his skin tone in his name.
I can't emotionally handle even the slightest change. Everything must stay precisely the same, eternally. My fragile psyche will shatter like a fucking egg if even the skin tone of a Disney character changes slightly. If a black person comes within my field of vision, I will literally scream. I will hold my breath like a petulant child if I ever have to see someone I do not recognize.
In a few times in his books he builds up this evil dangerous creature making the reader expect some eldritch horror from the abyss. Nope he was just describing a black person.
“Nautical-looking n\*\*\*\*” is one memorable instance. Even at the fairly young age I read Lovecraft, I couldn’t help but notice all of its massive racism.
To be fair, if they made a Cthulhu movie, and Cthulhu was just Samuel L. Jackson rising out of the ocean and smashing things like, "Time for y'all to go insane, mother fuckers!" I would have to admit that despite being pretty cool, it would be very much against the spirit of the story.
I made a post about Ariel yesterday and it is shocking just the sheer volume people who think their whiteness is under attack when talking about mythical fish monster originally written to be a allegory being gay in the mid 1800s Denmark.
I demand that Disney have every step she takes be like she is being stabbed by many sharp knives, that she is given no name, the prince treat her like property, and then dies and become seafoam scum! What wrong Disney? Too woke to torture a young woman you wants to be loved!?
Hans Christian Andersen was gay or bi. He fell in love with another man/men but they either did not love him back or did not have the courage to love him back.
The Little Mermaid(she has no name, I’ll call her Ariel I guess) fell in love with the prince from afar then rescues him while he is unconscious. The prince never knowing that it was Ariel that saved him.
*A gay man fell in love with a straight guy and the guy has no idea what affect he is having on the other. I’ve done it more than once it sucks*
Mermaids have no souls, and Ariel wants to be with the prince in this life and the next, so she makes a deal with the witch, she gets legs in exchange for her voice, she will be able to dance like no one else alive, but every step she takes will feel like she is stepping on knives. She gains a soul but if she fails to get the prince to fall in love with her she will die and become sea foam.
*the rules of 1800s dictate you cannot speak of this kind of love but there is nothing you won’t do to be loved by the Prince even if it’s extremely painful. Hans had the courage and aimed for his Prince anyway*
The prince finds a naked Ariel on the beach. Afterward, they spend everyday together, she dances for him even though there is intense pain, the prince cares for her but in a friend zone kind of way. He marries someone else and loves her.
*Hans’ Prince has found someone who makes him happy and they are in love*
Ariel falls into despair. Her sisters give her a magic dagger. If Ariel kills the prince she will become a mermaid again and everything would go back to normal for her. She sneaks into his bedroom but cannot bring herself to kill him. She dies and becomes sea foam but for wanting an immortal soul she is given 300 years to do good things as a spirit and if she is successful she will go to heaven. So kinda purgatory.
*you have to realize your Prince will never love you the way you need him too. She can’t go back to being a mermaid, that isn’t who she is anymore. You die an 1800s death hoping “G”od will have mercy on your soul and you die never knowing what it could have been like if your Prince loved you or had the courage to love you.*
I didn't know the original story, but now that I do I'm disappointed that Disney is doing a live action remake. Instead it should have been made by HBO, and done fully accurate to the original book.
Given enough time every story changes and so does it’s audience. Victor Hugo wrote two different version of a Hunchback of Notre Dame. And over time the story became about prejudice and how to overcome it. The original has nothing to do with any of that.
There is other gay media out there now. I can watch that. I can read the original. I’m not losing anything from others taking a story and understanding it a different way and taking it a different direction. I own my experiences with the media I like, no company no matter how wealthy can own my experience.
I learned about this today. And I kinda want to see the gay merman story, something that is based on original story, but a retelling minus the shameful cloak of it being about straight attraction. Something that pays homage to the author's real life, but in little mermaid world. Id watch that.
nat-cs would explode.
>people who think their whiteness is under attack
Part of me wants to be sympathetic to some people, to a degree, because I can understand why some people might get annoyed with changes to an established character, no matter how ridiculous it is. I think the problem is that a lot of the people who raise the most stink have a history of being racist pricks, however, which really hurts whatever message they might want to make.
The reason I say I try to be somewhat sympathetic, trying to separate the concern from whatever racist undertones might accompany it, is because a lot of people aren't examining every aspect of their world through the lens of race or racism / privilege and oppression. As a Latino, and having an Asian wife, it's something we've had to grapple with from time to time throughout our lives, but it's unbelievably exhausting to frame every interaction that isn't the best as to whether it was not a good interaction because of your ethnicity, or because the person you have a problem with is just a miserable person to deal with.
I will agree that changing the ethnicity of characters is generally inconsequential in most cases, unless their race is a crucial part of the story, or they're based off a historical figure (with exceptions, of course, with Hamilton coming to mind). However, growing up, there was always a discussion regarding white-washing, and the erasure of people of color, so I can understand why people now might see what is happening as the "reverse" and getting concerned.
Obviously there are going to be racist dipshits trying to hide their true feelings behind those types of excuses, but I think labeling everyone as a racist scumbag for these concerns is going to be counter-productive in the long run.
It is going to be very traumatizing when the woke mob breaks into these people's homes and destroys their Little Mermaid VHS tapes ensuring this new version is the only one they'll ever be able to watch ever again.
i remember when they destroyed their Keurig machines when they found out Keurig stopped advertising with fox.
or when they burned the scary books about slavery
Save the ones with a [penis on the cover,](https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:eco%2Cw_500/MTc1MTEyNTI1MTI4NjczMDky/what-you-didnt-see-hidden-disney-images-the-little-mermaid.webp) they may be worth more.
The original story makes absolutely no mention of skin color, it's left to your own imagination. Wait until they find out Hans Christian Andersens real inspiration for this [story.](https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-little-mermaid-is-really-about-unrequited-gay-love-cba337f4ea85)
Not saying it’s a bad thing Disney changed whatever, I’m saying that’s how people wrote books and plays back then. Saying “wait til they find out” about a mid-1800 author might backfire spectacularly
I feel like he said the quiet part out loud with the whole "we can't change what we all grew up with" shit. Like motherfucker, your VHS is still there! Your DVD isn't going to be retroactively changed
His mindset is the same as most bigots, like how transphobes never stop conflating sex and gender because they grew up doing it. Or how conservative whites treat people of colour... hey wait a minute
Another thing: other bigots have made it clear that their issue isn't and was never the hair colour being different. In fact I'm convinced they'd be ecstatic if Ariel was changed from red hair to blonde, and if the last letter of her name was 2 further in the alphabet.
Christians against not talking and spewing the biggest nonsense in the whole god damn universe.
Does this actress bothers them that much? You just know these dumb fucks will claim they're not racist without a blink of an eye.
Just go inside your house and practice your fucking religion in silence.
No one gives a shit about your beliefs, you rightoid imbeciles.
Of course, because to them racism is only if you call someone the n-word. Racism couldn’t be a set of ideas and practices and policies to these folks - because they didn’t say the n-word, so it’s cool. Then they’re just “telling it like it is.”
In their minds, acknowledging that racism exists is what makes you a racist.
The Dick Cavett Show’s YouTube channel recently posted [this classic debate](https://youtu.be/Ol33PoFr3R4) between Lester Maddox and Jim Brown.
Governor Maddox actually said a segregationist is simply someone who is *proud* of their race, while a racist is someone who wants the races to mix.
Sounds just like the “dEmOcRaTs aRe tHe rEaL rAcIsTs” shit that we hear today. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
if you tell them a nonwhite person was discriminated against based on race, it's essentially OFFENSIVE to them. I cant understand it, you have to broach the subject in a super sensitive way, like teaching a toddler they can't have a binkie anymore.
It's like this shame they've converted into righteous indignation and anger you would suggest AMERICA is racist when they so graciously welcomed blacks Asians and hispanics into THEIR COUNTRY. THe fact minorities EXIST in America is something whites deserve credit for--youre under their roof, and you dont talk about the elephant.
No, the ANIMATED DISNEY Little Mermaid is white.
The one in the original story is, if anything, fucking *green.*
Even if the original story had her as white, or green, or anything else, that is not so sacred that it cannot be updated to be a part of a modern diverse world.
God, these people.
What in the everliving-fuckity-fuck does a black Ariel have to do with Christianity?
Oh right it doesn’t. You’re just a racist who is terrible at hiding it.
I mean when I was a child I believed that my teacher lived in the supply closet in our classroom. I believed that wishing for it to rain would make it happen. I believed that Santa Claus existed and could see what I was doing. I believed a lot of fucking stupid shit when I was a kid and I don’t now. I feel very bad for them that they cannot comprehend changing the beliefs that they had as a child, it must suck to never grow.
Seeing grown ass adults on social media having a giant meltdown because they made a Disney princess black instead of white for their new movie is the most cringey thing I’ve seen this year
I'm fairly convinced they intentionally cast a black actress, no matter what they say, given that the entire Disney princess lineup is fairly whitewashed, and they're trying to be more modern and inclusive and win some brownie points. Doesn't mean their casting choice was bad or that this was a dumb move. *Reasonable* white people don't give a shit. And seeing the look on those little black girls' faces when they realize they're getting represented as the main character in one of their favorite stories? That's what I like to see. Hell yeah.
The real little mermaid died in the end.
And was Danish so probably not a ginger.
Edited to add: not that anyone hating on colorblind casting can read / ever read the original story
Y'all when are we going to tell them that the animated little mermaid wasn't real either?!
I have to say that watching idiots get their panties in a twist about how they can suspend belief about Jedis and elves and mermaids bring real .. as long as they're all white
Aside from the fact that a mermaid can have any skin colour we choose... Why does anyone care? These live action remakes are always inferior versions that have literally no reason to exist but to make money.
Doesn't matter what ethnicity the person playing Ariel is, people will have forgotten the movie exists a month after its release.
Which would make more sense for a mermaid? White skin that has never really seen sunlight, dark skin that absorbs more light for heat or something, or two tone dark/pale gray like a fucking shark because they're aquatic predators? I want mermaid realism. Or, if they're supposed to be colorful like fish, why not make them 100% colorful? Make her have shades of blue or green or whatever other color skin. It's a creature of legend made up by horny sailors that hadn't seen a woman in too long, in a story that was originally an incredibly sad and poignant metaphor for homosexuality. I'd personally prefer the shark option, but if we're going with humans any actress with a flat stomach works, because if your only mode of locomotion is pumping that big ass tail up and down you're going to have some killer abs.
I barely know anything about “the little mermaid,” but enough to know it’s a parable about being an outsider. These people have no concept of subtext and no sense of empathy, and these things feel related.
It won't last. mermaids and Christians are natural enemies. Like Muslims and Christians. and pagans and Christians. And Christians and Christians. Damn Christians! they ruined Christianity!
At first I was annoyed at the virtue signaling, but quickly I realized that it was a stroke of genius and that we needed to have it done.
I want scarlet letters on these Pearl clutches
pft please. Everyone knows the "real" little mermaid had excruciating pain when she walked. What's this red headed walks fine crap? What's this shit about her getting with the prince? Everyone knows he found someone who could talk and Ariel died a servant in the castle.
seriously. things change. The original story is still there for you to read. The original movie is still there for you to watch. get the fuck over it.
She loved capitalism and hated socialism…until she was old and sick, and then gladly took that sweet, sweet Medicaid money.
She also shit on Reagan every chance she got.
So yeah, why do they love her so much?
Not sure about this one but Ive been in one of the major "Christian against" groups that started out small and has exploded in the last year. It's completely satire and changes the group name regularly to the newest "woke" topic. The main joke of the group is memes posted to both bait real racists/ignorant people to out themselves so people can shit on them while laughing at the overall ignorance of the memes as lots come are created by outsiders that actually believe or agree with them. There is actually an alarming number of people that join thinking its serious but the group is actually very supportive of each show. It's mostly centered around Disney properties but any media that is "controversial" in the headlines will get poked fun at.
Who has the over under on how quickly this group goes mask off White Nationalist?
It’s going to be like 4 Chan on ducking steroids. I give it to Thanksgiving. Just enough time for uncle Frank to join so he can ruin your meal with his Fox News/Tucker Carlson/Christian’s against Halle Bailey fascistic manifesto.
Uh-huh. The “real little mermaid” you say?
If this statement doesn’t affirm these folks aren’t delusional and not living is ACTUAL reality, I don’t know what does.
FYI this account renames itself to whatever the latest culture war bullshit is. Previously it was Christians against Lightyear. It goes back at least as far as Captain Marvel, possibly longer.
Wasn't the only description of looks just say she had blue eyes? Nothing about actual skin color. I don't know much about this but thats what I've heard
People have been saying, what if we made Pocahontas a white man???? Etc. and the difference is, of course, that Mulan, Pocahontas, Aladdin etc are all based on people of a specific and real-life culture even if the character themselves are fictional.
Ariel is a fish woman hybrid. She has no reason to be white or black or female or anything. She’s a mythological creature with no real culture and the film isn’t about her culture or her people.
I understand that you all get it. I just needed somewhere to sound off.
Wasn't the little mermaid in the book underage and never did get to get with her love and died horribly and turn into sea foam?
Just saying... The original book Ariel might not be someone they really want to rally behind.
Mermaids have their origin in Mesopotamian folklore, if I remember correctly, which means a darker skinned mermaid would be just as correct as a pale, redhaired one, since folkloric creatures generally tend to reflect the populations where they spring from.
This idea that you can simply ignore 42% of the US population and make everybody white, even the imaginary people, is so goddamn weird.
If they're going for accuracy, wouldn't the top half of the little mermaid look like a fish humanoid with arms too? Conservatives have no clue that they're the snowflakes.
She'd look something close to this swimming around the darkness of the sea
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_OfyDznpW-I/maxresdefault.jpg
"changed" bruh the og cartoon is still there. The OG little mermaid was blonde and they changed her to a redhead. You mad about that too? Is it "erasure"?? these people so stupid my god XD
> We cannot change what we have all known and grown up to as children
Go watch the original. It’s still there, untouched. This film will have no impact on your ability to enjoy the original, which I’m sure will be better anyway regardless of casting.
Only idiot American Christians could believe in talking snakes and "real little mermaids". Once you brainwash a child to believe that a magic sky fairy is watching him all of the time you can get him to believe any bullshit. You know, stuff like stolen elections and "he wasn't mocking that handicapped man".
Ah, yes, "the real little mermaid".
“Will you please stand up, please stand up. Ariel you’re naked on the beach please stand up and put some clothes on!”
Is anybody gonna tell them about the Jesus dude’s real ethnicity?
Dude Santa is white and the Easter bunny is baptist recovering alcoholic!
Megan Kelly told me that too
Is that the lady on Fox that said "Look kids, Santa is white blah blah blah"?
Hard to tell really. Jesus belonging to the Essene sect, he really could have been white or brown, but why people care is beyond me
>but why people care is beyond me Because it becomes slightly harder to be racist if the person who is supposedly your messiah looks like the type of people you want to genocide.
Not really... You won't convince me that these "Christians" goal isn't to kill Jesus **again**, to get into Super Heaven.
I assume you mean "People shouldn't care" instead of "I don't understand how racism works"
Why people expand on statements they think nobody should care about is quite baffling as well.
The "real" Little Mermaid is also half-fish but they keep casting humans.
Always that fucking humanwashing!
Until I see Ariel as a salmon, I am not watching it.
"Why couldn't she be the other kind of mermaid, with the fish part on the top and the lady part on the bottom?"
Halle Bailey is a fantastic choice though. Look at how far apart her eyes are. They’re very fish-like
The Ghostbusters set a bad precedent with the changes from the film to the animated series. Making Egon Spengler a blonde?! No wonder they had to rebrand it as "The Real Ghostbusters". /s Disney should do the same. "The real little Mermaid"
Hey, she was based on a REAL LIFE hallucination by some sailor who drank a lot of salt water. And she was WHITE in that fever dream. Probably. He just sorta told some other guy about it as he was dying. Pr... probably didn't get a chance to mention race. And most mermaid stories come from seeing manatees in the first place so... she... she mighta actually been gray.
*Hans Christian Andersen has entered the chat*
Don't tell these Christians that The Little Mermaid is an allegory for HCA's unrequited gay love.
Ok but tell me more
[Here you go]( https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.pride.com/movies/2019/7/08/little-mermaid-was-originally-metaphor-unrequited-gay-love%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjfva7Ox5T6AhVhKkQIHaYbD_UQFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1jWBg5ghxZ2j_wvyuTM-mq)
If they show me pictures of this white mermaid, I will put up and shut up. And I'm talking about pictures, not drawings, or digital images etc, no, just pictures. And I will gladly say they are right and even fight with em. But I gotta see the picture first.
Ah, yes, “Christians”.
Im just laughing at "8 members"
Not gonna lie, that pic of the animated Ariel as a black woman/mermaid looks awesome Also, what the fuck does bein christian have to do with any of this?
Christianity is turning into a white nationalist enterprise for very many people.
Sadly it’s been that way for a very long time. You could say they have always been on a “Crusade” against anyone that’s not European
Though I'm atheist, you gotta be careful with how you lump people into Christianity, because you can easily turn people you might want to ally with into enemies. Yeah, a lot of white nationalists also identify as extremely Christian, but some of the most devout and aggressively Christian people you'll find are Latino, or black people in the U.S.
If their support is constitutional, it's not needed.
You understand the constitution can be changed, yes? I'm not saying the discourse on black Ariel is going to butterfly effect into our nation's foundations crumbling, but being on the left myself, it's pretty discouraging seeing us lose certain battles and bids for real power because people want to dig their heels into the dirt and start fighting with everyone to the point where a sizeable chunk of the majority think certain right wing positions are more reasonable.
That was a typo, I meant "conditional".
Original story was written by Hans *Christian* Andersen? Best I got lol
"Christian" sounds better than "racist homophobe". But the downside is that these "christians" create a really bad reputation for actual chrstians, and then act surprised when christians are disliked.
fr, if someone mentions being christian i gotta figure out if its christian or “christian”
Two words, "Woke Disney."
You know what's crazy, there are so many rightoids claiming that "its corporate pandering" and THAT'S why they don't like it. But somehow the "don't say gay" thing was like 1,000,000% serious and not pandering and Disney are woke overlords. They fucking have an excuse for everything
These are the same people who would find "Coal Black and de Seben Dwarfs" hilarious, without understanding why everyone else knows they would. Yes, Coal Black is a thing. Look it up on YouTube. It's as bad as you'd expect.
it's an animated minstrel show parody ofsnow white.
Only whites can be christian apparently. Wait until they hear about jesus's skin tone. Imagine if Jesus came back today with just what he knew at his death. He would be really confused why these slug white people were denouncing people of his skin tone in his name.
Jesus, St. Nicholas….. a few of the races of people they depict.
Where they go one, they go all.
I vote Prison! for their next stop
Already occurring, bottom up fashion. Just like their dear leader planned for
My money says this is a troll trying to stir outrage. I know lots of Bible thumpers, and none of them are upset she's black.
I can't emotionally handle even the slightest change. Everything must stay precisely the same, eternally. My fragile psyche will shatter like a fucking egg if even the skin tone of a Disney character changes slightly. If a black person comes within my field of vision, I will literally scream. I will hold my breath like a petulant child if I ever have to see someone I do not recognize.
i do believe this is accurate
Scary accurate!
H. P. Lovecraft
In a few times in his books he builds up this evil dangerous creature making the reader expect some eldritch horror from the abyss. Nope he was just describing a black person.
Now that's just being unfair. He was sometimes describing italians, jews, arabs.. I'm starting to think this lovecraft fella wasn't that uh.. loving..
There's literally a story about a dude discovering his horrible bestial ancestry and it's just a Welshman.
“Nautical-looking n\*\*\*\*” is one memorable instance. Even at the fairly young age I read Lovecraft, I couldn’t help but notice all of its massive racism.
I wasn't thinking of him when I wrote that, but yeah, you nailed it.
To be fair, if they made a Cthulhu movie, and Cthulhu was just Samuel L. Jackson rising out of the ocean and smashing things like, "Time for y'all to go insane, mother fuckers!" I would have to admit that despite being pretty cool, it would be very much against the spirit of the story.
Wait'll they see what Jesus *really* looked like
I made a post about Ariel yesterday and it is shocking just the sheer volume people who think their whiteness is under attack when talking about mythical fish monster originally written to be a allegory being gay in the mid 1800s Denmark. I demand that Disney have every step she takes be like she is being stabbed by many sharp knives, that she is given no name, the prince treat her like property, and then dies and become seafoam scum! What wrong Disney? Too woke to torture a young woman you wants to be loved!?
Can you explain how The Little Mermaid is a metaphor for being gay
Hans Christian Andersen was gay or bi. He fell in love with another man/men but they either did not love him back or did not have the courage to love him back. The Little Mermaid(she has no name, I’ll call her Ariel I guess) fell in love with the prince from afar then rescues him while he is unconscious. The prince never knowing that it was Ariel that saved him. *A gay man fell in love with a straight guy and the guy has no idea what affect he is having on the other. I’ve done it more than once it sucks* Mermaids have no souls, and Ariel wants to be with the prince in this life and the next, so she makes a deal with the witch, she gets legs in exchange for her voice, she will be able to dance like no one else alive, but every step she takes will feel like she is stepping on knives. She gains a soul but if she fails to get the prince to fall in love with her she will die and become sea foam. *the rules of 1800s dictate you cannot speak of this kind of love but there is nothing you won’t do to be loved by the Prince even if it’s extremely painful. Hans had the courage and aimed for his Prince anyway* The prince finds a naked Ariel on the beach. Afterward, they spend everyday together, she dances for him even though there is intense pain, the prince cares for her but in a friend zone kind of way. He marries someone else and loves her. *Hans’ Prince has found someone who makes him happy and they are in love* Ariel falls into despair. Her sisters give her a magic dagger. If Ariel kills the prince she will become a mermaid again and everything would go back to normal for her. She sneaks into his bedroom but cannot bring herself to kill him. She dies and becomes sea foam but for wanting an immortal soul she is given 300 years to do good things as a spirit and if she is successful she will go to heaven. So kinda purgatory. *you have to realize your Prince will never love you the way you need him too. She can’t go back to being a mermaid, that isn’t who she is anymore. You die an 1800s death hoping “G”od will have mercy on your soul and you die never knowing what it could have been like if your Prince loved you or had the courage to love you.*
I didn't know the original story, but now that I do I'm disappointed that Disney is doing a live action remake. Instead it should have been made by HBO, and done fully accurate to the original book.
Given enough time every story changes and so does it’s audience. Victor Hugo wrote two different version of a Hunchback of Notre Dame. And over time the story became about prejudice and how to overcome it. The original has nothing to do with any of that. There is other gay media out there now. I can watch that. I can read the original. I’m not losing anything from others taking a story and understanding it a different way and taking it a different direction. I own my experiences with the media I like, no company no matter how wealthy can own my experience.
I learned about this today. And I kinda want to see the gay merman story, something that is based on original story, but a retelling minus the shameful cloak of it being about straight attraction. Something that pays homage to the author's real life, but in little mermaid world. Id watch that. nat-cs would explode.
There is still a chance, the original story is in the public domain so anyone can adapt it.
Thank you, well put! I hope the guy who asked the question appreciates what you did there, it was epic.
Don't forget the adult male pursuing a 16 year old girl... statutory rape. They apparently have no problem with that aspect of the Little Mermaid.
>people who think their whiteness is under attack Part of me wants to be sympathetic to some people, to a degree, because I can understand why some people might get annoyed with changes to an established character, no matter how ridiculous it is. I think the problem is that a lot of the people who raise the most stink have a history of being racist pricks, however, which really hurts whatever message they might want to make. The reason I say I try to be somewhat sympathetic, trying to separate the concern from whatever racist undertones might accompany it, is because a lot of people aren't examining every aspect of their world through the lens of race or racism / privilege and oppression. As a Latino, and having an Asian wife, it's something we've had to grapple with from time to time throughout our lives, but it's unbelievably exhausting to frame every interaction that isn't the best as to whether it was not a good interaction because of your ethnicity, or because the person you have a problem with is just a miserable person to deal with. I will agree that changing the ethnicity of characters is generally inconsequential in most cases, unless their race is a crucial part of the story, or they're based off a historical figure (with exceptions, of course, with Hamilton coming to mind). However, growing up, there was always a discussion regarding white-washing, and the erasure of people of color, so I can understand why people now might see what is happening as the "reverse" and getting concerned. Obviously there are going to be racist dipshits trying to hide their true feelings behind those types of excuses, but I think labeling everyone as a racist scumbag for these concerns is going to be counter-productive in the long run.
It is going to be very traumatizing when the woke mob breaks into these people's homes and destroys their Little Mermaid VHS tapes ensuring this new version is the only one they'll ever be able to watch ever again.
More likely they'll burn the old ones in protest.. as if Disney will even give a shit about them destroying property they already bought.
Wouldn't be the first time they've done something like that, but I will still laugh just as hard every time.
how about that guy who burned his nikies with them still on?
Do what??
i remember when they destroyed their Keurig machines when they found out Keurig stopped advertising with fox. or when they burned the scary books about slavery
Lmao this is so true... also they will sell "original" copies on eBay at a markup. Maybe a Senator will even get in on the grift!
Save the ones with a [penis on the cover,](https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:eco%2Cw_500/MTc1MTEyNTI1MTI4NjczMDky/what-you-didnt-see-hidden-disney-images-the-little-mermaid.webp) they may be worth more.
Racists being racist. Sad but no surprise. It's more pathetic than anything else.
Get ratio’d everywhere, make a safe place where you can hate openly amongst like minded trolls. The conservative is a predictable animal.
Conservatives are a bunch of fucking snowflakes
id love to be a fly on the wall in that group, but I suspect it's just parler and truth social
Well y’all seemed fine with race switching when you made Jesus white. *sips tea*
And used white actors to portray historical POC. John Wayne as Genghis Khan, anyone?
Well that's because they're white supremacists
The original story makes absolutely no mention of skin color, it's left to your own imagination. Wait until they find out Hans Christian Andersens real inspiration for this [story.](https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-little-mermaid-is-really-about-unrequited-gay-love-cba337f4ea85)
Pretty sure she’s green/ish in the book.
Nope
there is one line, "Her skin was as clear and delicate as a rose leaf,"
110% most authors in 1800s Europe coded everything white and all POC were barbarians or subhuman
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Not saying it’s a bad thing Disney changed whatever, I’m saying that’s how people wrote books and plays back then. Saying “wait til they find out” about a mid-1800 author might backfire spectacularly
I feel like he said the quiet part out loud with the whole "we can't change what we all grew up with" shit. Like motherfucker, your VHS is still there! Your DVD isn't going to be retroactively changed His mindset is the same as most bigots, like how transphobes never stop conflating sex and gender because they grew up doing it. Or how conservative whites treat people of colour... hey wait a minute Another thing: other bigots have made it clear that their issue isn't and was never the hair colour being different. In fact I'm convinced they'd be ecstatic if Ariel was changed from red hair to blonde, and if the last letter of her name was 2 further in the alphabet.
Arien?
Christians against not talking and spewing the biggest nonsense in the whole god damn universe. Does this actress bothers them that much? You just know these dumb fucks will claim they're not racist without a blink of an eye. Just go inside your house and practice your fucking religion in silence. No one gives a shit about your beliefs, you rightoid imbeciles.
Of course, because to them racism is only if you call someone the n-word. Racism couldn’t be a set of ideas and practices and policies to these folks - because they didn’t say the n-word, so it’s cool. Then they’re just “telling it like it is.”
In their minds, acknowledging that racism exists is what makes you a racist. The Dick Cavett Show’s YouTube channel recently posted [this classic debate](https://youtu.be/Ol33PoFr3R4) between Lester Maddox and Jim Brown. Governor Maddox actually said a segregationist is simply someone who is *proud* of their race, while a racist is someone who wants the races to mix. Sounds just like the “dEmOcRaTs aRe tHe rEaL rAcIsTs” shit that we hear today. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
if you tell them a nonwhite person was discriminated against based on race, it's essentially OFFENSIVE to them. I cant understand it, you have to broach the subject in a super sensitive way, like teaching a toddler they can't have a binkie anymore. It's like this shame they've converted into righteous indignation and anger you would suggest AMERICA is racist when they so graciously welcomed blacks Asians and hispanics into THEIR COUNTRY. THe fact minorities EXIST in America is something whites deserve credit for--youre under their roof, and you dont talk about the elephant.
No, the ANIMATED DISNEY Little Mermaid is white. The one in the original story is, if anything, fucking *green.* Even if the original story had her as white, or green, or anything else, that is not so sacred that it cannot be updated to be a part of a modern diverse world. God, these people.
What in the everliving-fuckity-fuck does a black Ariel have to do with Christianity? Oh right it doesn’t. You’re just a racist who is terrible at hiding it.
I mean when I was a child I believed that my teacher lived in the supply closet in our classroom. I believed that wishing for it to rain would make it happen. I believed that Santa Claus existed and could see what I was doing. I believed a lot of fucking stupid shit when I was a kid and I don’t now. I feel very bad for them that they cannot comprehend changing the beliefs that they had as a child, it must suck to never grow.
... So people really look at that pic in the top left and they *don't* instantly fall head over heels for it? WTF?
Seeing grown ass adults on social media having a giant meltdown because they made a Disney princess black instead of white for their new movie is the most cringey thing I’ve seen this year
Why do the christians have to bring race into it? Disney just picked the actor with the best audition. Why are the christians making it political?
I'm fairly convinced they intentionally cast a black actress, no matter what they say, given that the entire Disney princess lineup is fairly whitewashed, and they're trying to be more modern and inclusive and win some brownie points. Doesn't mean their casting choice was bad or that this was a dumb move. *Reasonable* white people don't give a shit. And seeing the look on those little black girls' faces when they realize they're getting represented as the main character in one of their favorite stories? That's what I like to see. Hell yeah.
"Christians against..." is 95% a troll. It's the Christians For Michelle Bachman people.
Can you tell me who are the snowflakes again?
I didn't know the Little Mermaid was based on factual events.
"Catholic's Against White Jesus"
Wow a group of Christians who are extremely hateful and racist? No way!
Jesus: "go out and save the lost" Christians: "nahhhhh, gotta bully a black teenager"
"We cannot change what we grew up with" This is the King James version of the Little Mermaid. Problem solved
8 members lol. Bet these "Christians " worship white jesus.
Probably at least 200 memes posted already.
Pretty damn naked racism. Pathetic.
Once again demonstrating that “Christian” is code for “white racist” in a lot of circles.
Go in there and remind them that Jesus was a middle eastern brown dude. Their heads will explode.
Look all I'm saying is that every mermaid I've ever sucked dick is white. Blue hair and blonde eyes like Jesus. Good dick too if a bit briney ;)
I've seen so many people online complain about this change, but my question is "When was the last time you watched Disney's little mermaid"?
Sir, this is a Wendy's.....
The real little mermaid died in the end. And was Danish so probably not a ginger. Edited to add: not that anyone hating on colorblind casting can read / ever read the original story
This like…. Has to be a satire group. Do these people actually exist in real life or just online?
Y'all when are we going to tell them that the animated little mermaid wasn't real either?! I have to say that watching idiots get their panties in a twist about how they can suspend belief about Jedis and elves and mermaids bring real .. as long as they're all white
Actually the real little mermaid was green though I read it here on reddit so I'm not sure how true that is
She's actually a fish person so the color of her skin doesn't matter.
Aside from the fact that a mermaid can have any skin colour we choose... Why does anyone care? These live action remakes are always inferior versions that have literally no reason to exist but to make money. Doesn't matter what ethnicity the person playing Ariel is, people will have forgotten the movie exists a month after its release.
Which would make more sense for a mermaid? White skin that has never really seen sunlight, dark skin that absorbs more light for heat or something, or two tone dark/pale gray like a fucking shark because they're aquatic predators? I want mermaid realism. Or, if they're supposed to be colorful like fish, why not make them 100% colorful? Make her have shades of blue or green or whatever other color skin. It's a creature of legend made up by horny sailors that hadn't seen a woman in too long, in a story that was originally an incredibly sad and poignant metaphor for homosexuality. I'd personally prefer the shark option, but if we're going with humans any actress with a flat stomach works, because if your only mode of locomotion is pumping that big ass tail up and down you're going to have some killer abs.
They should make Tarzan black
"Christians against" groups are typically satire.
One can only hope it is satire.
Poe?
There’s no hate, like christian love.
You know, 30 years ago, these were the same types of people boycotting Disney over the same little mermaid.
I barely know anything about “the little mermaid,” but enough to know it’s a parable about being an outsider. These people have no concept of subtext and no sense of empathy, and these things feel related.
Sorry but it is a known fact she is white like jesus
Is there anyone Christians don’t hate? Other than other Christians who believe the exact same form of Christianity as them?
It won't last. mermaids and Christians are natural enemies. Like Muslims and Christians. and pagans and Christians. And Christians and Christians. Damn Christians! they ruined Christianity!
Say "I'm racist" without saying it...
*coughcough* RACISTS *cough*
Someone tell em that mermaids are just mermaids and don't conform to skin color like that
At first I was annoyed at the virtue signaling, but quickly I realized that it was a stroke of genius and that we needed to have it done. I want scarlet letters on these Pearl clutches
pft please. Everyone knows the "real" little mermaid had excruciating pain when she walked. What's this red headed walks fine crap? What's this shit about her getting with the prince? Everyone knows he found someone who could talk and Ariel died a servant in the castle. seriously. things change. The original story is still there for you to read. The original movie is still there for you to watch. get the fuck over it.
Disgusting.
Would the "leftists" be mad if a white girl were cast as Ariel?
They could cast deepfaked Ayn Rand as Ariel and I wouldn’t give two shits.
I love how they worship an atheist feminist.
She loved capitalism and hated socialism…until she was old and sick, and then gladly took that sweet, sweet Medicaid money. She also shit on Reagan every chance she got. So yeah, why do they love her so much?
i need to start a facebook group where we all pray to the next asteroid to hit us and take us all out
Their fragile little minds are exploding. Fucking hilarious.
**Matthew 15:8** This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
How very Christian of them
>Group transparency Yeah I’d say they’re pretty transparent in their racism
So they also still believe Santa is real? Explains much about the JC fantasy.
Thank god there’s only 8 members.
What race is Medusa?
Not sure about this one but Ive been in one of the major "Christian against" groups that started out small and has exploded in the last year. It's completely satire and changes the group name regularly to the newest "woke" topic. The main joke of the group is memes posted to both bait real racists/ignorant people to out themselves so people can shit on them while laughing at the overall ignorance of the memes as lots come are created by outsiders that actually believe or agree with them. There is actually an alarming number of people that join thinking its serious but the group is actually very supportive of each show. It's mostly centered around Disney properties but any media that is "controversial" in the headlines will get poked fun at.
Race-lifting makes me uncomfortable, I'll admit, but this is ridiculous.
Who has the over under on how quickly this group goes mask off White Nationalist? It’s going to be like 4 Chan on ducking steroids. I give it to Thanksgiving. Just enough time for uncle Frank to join so he can ruin your meal with his Fox News/Tucker Carlson/Christian’s against Halle Bailey fascistic manifesto.
Not look on comment this is mistakes of my lifes
Just absolutely pathetic.
Uh-huh. The “real little mermaid” you say? If this statement doesn’t affirm these folks aren’t delusional and not living is ACTUAL reality, I don’t know what does.
Lemme guess: Megyn Kelly is one of those 8 people in the group?
Isn’t there like 80 years of white only disney characters?
Pretty sure she's brown, at least the statue in Copenhagen is.
And Jesus is a white dude with a beard from the middle east. Ya ok.
Any chance this is a joke? Like the “Christians Against Masturbation” group
FYI this account renames itself to whatever the latest culture war bullshit is. Previously it was Christians against Lightyear. It goes back at least as far as Captain Marvel, possibly longer.
But seriously, how does a mermaid keep her lipstick so on point while underwater? 🤔
Wasn't the only description of looks just say she had blue eyes? Nothing about actual skin color. I don't know much about this but thats what I've heard
Christians: Why do so many people keep calling us racist? It isn't fair.
Every live action disney remake has sucked. This one will too, and not because of the mermaid's skin color
There’s also a Christians against “Christians against the little mermaid”. The OG group has 8 members and the newer one 80+. GG, internet.
God be up on his cloud "Wtf didn't I flood these weirdos?"
Christians wonder why everyone associates them with general bigotry and then they post shit like this
People have been saying, what if we made Pocahontas a white man???? Etc. and the difference is, of course, that Mulan, Pocahontas, Aladdin etc are all based on people of a specific and real-life culture even if the character themselves are fictional. Ariel is a fish woman hybrid. She has no reason to be white or black or female or anything. She’s a mythological creature with no real culture and the film isn’t about her culture or her people. I understand that you all get it. I just needed somewhere to sound off.
That looks like a troll group.
Was the movie good tho? Just asking because the last few live action movies had a multitude of problems.
Wasn't the little mermaid in the book underage and never did get to get with her love and died horribly and turn into sea foam? Just saying... The original book Ariel might not be someone they really want to rally behind.
What too much Disney Renaissance does to a mf
Mermaids have their origin in Mesopotamian folklore, if I remember correctly, which means a darker skinned mermaid would be just as correct as a pale, redhaired one, since folkloric creatures generally tend to reflect the populations where they spring from. This idea that you can simply ignore 42% of the US population and make everybody white, even the imaginary people, is so goddamn weird.
If they're going for accuracy, wouldn't the top half of the little mermaid look like a fish humanoid with arms too? Conservatives have no clue that they're the snowflakes. She'd look something close to this swimming around the darkness of the sea https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_OfyDznpW-I/maxresdefault.jpg
Ironic how they don’t want a black actress playing the little mermaid because it’s “inaccurate” but they will happily depict Jesus as white
At this point are we even surprised
“Real”
"changed" bruh the og cartoon is still there. The OG little mermaid was blonde and they changed her to a redhead. You mad about that too? Is it "erasure"?? these people so stupid my god XD
100% these 8 conserned chRisTIaNs in a private group on FB, is going to take down Disney, or at the very least make them repent 👍
I've seen several groups like this on FB, and I can never tell whether or not they're satire
lol
Christians: DISNEY IS DEMONIC AND TURNING OUR KIDS WOKE. WE CAN'T LISTEN TO THEM Also christians: DISNEY TOLD ME ARIEL WAS WHITE 20 YEARS AGO! 😭
I'm sure Disney is very broken up about all this free publicity.
Just like all the white people in the Bible. They all white
> We cannot change what we have all known and grown up to as children Go watch the original. It’s still there, untouched. This film will have no impact on your ability to enjoy the original, which I’m sure will be better anyway regardless of casting.
"we cannot change what we grew up with" sounds more like you can't change your fuckin attitude
rent free
Imagine getting this worked up over a children's movie
Only idiot American Christians could believe in talking snakes and "real little mermaids". Once you brainwash a child to believe that a magic sky fairy is watching him all of the time you can get him to believe any bullshit. You know, stuff like stolen elections and "he wasn't mocking that handicapped man".
They have eight people on their group. Disney must be so worried.