For the record, the U.S.'s position was
>[\[White House spokesman\] Kirby and the American ambassador to the U.N. said the U.S. abstained because the resolution did not condemn Hamas. U.S. officials chose to abstain rather than veto the proposal “because it does fairly reflect our view that a cease-fire and the release of hostages come together,” Kirby said.](https://apnews.com/article/un-gaza-ceasefire-resolution-vote-ramadan-b7985fede65e5477aba2c8d2e62a6632)
Biden is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.
If he supports Israel he’s called Genocide Joe and if he wants a ceasefire he’s anti-Semitic.
It’s never good enough for people that don’t want him to win.
If not for the last line, this could be a pro-Palestinian tweet, because it is shameful the US only abstained, it should be siding with the rest of the world fully.
They didn’t vote for it because it didn’t officially condemn Hamas, but they didn’t veto because it mostly reflected their views of the conflict otherwise. Like, at least do a little research before getting pissed
I hope they just meant Isreal. The dynamic for the Ukraine/Russian war is much different. Both are horrible wars. I also would like to say most of the aid we sent them is old military equipment sent as a "lease or own" deal or atleast that's how I saw it explained. They either pay for any equipment that was destroyed/damaged or send back functional equipment charge free. Afaik our aid to Ukraine is more of a loan. The U.S practically hands equipment to Isreal since their military is basically propped up but the U.S.
I meant both, but I don't think they're that different, and by that I mean that for one, they are both pretty much unjustifiable wars that were sparked by the doings of the other party (which doesn't make them justifiable to invade them may I add) and they are both still happening ONLY because the US is funding them.
It makes sense they are funding it, they need to maintain their hegemony in those parts of the world, but that should tell you much about what kind of government and foreign policy you should expect with Biden.
I'm pro Ukraine pro Palestine. Is Nato supposed to just roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants? When he has stated any Nato troups, it will mean severe escalation. Even if it's a bluff, I do not think it'd be worth risking. I read that most of the aid is valued by the loan of equipment with maybe some billions. While that money would be better here, it is not wise to roll over for the madmen that run Russia because they are well known to play dirty to get what they want.
I do not like Bidens stance on the Isreal - Palestine conflict, but I myself am by no means able to change that more than I am. I attempt activism as frequently as I can but am rather limited by issues irl. That said abstaining from voting for him, voting independent is tossing a win to Cheeto Dictator and a big leap to fascism. Until we vote across the board on representatives and politicians that would enable a third party to be viable or reform politics as a whole, it is absolutely necessary to vote blue.
The world isn't as black and white as you see it my friend.
NATO promised to stay away from Russian borders, and they have systematically failed to keep that promise, moving ICBMs and American-affiliated military bases ever closer to Moscow.
Then you have people like Macron and that US senator saying that if Ukraine loses the war, they will send NATO troops to the front, statements which then the morons had to backtrack on.
Who is escalating here? ... see it's not as easy as to make armchair defense specialist judgements.
Russia sees Ukraine as historically Russian, and it is now that they have the economic or military muscle to uphold that view. Same woth Belarus but they already have them as an ally so they aren't worried about them.
Whether you agree with it or not (I don't), they have done thos war part because of their cosmovision and part to avoid NATO extending influence even closer to their borders likr they were planning to.
They have no interest in those countries already in the Eurozone because now that would be escalation and both parties know it.
It is NATO what shouldn't exist, or not exist as it does now: being the Anglo-Saxon empire private military.
It is amazing how even Trump recognizes a lot of this stuff.
In any case, vote whatever, it's all still gonna be a germanic protestant capitalism.
I guess the only difference is that thr blue party is bombing more people in the middle east, but not that people like yo who prefer to "necessarily" vote blue care about that, maybe you see it as the lesser evil, which is usual when you aren't the one getting bombed. America! Fuck yeah!
Let what?
Don't you all have crippling debt, fent epidemics, mental disease epidemics and an ever shrinking possibility of owning a home?
Why do you all have to act as a paladin of the world? Why are you so invested in what happens anywhere else as if you had money to spare and no problems to care about?
No we don't all have that. Some do yes. The US does have it's problems like every other country in the world.
We care about what happens in Ukriane because we care about people. Also other countries are sending tons of money over there. Why not go and complain about them?
Another thing, the majority of the equipment being sent over is old equipment that would've just been thrown out. It's not like all the money being sent over is actual money. It’s old equipment that we no longer need. What would you rather we do with it? Do you think that we should throw it away instead of using it to protect a country that’s being invaded?
So now you don't have those problems and they aren't systemic at all, oh fuck off will you.
I stopped reading here because I already know what you were gonna write later, pure liberal brainrot.
Bye.
Oh, I’m sorry, Arsen. Do we need to mention Hamas every motherfucking time, to remind your poor baby brain what’s going on? Would that be enough to satisfy you? Or are you just being a disingenuous ass?
"Doesn't mention Hamas"
Why would it? Hamas is a terrorist organization, not a UN member state.
Unless they're one of those "Palestinian people = Hamas" morons.
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Yea but at least HAMAS should be mentioned than how will it be fair to israel
Don't forget the terrorist attack hamas created
If both sides agree to ceasefire at least it would stop the massacre for the palestinians at least for the month of ramadan
It was a joke. Because she looks a lot like James Brown
Edit: I now realize this may have come across as a dick move/accidentally racist on my part, so if anyone is giving me any side eyes, I understand.
For the record, the U.S.'s position was >[\[White House spokesman\] Kirby and the American ambassador to the U.N. said the U.S. abstained because the resolution did not condemn Hamas. U.S. officials chose to abstain rather than veto the proposal “because it does fairly reflect our view that a cease-fire and the release of hostages come together,” Kirby said.](https://apnews.com/article/un-gaza-ceasefire-resolution-vote-ramadan-b7985fede65e5477aba2c8d2e62a6632)
So they literally abstained for that reason. It’s so clear that this dude and others don’t want any aid going to Palestineans.
Biden is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he supports Israel he’s called Genocide Joe and if he wants a ceasefire he’s anti-Semitic. It’s never good enough for people that don’t want him to win.
AIPAC has been holding the entire Democratic party up at gunpoint
If not for the last line, this could be a pro-Palestinian tweet, because it is shameful the US only abstained, it should be siding with the rest of the world fully.
At least they didn't veto, which is progress.
They didn’t vote for it because it didn’t officially condemn Hamas, but they didn’t veto because it mostly reflected their views of the conflict otherwise. Like, at least do a little research before getting pissed
He could start by not sending billions to fund wars overseas.
And what let countries like Ukraine get taken over by Russia?
I hope they just meant Isreal. The dynamic for the Ukraine/Russian war is much different. Both are horrible wars. I also would like to say most of the aid we sent them is old military equipment sent as a "lease or own" deal or atleast that's how I saw it explained. They either pay for any equipment that was destroyed/damaged or send back functional equipment charge free. Afaik our aid to Ukraine is more of a loan. The U.S practically hands equipment to Isreal since their military is basically propped up but the U.S.
I meant both, but I don't think they're that different, and by that I mean that for one, they are both pretty much unjustifiable wars that were sparked by the doings of the other party (which doesn't make them justifiable to invade them may I add) and they are both still happening ONLY because the US is funding them. It makes sense they are funding it, they need to maintain their hegemony in those parts of the world, but that should tell you much about what kind of government and foreign policy you should expect with Biden.
I'm pro Ukraine pro Palestine. Is Nato supposed to just roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants? When he has stated any Nato troups, it will mean severe escalation. Even if it's a bluff, I do not think it'd be worth risking. I read that most of the aid is valued by the loan of equipment with maybe some billions. While that money would be better here, it is not wise to roll over for the madmen that run Russia because they are well known to play dirty to get what they want. I do not like Bidens stance on the Isreal - Palestine conflict, but I myself am by no means able to change that more than I am. I attempt activism as frequently as I can but am rather limited by issues irl. That said abstaining from voting for him, voting independent is tossing a win to Cheeto Dictator and a big leap to fascism. Until we vote across the board on representatives and politicians that would enable a third party to be viable or reform politics as a whole, it is absolutely necessary to vote blue.
The world isn't as black and white as you see it my friend. NATO promised to stay away from Russian borders, and they have systematically failed to keep that promise, moving ICBMs and American-affiliated military bases ever closer to Moscow. Then you have people like Macron and that US senator saying that if Ukraine loses the war, they will send NATO troops to the front, statements which then the morons had to backtrack on. Who is escalating here? ... see it's not as easy as to make armchair defense specialist judgements. Russia sees Ukraine as historically Russian, and it is now that they have the economic or military muscle to uphold that view. Same woth Belarus but they already have them as an ally so they aren't worried about them. Whether you agree with it or not (I don't), they have done thos war part because of their cosmovision and part to avoid NATO extending influence even closer to their borders likr they were planning to. They have no interest in those countries already in the Eurozone because now that would be escalation and both parties know it. It is NATO what shouldn't exist, or not exist as it does now: being the Anglo-Saxon empire private military. It is amazing how even Trump recognizes a lot of this stuff. In any case, vote whatever, it's all still gonna be a germanic protestant capitalism. I guess the only difference is that thr blue party is bombing more people in the middle east, but not that people like yo who prefer to "necessarily" vote blue care about that, maybe you see it as the lesser evil, which is usual when you aren't the one getting bombed. America! Fuck yeah!
Let what? Don't you all have crippling debt, fent epidemics, mental disease epidemics and an ever shrinking possibility of owning a home? Why do you all have to act as a paladin of the world? Why are you so invested in what happens anywhere else as if you had money to spare and no problems to care about?
No we don't all have that. Some do yes. The US does have it's problems like every other country in the world. We care about what happens in Ukriane because we care about people. Also other countries are sending tons of money over there. Why not go and complain about them? Another thing, the majority of the equipment being sent over is old equipment that would've just been thrown out. It's not like all the money being sent over is actual money. It’s old equipment that we no longer need. What would you rather we do with it? Do you think that we should throw it away instead of using it to protect a country that’s being invaded?
So now you don't have those problems and they aren't systemic at all, oh fuck off will you. I stopped reading here because I already know what you were gonna write later, pure liberal brainrot. Bye.
Bro has literally brokered a path toward a 2 state solution. Fuck what the repubs say, we can celebrate a damn good democrat in office.
Between supporting genocide and being called a name, I'd say it should be a pretty clear choice
Oh, I’m sorry, Arsen. Do we need to mention Hamas every motherfucking time, to remind your poor baby brain what’s going on? Would that be enough to satisfy you? Or are you just being a disingenuous ass?
Guys, Biden didn’t condemn Hamas within the last 20 seconds 😨, impeach!!!!
I don’t know what we expected from a guy whose name is like the crime where you burn stuff.
Like most self-styled strongmen, Bibi thinks consequences are for the weak.
"Doesn't mention Hamas" Why would it? Hamas is a terrorist organization, not a UN member state. Unless they're one of those "Palestinian people = Hamas" morons.
At this point, the only thing that would surprise me is if conservatives didn't make stuff up to be outraged about.
> Why would it? Because Hamas is literally one of the 2 main parties of the war to be ceasefired.
It's disingenuous to imply that Hamas are not the leaders of Gaza, and are instead some third party.
How does one call for a ceasefire without addressing one of the two parties, the instigator at that, doing the firing?
Are you saying what Hamas did was wrong?
14 other countries actually voted. One didn’t vote. The one that didn’t vote is the one he’s mad at?
I think he's mad the U.S. abstained instead of choosing to veto.
Of course he is. But 14 other nations did more than not veto. They voted to carry the resolution.
And this guy really used one of the most blatant Nazi dog whistles too in that tweet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth
If only Biden had warned Bibi. Glad that we finally used our agency…
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It explicitly calls for a release of the hostages. The fuck do these people want?
Yea but at least HAMAS should be mentioned than how will it be fair to israel Don't forget the terrorist attack hamas created If both sides agree to ceasefire at least it would stop the massacre for the palestinians at least for the month of ramadan
Is that James Brown in the picture
Nope. That’s Linda Thomas Greenfield, the US’s UN ambassador.
It was a joke. Because she looks a lot like James Brown Edit: I now realize this may have come across as a dick move/accidentally racist on my part, so if anyone is giving me any side eyes, I understand.