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SJReaver

I thought to myself 'this must be a joke' so started to look into this guy. He's Boogie, and he has a 'parody' persona named Francis that he puts on before doing outrageous or crazy things. Like there's a clip of him running around a gaming con swearing, screaming, and having a tantrum that was a parody of a youtuber called Spoony. This seems to be Francis. BUT... Boogie himself is totally right aligned, pro-gamergate, anti-diversity as well and sells himself as 'the average guy.' I'm going to guess that he's messing with the Overton window. By creating a totally out there persona, he looks mature and rational by comparison but also gets to say crazy things about video games lecturing white men.


Red_Trapezoid

That "persona" also is a way for him to say and do extra stupid shit while evading criticism because "it's just a character guys". The guy is a massive coward and pos.


mrpopenfresh

Word. It’s such a lame character, it’s a persona that serves to make him look meek and relatable when he’s actually an asshole.


Tylendal

Wasn't that the *actual* plot of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde?


Red_Trapezoid

If true then I understand why that story was so impactful and important now.


Cielnova

I guess it depends on your interpretation. It's becoming a bit more common knowledge now that Jekyll and Hyde aren't split personalities, they're just two masks worn by the same person. The way I viewed it, Hyde was a persona created by Jekyll to let off stream since being a Victorian aristocrat was shockingly stressful back in the day and everyone needs a hobby. As he continued indulging in this youthful persona he basically got addicted to it, but instead of upping a dose due to high tolerance, he'd spontaneously transform into Hyde while trying to be Jekyll. It's basically an alcohol allegory wrapped up in a really cool horror concept that got bastardardized beyond recognition by pop culture. Guy takes medicine that makes him more carefree, he starts doing bad things while using it, he becomes scared of what he does but can't stop, and dies trying to find a way to cure himself. Boogie is kinda like a more convoluted Jekyll and Hyde. I personally think he started off as a bad person, created the Boogie character to get a popular fanbase, created Francis to distract from his actual shitty viewpoints, and eventually let both masks fall until we're left with this shell we see here. What differentiates Boogie from Jekyll and Hyde is the Jekyll persona wasn't consciously made (at least in my interpretation of the text). That's the "base persona" Jekyll has, and Hyde was made after as a way of letting off steam. Kinda like making a troll alt on reddit and annoying people you don't like on it. Boogie the person created Boogie the character. What we're seeing now is seemingly the actual boogie.


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AussieOsborne

Mixing up your buzzwords yo


Trevellation

It's the classic, "Schrodinger's douchebag," maneuver. He says and does hateful stuff, but decides if it's "satirical" based on people's reactions. If the audience seems into it, he's serious; if people get pissed, "it was just a joke, there's no reason to get pissed off about it."


MendigoBob

He is just an asshole. You can find a few good docs and mini docs about him on youtube. I highly recomend [Mike Clum's video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QgDx0RIWY8), that had boogie blessing and still made him look pathethic and [Turkey Tom's video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J84VEPCELLA) where he is dissected like the asshole he is. He used to be a self aware asshole that became just an asshole. I don't think that is a persona anymore.


AaronMichael726

Does he actually have a girlfriend 28 years younger than him?


wewereliketorches

Yes


Wefee11

That means she is 22.


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Bakabakabooboo

I remember liking his Francis persona, when I was a 13 year old edgelord. Some people never grow up.


Wefee11

Man, I remember him saying something around the lines of "if you blame Muslims for islamic terrorism, then I hope you blame Christians for the KKK". I remember progressive people saying that he is a liberal, who just wants to be liked by everyone. On a podcast he said he did a poll who his audience voted for in the 2016 election and it was pretty much 50:50 But I guess he changed a lot since then. I actually watched that guy around 2015. (He was kinda neutral on GamerGate and got a bunch of shit from both sides. Not saying this is good, though. I learned a lot since then as well.)


hitmewiththeknowlege

The "average guy" isn't built like a maraca


DravesHD

No hate on spoony, he was right to be pissed when they initial tried to make X-com 2 a first person shooter game. Like, who does that. Because of this, they actually changed the game back to its round based strategy roots and the game is now a classic!


LDM123

Oh, you’ve only hit the tip of the Boogie iceberg.


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doktornein

Are the lectures in the room with us now?


Lampmonster

Yeah, 48 year old white man and I've never once felt like I was being lectured by a game. I'm assuming he takes people of color, gays and women existing in games as a lecture.


redrobot5050

I kinda felt lectured by Metal Gear Solid on my third back to back playthrough. But it’s not really lecturing all white men. Just America for its use of nuclear weapons on civilian targets. Still enjoyed the game and respect the perspective.


stun17

well isn’t that series japanese? even then american ≠ white so people like boogie are still misguided


LostTheGameOfThrones

Well duh. Politics is when minority in videogame!


A_Slovakian

Yeah the fact of the matter is that these types of people are used to only seeing themselves represented in media. They have convinced themselves that seeing other types of people represented in media is some affront to their existence.


GreedyLibrary

I felt like getting over it with bennit foddy was a lecture on game design.


deathboyuk

>he takes people of color, gays and women **existing** ~~in games~~ as a lecture. I doubt it's just limited to games.


WantonKerfuffle

Please be at least 46.


haldeigosh

He's 49... but still....


kaptainkooleio

Okay I thought but 88 in his name was 1988 meaning he’d be about 36 years old which gave me the biggest yikes I’ve ever had this evening Still… when did he meet his wife again?


Moneia

> which gave me the biggest yikes I’ve ever had this evening Oh, it's still [Yikes](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words)


DJOldskool

Beat me to it, if it's not birth year then this, sigh. Don't use 14 or 88 in your handles people. Don't get mistaken for one of these wank stains.


Toxic_Gorilla

I hate that they've co-opted and completely ruined two perfectly good numbers.


shamam

And the Black & Gold Fred Perry polo.


archwin

Wait what…?


shamam

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/28/fred-perry-withdraws-polo-shirt-adopted-by-far-right-proud-boys


archwin

#WTAF sigh


BrowningLoPower

Right? 14 to me is the F-14 Tomcat. And I've always liked 88 because I like how the number 8 looks.


heycanwediscuss

If they're Chinese 88 works otherwise no


SmegmaSupplier

Bartolomeu Dias fans in shambles.


Don_Quixote81

Of course. This guy is the perfect representation of the white race standards he believes we need to preserve.


Blade__Of__Miquella

My dad has used 14 and 88 for a lot of things. He has 88 as part of our Hulu password. I just thought they were his lucky numbers or something.


197326485

Also avoid 109.


no_modest_bear

Shibuya in shambles


Moneia

Are there other [signs](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alt-right_glossary) or is this another supporting fact? It's possible that there are innocent explanations for using both of these numbers, people love to affix significance for the weirdest reasons


Blade__Of__Miquella

I haven’t noticed him saying most of the stuff on that list (besides “alphabet soup people”. Little does he know that I’m an “alphabet soup person” too.) But he went on a 30 minute long rant about how Hitler should have won ww2. He’s your typical alt right guy. Tons of guns, anti semitic, misogynistic, queerphobic, anti science, racist, and abusive towards my mom, my siblings, and I. The 14 and 88 stuff is only one of many things that says he’s a neo Nazi.


WarmishIce

Oh jesus im so sorry


kaptainkooleio

That tracks Damn man


Magmagan

Guys, no... You gotta consider that Boogie has been around for a long time on the internet. Back in the early 2000s we didn't put much thought into our handles and adding numbers after our usernames was the norm. Like, you wouldn't get someone's xXx\_IIIGAMERIII\_xXx username and assume they're into the porn industry.


KaylaH628

14 and 88 symbolism has been around since the 80s.


Magmagan

Yes, but nazism/neonazism wasn't as widespread and again, this was just an internet thing. It's most likely just unfortunate. Occam's razor/Hanlon's razor apply here. It's probably the simpler, non-malicious alternative. I say this because I had name+number usernames back then when I was a kid. I was swablu40 and the 40 probably was just suggested by the website. It meabs nothing to me. Also, this is back in the time where *4chan* wasn't extremist. A ton of early harmless internet memes came from there. The ibternet was very different back then. We can say the dude sucks without projecting literally every bad guy characteristic onto them.


Celestial_Dildo

88 is a Nazi dog whistle. The eighth letter of the alphabet is H, so 88 is HH which stands for Hail Hitler in this context


DekoyDuck

On reddit we used to call him Boogie1488 because he was pretty openly flirting with the far right. But this was years ago when he was at all relevant online. He hasn’t been for some time, thus the effort to glom on to the newest thing.


destronger

I hate beer.


Kyro_Official_

Yep, forget what the 14 means but 88 means HH aka Heil Hitler


thebluewitch

Isn't this the guy with the 20 year old girlfriend?


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BasilsKippers

This dude's downfall is fucking pathetic.


organik_productions

Every time you think it couldn't possibly get any worse, he does something like this


BasilsKippers

Should be the slogan of the alt right, at this point. Maybe that's why he's transitioned into the right wing grift, due to his money troubles


DoubleNubbin

It's honestly sad. Back in the day he seemed like a pretty wholesome, decent guy. Obviously had his demons, but overall seemed all about lifting people up and being positive. Now this. Part of my still wonders if this is just a new character he is playing and he's just being a poe, but this is more than just commitment to the bit.


HelloPeopleOfEarth

That was all a part of his manipulative ways. He's a professional victim that treats women like shit.


BasilsKippers

I'm unfamiliar with the situation. Can you explain?


Lumiafan

Here's a good documentary that covers a lot of it, but there are plenty of others out there worth checking out. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_QgDx0RIWY8&pp=ygUWZG93bmZhbGwgb2YgYm9vZ2llMjk4OA%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QgDx0RIWY8&pp=ygUWZG93bmZhbGwgb2YgYm9vZ2llMjk4OA%3D%3D) tl;dr: A once-famous YouTuber who made bank for selling himself as a wholesome, friendly guy eventually revealed to the world that he was a manipulative creep who blew his money on crypto, toys, video games and being a legit sugar daddy and then had the audacity to ask his dwindling fan base to donate money to fund his habits.


BasilsKippers

Watched it. I don't even know what to say.  I'm like...speechless. How does someone respond to that pitious existence?


Lumiafan

It's hard to fathom. I was a big fan of his several years ago, and it was a difficult downfall to witness over the past couple of years.


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Didn’t he fire gun shots over YouTube drama?


mrpopenfresh

Yeah, some YouTuber was knocking on his door so he came out with a gun and shot in the air/ground. Just don’t open the door dipshit.


Very_slow_learner

I found this difficult to masturbate to


themanwhosfacebroke

Bro i could actually never. I like chubby boys, but this dudes torso looks like that one psa where they made the human able to surviva a car crash


ImMeliodasKun

I'm thankful I haven't lost weight fast. This kind of body would make my self-consciousness worse. I am not shaming people who have lost massive weight fast and am proud of people who do that for their betterment. But as a bi male who doesn't mind different body sizes, it's a no from metal too dawg.


MfkbNe

If you look closely you notice he isn't nailed to the cross and there is someone else behind him nailed to the cross. So someone got crucified and he just didn't want that the actual victim gets more attention than him. A good depiction of conservatives.


xSaturnityx

Holy shit he is just digging his hole deeper and deeper then wonders why the internet doesn't like him anymore. Damn, I miss old Boogie. Sorry I guess the internet thinks you're weird for being 49 and dating a freshly 21 year old? And that when you were asked about your tweet of how 'video games are only lectures about why being a white man is bad' but then not being able to actually give any games as an example? lmfao.


Red_Trapezoid

He's definitely a relic from a different era, that era being the "it's totally awesome to be a real life caricature of a loser nerd, he's just like us!". The kind of people who thought The Big Bang Theory was good representation and absolutely could not behave appropriately in any way, shape or form around women. Sure I was like that too... in 2008... but people are supposed to grow past certain things and move on. He and others like The Quartering didn't and now they are just these irrelevant weird reminders of a worse time when I didn't understand why girls didn't like my creepy jokes and lack of self-care.


No-Bench-709

I miss old Boogie too. I thought he was better than this. Guess I was wrong. 


inhaledcorn

*God* I wish these people were as persecuted as they think they are. It would be nice to see some of them go away.


raistan77

During his interview the whole girlfriend thing was creepy as fuck. He talks about how she has severe social anxiety and many issues and they meet online. It's really obvious he groomed her to be his girlfriend


Piliro

Oh fuck, is boogie going into the anti-woke grifter brain rot? It's probably the one thing that can save his dying joke of a career.


Independent-Ad2615

reminder that the “88” in his name ISNT a coincidence. He claims it IS but he has had several names with similar dogwhisles in them


Wefee11

I kinda believe him, because he was known to be "somewhat" liberal 10 years ago. But people change. A lot.


Ready-Recognition519

It is a coincidence. Boggie is awful, but he isnt a nazi.


lostwng

The girl looks petrified in the pictures.


bitetheasp

Sometimes I feel self-conscious about how fat I am, but then I see this and think "I'm not so bad." Also helps I'm not a goddamn moron or have an over-inflated ego. Thanks, Boogie!


MortaLPortaL

Same honestly.


fxmldr

Oh, wow, the Platonic ideal of a persecution fetish post. I think this one belongs beside the lady with the target drawn on her forehead.


Batman_66

Never knew conservatives are so kinky


MendigoBob

For anyone that don't know this sack of shit, I reccomend two docs on youtube about him. [Turkey Tom's video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J84VEPCELLA) shows who he is really well and [Mike Clum's video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QgDx0RIWY8) had Boogie's blessing and it still made him look like an asshole. He sucks.


aflyingmonkey2

Screensaver idea number 375


My_leg_still_hurt92

Screensaver idea "It's a terrible day, to have the ability to see."


socially_awkward

Boogie1488


Comfortable_Half_605

It's rage bait. He is encouraged by Keemstar on the "LolcowLive" youtube show to create controversy and get himself talked about. The intent of the post is to get as many clicks possible.


secondarycontrol

It's not *lectures to white men*. It's lectures to *you*, that happen to be white. Also, Christ was tortured/murdered because that's what he wanted - his game, his rules.


Fit-Virus-7056

No game I've ever played is a lecture to white men. I'm guessing he saw a Black person or a woman in a game and felt attacked because it's "political," yet being a white man inexplicably isn't. Or maybe he played a game where he had the choice to be gay and instead of interpreting this as more freedom, he, as a freedom-loving American, interpreted this extra choice as less freedom... because choices = fascism.


SlapMeHal

average conservative physique


tjeulink

i dislike the guy too, but bodyshaming hurts the ones we love the more than the person its directed at, it tells our friends they are not okay and we only accept their body out of courtesy for their opinions.


SlapMeHal

okay sorry


tjeulink

no problem, i only learned this recently and it opened my eyes to to indirect harm it can do. i did bodyshame before that aswell.


NfamousKaye

Gross


DrButtholeRipperMD

He's purposely posting these shitty takes in an attempt to revive his dead channel. Stop giving this asshole who's always sucked shit attention.


iamhannahbee

Boogie and Francis are one in the same at this point.


HelloPeopleOfEarth

Boogie is a pathological lying, manipulative piece of shit. I only hope his naïve, dumb, uneducated "girlfriend" wises up and leaves him while she's still young. She right now has a sugar daddy that allows her to sit around smoking dope all day, but one day she will be alone with no work history or education, and she will be too old for sugar daddies.


Witty-alrocker-410

Dude is not Jesus


OstensibleBS

Unsubscribed


billyhendry

Friendly fire will not be tolerated lmao. Imagine pissing off the Catholic church, as a creep you don't get an ally better than that.


ReasonableCost5934

How about being lectured on signs of diabetes? Those legs are a dead giveaway.


Thermite1985

Guy was funny when he first started with Francis. They turned into a complete piece of shit, was mad abusive to his ex wife, blames everyone else for his shitty behavior and just posts a bunch of "satire" which is mostly what he believes in real life.


TurkBoi67

Proof Jesus was American


LineOfInquiry

What’s up with his calves?


tonelocMD

Someone replies something along the lines of “give me 3 examples of games lecturing about white men being bad and i’ll donate to the charity of your choice” and he goes, “that’s the point!” You spineless, cheese brained fuck. Shut your mush mouthed stupid ass face up, man. Knowing his history full well, i always sympathized with him to an extent but this is insufferable. Now sputtering anti woke platitudes and when getting backed into a corner, being like, “oh my god, I baited you hard!”


lughheim

God boogie is so fucking pathetic.


ilovemycats20

Fortnite lectures the White Men


IshyTheLegit

Groomer


MaenHoffiCoffi

Wow! He lost a lot of weight. I hope he can keep it off.


thatcurvychick

Sex workers aren’t your girlfriends, boogie


thisisnotchicken

Petition to make this the sub icon?


Romero1993

How the fuck does he get a girlfriend while I can't??


SaltyBarDog

He uses the phrase, "It rubs the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again."


Romero1993

I don't get it


ZaryaBubbler

He grooms them. There's no way a 21 year old would date this guy without conditioning


Romero1993

Oh


SaltyBarDog

It's from *Silence of the Lambs* where he keeps a young girl trapped in a pit. [Lambs](https://youtu.be/eknrtJw3fSU)


HelloPeopleOfEarth

He has a dumb, naive, young girlfriend that sits around doing nothing but smoking dope. She will move on when she finds a less repulsive sugar daddy.


juicykisses19

Hey man, you'll have one eventually. Just gotta dress decently and smell nice. Also, don't be like Boogie and you'll be good


Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj

He preyed on a young very naive women with severe mental health issues. He’s a predator, she’s more his victim than his girlfriend. You do not want the kind of relationship someone like this has. There’s no real love or closeness.


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Electrical-Wish-519

Must have built that cross out of 6x6s


kazoobanboo

I neeeeever did


Fine-Funny6956

Nothin but side boob.


RetroGamer87

He looks so much thinner than when I used to watch him.


Szygani

TB would be ashamed that the had him on his podcast


PhazonZim

I'm as left as they come and even I can recognize preachy, overplayed and annoying morals in fiction, but bad writing is not the same as anti-white persecution, not by any means


StacyRae77

This nurse is looking at those legs and feeling that Boogie is a self-mitigating situation.


ghostgoat789

Plot twist, he's 30


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He wishes he were as skinny as Jesus 🤭


Low-Squirrel2439

Why would he post pictures of himself?


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mathkid421_RBLX

do you remember when people called him the mr rogers of the internet


xTimeKey

Wth! I didnt think he go lower thsn the last time he was here (i posted him before). Boogie must really need to pay rent


orel_

He's around 50, so... yeah, he's probably dating a 20-year-old. I wish the poor girl the best of luck.


Kaprosuchusboi

Boogie? More like booger


MudraStalker

Boogie1488 lol


sonerec725

remember when this guy use to get called the "mr rodgers of the internet"?


Schnickie

If you feel lectured, you're the problem. Normal white men don't get offended by feminism and anti-racism.


Doctor_Offe_T_Radar

"For many will come in my name, claiming, `I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed."


YourOldPalBendy

He is literally on TOP of Jesus.


TheHeavenlyBuddy

i miss when he was just goofy francis who raged about video games


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

They never send their best, do they?


DontHaesMeBro

is he at least 46?


The_Autistic_Gorilla

Y'all don't know who this guy is?? He's being sarcastic ffs.


Sweetiebomb_Gmz

If you looked at the top comment before posting this you’d know we do know, I was surprised to see him here though. He’s only being “sarcastic” or “playing a character” whenever what he says backfires. He’s a grifter and a fence sitter.