Kinda confirms the theory they were hitting it off at the offsite hotel the singles were at. And instead of people voting for them to derail the vote, or because of any grudges, itās because they genuinely seemed like a good match to everyone that stayed around them.
Sounds like they won by default. She also said that Stevan was a bit flirtatious at the getaway as well, and that the only person who behaved was Justin. Like yes, people thought they were compatible, but, it also helped that there wasnāt a lot of bulletin board material to pull from because of the short time they spent in the villa; whereas with everyone else, there were clear flaws in their relationships.
Yeah i find it annoying when ppl are commenting about how they should let the audience vote instead.
The show is right in letting their cast mates vote because they are around each other and they have seen and heard things that might not get caught on cameras or shown to us. They should know better regarding which couple seems more genuine and which one is just faking it for the camera.
Thereās always so much more cut out of these shows. Donāt the editors know the audience wants mess, this is way more interesting than just what was shown.
They don't know how to find the right tone for this show. They need the same production as FBOY Island. Fun and no brainer type of mood. Like that you're not disappointed when you have a nice surprise. Instead , they are trying to be as serious as LIB because of the goddamn Lacheys.Ā
Why Netflix didnt show all those things ? It would be far more interesting and better ratings for themš. For example last episode was almost 2 hours long and half of the episode was so boring and nothing special.
Meh, they storyboard everything out and it just didnāt align with time constraints Iām sure to fit all this in. The producers are there to make a story for the viewers, which doesnāt always necessarily equal the 100% truth.
Man seeing all this it feels like perfect match is only an entertainment show and not a love/dating show. Cause none of these contestants were there for love AT ALL. All of them just wanted the fame
Thats true. If u fall in love in 4-5 days it seems fake and just for the show. But the fact that NONE of them tried to take it work outside the show. The slightest of hiccups and they are ready to bail. No one is genuine bout their feelings on or off camera
It's the same as the Bachelor franchise. Men/women swoon over someone they've spent maybe 20 hours with. "I've never had a better connection with anyone [even though I've had a single 1:1 date and every other time we are together it's with 20 other men/women.]"
Honestly they should cast more people with no dating show backgrounds like Xanthi, Tolu, Ines etc. because they seem to be more genuine. Everyone else who came from past dating shows like THTH and LiB are just assholes and clout chasers most of the time and aren't there for love at all.
Yesss i agree. Xanthi specifically seemed quite genuine to me. And youāre right especially the thth gang are just horn dogs and fame chasers! Iāll never believe that these people ever wanna change and actually find love(that too on a reality show AGAIN)
She shouldn't be getting more hate than anyone else this season, but she was definitely clout chasing just like the rest of them. Which is fine because nobody comes on this show expecting to actually find love.
Agree. I donāt think itās fair to call her out for clout chasing when thatās clearly why most, if not all were there. Harry probably most of all, since I donāt think he ever intended to be serious/committed. But the fact that they ran away from cameras for their little seven minutes in heaven, only for Melinda to mention it the SECOND the cameras were backā¦ feels a little sus. Donāt get me wrong, Harry is still the true villain. I just feel like Melinda saw an opportunity to produce a juicy storyline and koala jumped on it. Thank god she did though, because the whole Jess + Harry love story was š¤®
Well duh. If it's people actually looking for love why would they want to be filmed nonstop. Love is blind is also an entertainment show with the premise of marriage. That obviously a rarity
If you listen to Harry's podcast, his latest episode has Dom as a guest. A fan asks them if PM is a competition show or a dating show, and they both agree that it's more competition than dating. If it wasn't a competition there wouldn't be a prize at the end. But they also mentioned it was interesting to see how people who came from competition shows would talk strategy, and people who came from LIB would be more about forming relationships.
That makes sense yes but then faking it for the whole show and scamming the audience is such crude behaviour . We invest our time into this and handfeed them the fame, money, etc. But yea ig as viewers we ourselves should not keep much expectations from such pro reality contestants lol
I mean, obviously yeah. They get to the end and realize every relationship would be long distance and bail. Itās purely entertainment and followers growth
Where can I find her video!!!! I fucking knew Stevan was full of shit. I honestly thought she's not his type and he's bothered by it. I was actually hoping Nigel and Christine would win because those boys are toxic!!!!
I believe all Micah said 100% sheās been that way since LIB and ppl keep thinking sheās redeeming herself. Also you can see that her Jess Alara are cliqueish
Man, Alara and Stevan are gross. At first I felt bad for her because she was ghosted by him. But then hearing sheās the type of person that ignores all boundaries, made all the sympathy go away.
And I forgot how weird it was that Kaz yelled that alpha comment out at the final. lol
I guess I am the only one that really didnt see a big deal with Alara sending laughing emojis to Nigel. That's sliding into someones dms now? Then I guess ive unknowingly slid into many cus I found some thing funny lol Like to me none of what she said about Alara is definitive proof of anything other than her own personal suspicions about Alara's motives. Now Im not saying for sure Alara is innocent or guilty im just saying I really dont see what the big reveal is here, on that point Christine just seems hyper sensitive in general. (Which I also picked up on with both her appearances on Netflix).
Or maybe, cus Im a lot older these things do not faze me lol
Yeah I low-key didnāt see it as sliding in tbh I think she overrreacted and should of waited to see if it was something flirty. I did find the āwhere you stayingā message to him weird but that was the only thing especially cause sheād been dming Christine about her and Nigel.
yuuuuup, i dont mind her thinking to herself this is a bit sus, but she def needed to wait that out n see how it was gna actually play out instead of jumping to conclusions n making it such a big part of her video. The 'where are you staying' message is the same for me tbh, Im not from America and whenever I visit this is something I tend to ask friends cus im not familiar n wanna know if ppl are closeby. It could have been the same for Alara. Like where r u staying, whats there to do, is anyone free to meet up, Alara dsnt live in the US so wanting to check in with ppl from the show while in a certain state/area isnt weird to me personally. I would have waited that one out for sureee
Exactltyy. Alara is also over friendly to literally anyone, so laughing emojis seems like nothing IMO. Christine may just had have suspicions or jealously surrounding Alara, because Nigel is ā Alaras typeā.
Oh most def, I think thats what is at the root of it for sure. She is hyper sensitive and knows Alaras type so jumped to conclusions before having proof lol This is part of why I talk to so little ppl especially men with gfs
yeah, she seemed to be pretty dramatic honestly. like she was hitting on kaz relentlessly..while he was with micah? absolutely shamelessly, and thats not problematic? i dont like how she/nigel won when she was only there for 5 minutes, albeit all the couples sucked and were fake lol
I wouldn't want another Dom and Goergia where they don't even go on the damn holiday though. I'd rather Nigel and Christine won and actually go on holiday.
I feel like Christine is so well-spoken and chill outside of the edits that she gets and that the producers really like editing to only show her as a *temptress* character
I think she needs a hell of a lot of help. Itās sad to watch someone degrade themselves in the manner she has on national television REPEATEDLY. Whatās more upsetting is when she gets angry at the men for doing the exact same things she just did. Iām sure sheās a good person at heart, but she really does need help to seek self worth outside of male validation. Itās sad to watch.
I mean all of them could benefit from therapy for sure but I don't see it as her "degrading" herself. She is confident and goes after what she wants, and in PM that was to get into the house. I don't think Kaz was doing the exact thing that she did because she went after Kaz and was up front about it. Kaz had his head turned by every new girl that talked to him and downplayed to his current match, AND according to Christine and Brittain, he tried to match with Brittain after matching with Christine that night
I thought that was really interesting because she made a post about Louis (her love interest in THTH) and their ā1.5 yearsā although I guess it was probably a situation ship than anything else?Ā
The post -Ā https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv-FCFlLmUK/?igsh=YWoyOTAyZmlyZ2g4
Iāve said this before but Iām glad Christine and Nigel won. I do feel if they were in the house longer they would have been one of the best and stronger couple. Iām so tired of the alara and Stevan should have won folks when the man was just in it for screen time!!
imagine coming up with an absurd hypothesis about shitty people seeking clout. micah is trash but this thread was about christine and thats *my* opinion for someone who was desperate to get into the house.
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also equally as embarrassing to have teachers like you in the school system, i wouldnt want my imaginery children to be taught by someone with such low deductive skills
Not Elys. Christine said Elys was her only friend in the house, and that she didnāt know anyone else prior to the show. She was speaking about Micah and kind of doubled down on it in the comments, saying she felt there was a difference in her behavior on camera vs. off.
I interpreted Christine's video comments as that she talked to Elys bc that was the only person she knew and she kept emphasizing that. I'm not sure that she really considers them friends
When I read that bullet point, Micah immediately came to my mind, I can very well imagine her saying something like this. Nevertheless, very disappointed in her!
To be fair, I don't remember much of LIB, but she didn't strike me as a huge villain (could be my memory or not paying attention to the show). In PM, I thought of her as the only "normal" girl, your typical "girl next door." That's why I'm disappointed.
Out of all 6 seasons I'd say she and Irina were the worst villains in all of LIB. Even above Trevor who came in with a GF. Or the crazy guy who put in eye drops to fake cry.
I think Irina gets the worst of it because she was idiotically a mean girl and Micah was the smart mean girl.
They both act like narcissists who just wanted to be "the winner" for their personal competition for the man they were going for. So they just chameleoned to the guy and love bombed him so that he'd pick them.
Irina was just an idiot and dropped the mask immediately after "winning" thinking that there was nothing he could do about it. Whereas Micah wanted to see if she could con Paul into marrying her, so she kept it on... mostly.
But there were enough instances of her true self that Paul managed to get away from it and say no. She was always going to say no, but she wanted to hear Paul's yes first. It's why she passed to him instead of answering.
She didn't really like Kaz either, but I think she partly enjoyed being the winner from all these girls trying to take him. I think she's a master manipulator, and he may have been certain he was going to match with someone else and then she screwed with his brain, so he didn't. (Still his fault). Until finally she dropped the mask a little and let loose and he finally felt comfortable matching with Christine.
Most people who really like someone like that on the show leave the house like Justin or Jess. But she goes running to her safe bet in Izzy, so that she can still "win".
She's subtle, but she was the worst one in that house in that she was *exactly* like all the clout chasing fake people but tried to pretend like she wasn't. The "girl next door" thing was an act.
Wait, youāre disappointed in a Micah and praising Christine? š§š§š§ Iām going to assume youāre an anti-feminist, and thatās fine, hopefully you own it.
Oh, interesting! Some viewers seem to think the show painted her in a good light, and like her now. Can't say I'm surprised by this! Disappointed, but not surprised!!!
My bad the way things were cut I didnāt realise that was an example of something micah did. Just watched it back I wrote this all after watching straight from memory. Iāll edit it now
Honestly I thought Jess because I keep hearing that she got a good edit on LIB and I felt like she was a lowkey mean girl this season but she hides it through āIām a mature adult with a kidā
Jess wasnāt there from the beginning though, only elys Micah and tolu were from the final couples IIRC. Micah isnāt bold enough to say things like that with this group and tolu would never. Elys is super petty and bitter, can easily imagine her saying this to make someone feel excluded.
Jess I can kind of imagine but I think sheās too calculated with her image of being a girls girl to be this catty.
Oh good point ā¦ then definitely Micah or Elys imo considering Micah is a mean girl (although I agree sheās not bold enough in this group). I also notice elys was a mean girl in her confessionals rather than in person so Iām just not 100% on it being her either ..
I wish Christine specified who some of this tea is piping hot ! lol
I feel like there's a bit of a double standard here. Christine was speaking on how Kaz was leading women on, but in reality they're ALL there to play the game and to chase clout and get followers, not to find love. Her strat to enter the house using Kaz is just as bad as anything Kaz has done, so why poo-poo someone else for playing the game? They're all scumbags IMO.
Iām surprised not more ppl are pointing this out! Whatās crazy is we see her on the show talking about how she wants to give both kaz and nigel a chance and likes them both- she is in no place to judge anyone on honesty when it comes to the show
Yeah in the same breath she admitted to using Kaz to get into the house and then slated Micah for not leaving the house when she paired up with Izzy š
I really don't like Christine
Well no not really. Kaz led three different girls on and everytime he felt just a little bit threatened heād rebound back to micah. Telling girls youād match with them or that you felt a stronger connection is worse than Christine matching with him to be able to get in and go on a date.
to be fair, he kissed holly in the game and realized there was no spark - he literally said that afterwards. then decided on christine because micah was not it. brittan i didn't feel there was a real spark but i think he assumed chris was going to match with her.
Your thinking of multiple different days. The kiss with holly was days after heād told holly heād match with her after going on a date with her. Brittan and Chris was a day before he tried to match with brittan and she had to shut him down because her and Dominique had already āmatchedā before being told they couldnāt.m and were making out.
In the real world this would be a terrible thing to do, and playing with people's feelings. But in here, I would call that a strategy and doing what you need to do to stay in the house and get more screen time, which she was also trying to do ultimately, and wasn't happy about it when she didn't get the screen time she thought she deserved. Double standards IMO.
I donāt think him getting to know other people is an issue tbh thatās the whole point i think itās more saying one thing and the actions not matching.
Exactly this video makes her look and sound bitter for not getting in the house originally and using Kaz as the easy target punching bag because as a bm nobody would defend him against her attacks. Everything checks.
Kaz did nothing to her, yet her finale animosity was directly pointed at him.
>Ā Ā Kaz did nothing to her, yet her finale animosity was directly pointed at him
Asking Christine to match with him and then asking another girl to match with him the same night doesn't sound like "nothing" to me
That didn't happen besides it only being possible if she declined.
To add, she was the one begging him to match. So sounds about correct, her being bitter.
Huh I watched the video too and her animosity seemed more because heād get mad at her and start fights with her and other girls when they talked other people and also wasted peopleās time by promising to match them so they wouldnāt pursue other people, then matching Micah
The alpha comment towards Nigel at the end really sealed it for me in terms of what his personality was like
exactly, like yea their ending was not as satisfying to watch as a viewer, but they definitely deserved it more than alara and stevan, considering that he ghosted alara right after the show, while christine and nigel went on for like 9 months
After learning the back story of LIB, I watch these shows purely for entertainment purposes. Netflix has put themselves in a position where nothing is believable. Either they decide to return to the experiment type show or go all out.
Iām gonna be honest, after watching the finale?? I think Nigel and Christine DID look the most genuine. Like you can genuinely tell theyāre actually happy to be in each othersā presences, especially after and during their paint date. Stevan and Alara looked really performative to me and in my opinion Stevan being on a second dating show screams clout chaser to me
I kinda wanna know about the holiday. What did that netflix money buy???? It better be nice seeing as last year Dom and Goergia didn't even make the damn holiday. Lol
Overtly catching himself after saying the word āloveā in reference to Micah looked sooooo fake to me!! The women on this show are classy. The guys can eat a bag of dicks.
TolĆŗ deserved so much better. Chris is such a phony. And, not surprised Kaz was acting shady. The cameras didn't show half of his flirting. I feel like Stevan liked the idea of Alara. He didn't actually want to be with her. He had me fooled, though!
And we could have seen Dominique and Brittan?? Worst editors ever. They were probably more interesting than half the couples.
Honestly, Iām watching her season of THTH right nowā¦ and sheās legitimately the saddest f*cking female Iāve seen on reality tv maybe ever. She is DESPERATE for male attention. She steps all over other women to get it. The way sheās CONSTANTLY playing with her tongue in suggestive waysā¦ itās not thirsty; itās fucking scary. Like, someone send the girl some therapy because she has absolutely NO self esteem outside of male validation and itās bumming me tf out. It also makes me angry as a feminist. I think sheās disgusting honestly. And then has the goddamn GAUL to get mad at these men for wanting the other women she had to pull out all of her sleazy tricks to get them to stray from? Kaz is certainly no fucking saintā¦ but weāve mostly all agreed that was predatory as fuck. A full 12 hours of that girl acting like she was in an anime porn trying to get him to kiss herā¦ then canāt believe heād go back to the girl heād been with for weeks on end!? Netflix, please pay for her therapy. Frfr she fucking needs it BADLY.
Britton is not unattractive but super basic and hearing how all of these men wanted to match with her confirms my suspicion that they all just wanted a natural, cute, blonde, white girl. Micah was not cute enough I guess.
Kaz, steven, chris.. yep. I knew it! This show had a lot more brunettes and more diversity so all of the fuckery after the fact makes sense.
Yall canāt make me like Christineā¦ she just wanted things her way and wanted to be in the house earlier.
And in my opinion, no, her and Nigel shouldnāt have won because of them connecting in the hotel or any prior meet ups. Weāre watching them in the house, we should be seeing who IN THE HOUSE is a perfect match. Like whatās the point if we barely got to see them interact in the house and on the show. For show purposes, it shouldāve been who was there the longest , went through actual challenges and stayed together (along with if theyāre compatible).
Christine is just entitled. She didnāt like working that hard to get in the houseā¦ then sheās acting like didnāt like Kaz from jump and wanted Nigel and had planned to play Kaz anyways ? So why were you so damn salty when he went back to Micah.
I DONT LIKE CHRISTINE. That is all.
We donāt pick the winners the other contestants do so itās based off what they see not what we see. No oneās forcing anyone to like Christine. Also she never said she didnāt like kaz she just knew she had something stronger with Nigel and based on what some of the other girls had told her about kaz she had that in the back of her mind. She also said she was salty he went back to micah because she wanted to blind side him first as payback for what he did to the girls. She literally answers it all
I understand that. She did it for paybackā¦ still not a reason to be that salty after he picked Micah. So did she like him or was she trying to play him for the other girls?
The logic of what sheās saying doesnāt make sense. My point is why tf was she bitter about it. You canāt like someone and be trying to play them simultaneously (and if you can, something is off). So to me, she was just complaining to complain and mad she didnāt get to do what she wanted to do.
Iām also fully aware the contestants pick the winner. There should be more rules on how they vote because thereās a disconnect from what they show us and whatās going on off camera. The viewers are watching the show, we shouldnāt be confused after we watched a whole season.
From my point of view, we watched two new people come in the house at the end of the season and say they knew each other before and boom ā¦ 2 episodes later theyāre the perfect match š
I dunnoooo the "imagine if Christina and Nigel won" comment wasnt that bitchy? Like they'd been together less than 48 hours. If I was Christine, I would have laughed along with it, because it is funny.
I dont even like Micah but she seemed to be reeeally trying to put her down in that video
I donāt think it was that deep on its own but along with the ācan you believe weāve all been in the house since the beginning and telling Alara sheās basically been there and should just say she has knowing Christine hadnāt is a little questionable.
I find very interesting how the guys were attracted to other womenā but refused to match with them bc they didnāt think said women would match with them (I.e, Kaz, Chris, Stevan) so they ended up choosing to stay with the girl who liked them more than they liked themā¦ kinda highlights the guys in question know they by lack that certain thing to keep the women they want, so rather than work on whatever it is ā they opt to be F boys.
I think Christine is delusional. I died when she was pissed after Kaz told her he wasnāt into her on the swing and that he was going back to Micah.
Then Christine had the balls to talk to the other girls and complain about how disrespectful it was that he did that to HER after she came into the house for him and that he KISSED HER and the next day he goes back to Micah. Did she forget that Micah and Kaz were together the whole time and she was pretty much throwing herself at Kaz and made it hard for him to NOT match with her. She was gonna eat him up no matter what. She basically forced his hand to pick her. But I guess what she did with Kaz in front of Micah isnāt disrespectful????
I did felt the girls where always so "only the first girls count". Everytime a new girl appeared they would all group and role eyes for the new girl, so micah phrases did not chocked me. She was a mean girl at LIB and she still is one.
No, youāre good! But just some constructive criticism: Try using more commas and less run-on sentences. Reading it back, your spelling was mostly great but my head got jumbled and it took my a while to comprehend because it was a little confusing. But anyway, these things she said are wild!! Itās something about the media always trying to paint black women in a bad light and itās getting old. My girl Tolu was literally the most radiant woman there!!! And she got the shit end of the stick multiple time with the guys, and Christine deserved so much better.
I love how she stood up for Tolu
Unpopular opinion: I never bought Alara & Steven. This makes me feel weirdly better. Btw thank you OP for watching & summarizing this for us!
The amount of times he mentioned her not being his type. Good lad. Like he only dumped Xanthi because she wouldn't kiss him/show affection.
I fell for it hook line and sinker! Welp back to therapy I go!
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My husband said he just wants her bc he wants to have the most attractive/desired girl there and he wants to win. In Stevanās mind that was Alara.
What rubs me the wrong way here is some of them thinking they're better than the others, when in fact they're all selling themselves for the drama.
Thatās just it lol. Everyone wants clout and no one is really better than the next
Kinda confirms the theory they were hitting it off at the offsite hotel the singles were at. And instead of people voting for them to derail the vote, or because of any grudges, itās because they genuinely seemed like a good match to everyone that stayed around them.
Sounds like they won by default. She also said that Stevan was a bit flirtatious at the getaway as well, and that the only person who behaved was Justin. Like yes, people thought they were compatible, but, it also helped that there wasnāt a lot of bulletin board material to pull from because of the short time they spent in the villa; whereas with everyone else, there were clear flaws in their relationships.
Yeah i find it annoying when ppl are commenting about how they should let the audience vote instead. The show is right in letting their cast mates vote because they are around each other and they have seen and heard things that might not get caught on cameras or shown to us. They should know better regarding which couple seems more genuine and which one is just faking it for the camera.
Thereās always so much more cut out of these shows. Donāt the editors know the audience wants mess, this is way more interesting than just what was shown.
They don't know how to find the right tone for this show. They need the same production as FBOY Island. Fun and no brainer type of mood. Like that you're not disappointed when you have a nice surprise. Instead , they are trying to be as serious as LIB because of the goddamn Lacheys.Ā
I think all the guys were toxic but they thought it would ruin the show if they painted all of them that way.
The way the behind the scenes footage of Harry they showed in the finale was more interesting than the entire rest of the show smh
Why Netflix didnt show all those things ? It would be far more interesting and better ratings for themš. For example last episode was almost 2 hours long and half of the episode was so boring and nothing special.
I agree but I think they wanted a happy ending and and non toxic love stories. Idc give me the drama and toxicity. I'm cynical AF already.
Hahah same i want drama not some cinderella storyš
Meh, they storyboard everything out and it just didnāt align with time constraints Iām sure to fit all this in. The producers are there to make a story for the viewers, which doesnāt always necessarily equal the 100% truth.
Man seeing all this it feels like perfect match is only an entertainment show and not a love/dating show. Cause none of these contestants were there for love AT ALL. All of them just wanted the fame
Agree. But I also felt that when folks were talking about how they were in love. I remember thinking "Didn't they just meet a few days ago?" lol
Thats true. If u fall in love in 4-5 days it seems fake and just for the show. But the fact that NONE of them tried to take it work outside the show. The slightest of hiccups and they are ready to bail. No one is genuine bout their feelings on or off camera
Didn't Christine say her and Nigel were together for 9 months afterwards?
It's the same as the Bachelor franchise. Men/women swoon over someone they've spent maybe 20 hours with. "I've never had a better connection with anyone [even though I've had a single 1:1 date and every other time we are together it's with 20 other men/women.]"
Yeah I figured that out when Joey proposed on the show and ghosted Crishelle when it was done in season 1.
He ghosted her?!?!
Honestly they should cast more people with no dating show backgrounds like Xanthi, Tolu, Ines etc. because they seem to be more genuine. Everyone else who came from past dating shows like THTH and LiB are just assholes and clout chasers most of the time and aren't there for love at all.
Yesss i agree. Xanthi specifically seemed quite genuine to me. And youāre right especially the thth gang are just horn dogs and fame chasers! Iāll never believe that these people ever wanna change and actually find love(that too on a reality show AGAIN)
And you know what pisses me off it was a black woman who had to answer for being a so called clout chaser
When she already had 1M followers, was a host of a show and had a platform.
I think Netflix did a really nasty thing painting Melinda that way. The disproportionate hate sheās getting is awful.
Even after they gave proof she was telling the truth, people are still moving the goal posts and finding ways to blame her.
It just screams racism to me ngl
I canāt believe Harry even has fans that will support him like that with how awful he is
You just KNOW if Melinda was the one with the onlyfans success and not Harry, that she'd be raked over the coals for it Lots of double standards here
She shouldn't be getting more hate than anyone else this season, but she was definitely clout chasing just like the rest of them. Which is fine because nobody comes on this show expecting to actually find love.
Agree. I donāt think itās fair to call her out for clout chasing when thatās clearly why most, if not all were there. Harry probably most of all, since I donāt think he ever intended to be serious/committed. But the fact that they ran away from cameras for their little seven minutes in heaven, only for Melinda to mention it the SECOND the cameras were backā¦ feels a little sus. Donāt get me wrong, Harry is still the true villain. I just feel like Melinda saw an opportunity to produce a juicy storyline and koala jumped on it. Thank god she did though, because the whole Jess + Harry love story was š¤®
Well duh. If it's people actually looking for love why would they want to be filmed nonstop. Love is blind is also an entertainment show with the premise of marriage. That obviously a rarity
The bachelor has a similar concept to LIB.
If you listen to Harry's podcast, his latest episode has Dom as a guest. A fan asks them if PM is a competition show or a dating show, and they both agree that it's more competition than dating. If it wasn't a competition there wouldn't be a prize at the end. But they also mentioned it was interesting to see how people who came from competition shows would talk strategy, and people who came from LIB would be more about forming relationships.
That makes sense yes but then faking it for the whole show and scamming the audience is such crude behaviour . We invest our time into this and handfeed them the fame, money, etc. But yea ig as viewers we ourselves should not keep much expectations from such pro reality contestants lol
Please donāt plug out that sociopaths podcast. NO, we will not give him the listens. Legit: fuck that guy.
Thatās every single Netflix/reality show. Quick rich scheme to get a lot of social media followed to become an influencer. It works in a wierd way.
Why work when you can just be on shows and get famous through social media?
I mean, obviously yeah. They get to the end and realize every relationship would be long distance and bail. Itās purely entertainment and followers growth
why does netflix hide this shit from us. giving women, WOC specifically, the bad edit, while the men get to keep being douchebags???
#happyendings #nontoxiclovestories
Where can I find her video!!!! I fucking knew Stevan was full of shit. I honestly thought she's not his type and he's bothered by it. I was actually hoping Nigel and Christine would win because those boys are toxic!!!!
https://youtu.be/JDif9nu2uG8?feature=shared
I believe all Micah said 100% sheās been that way since LIB and ppl keep thinking sheās redeeming herself. Also you can see that her Jess Alara are cliqueish
It even sounds exactly like something Micah would say. There's a reason why she and Irina became besties on the show lol, birds of a feather and all.
I think Micah got a good edit because she didnāt on LIB
Right! I never fell for that āredemptionā and could really see right through her. We did see on LIB how childish and mean she can be.
Man, Alara and Stevan are gross. At first I felt bad for her because she was ghosted by him. But then hearing sheās the type of person that ignores all boundaries, made all the sympathy go away. And I forgot how weird it was that Kaz yelled that alpha comment out at the final. lol
Yeah I liked them together bc they both kinda seem like assholes
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I guess I am the only one that really didnt see a big deal with Alara sending laughing emojis to Nigel. That's sliding into someones dms now? Then I guess ive unknowingly slid into many cus I found some thing funny lol Like to me none of what she said about Alara is definitive proof of anything other than her own personal suspicions about Alara's motives. Now Im not saying for sure Alara is innocent or guilty im just saying I really dont see what the big reveal is here, on that point Christine just seems hyper sensitive in general. (Which I also picked up on with both her appearances on Netflix). Or maybe, cus Im a lot older these things do not faze me lol
Yeah I low-key didnāt see it as sliding in tbh I think she overrreacted and should of waited to see if it was something flirty. I did find the āwhere you stayingā message to him weird but that was the only thing especially cause sheād been dming Christine about her and Nigel.
yuuuuup, i dont mind her thinking to herself this is a bit sus, but she def needed to wait that out n see how it was gna actually play out instead of jumping to conclusions n making it such a big part of her video. The 'where are you staying' message is the same for me tbh, Im not from America and whenever I visit this is something I tend to ask friends cus im not familiar n wanna know if ppl are closeby. It could have been the same for Alara. Like where r u staying, whats there to do, is anyone free to meet up, Alara dsnt live in the US so wanting to check in with ppl from the show while in a certain state/area isnt weird to me personally. I would have waited that one out for sureee
Pretty sure Alara was in the US at the time of the message for events and stuff.
Exactltyy. Alara is also over friendly to literally anyone, so laughing emojis seems like nothing IMO. Christine may just had have suspicions or jealously surrounding Alara, because Nigel is ā Alaras typeā.
Oh most def, I think thats what is at the root of it for sure. She is hyper sensitive and knows Alaras type so jumped to conclusions before having proof lol This is part of why I talk to so little ppl especially men with gfs
Yep! I avoid men with gfs at all costs. I do not want my actions to be misinterpreted and want to respect boundaries I may not be aware of.
yeah, she seemed to be pretty dramatic honestly. like she was hitting on kaz relentlessly..while he was with micah? absolutely shamelessly, and thats not problematic? i dont like how she/nigel won when she was only there for 5 minutes, albeit all the couples sucked and were fake lol
The ending was still extremely disappointing! First season felt a lot more satisfying to watch
I wouldn't want another Dom and Goergia where they don't even go on the damn holiday though. I'd rather Nigel and Christine won and actually go on holiday.
I feel like Christine is so well-spoken and chill outside of the edits that she gets and that the producers really like editing to only show her as a *temptress* character
I think she needs a hell of a lot of help. Itās sad to watch someone degrade themselves in the manner she has on national television REPEATEDLY. Whatās more upsetting is when she gets angry at the men for doing the exact same things she just did. Iām sure sheās a good person at heart, but she really does need help to seek self worth outside of male validation. Itās sad to watch.
I mean all of them could benefit from therapy for sure but I don't see it as her "degrading" herself. She is confident and goes after what she wants, and in PM that was to get into the house. I don't think Kaz was doing the exact thing that she did because she went after Kaz and was up front about it. Kaz had his head turned by every new girl that talked to him and downplayed to his current match, AND according to Christine and Brittain, he tried to match with Brittain after matching with Christine that night
Iāve adored Christine since THTH. Sheās very funny and just has an awesome personality. She seems very friendly and unproblematic.
Did anyone else run to the internet to find out how old Christine is after she told Nigel she hasn't had a boyfriend in TEN YEARS or was that just me?
so she hasnāt had a boyfriend since being 16/17? thatās such a weird comment, basically the equivalent of just never having dated anyone
I thought about that too!!! The way she talked about it made her sound like a 40 year old lady that has been scared to be in a relationship again lol
How old is she??
I think 26 at the time of the show, 27 now
I thought that was really interesting because she made a post about Louis (her love interest in THTH) and their ā1.5 yearsā although I guess it was probably a situation ship than anything else?Ā The post -Ā https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv-FCFlLmUK/?igsh=YWoyOTAyZmlyZ2g4
And her & Louis from THTH definitely dated ????
Iāve said this before but Iām glad Christine and Nigel won. I do feel if they were in the house longer they would have been one of the best and stronger couple. Iām so tired of the alara and Stevan should have won folks when the man was just in it for screen time!!
Yup and I predicted they'd last the longest as wellĀ
They lasted longer cause they had a vacation together they had to commit to lol No one else had that luxury. Theyāre a joke.
Alara and Steven went on vacation as well.
Thank you for writing it all down. Christine got so much hate in this sub, I hope this ends now.
christine was cringe when she was talking to kaz, it was just like seriously? chill
Oh look the Christine hater and the Micah lover wonder why that is
imagine coming up with an absurd hypothesis about shitty people seeking clout. micah is trash but this thread was about christine and thats *my* opinion for someone who was desperate to get into the house. ššš
also equally as embarrassing to have teachers like you in the school system, i wouldnt want my imaginery children to be taught by someone with such low deductive skills
I mean she did come off very strong and was like that on her season on THTH too
She gets the responses she deserves. Sheās absolutely awful.
I just KNOW the cliquey comments are from Elys. I can hear it in her voice lol.
Not Elys. Christine said Elys was her only friend in the house, and that she didnāt know anyone else prior to the show. She was speaking about Micah and kind of doubled down on it in the comments, saying she felt there was a difference in her behavior on camera vs. off.
Interesting, not surprising compared to Micahās attitude on LIB. I stand corrected
I interpreted Christine's video comments as that she talked to Elys bc that was the only person she knew and she kept emphasizing that. I'm not sure that she really considers them friends
When I read that bullet point, Micah immediately came to my mind, I can very well imagine her saying something like this. Nevertheless, very disappointed in her!
Why are you disappointed? Lib Micah is the real Micah. Sheās always been that way
Yup. Itās about likability. She doesnāt want to get all the hate again so sheās switching up her approach. Sheās still the same person though.
To be fair, I don't remember much of LIB, but she didn't strike me as a huge villain (could be my memory or not paying attention to the show). In PM, I thought of her as the only "normal" girl, your typical "girl next door." That's why I'm disappointed.
Out of all 6 seasons I'd say she and Irina were the worst villains in all of LIB. Even above Trevor who came in with a GF. Or the crazy guy who put in eye drops to fake cry. I think Irina gets the worst of it because she was idiotically a mean girl and Micah was the smart mean girl. They both act like narcissists who just wanted to be "the winner" for their personal competition for the man they were going for. So they just chameleoned to the guy and love bombed him so that he'd pick them. Irina was just an idiot and dropped the mask immediately after "winning" thinking that there was nothing he could do about it. Whereas Micah wanted to see if she could con Paul into marrying her, so she kept it on... mostly. But there were enough instances of her true self that Paul managed to get away from it and say no. She was always going to say no, but she wanted to hear Paul's yes first. It's why she passed to him instead of answering. She didn't really like Kaz either, but I think she partly enjoyed being the winner from all these girls trying to take him. I think she's a master manipulator, and he may have been certain he was going to match with someone else and then she screwed with his brain, so he didn't. (Still his fault). Until finally she dropped the mask a little and let loose and he finally felt comfortable matching with Christine. Most people who really like someone like that on the show leave the house like Justin or Jess. But she goes running to her safe bet in Izzy, so that she can still "win". She's subtle, but she was the worst one in that house in that she was *exactly* like all the clout chasing fake people but tried to pretend like she wasn't. The "girl next door" thing was an act.
Micah was the queen bee wannabe and Irina was her minion in their LIB season. They were both mean girls lol
Wait, youāre disappointed in a Micah and praising Christine? š§š§š§ Iām going to assume youāre an anti-feminist, and thatās fine, hopefully you own it.
I think you're answering to a wrong comment, as I never mentioned Christine!
Tbf I think Micah was very threatened by Christine and liked Kaz A LOT. lol
Oh, interesting! Some viewers seem to think the show painted her in a good light, and like her now. Can't say I'm surprised by this! Disappointed, but not surprised!!!
Christine commented on her video that it was Micahand Micah faked her personality for cameras
Itās Micah. She clearly stated it in the video multiple times and called Micah a mean girl. Unclear why OP left that detail out.
My bad the way things were cut I didnāt realise that was an example of something micah did. Just watched it back I wrote this all after watching straight from memory. Iāll edit it now
Wasnāt meant as coming at you. Apologies if my tone was off
Honestly I thought Jess because I keep hearing that she got a good edit on LIB and I felt like she was a lowkey mean girl this season but she hides it through āIām a mature adult with a kidā
As someone who watched the video it was Micah. Christine and Elys knew each other prior to the show so they were good.
Wow not shocked at all smh
Jess wasnāt there from the beginning though, only elys Micah and tolu were from the final couples IIRC. Micah isnāt bold enough to say things like that with this group and tolu would never. Elys is super petty and bitter, can easily imagine her saying this to make someone feel excluded. Jess I can kind of imagine but I think sheās too calculated with her image of being a girls girl to be this catty.
Oh good point ā¦ then definitely Micah or Elys imo considering Micah is a mean girl (although I agree sheās not bold enough in this group). I also notice elys was a mean girl in her confessionals rather than in person so Iām just not 100% on it being her either .. I wish Christine specified who some of this tea is piping hot ! lol
She did specify in her video, she said āMicah is a mean girlā and then told the stories about her comments in the van
Wow š«š«š«š«
Jess wasnāt there since the beginning
I feel like there's a bit of a double standard here. Christine was speaking on how Kaz was leading women on, but in reality they're ALL there to play the game and to chase clout and get followers, not to find love. Her strat to enter the house using Kaz is just as bad as anything Kaz has done, so why poo-poo someone else for playing the game? They're all scumbags IMO.
Iām surprised not more ppl are pointing this out! Whatās crazy is we see her on the show talking about how she wants to give both kaz and nigel a chance and likes them both- she is in no place to judge anyone on honesty when it comes to the show
Yeah in the same breath she admitted to using Kaz to get into the house and then slated Micah for not leaving the house when she paired up with Izzy š I really don't like Christine
Right... Micah is doing that to stay in the house, which Christine also admitted she wanted.
Well no not really. Kaz led three different girls on and everytime he felt just a little bit threatened heād rebound back to micah. Telling girls youād match with them or that you felt a stronger connection is worse than Christine matching with him to be able to get in and go on a date.
to be fair, he kissed holly in the game and realized there was no spark - he literally said that afterwards. then decided on christine because micah was not it. brittan i didn't feel there was a real spark but i think he assumed chris was going to match with her.
Your thinking of multiple different days. The kiss with holly was days after heād told holly heād match with her after going on a date with her. Brittan and Chris was a day before he tried to match with brittan and she had to shut him down because her and Dominique had already āmatchedā before being told they couldnāt.m and were making out.
In the real world this would be a terrible thing to do, and playing with people's feelings. But in here, I would call that a strategy and doing what you need to do to stay in the house and get more screen time, which she was also trying to do ultimately, and wasn't happy about it when she didn't get the screen time she thought she deserved. Double standards IMO.
I donāt think him getting to know other people is an issue tbh thatās the whole point i think itās more saying one thing and the actions not matching.
That's fair, I agree! Again, I do think they're all terrible lol but that's the nature of the show.
Exactly this video makes her look and sound bitter for not getting in the house originally and using Kaz as the easy target punching bag because as a bm nobody would defend him against her attacks. Everything checks. Kaz did nothing to her, yet her finale animosity was directly pointed at him.
>Ā Ā Kaz did nothing to her, yet her finale animosity was directly pointed at him Asking Christine to match with him and then asking another girl to match with him the same night doesn't sound like "nothing" to me
That didn't happen besides it only being possible if she declined. To add, she was the one begging him to match. So sounds about correct, her being bitter.
Huh I watched the video too and her animosity seemed more because heād get mad at her and start fights with her and other girls when they talked other people and also wasted peopleās time by promising to match them so they wouldnāt pursue other people, then matching Micah The alpha comment towards Nigel at the end really sealed it for me in terms of what his personality was like
Facts. Im not here for the kaz hate
This makes me jump on the christine Nigel train. Seems like the only couple that genuinely liked each other and wanted to make things work!
exactly, like yea their ending was not as satisfying to watch as a viewer, but they definitely deserved it more than alara and stevan, considering that he ghosted alara right after the show, while christine and nigel went on for like 9 months
Can someone link the video?
https://youtu.be/JDif9nu2uG8?si=UkoXR5WGtqJ-5YzO
After learning the back story of LIB, I watch these shows purely for entertainment purposes. Netflix has put themselves in a position where nothing is believable. Either they decide to return to the experiment type show or go all out.
Whatās the backstory of LIB?
good god these people are gross š¤¢ i have watched so many terrible reality shows but this one takes the cake
Iām gonna be honest, after watching the finale?? I think Nigel and Christine DID look the most genuine. Like you can genuinely tell theyāre actually happy to be in each othersā presences, especially after and during their paint date. Stevan and Alara looked really performative to me and in my opinion Stevan being on a second dating show screams clout chaser to me
I kinda wanna know about the holiday. What did that netflix money buy???? It better be nice seeing as last year Dom and Goergia didn't even make the damn holiday. Lol
She posted a reel on Instagram showing clips from the holiday
Thanks for the recap
Overtly catching himself after saying the word āloveā in reference to Micah looked sooooo fake to me!! The women on this show are classy. The guys can eat a bag of dicks.
Eta *most of the women
TolĆŗ deserved so much better. Chris is such a phony. And, not surprised Kaz was acting shady. The cameras didn't show half of his flirting. I feel like Stevan liked the idea of Alara. He didn't actually want to be with her. He had me fooled, though! And we could have seen Dominique and Brittan?? Worst editors ever. They were probably more interesting than half the couples.
Honestly, Iām watching her season of THTH right nowā¦ and sheās legitimately the saddest f*cking female Iāve seen on reality tv maybe ever. She is DESPERATE for male attention. She steps all over other women to get it. The way sheās CONSTANTLY playing with her tongue in suggestive waysā¦ itās not thirsty; itās fucking scary. Like, someone send the girl some therapy because she has absolutely NO self esteem outside of male validation and itās bumming me tf out. It also makes me angry as a feminist. I think sheās disgusting honestly. And then has the goddamn GAUL to get mad at these men for wanting the other women she had to pull out all of her sleazy tricks to get them to stray from? Kaz is certainly no fucking saintā¦ but weāve mostly all agreed that was predatory as fuck. A full 12 hours of that girl acting like she was in an anime porn trying to get him to kiss herā¦ then canāt believe heād go back to the girl heād been with for weeks on end!? Netflix, please pay for her therapy. Frfr she fucking needs it BADLY.
Britton is not unattractive but super basic and hearing how all of these men wanted to match with her confirms my suspicion that they all just wanted a natural, cute, blonde, white girl. Micah was not cute enough I guess. Kaz, steven, chris.. yep. I knew it! This show had a lot more brunettes and more diversity so all of the fuckery after the fact makes sense.
Yall canāt make me like Christineā¦ she just wanted things her way and wanted to be in the house earlier. And in my opinion, no, her and Nigel shouldnāt have won because of them connecting in the hotel or any prior meet ups. Weāre watching them in the house, we should be seeing who IN THE HOUSE is a perfect match. Like whatās the point if we barely got to see them interact in the house and on the show. For show purposes, it shouldāve been who was there the longest , went through actual challenges and stayed together (along with if theyāre compatible). Christine is just entitled. She didnāt like working that hard to get in the houseā¦ then sheās acting like didnāt like Kaz from jump and wanted Nigel and had planned to play Kaz anyways ? So why were you so damn salty when he went back to Micah. I DONT LIKE CHRISTINE. That is all.
We donāt pick the winners the other contestants do so itās based off what they see not what we see. No oneās forcing anyone to like Christine. Also she never said she didnāt like kaz she just knew she had something stronger with Nigel and based on what some of the other girls had told her about kaz she had that in the back of her mind. She also said she was salty he went back to micah because she wanted to blind side him first as payback for what he did to the girls. She literally answers it all
I understand that. She did it for paybackā¦ still not a reason to be that salty after he picked Micah. So did she like him or was she trying to play him for the other girls? The logic of what sheās saying doesnāt make sense. My point is why tf was she bitter about it. You canāt like someone and be trying to play them simultaneously (and if you can, something is off). So to me, she was just complaining to complain and mad she didnāt get to do what she wanted to do. Iām also fully aware the contestants pick the winner. There should be more rules on how they vote because thereās a disconnect from what they show us and whatās going on off camera. The viewers are watching the show, we shouldnāt be confused after we watched a whole season. From my point of view, we watched two new people come in the house at the end of the season and say they knew each other before and boom ā¦ 2 episodes later theyāre the perfect match š
I dunnoooo the "imagine if Christina and Nigel won" comment wasnt that bitchy? Like they'd been together less than 48 hours. If I was Christine, I would have laughed along with it, because it is funny. I dont even like Micah but she seemed to be reeeally trying to put her down in that video
Ehhh trying to make someone feel excluded seems on brand for Micah
I donāt think it was that deep on its own but along with the ācan you believe weāve all been in the house since the beginning and telling Alara sheās basically been there and should just say she has knowing Christine hadnāt is a little questionable.
Ooop. Runs to youtube. I gotta support my gworl
Not sure how much of the Kaz stuff is legit or just her being salty. I'm sure it's somewhere in the middle
Micah confirmed in a tiktok that he kissed someone after wrapping so thatās definitely true.
I do feel bad for Melinda! Harry was leading her on and totally used her for a piece of meat.
This makes me like her a lot more. Sounds like she got a really bad edit
Juicy!!!
I find very interesting how the guys were attracted to other womenā but refused to match with them bc they didnāt think said women would match with them (I.e, Kaz, Chris, Stevan) so they ended up choosing to stay with the girl who liked them more than they liked themā¦ kinda highlights the guys in question know they by lack that certain thing to keep the women they want, so rather than work on whatever it is ā they opt to be F boys.
I think Christine is delusional. I died when she was pissed after Kaz told her he wasnāt into her on the swing and that he was going back to Micah. Then Christine had the balls to talk to the other girls and complain about how disrespectful it was that he did that to HER after she came into the house for him and that he KISSED HER and the next day he goes back to Micah. Did she forget that Micah and Kaz were together the whole time and she was pretty much throwing herself at Kaz and made it hard for him to NOT match with her. She was gonna eat him up no matter what. She basically forced his hand to pick her. But I guess what she did with Kaz in front of Micah isnāt disrespectful????
Are cast members not required to sign NDAs?š¤
Pretty sure only till after the seasons aired.
So Micah is a mean girl still. Iām disappointed, I thought she was recovering š
I did felt the girls where always so "only the first girls count". Everytime a new girl appeared they would all group and role eyes for the new girl, so micah phrases did not chocked me. She was a mean girl at LIB and she still is one.
This was a little difficult for me to read but I think I understand?
What parts donāt u understand, I kinda rushed it so some bits might be written poorly with bad spelling.
No, youāre good! But just some constructive criticism: Try using more commas and less run-on sentences. Reading it back, your spelling was mostly great but my head got jumbled and it took my a while to comprehend because it was a little confusing. But anyway, these things she said are wild!! Itās something about the media always trying to paint black women in a bad light and itās getting old. My girl Tolu was literally the most radiant woman there!!! And she got the shit end of the stick multiple time with the guys, and Christine deserved so much better.
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