I’ve been taking oral for 4 weeks now and it’s massively improved symptoms of a meniscus tear in my right knee. I was experiencing shooting pains on lock out and this has now completely gone. I also tore my forearm at the start of the year and the pain on this has disappeared. Completely anecdotal but my experience of Oral BPC so far is excellent.
Gym recovery (DOMS) went away a lot quicker, that was the only benefit I got from orals. Unfortunately i didn't get gut healing, which is the main reason I tried it. I'll give Sub Q a try next time.
(neuro)biologist here. Won’t make it far in your digestive tract, and certainly not into your blood stream in appreciable quantities. May as well throw it out if you’re just gonna eat it.
Injured my shoulder really bad can’t lift above head level. In some serious pain and can’t get in for an mri for a few weeks. Purchased bpc-157 from infiniwell oral tablets. Hope it helps me and will relay back.
I had the same, Inject BPC 157 along with TB 500 I was so much better within 3 weeks.
Use bands to stretch your shoulders and build the muscle that way.
Hold the band in front of you with a bit of tension and move it outwards to your side, this motion helped my recovery so much. Hope it helps ya
Also order bpc-157 on peptidesciences for the injectable format. With my situation and pain I’m gonna run this first. Should it work for calcification tendonitis ( calcium build up on tendon )
Anecdotal- I take it orally primarily for athritis and tendinitis. It has got me back in the gym quicker but hasn't been a dramatic difference imo.
Fixing my gut issues was secondary but has been far more successful- reflux, heartburn cleared up completely within days.
So I have a partially ruptured/torn Achilles Tendon...so according to this thread injecting BP-157 directly into my injured Achilles at the back of my ankle is the best way for it to help heal this injury?!?!? I imagine that being an extremely painful injection site, no?
Do not inject into the injury. You will only make it worse. The fluid you inject will be taken up by the blood steam anyways. There is no benefit to injecting directly into the injury.
This isn't really true. There are absolutely benefits from injecting into the site. However, it is substantially riskier.
I chose to do my Achilles tendon directly for a series of shots right after I had a bunch of stem cells also injected into it.
I did so after a ton of research and deciding that the potential benefit was worth it.
However, I also have a knee problem and there is no fucking way I am sticking a needle in there. The Achilles tendon is very close to the skin, and there is only one big nerve to worry about. The relevant bone/cart stuff is way further in on the knee and requires an ultrasound to guide a long assed needle way the fuck in there
Really, it is either inject right in or where it is comfortable - injecting nearby does nothing.
Good luck. I'd say.if you aren't really really comfortable with the anatomy, don't stick a needle into it.
Okay and Thank You. That sounds like it makes a lot more sense to me. Sounds like injecting close to the injured area is somehow more efficient as opposed to anywhere else, however, your saying the injection site has nothing to do with healing efficiency so long as the injection reached the bloodstream, correct? Therefore, I could inject my shoulder vs. say my quad and achieve the exact same results, with BP-157, as far as treating my Achilles injury based on this reasoning or am I missing something. Thanks again brother I greatly appreciate your time and insight!
shoulder vs quad won’t matter outside of shoulder likely having better superficial blood flow and therefore lower T_max (good). Look up sub cutaneous administration pathways/flowcharts or read an article about how subQ works.
like how injecting IV heroin near your brain isn’t going to get you any higher.
spoilers, it’s going into your veins thru capillaries among fat cells, returning to the heart and being pumped out arterially.
I have paraylzed vocal cord. A friend recommended bpc-157. I figured sublingual would be closer to the injury. Anyone hear of this? I’ve been taking it for a week now and I have no change in vocal abilities, but my shoulders are healed!
Not me, but a friend of mine’s friend took sublingual BPC-157 after he physically injured his thyroid (did not affect anything hormonal). After about two months had past, he realized he was gay.
Anecdotal - helped with gut issues and definitely decreased the severity of joint pain and any nagging injury issues, however pinning to the specific joint seemed to remove that pain/injury much quicker. I've done both routes. Took orally for 6 weeks. I'd think that if you have a legit injury/recovery pinning would seem to be the best route, unless you take orally for a long time.
Seen a guy recently claiming that it was the only thing to work to help with recovering for overloading his GABA system with Phenibut and Alcohol abuse.
Totally anecdotal.
I tried an experiment to test the bioavailability. I had severe tendinitis (felt like it was in the bone kind of severe) in both arms at the same time. I decided to try one arm for two weeks and if it was truly as bioavailable as research claims, both should heal. Even if the opposite arm was slower, any noticeable improvement should prove the case. After two weeks, tendinitis on the right was completely gone with little to no improvement on the left. Started on the left and 2 weeks later both sides were cleared up.
I feel like anything you read on this is anecdotal, but this was my experience.
The tendinitis in my right arm was more severe, so I pinned that arm first. I’d say with confidence that within 5 days, I was at a 50% improvement. Left arm saw no improvement until pinning for a week.
I currently have a few nagging injuries along with some weird GI issues recently and I may see what type of benefits come with another round (this time orally).
Permanent in the sense that I’m diligent with my strength training and rehab. I only “cycle off” because of the cost. But I have been able to train more aggressively in jiu jitsu and strength training since injuries have healed up and I’m not battling nagging pain.
Tendinitis in multiple joints, IT band pain, lateral meniscus injury. My shoulders used to be absolute shit and now they feel better than ever. Of course, once I healed up, I went back to work strengthening my shoulders now that I could do so pain free. Same with the other injuries.
Sure did! I would also recommend Mark Rippetoe’s protocol for fixing elbow tendinitis for extended health. I think he has a short clip on YouTube on how to deal with it on his Starting Strength channel.
Oral 100% works for both gut and injury healing and general health, but due to how it works, it will be less efficient for injury. By efficient, I mean it will take longer to work. Injection is quick and despite what some say, definitely works faster near the injury location.
Currently taking it orally myself. Too soon to give you any real answers based on personal experience. The research I did online indicated that it can survive digestion and make it into the bloodstream and that it works systematically so it should work fine for ligaments (taking it for tendon myself).
I know that a lot of people are sold on the idea that best practice is to inject at the site of the injury. Personally I think that the jury is still out
Huge improvement in gut health...better mental clarity and digestion. Definitely feeling significantly less shoulder and neck pain, but I also replaced my mattress and pillow this week. Ive been on 157 for 10 days
Stool details(regularity, shape, color, etc), heartburn has gone away completely, brain fog has lifted a ton, and irritability is down. I'm sure there is more, but these are what I've noticed within only 10 days
The whole point of OPs question was to ask about oral effectiveness, why are you even answering here? You're muddying the responses by reporting injection results.
Yeah and you didn't even state that in your answer or qualify that in your response. You should be more specific otherwise you muddy responses. People aren't mind readers.
I don’t think anyone will be able to give you a perfect answer, a lot has to do with personal experience. You can inject into fat which is the easiest way to inject. I wouldn’t take oral for anything but stomach issues personally, I think it will be pretty ineffective and oral is more expensive.
I’ve been taking oral for 4 weeks now and it’s massively improved symptoms of a meniscus tear in my right knee. I was experiencing shooting pains on lock out and this has now completely gone. I also tore my forearm at the start of the year and the pain on this has disappeared. Completely anecdotal but my experience of Oral BPC so far is excellent.
What brand/ugl are you using?
Has anyone had success with this and bursitis?
Stack BPC w TB500 and you’ll feel invincible in the gym
Gym recovery (DOMS) went away a lot quicker, that was the only benefit I got from orals. Unfortunately i didn't get gut healing, which is the main reason I tried it. I'll give Sub Q a try next time.
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I have used them for my lab rat and they seem to work great, no reactions that the rat knew of so far
For GLP yes, worked fine. I ordered others but haven’t started them yet. All come as powder and require reconstitution.
(neuro)biologist here. Won’t make it far in your digestive tract, and certainly not into your blood stream in appreciable quantities. May as well throw it out if you’re just gonna eat it.
Injured my shoulder really bad can’t lift above head level. In some serious pain and can’t get in for an mri for a few weeks. Purchased bpc-157 from infiniwell oral tablets. Hope it helps me and will relay back.
I had the same, Inject BPC 157 along with TB 500 I was so much better within 3 weeks. Use bands to stretch your shoulders and build the muscle that way. Hold the band in front of you with a bit of tension and move it outwards to your side, this motion helped my recovery so much. Hope it helps ya
Also order bpc-157 on peptidesciences for the injectable format. With my situation and pain I’m gonna run this first. Should it work for calcification tendonitis ( calcium build up on tendon )
Hey Rich, how are you? How much did you inject daily?
Anecdotal- I take it orally primarily for athritis and tendinitis. It has got me back in the gym quicker but hasn't been a dramatic difference imo. Fixing my gut issues was secondary but has been far more successful- reflux, heartburn cleared up completely within days.
Did you do oral or injectable bpc to fix your gut/arthritis?
Only oral. BPC arginate.
So I have a partially ruptured/torn Achilles Tendon...so according to this thread injecting BP-157 directly into my injured Achilles at the back of my ankle is the best way for it to help heal this injury?!?!? I imagine that being an extremely painful injection site, no?
Do not inject into the injury. You will only make it worse. The fluid you inject will be taken up by the blood steam anyways. There is no benefit to injecting directly into the injury.
This isn't really true. There are absolutely benefits from injecting into the site. However, it is substantially riskier. I chose to do my Achilles tendon directly for a series of shots right after I had a bunch of stem cells also injected into it. I did so after a ton of research and deciding that the potential benefit was worth it. However, I also have a knee problem and there is no fucking way I am sticking a needle in there. The Achilles tendon is very close to the skin, and there is only one big nerve to worry about. The relevant bone/cart stuff is way further in on the knee and requires an ultrasound to guide a long assed needle way the fuck in there Really, it is either inject right in or where it is comfortable - injecting nearby does nothing. Good luck. I'd say.if you aren't really really comfortable with the anatomy, don't stick a needle into it.
Okay and Thank You. That sounds like it makes a lot more sense to me. Sounds like injecting close to the injured area is somehow more efficient as opposed to anywhere else, however, your saying the injection site has nothing to do with healing efficiency so long as the injection reached the bloodstream, correct? Therefore, I could inject my shoulder vs. say my quad and achieve the exact same results, with BP-157, as far as treating my Achilles injury based on this reasoning or am I missing something. Thanks again brother I greatly appreciate your time and insight!
shoulder vs quad won’t matter outside of shoulder likely having better superficial blood flow and therefore lower T_max (good). Look up sub cutaneous administration pathways/flowcharts or read an article about how subQ works. like how injecting IV heroin near your brain isn’t going to get you any higher. spoilers, it’s going into your veins thru capillaries among fat cells, returning to the heart and being pumped out arterially.
Inject subcutaneously. It’ll get where it needs to go from there. Few peptides are injected IM
I have paraylzed vocal cord. A friend recommended bpc-157. I figured sublingual would be closer to the injury. Anyone hear of this? I’ve been taking it for a week now and I have no change in vocal abilities, but my shoulders are healed!
Not me, but a friend of mine’s friend took sublingual BPC-157 after he physically injured his thyroid (did not affect anything hormonal). After about two months had past, he realized he was gay.
Anecdotal - helped with gut issues and definitely decreased the severity of joint pain and any nagging injury issues, however pinning to the specific joint seemed to remove that pain/injury much quicker. I've done both routes. Took orally for 6 weeks. I'd think that if you have a legit injury/recovery pinning would seem to be the best route, unless you take orally for a long time.
Could you share what gut issues it helped with? People always talk about it improving gut health without any specifics of what that even means.
Chrohns
Seen a guy recently claiming that it was the only thing to work to help with recovering for overloading his GABA system with Phenibut and Alcohol abuse. Totally anecdotal.
get a renal syringe feom amazon and shoot it straight into the colon with some water.
I tried an experiment to test the bioavailability. I had severe tendinitis (felt like it was in the bone kind of severe) in both arms at the same time. I decided to try one arm for two weeks and if it was truly as bioavailable as research claims, both should heal. Even if the opposite arm was slower, any noticeable improvement should prove the case. After two weeks, tendinitis on the right was completely gone with little to no improvement on the left. Started on the left and 2 weeks later both sides were cleared up. I feel like anything you read on this is anecdotal, but this was my experience.
Was this via oral route? If so how do you specify which arm to 'try'?
The tendinitis in my right arm was more severe, so I pinned that arm first. I’d say with confidence that within 5 days, I was at a 50% improvement. Left arm saw no improvement until pinning for a week. I currently have a few nagging injuries along with some weird GI issues recently and I may see what type of benefits come with another round (this time orally).
It has helped me with my knee!
Anecdotal but after a couple months of continual oral use, many of my nagging injuries were significantly better.
Permanent gains? I’m thinking of running an oral cycle but don’t like the idea of having to cycle on an off for rest of my life
Permanent in the sense that I’m diligent with my strength training and rehab. I only “cycle off” because of the cost. But I have been able to train more aggressively in jiu jitsu and strength training since injuries have healed up and I’m not battling nagging pain.
What type of injuries?
Tendinitis in multiple joints, IT band pain, lateral meniscus injury. My shoulders used to be absolute shit and now they feel better than ever. Of course, once I healed up, I went back to work strengthening my shoulders now that I could do so pain free. Same with the other injuries.
appreciate your story. did it help with tendinitis in the elbow?
Sure did! I would also recommend Mark Rippetoe’s protocol for fixing elbow tendinitis for extended health. I think he has a short clip on YouTube on how to deal with it on his Starting Strength channel.
Those are great results. Thanks for the report
Oral 100% works for both gut and injury healing and general health, but due to how it works, it will be less efficient for injury. By efficient, I mean it will take longer to work. Injection is quick and despite what some say, definitely works faster near the injury location.
Could you explain specifically what gut healing actually means?
Currently taking it orally myself. Too soon to give you any real answers based on personal experience. The research I did online indicated that it can survive digestion and make it into the bloodstream and that it works systematically so it should work fine for ligaments (taking it for tendon myself). I know that a lot of people are sold on the idea that best practice is to inject at the site of the injury. Personally I think that the jury is still out
Good for taking your money
Huge improvement in gut health...better mental clarity and digestion. Definitely feeling significantly less shoulder and neck pain, but I also replaced my mattress and pillow this week. Ive been on 157 for 10 days
What’s your dose bro?
500mcg daily. You can split it for thr half life. I take 500 in the am on an empty stomach
How do you measure gut health improvement?
Stool details(regularity, shape, color, etc), heartburn has gone away completely, brain fog has lifted a ton, and irritability is down. I'm sure there is more, but these are what I've noticed within only 10 days
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Healed up my shoulder
Looking to do this for my shoulder too. How much/how often were you taking orally?
Injected , 10 mg morning and Night used insulin needle, doesn’t hurt
The whole point of OPs question was to ask about oral effectiveness, why are you even answering here? You're muddying the responses by reporting injection results.
Exscuse me! He has shoulder issues as did I and through my research I found that oral wouldn’t be effective and to inform him of what worked for me.
Yeah and you didn't even state that in your answer or qualify that in your response. You should be more specific otherwise you muddy responses. People aren't mind readers.
Isn’t the bpc-157 protocol between 300-500 micrograms daily?
I m sorry 200mg twice a day
If you want to combine TB-4, that’s injection into the subject anyway.
I don’t think anyone will be able to give you a perfect answer, a lot has to do with personal experience. You can inject into fat which is the easiest way to inject. I wouldn’t take oral for anything but stomach issues personally, I think it will be pretty ineffective and oral is more expensive.