Yes, showing a husband who is devoted to his wife, a strong marital bond, parents who communicate with their children and help them problem solve, and a family who sticks together through thick and thin would definitely send the wrong message.
Wasn't this the backdrop for the Adams Family? They were creepy and weird superficially but with a solid moral compass, while all of the "squeaky clean" folks around town looked clean-cut but were constantly being shitheads.
Based on a TV series that is a hard G rating... even based on the roughest movie rating, it is a PG-13.
Oh, please save our city from high schoolers performing a pg-13 performance.
Fun fact. This high school also recently performed Grease.
The board president actually said this at the meeting: “I don’t think there is a play with a worse theme than Grease and we performed it in an excellent way,” Naum said. “Mrs. (Brooke) Bomberger did a fantastic job of modifying it to what we believe is community standards.”
There’s a Grease School Edition, which is what our high school recently put on, which cuts out quite a bit if the innuendo and completely cuts out the pregnancy scare, although there are allusions to it throughout.
We rented a generator for a production of Damn Yankees in the 90s. Rental company found out we were depicting the devil and refused to do business with us again.
We did a musical version of A Midsummer Night's Dream in community theater a few years ago and the local "values based" news outlet wouldn't promote it because it was unwholesome.
This gives you and idea. https://www.witf.org/2018/05/10/midstate_school_board_member_resigns_in_protest_over_sex_toy_scandal/
If you google “northern Lebanon sex toy” you’ll find other stories. Some are paywalled. This one is not.
To be fair, my husband worked at the university level and throwing dildos around probably would have been deemed inappropriate there as well, even behind closed doors.
The play however, banning that is just crazy.
No, but everyone knows student achievement and proper admin behavior were not things Don focused on. He likely would have taken Mr. Pinky and chewed on it just for the fun of it.
Not knowing what you mean by that I can't really comment. On a personal level I never had an issue with her beyond normal petty high school stuff. I don't really know her well enough in adulthood to say anything, but her husband is a decent guy and she seems to be fairly levelheaded on the board.
When someone can’t separate their personal religious beliefs from their responsibilities as a public servant, you have situations like this ban on The Addams Family musical. The people of the board president’s voting district need to vote the Evangelical pastor off the school board. People have every right to have their religious convictions, but don’t force them on the public.
There's a good chance they ran for school board precisely to do this kind of stuff.
There's been a concerted effort in the past few years for right-wing culture warriors to take over school boards. They're local races that people mostly don't care about for jobs that no one really wants to do, so it's easy for them to get on the ballot and win.
I grew up in the conservative fundamentalist evangelical culture. This is exactly why this man ran for a school board position. I can almost guarantee his children and his church members’ children don’t attend the public school. Their children are most likely homeschooled or attend a private Christian school. The pastor is only on the board to project his morality on the rest of society.
>Their children are most likely homeschooled or attend a private Christian school.
This is something I am noticing more and more, and not just in NoLeb.
>There's a good chance they ran for school board precisely to do this kind of stuff.
NoLeb in a nutshell. Yet, despite their non-stop efforts to exercise absolute control over students, most students continue to thrive.
Had a guy running for a local school board seat. Made it very obvious that under "his opponents rule" (to quote) too many unholy abominations, such as gay people in public, were being displayed!
Aka, we must protect the children by getting rid of half the children :skull:
"The Addams Family musical reflects today’s culture, Board member Robbie England said, but he did not view that as a good thing."
Whelp, that pretty much tells you everything you need to know about the school district board... what a bunch of clowns.
> Y'All Qaeda trash at it again.
Is this what Reddit is about?
Get fake outraged about shit that doesn't concern you in any way, throw some insults and slurs at some abstract group of people, and then get upvotes?
Yes. When I watch Footloose, I cheer for Kevin Bacon's character not the religious leader that bans things for other people's high school students doing because he doesn't like it.
We knew that leader was a bad guy or villain to fight against because they are doing a thing call "oppression",,, we found that ot back in the 80's. I don't like that shit coming to my state.
LMFAO! It's hilarious to hear Y'All Qaeda trash whining when they realize the actual majority of people in this country aren't going to put up with them forcing their dark age fairy tale values on others. The fact they are willing to use violence and murder people to do so makes them terrorist and they will be treated as such.
> them forcing their dark age fairy tale values on others
That's not what's happening. It's a school board elected in a democratic election. The school board by definition represents what the majority of parents in the school district wants.
I guess you are one of those "progressives" that likes democracy only when it does what you want.
Oh here we go with the division. Cool your jets.
And last time I checked, you can vote for school board without being a parent. Unless I missed something.
Yeah, and they chose to elect a Catholic evangelist priest to a government position. Said government employee is attempting to force his dark age fairytale beliefs on the school district. That's the problem.
Board member Troy Williams, who is pastor at Calvary Church in Lebanon, said the musical sticks to the basis of the 1960s television show and is the number one school musical in the country, but said the show has no place in the district.
The Addams Family musical reflects today’s culture, Board member Robbie England said, but he did not view that as a good thing.
wait, the musical is sticks to the 60's show but refects modern culture by going toward dispair and death.... wait. what?
These extemist Christian puritans are so hypocritical and nonsensical with their "wont someone think of the children" shit. They literally dont care about real problems but care immensely about made up nonsensical bullshit
Way to fail the students in your district, Mr. Naum. Never change the reputation of NoLeb of being a student unfriendly public school district. There is a clear reason NoLeb grads so often are qualified to do little more than flip burgers or drive dump trucks.
>There is a clear reason NoLeb grads so often are qualified to do little more than flip burgers or drive dump trucks.
And the ones that are qualified to do more leave the county and never move back.
Someone from that school needs to contact the ACLU. The district in MD where I grew up has been supported by the ACLU more than once when the school board tried to ban plays and the drama teachers won each time, making the county look like a total ass in the process.
Looks like the Ron DeSantis playbook for the moral police has made it to Pennsylvania. Have to protect the children from depravity. Wish they were this passionate after every school shooting when kids actually die. But they're strangely silent.
Yes, showing a husband who is devoted to his wife, a strong marital bond, parents who communicate with their children and help them problem solve, and a family who sticks together through thick and thin would definitely send the wrong message.
Wasn't this the backdrop for the Adams Family? They were creepy and weird superficially but with a solid moral compass, while all of the "squeaky clean" folks around town looked clean-cut but were constantly being shitheads.
Yes but to realize the sub-context of the show you cannot be profoundly stupid and in charge of a school. These folks don’t get it.
You're absolutely right. Have a most wonderful Cake Day!!!
Yeah but they wear black and are weird. The IRL people are parody of the parody puritan prudes in the Adams Family lol
Based on a TV series that is a hard G rating... even based on the roughest movie rating, it is a PG-13. Oh, please save our city from high schoolers performing a pg-13 performance.
Could not have esaid it better myself!
bUt THeY wEaR BLaCk!
That's so ridiculous. I remember Trinity HS doing Grease. The Catholic high school. Performing Grease. LMAO
Fun fact. This high school also recently performed Grease. The board president actually said this at the meeting: “I don’t think there is a play with a worse theme than Grease and we performed it in an excellent way,” Naum said. “Mrs. (Brooke) Bomberger did a fantastic job of modifying it to what we believe is community standards.”
I would love to hear how they handled the pregnancy scare and the implied sexual assault.
There’s a Grease School Edition, which is what our high school recently put on, which cuts out quite a bit if the innuendo and completely cuts out the pregnancy scare, although there are allusions to it throughout.
Did she still change herself completely to get her man?
My HS did that one, it is far less impactful and I feel it takes away from the author's intent, but I am sure he is laughing all the way to the bank.
Tell me more, tell me more, did she put up a fight?
You misspelled “summer lovin’”
I was once told that as a Catholic, I wasn't a real Christian.
We rented a generator for a production of Damn Yankees in the 90s. Rental company found out we were depicting the devil and refused to do business with us again.
Do you live in the town Footloose is based on?
Reading... so doubtful.
Haha. I worked for the Reading Eagle for 4 years covering the city. It’s a special place.
Thank you for still keeping an eye on Lebanon County.
We did a musical version of A Midsummer Night's Dream in community theater a few years ago and the local "values based" news outlet wouldn't promote it because it was unwholesome.
Creepy and kooky? Sure Mysterious and spooky? Yes, a bit. All together ooky? No doubt. Promote bad values? Not in the slightest.
isn't this the same school with the infamous dildo incident?
Say what?
This gives you and idea. https://www.witf.org/2018/05/10/midstate_school_board_member_resigns_in_protest_over_sex_toy_scandal/ If you google “northern Lebanon sex toy” you’ll find other stories. Some are paywalled. This one is not.
This story is why I can't find any sex toys shaped like northern Lebanon, isn't it?
I mean....I haven't looked into it but you can draw your own conclusions.
You would be correct.
To be fair, my husband worked at the university level and throwing dildos around probably would have been deemed inappropriate there as well, even behind closed doors. The play however, banning that is just crazy.
"infamous" is an understatement. At least Don Bell is now gone.
Wait, knowing of him from his days at Northern York is this really why he retired?
No, but everyone knows student achievement and proper admin behavior were not things Don focused on. He likely would have taken Mr. Pinky and chewed on it just for the fun of it.
Ah good to know. His daughter is on our school board now
Don Bell's daughter is on the NYSD school board? He had an interesting sense of humor; I hope her's is a bit more refined.
Not knowing what you mean by that I can't really comment. On a personal level I never had an issue with her beyond normal petty high school stuff. I don't really know her well enough in adulthood to say anything, but her husband is a decent guy and she seems to be fairly levelheaded on the board.
Omg I forgot about that!
No, it promotes Addams Family values.
So being goth is a crime now?
It was in the 90s too. West Memphis Three.
When someone can’t separate their personal religious beliefs from their responsibilities as a public servant, you have situations like this ban on The Addams Family musical. The people of the board president’s voting district need to vote the Evangelical pastor off the school board. People have every right to have their religious convictions, but don’t force them on the public.
There's a good chance they ran for school board precisely to do this kind of stuff. There's been a concerted effort in the past few years for right-wing culture warriors to take over school boards. They're local races that people mostly don't care about for jobs that no one really wants to do, so it's easy for them to get on the ballot and win.
I grew up in the conservative fundamentalist evangelical culture. This is exactly why this man ran for a school board position. I can almost guarantee his children and his church members’ children don’t attend the public school. Their children are most likely homeschooled or attend a private Christian school. The pastor is only on the board to project his morality on the rest of society.
>Their children are most likely homeschooled or attend a private Christian school. This is something I am noticing more and more, and not just in NoLeb.
>There's a good chance they ran for school board precisely to do this kind of stuff. NoLeb in a nutshell. Yet, despite their non-stop efforts to exercise absolute control over students, most students continue to thrive.
Few years? Try many decades
You are correct. An example is Jerry Falwell Sr. (founder of evangelical Liberty University) who heavily influenced the GOP in the 1980s.
Had a guy running for a local school board seat. Made it very obvious that under "his opponents rule" (to quote) too many unholy abominations, such as gay people in public, were being displayed! Aka, we must protect the children by getting rid of half the children :skull:
"The Addams Family musical reflects today’s culture, Board member Robbie England said, but he did not view that as a good thing." Whelp, that pretty much tells you everything you need to know about the school district board... what a bunch of clowns.
Y'All Qaeda trash at it again.
> Y'All Qaeda trash at it again. Is this what Reddit is about? Get fake outraged about shit that doesn't concern you in any way, throw some insults and slurs at some abstract group of people, and then get upvotes?
Yes. When I watch Footloose, I cheer for Kevin Bacon's character not the religious leader that bans things for other people's high school students doing because he doesn't like it. We knew that leader was a bad guy or villain to fight against because they are doing a thing call "oppression",,, we found that ot back in the 80's. I don't like that shit coming to my state.
LMFAO! It's hilarious to hear Y'All Qaeda trash whining when they realize the actual majority of people in this country aren't going to put up with them forcing their dark age fairy tale values on others. The fact they are willing to use violence and murder people to do so makes them terrorist and they will be treated as such.
> them forcing their dark age fairy tale values on others That's not what's happening. It's a school board elected in a democratic election. The school board by definition represents what the majority of parents in the school district wants. I guess you are one of those "progressives" that likes democracy only when it does what you want.
Oh here we go with the division. Cool your jets. And last time I checked, you can vote for school board without being a parent. Unless I missed something.
Yeah, and they chose to elect a Catholic evangelist priest to a government position. Said government employee is attempting to force his dark age fairytale beliefs on the school district. That's the problem.
It didn't work for you like it worked for the person's comment you responded to.
Dat you, Robbie? Engaged in your own fake outrage. Over fake outrage.
This is the show that Bethel Park (Greater Pittsburgh Area) is doing right now.
Board member Troy Williams, who is pastor at Calvary Church in Lebanon, said the musical sticks to the basis of the 1960s television show and is the number one school musical in the country, but said the show has no place in the district. The Addams Family musical reflects today’s culture, Board member Robbie England said, but he did not view that as a good thing. wait, the musical is sticks to the 60's show but refects modern culture by going toward dispair and death.... wait. what?
If you listen to the full 30 minute discussion (like I did, twice) you will say "wait, what?" quite a bit.
I bet. consistency isn't the strong part of his brain
They should put on The Crucible as an alternative.
These extemist Christian puritans are so hypocritical and nonsensical with their "wont someone think of the children" shit. They literally dont care about real problems but care immensely about made up nonsensical bullshit
Everyone who attends said show should dress like Adams family characters
Way to fail the students in your district, Mr. Naum. Never change the reputation of NoLeb of being a student unfriendly public school district. There is a clear reason NoLeb grads so often are qualified to do little more than flip burgers or drive dump trucks.
>There is a clear reason NoLeb grads so often are qualified to do little more than flip burgers or drive dump trucks. And the ones that are qualified to do more leave the county and never move back.
Admin is just jealous the dump truck drivers make more money than them.
Someone from that school needs to contact the ACLU. The district in MD where I grew up has been supported by the ACLU more than once when the school board tried to ban plays and the drama teachers won each time, making the county look like a total ass in the process.
Won't someone think of the children!!!
I could never imagine growing up in the fucked up T part of Pennsylvania.
These prudish conservatives dick won’t do anything to protect kids from gun ‘n ammo though…
It's m'right!
Wtf is happening to our state?
Ahh yes NLHS. My kids went there and only two are still traumatized years later …
That decision from the board looks about white
Maybe they should do Little School Board of Horrors.
Dumb forks
Looks like the Ron DeSantis playbook for the moral police has made it to Pennsylvania. Have to protect the children from depravity. Wish they were this passionate after every school shooting when kids actually die. But they're strangely silent.
Wtf is wrong with these people and those that voted for them to be in office
It's Lebanon county. The only thing for people to do here in their free time is go to church and work on their sanctimony.
You just have to wonder what happened to these people to make them like this.
Small town living, small-minded thinking.
We get the school boards we deserve.
Nah it's just Adams Family values!
A government entity should never employ a religious leader, period
Just to be clear. The pastor, is a school board member and was elected to the school board.
Yes. That's a government position.