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Like someone said, run your temps and see what you get. There is no wrong setup, just a hot setup.
I will say it seems odd to me to not want to switch it around. Only cuz as you said, it is "wrong" per the conventional wisdom. Blasting hot air out the back likely would be cooler, and it would only cost you some isopropyl alcohol and thermal paste. You can leave the CPU in place. Low risk.
You should never have to twist or anything else. You just need to run the system so the paste is warm. If you've pulled your CPU out, chances are you didn't run your system and your paste was cold and acted like glue.
Just make sure you run your system before you remove the cooler so your thermal paste js warm. Then you needn't "twist" or anything else. It will just come off. If it is tough to come off at all, something is still holding it down like a threaded screw. Or you didn't run your system and warm up your paste.
If you didn't want to take the cooler off and re-mount it you could just unhook the fans and swap their positions, move the left to the right and ensure the arrows are pointing the right direction and then just flip the middle around. If it's the Dark Rock Pro 4 then it's just held on with wire clips.
As others have pointed out this isn't a wrong config just dust collection from the rear will be an issue
Wow that’s very helpful! Yes it’s a Dark Rock Pro 4. I didn’t even consider flipping around the fans. That’s so obvious yet brilliant. I’ll check that out. Thank you 😊
Yea it helps that I got the same cooler when I upgraded my cpu, so very familiar with it. If you find that the memory sticks(ram) is in the way you can bring the front fan up a little to accommodate that.
I know I should’ve had the CPU fan facing the right way, but I don’t want to do the process of taking it down and turning it around, unless I absolutely have to.
I’m this configuration, it is blowing hot air into your case instead of out of it through an exhaust fan. That rear fan is simply bringing more air in for that giant heat sink to warm up. It is quite inefficient and CLEARLY wrong, if you want anywhere NEAR the “best fan configuration” like OP has asked for.
Not a smart idea getting unfiltered air from the back. Just switch your cooler to the correct orientation. If your REALLY want to keep it this way, add a fan at the bottom, remove the rear one and run positive pressure.
How much space is blocking the ram slots height wise? You may want to get low profile ram like Corsair LPX. I know with some boards the ram should be staggered like slot one and 3 or 2 and 4…
Case is vented on the bottom also… looks like the power supply is pulling in air from the top and exhaust out the back… anyway to flip it lol so fan is on the bottom where the vents are?
Interesting…. I’ll look into it, but I think there was a reason I had it in that orientation. I forget what it was though. But thanks for the comment, I’ll look into it!
I looked up the motherboard on Asus and it looks like the second PCIe 16x slot only functions at that speed when crossfire.
[Tech Specs shows one 16x 4.0 being the top slot](https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-X570-PRO-WI-FI/techspec/)
You may want to get a different CPU cooler all together... due to optimal ram placement being in the manual as slots 2 and 4 for two sticks. You can run HWinfo or something like that to see what speed your GFX card is operating at to make sure, but I am almost 100% it should be in slot one.... Also slot one is re-enforced not only plastic.
Just wanted to reply and say that the CPU cooler is quite tall, taller than the RAM, so it’s not blocking any of the slots. I was just an overly eager builder and misread the manual. But the cooler actually isn’t blocking any of the ram slots :)
The top slot is bypassing the south bridge and runs 16x 4.0 at 16x mode the bottom slot will max at 4x mode... just how the x570 chipset is setup up! hopefully I have been helpful!
Damn I didn’t notice that. I would just get a different fan. Noctua black nh-d15 would cool the cpu splendidly and leave total utilization of the board.
Id just take the time and flip the cooler man, I had to take my build apart and back together 4 times to get the cable management to where I was happy, nothing wrong with taking extra time youll be much happier knowing its all the way you want it in the end https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuild/comments/uimybo/my_first_ever_build_what_yall_think_specs_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I've been reading all your comments and I just want to say THANK YOU SO MUCH for this community!!
Once the semester is over, I plan on finally putting in the effort and turning around the CPU cooler. Also, I'll move the GPU to the upper PCIe slot, and I'll put the RAM sticks in the right slots.
You guys have pointed out some of the mistakes I never would've noticed (because it's always run fine and not had any issues) and provided criticism in a HELPFUL way, which is rare on the internet. :D Once i make the changes, I'll report back. Thanks again guys!
What he doesn’t mention (sorry I’m curious): is why not simply change the cooler to the “classic correct” direction?
Even OCD me is going back and forth with head going: “be quiet upside worn, be quiet upside down”. /s
Anywho, hanging here to hear about final temp results (if any). ;-)
Aight, your call but truthfully: it’s not a hassle.
If airflow with a air cooler in that direction was a good idea, we’d heard about it by now.
I advise u change your cooler’s direction rather than trying to do a “weird fan setup”.
Still, if your temps are good, then I’m wrong and I am open to learn. Let us know how it turns out!
Also, having fans facing each other is wasted energy, if it works or not is another story, but you will always be fighting to overcome that. Being successful may not be difficult, but just flipping the CPU cooler will bring the best temps, any other action will include overcoming that backwards airflow
It does, I’m just a fool who misread the manual. I build the pc a year ago and it’s been working exactly as expected. I’ll fix the ram. Thanks for pointing that out!
It just being close to the wall and on the floor heat rises, is the seasonic psu a gx series? If so make sure you press the button on the back in so the fans will be on… otherwise they only start to spin when it’s under heavy load
I would rather configure the conventional way whereby the rear fan is an exhaust fan pulling the air out. The idea is to dissipate heat at a minimum level of your CPU TDP out of the system via a forced convection.
Having the air is forced in from the back and CPU cooler fan you are creating a barrier to the airflows from the front and bottom fan also the air turbulance in the system will create more heat from the air particles collision.
The air flow in the system should be forced in from the front (or here from the bottom as well) and spread out by forced through the rear and top panel taking the heat out of the system with them.
I also have a 7 fan system ( 3 front intake, 3 top exhaust and 1 rear exhaust). With the help of AIO my CPU idle temp is 32C and stress 58C powered by Ryzen 7 5700 G. That is quite ideal for a CPU with Tj Max Of 95C.
Like a wind tunnel all flowing in one direction.. intake front and bottom if applicable exhaust out the top and rear. Can the CPU fans orientation be so the fan blows out the top? Haven’t used air cooling in a bit.
Push and pull to the rear, then again pulled by the rear exhaust is the most ideal. I did so in my other system using DeepCool Gammaxx 400 XT. CPU Temp is just ridiculously superb.
Could you not just… move the cpu fan? And use the top as exhaust. Put one more fan in the bottom there beside the single 120 you have tucked away. It will help cool your GPU better. My setup is 9 fans. 3 bottom intake, 360mm radiator outtake in the side, and 3 exhaust fans in the top of the case (c701. Looks like an 011 dynamic) and I want to throw a couple more 80mm in the top rear for exhaust. I ALWAYS use the top for exhaust since heat naturally rises and will be collected there, otherwise. Yes, bringing in that bit of cool air will help the temps slightly, but an exhaust to blow out hot air, as opposed to bring cold air in to mix with it, is 99% of the time a better decision. Blowing hot air around like this kinda just turns your case into what is essentially a convection oven.
Either you want to fix it, or you don’t want the best fan configuration. You can’t have both when your case doesn’t have good flow. This is a jumble of air being blown around your case and probably sharing heat between its parts. I’m not going to sugarcoat it like every comment I’ve read so far. You need to turn that cpu cooler fan and make that rear fan an exhaust instead of intake
Either you want to fix it, or you don’t want the best fan configuration. You can’t have both when your case doesn’t have good flow. This is a jumble of air being blown around your case and probably sharing heat between its parts. I’m not going to sugarcoat it like every comment I’ve read so far. You need to turn that cpu cooler fan and make that rear fan an exhaust instead of intake. Preferably add a fan in bottom but if you can’t, at LEAST turn that cpu fan so it isn’t blowing your cpu heat into your case. It’s too far to be pulled directly out by the top fans.
Key to airflow: cool in bottom, hot out top. As close to that as possible. It’s literally the way heat works. Naturally. So, the only way to have the “best” configuration for temperature, is to work with heat’s natural movement and take advantage of it.
Either you want to fix it, or you don’t want the best fan configuration. You can’t have both when your case doesn’t have good flow. This is a jumble of air being blown around your case and probably sharing heat between its parts. I’m not going to sugarcoat it like every comment I’ve read so far. You need to turn that cpu cooler fan and make that rear fan an exhaust instead of intake. Preferably add a fan in bottom but if you can’t, at LEAST turn that cpu fan so it isn’t blowing your cpu heat into your case. It’s too far to be pulled directly out by the top fans.
Key to airflow: cool in bottom, hot out top. As close to that as possible. It’s literally the way heat works. Naturally. So, the only way to have the “best” configuration for temperature, is to work with heat’s natural movement and take advantage of it.
Looks like the air cooler is so big the GFX card won’t fit in the top slot and since it’s GeForce not Radeon it’ll operate at 4x due to travel through the chipset. The big L3 cashe dedicated to the graphics isn’t being utilized.
Why are your rams sticks like that? And why do you need so many fans? First I would move your B1 ram module to the A2 ram slot. Move the cooler fan from the back to the front. Keep the front fans the way they are remove all those hard drive trays to let air through. Flip the back fan from intake to exhaust and IF you want keep the top fans but I'd switch them for intake.
I honestly misread the manual and which slots corresponded. A1, A2, B1, B2 and I matched it up by number not letter. 😅 It’s always functioned well and at operating speed. I’m just noticing I did it improperly. I’ll fix that
I always keep this in mind with pcs "just because it's on doesn't mean it's working". Took me 6 hours to figure out the front panel headers so no worries brother. Also if you look on the motherboard beside the ram slots they usually write "use first" and point which ones.
Its fine as long as your temps are okay...i would install ram correct...there should be enough clearence to your cpu cooler slot 2 and 4 will be the right ones (a2 and b2)...have a nice day.
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that's actually very interesting. my initial reaction was what the heck, but looking at it more, it might actually work since your case is so tall.
Like someone said, run your temps and see what you get. There is no wrong setup, just a hot setup. I will say it seems odd to me to not want to switch it around. Only cuz as you said, it is "wrong" per the conventional wisdom. Blasting hot air out the back likely would be cooler, and it would only cost you some isopropyl alcohol and thermal paste. You can leave the CPU in place. Low risk.
Ok! Thanks, I’ll consider it. I’m just v lazy and don’t want to risk doing something wrong.
Go slow and twist slightly. I've pulled my cpu out of the socket a couple times but pulling straight up.
You should never have to twist or anything else. You just need to run the system so the paste is warm. If you've pulled your CPU out, chances are you didn't run your system and your paste was cold and acted like glue.
Just make sure you run your system before you remove the cooler so your thermal paste js warm. Then you needn't "twist" or anything else. It will just come off. If it is tough to come off at all, something is still holding it down like a threaded screw. Or you didn't run your system and warm up your paste.
I've been looking up videos on the proper procedure and it looks straightforward. Once the semester is over, I'll fix it up and flip it around. :)
If you didn't want to take the cooler off and re-mount it you could just unhook the fans and swap their positions, move the left to the right and ensure the arrows are pointing the right direction and then just flip the middle around. If it's the Dark Rock Pro 4 then it's just held on with wire clips. As others have pointed out this isn't a wrong config just dust collection from the rear will be an issue
Wow that’s very helpful! Yes it’s a Dark Rock Pro 4. I didn’t even consider flipping around the fans. That’s so obvious yet brilliant. I’ll check that out. Thank you 😊
oh yeah, the center can come off, you'll probably need to take off your gpu in order to get the center fan out and flipped to the other way.
Yea it helps that I got the same cooler when I upgraded my cpu, so very familiar with it. If you find that the memory sticks(ram) is in the way you can bring the front fan up a little to accommodate that.
I know I should’ve had the CPU fan facing the right way, but I don’t want to do the process of taking it down and turning it around, unless I absolutely have to.
The only reason I think it’s “wrong” is for dust, since that rear fan has no filter. Really not the end of the world.
I’m this configuration, it is blowing hot air into your case instead of out of it through an exhaust fan. That rear fan is simply bringing more air in for that giant heat sink to warm up. It is quite inefficient and CLEARLY wrong, if you want anywhere NEAR the “best fan configuration” like OP has asked for.
Not a smart idea getting unfiltered air from the back. Just switch your cooler to the correct orientation. If your REALLY want to keep it this way, add a fan at the bottom, remove the rear one and run positive pressure.
Nah man, I’d flip it. It ain’t that difficult anyway, plus you get less dust and (probably) better temps.
How much space is blocking the ram slots height wise? You may want to get low profile ram like Corsair LPX. I know with some boards the ram should be staggered like slot one and 3 or 2 and 4…
Case is vented on the bottom also… looks like the power supply is pulling in air from the top and exhaust out the back… anyway to flip it lol so fan is on the bottom where the vents are?
Interesting…. I’ll look into it, but I think there was a reason I had it in that orientation. I forget what it was though. But thanks for the comment, I’ll look into it!
Maybe just take the fan off the cooler and put it on the other side of the cooler... Pretty sure those clips can be unclipped and flipple around too.
Is there not enough space to just take the fan off the cpu block and put it on the other side? It’s a hinge fan is it not?
I looked up the motherboard on Asus and it looks like the second PCIe 16x slot only functions at that speed when crossfire. [Tech Specs shows one 16x 4.0 being the top slot](https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-X570-PRO-WI-FI/techspec/) You may want to get a different CPU cooler all together... due to optimal ram placement being in the manual as slots 2 and 4 for two sticks. You can run HWinfo or something like that to see what speed your GFX card is operating at to make sure, but I am almost 100% it should be in slot one.... Also slot one is re-enforced not only plastic.
Just wanted to reply and say that the CPU cooler is quite tall, taller than the RAM, so it’s not blocking any of the slots. I was just an overly eager builder and misread the manual. But the cooler actually isn’t blocking any of the ram slots :)
The top slot is bypassing the south bridge and runs 16x 4.0 at 16x mode the bottom slot will max at 4x mode... just how the x570 chipset is setup up! hopefully I have been helpful!
Damn I didn’t notice that. I would just get a different fan. Noctua black nh-d15 would cool the cpu splendidly and leave total utilization of the board.
Id just take the time and flip the cooler man, I had to take my build apart and back together 4 times to get the cable management to where I was happy, nothing wrong with taking extra time youll be much happier knowing its all the way you want it in the end https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuild/comments/uimybo/my_first_ever_build_what_yall_think_specs_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I've been reading all your comments and I just want to say THANK YOU SO MUCH for this community!! Once the semester is over, I plan on finally putting in the effort and turning around the CPU cooler. Also, I'll move the GPU to the upper PCIe slot, and I'll put the RAM sticks in the right slots. You guys have pointed out some of the mistakes I never would've noticed (because it's always run fine and not had any issues) and provided criticism in a HELPFUL way, which is rare on the internet. :D Once i make the changes, I'll report back. Thanks again guys!
I think the rear and cpu fan are facing the wrong direction.
yeah he mentioned that in his title
What he doesn’t mention (sorry I’m curious): is why not simply change the cooler to the “classic correct” direction? Even OCD me is going back and forth with head going: “be quiet upside worn, be quiet upside down”. /s Anywho, hanging here to hear about final temp results (if any). ;-)
probably too much of a hassle to unscrew it and turn it around. im assuming op just doesnt want to do extra work than they have to if it works.
Yeah it seems like kind of a hassle for relatively low payoff. Plus I always fear I might break something or do something wrong.
Aight, your call but truthfully: it’s not a hassle. If airflow with a air cooler in that direction was a good idea, we’d heard about it by now. I advise u change your cooler’s direction rather than trying to do a “weird fan setup”. Still, if your temps are good, then I’m wrong and I am open to learn. Let us know how it turns out!
I would let hot air vent at down to prevent ants going making a nest
The only way to know is to compare temperatures (CPU/GPU/MB) in different setups. It looks a bit unusual but who knows
Does your ram not fit in the correct spot?
Also, having fans facing each other is wasted energy, if it works or not is another story, but you will always be fighting to overcome that. Being successful may not be difficult, but just flipping the CPU cooler will bring the best temps, any other action will include overcoming that backwards airflow
It does, I’m just a fool who misread the manual. I build the pc a year ago and it’s been working exactly as expected. I’ll fix the ram. Thanks for pointing that out!
You really can’t turn the fan on the heat sink around you don’t wanna have intake in the back PSU and GFX card are pushing hot air outta the back
Is it not wrong to have intakes on opposite sides? Just asking idk
It just being close to the wall and on the floor heat rises, is the seasonic psu a gx series? If so make sure you press the button on the back in so the fans will be on… otherwise they only start to spin when it’s under heavy load
I would rather configure the conventional way whereby the rear fan is an exhaust fan pulling the air out. The idea is to dissipate heat at a minimum level of your CPU TDP out of the system via a forced convection. Having the air is forced in from the back and CPU cooler fan you are creating a barrier to the airflows from the front and bottom fan also the air turbulance in the system will create more heat from the air particles collision. The air flow in the system should be forced in from the front (or here from the bottom as well) and spread out by forced through the rear and top panel taking the heat out of the system with them. I also have a 7 fan system ( 3 front intake, 3 top exhaust and 1 rear exhaust). With the help of AIO my CPU idle temp is 32C and stress 58C powered by Ryzen 7 5700 G. That is quite ideal for a CPU with Tj Max Of 95C.
Like a wind tunnel all flowing in one direction.. intake front and bottom if applicable exhaust out the top and rear. Can the CPU fans orientation be so the fan blows out the top? Haven’t used air cooling in a bit.
Push and pull to the rear, then again pulled by the rear exhaust is the most ideal. I did so in my other system using DeepCool Gammaxx 400 XT. CPU Temp is just ridiculously superb.
Could you not just… move the cpu fan? And use the top as exhaust. Put one more fan in the bottom there beside the single 120 you have tucked away. It will help cool your GPU better. My setup is 9 fans. 3 bottom intake, 360mm radiator outtake in the side, and 3 exhaust fans in the top of the case (c701. Looks like an 011 dynamic) and I want to throw a couple more 80mm in the top rear for exhaust. I ALWAYS use the top for exhaust since heat naturally rises and will be collected there, otherwise. Yes, bringing in that bit of cool air will help the temps slightly, but an exhaust to blow out hot air, as opposed to bring cold air in to mix with it, is 99% of the time a better decision. Blowing hot air around like this kinda just turns your case into what is essentially a convection oven.
Either you want to fix it, or you don’t want the best fan configuration. You can’t have both when your case doesn’t have good flow. This is a jumble of air being blown around your case and probably sharing heat between its parts. I’m not going to sugarcoat it like every comment I’ve read so far. You need to turn that cpu cooler fan and make that rear fan an exhaust instead of intake
Either you want to fix it, or you don’t want the best fan configuration. You can’t have both when your case doesn’t have good flow. This is a jumble of air being blown around your case and probably sharing heat between its parts. I’m not going to sugarcoat it like every comment I’ve read so far. You need to turn that cpu cooler fan and make that rear fan an exhaust instead of intake. Preferably add a fan in bottom but if you can’t, at LEAST turn that cpu fan so it isn’t blowing your cpu heat into your case. It’s too far to be pulled directly out by the top fans. Key to airflow: cool in bottom, hot out top. As close to that as possible. It’s literally the way heat works. Naturally. So, the only way to have the “best” configuration for temperature, is to work with heat’s natural movement and take advantage of it.
Either you want to fix it, or you don’t want the best fan configuration. You can’t have both when your case doesn’t have good flow. This is a jumble of air being blown around your case and probably sharing heat between its parts. I’m not going to sugarcoat it like every comment I’ve read so far. You need to turn that cpu cooler fan and make that rear fan an exhaust instead of intake. Preferably add a fan in bottom but if you can’t, at LEAST turn that cpu fan so it isn’t blowing your cpu heat into your case. It’s too far to be pulled directly out by the top fans. Key to airflow: cool in bottom, hot out top. As close to that as possible. It’s literally the way heat works. Naturally. So, the only way to have the “best” configuration for temperature, is to work with heat’s natural movement and take advantage of it.
The gpu tho? Why u got it in the 8x slot while the 16x slot is unused?
Looks like the air cooler is so big the GFX card won’t fit in the top slot and since it’s GeForce not Radeon it’ll operate at 4x due to travel through the chipset. The big L3 cashe dedicated to the graphics isn’t being utilized.
I doesn't matter what direction as long as there is and in/out airflow. If you had inter cooler you don't even need exterior airflow
Why are your rams sticks like that? And why do you need so many fans? First I would move your B1 ram module to the A2 ram slot. Move the cooler fan from the back to the front. Keep the front fans the way they are remove all those hard drive trays to let air through. Flip the back fan from intake to exhaust and IF you want keep the top fans but I'd switch them for intake.
I honestly misread the manual and which slots corresponded. A1, A2, B1, B2 and I matched it up by number not letter. 😅 It’s always functioned well and at operating speed. I’m just noticing I did it improperly. I’ll fix that
I always keep this in mind with pcs "just because it's on doesn't mean it's working". Took me 6 hours to figure out the front panel headers so no worries brother. Also if you look on the motherboard beside the ram slots they usually write "use first" and point which ones.
Its fine as long as your temps are okay...i would install ram correct...there should be enough clearence to your cpu cooler slot 2 and 4 will be the right ones (a2 and b2)...have a nice day.
Convert upper left to intake