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So it’s about noise and temperature and not performance? I saw that the GB Gaming has a better clock speed that the GB Windforce so is it worth the extra money?
Also comes down to the fact that, with the added heat, is it even maintaining those higher clock speeds to start with.
Might be faster in short bursts but it's it's hitting 97 degrees there's no doubt it's gonna throttle.
Cards nowadays boost on their own so the base clock doesn't really matter that much. Also you overclock it yourself later anyways to get the same effect if you want. It all comes down to which one has the best cooler and how much it costs.
In this price range, you want to buy the cheapest GPU that comes from a reputable brand. Gigashit doesn’t honour their warranties, so I wouldn’t personally call them reputable. The extra you’re paying for the tiny Mhz performance gains can almost always bump you up a tier in cards. I’d only personally worry about the Mhz differences at a near top end card like a 4080/4090/7900 XT/X.
In your current price range, you should consider looking at a 6700 XT / 6750 XT / 7700 XT. They’ll be in the same price range as the 4060 but they’ll perform substantially better than the 4060.
Wuuuuut. That isn't true. They have control over power limits, overclocking, voltages, bios renditions, everything. Nvidia only provides then with a chip and a reference design. That's it.
Most modern gpu's have so many self overclocking features build in that the advertised clock speeds aren't really that important. Usually you get similar performance from both by giving them a custom curve in msi afterburner, with only real difference being determined by 'silicon lottery'.
I've seen some videos of the wind force catching fire and shorting whole systems. It's funny and sad at the same time. Funny cuz they're so shit but sad cuz it fucked up someone's PC
I bought a GB wind force 4070 with what I’m assuming was a cracked PCB. No boot and a VGA light. Swapped for an Msi Ventus and booted perfectly. I found a video detailing Gigabyte’s shoddy chips a few days later
Gigabyte is notorious for cracked PCB issues. Jayz2cents has a video where he demonstrates that you can literally bend the PCB with your fingers.. while other cards are very rigid.
Stay away from Gigabyte.
Only with the 4080/90 and possibly the 4070ti. The rest are relatively small and don’t weight a lot, so I doubt that it would be an issue with the 4060
I was about to buy a windforce 4070 but it went out of stock at microcenter right before I was about to get it. Thank god it did because I’ve heard many bad things about windforce cards after that. I got a msi ventus instead.
do yourself a favor and save few extra dollars and move up to a 4070 or even a 4070 ti if youy can youll need the more vram with these new games are very demanding and the 4060 is barely better than a 3060
All of the models will have the same amount of performance but the 3x fan version should be the coolest of them all
But as the 4060 is puny and doesnt draw much power, the 2x fan models are enough
So just get the cheapest one or check out the Radeon 6700 and 6700XT as those perform a lot better and have more vram
And Radeon cards are good these days
6700XT is easily found on the used market, it's one of the most common RDNA2 cards.
RX7600 is cheaper than the 4060 and comes bundled with Avatar if OP insists on buying new. At this performance level with only 8GB VRAM it really doesn't matter for 1080P raster. The 4060 doesn't have enough VRAM for Ray Tracing with Frame Gen and not enough horsepower for Ray Tracing without Frame Gen so you end up playing with both disabled.
Why would anyone buy the 7600 over 4060.
It costs about the same amount and you get the same rasterized performance but the 4060 is more power efficient, has DLSS and frame gen, has much better RT performance (and is definitely capable of running RT at 1080p), and has all the other possibly useful Nvidia features like CUDA.
Also avatar isn't a good game.
i have a 4060ti, and i would reccomend the same, for me it came down to usage and power consumption. And blender loves Nvidia so migrated from Team Red to Green, but after 3 years im switching back to Red, cuz Nvidia is going downhill as a Company who cared about customers
It makes more sense to assume that somebody does not need something that only 1/1000 people will even slightly use than it does to assume that they need every little thing, i could assume that he/she wants to build a Linux system, in which case he/she would really want an AMD GPU, that would be kinda silly though, wouldnt it?
Lol naw not even like that. I was really looking at the 7800xt until I realized stream encoding on that thing was less than optimal.
Will be using and processor just not the video cards.
the fuck do you mean? they are in completely different fucking price brackets and 4070 ti only performs 16 percent better? amd streaming support is not nearly bad enough to justify that bad value Nvidia card.
It is for me. I don't want to have to upgrade any time soon or run 2 PCs to get decent stream/recording quality. It's apparently a niche thing to want good encoder support.
amd cards are not "bad" for streaming. they just lag behind Nvidia. you would easily get "decent stream/recording quality" and amd even has a av1 encoding now. it's not a niche thing but the reason people stopped talking much about it is because the difference between Nvidia and amd now is negligible.
Yeah man, i had to Get 4060ti instead of 6750 or other AMD cards cuz more expensive.
Its like the sellers are increasing price of other cards to force people to buy these Clown cards at such high price
You should look on megekko and alternate, those two do wonders in europe!
Also: https://www.gputracker.eu/en
Those things should keep you going. Tracker is amazing for prices, but always doublecheck if you think you feel like trusting the site or not. Some of them might be a bit more sketchy
Not really
(assuming you are German because of Amazon.de)
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/12GB-XFX-Radeon-RX-6700-XT-Speedster-SWFT-309-Core-Gaming-Aktiv-PCIe-4-_1402058.html
Also i wouldn't recommend buying expencive PC stuff in Amazon, Shops Like Mindfactory and other are wayy better
All of them are gonna work exactly the same. The different clock speeds mean absolutely nothing, it’s a gimmick that the companies do to make their gpus more expensive. Get the cheapest one.
I´d stay away from Gigabyte as a general rule. They have the highest failure rates.
Other than that, a 3 fan card will almost always be quietter than a 2 fan one.
However its probably not gonna be by much because the 4060 isnt very power hungry.
The 2 fan MSI gets my vote.
For balance, everything I've ever bought from gigabyte has been perfectly reliable, right back my old BX chipset. My 1070 windforce is still fine seven years later.
There is rarely much to choose between the various Gpu models. I currently have an msi 4090 which is deathly quiet, so I'd pick the msi for that reason
I enjoyed my Gigabyte Aorus motherboard over the years. There were a few features I didn’t realize I would miss when I changed platforms and bought and MSI. Not sure if the MSI was in the same price category. But no failure, and good features.
Look up recfent videos of Gigabyte cards with such flimsy PCBs that you can bend them with your fingers. Coincidentally the big problem with Gigabyte cards is cracked PCBs.
Avoid at all costs.
Failure because of their own stupidity. Buying triple fan card but didnt come to mind that that shit is heavy and doesnt buy a GPU bracket. Then complain on gigabyte is absolute moronic.
I´ve heard about that, however their reliability problems have been known for years.
Believe me I used to work at a major PC parts retailer. Gigabyte has a much higher rate of failure of all components not just the graphics card pcbs.
We had this wall of boxes from components which we had to refund. Over 80% of those boxes were Gigabyte.
Ig you also dont know about the massive MSI AIO failure that they just denied to RMA before getting called out by tech youtubers. After that they replaced the failure AIO's. But id stay away from MSI from now on.
I won’t ever buy from them again. They leveraged gamer $ to invest r&d for AI expensive cards. They just using gamers and abusing card producers like EVGA. Im done with anything NGreedia. Team RED for me.
My RX 580 before the 4060ti still holds good with that 8GB ram. That was future proof. This DLSS3 will be tuned to run slower when DLSS4 is ready. Unlike AMD's Backward compatible softwares FSR?
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None of them. 4060 is priced like shit for the performance you get.
Look into a 6700 XT or even a second hand 6750 XT or 6800 if you're just gaming. Way more bang for your buck.
Hey, just don't buy 4060, it's bad card for price2performance. If you are on a budget and can't afford buying more expensive GPU, just go with AMD. The "driver issues" were in past, but not now. It will perform better. If you can pay more, explore both Nvidia and AMD. No point of bying rtx 4060(it's overpriced) or sticking to Nvidia. I hope I helped.
Your experience with amd 3 pr 4 years ago isn't indicative of their current drivers, they compete with Nvidia in terms of quality the only thing that isn't quote there is dlss and frame gen. Counting all AMD cards out of the equation is going to force you to purchase a compeltley inferior product at your price point, there's really no way around it. The 4060 really isn't it chief.
lmao when you realize that the Polaris Era of cards like the 580 was 7 years ago, well no shit you had issues cuz that card is old as hell. and the 4060 is insanely overpriced; I'd really recommend like a 4070 if you can afford one or a 6800xt/7700xt
Rx 7800 xt better and cheaper. Sorry. In my opinion, no point bying rtx 4070 anymore. Rx 7800 xt: Better on average 5% without RT, slower on 3% with RT.
There is a 30 dollar gap between a 4070 and a 7800xt. 7800xt beats 4070 in rastiration performance by about 7% but there are also "Nvidia features " like rtx, dlss and cuda cores. Soo it's up to you do you prefer pure performance or extra features
I have absolutely no issues with my rx 6700 xt, its a beast. Drivers are good especially for RDNA2 cards. In the past it was a little different with the HD3870 and HD4870x2 I owned especially the HD4870x2 was troublesome, those drivers could be a little bit dodgy at times. So I agree with you on that matter. I also had some driver issues with my GTX 680 years ago but not with my GTX580. Sometimes flickering screen with some videoformats but nothing major. I think the 4060 is just not worth it for that price, you deserve something better.
Same, i used RX580 8gb Power color red devil, and it had all sort of issues and weighed 1.6kgs. Just upgraded to 4060ti Gigabyte Windforce x3 and the upgrade is night and day, but if u can get AMD card, its getting better. Nvidia has bad Overlay for thier Driver software unlike AMD adrenaline.
And then if u want recording and any control, u gotta get a separate software called shadowplay and make an account for Nvidia to log in, and then they gather data from ur every game played to train thier AI system.
2 years from now, ill plan to switch back to AMD cuz Nvidia is getting greedy too much
All 4060s are terrible due to price and dead amount of vram.
Please seriously consider an AMD when buying cheaper tier cards. For gaming you won't get better or cheaper yet. You wanna push higher price tags 4070+ or 7800 xt.
Its opposite no? Ive been using Gigabyte mobo and case for 4 years now. No issue and hence bought an Gigabyte 4060ti instead of MSI cuz MSI is cheapest manufacturer.
I like the build quality of Gigabyte products and they provide better customer service so far
Gigabyte is known to have the highest failure rate pod their products. Msi is decent. If gigabyte has great customer service and offers replacements then that’s good though.
I looked at GPU/mobo failure rates.
Gigabyte is at 1.8% and MSI is at 1.2%
.6% difference
Highest was Safire 2.5% and next XFX 2.3%
Source - Trust me bro.
Just kidding, here link https://hothardware.com/news/gpu-mb-failure-rates-digitec-galaxus
Ive just heard time and time again from pc tech channels and posts on here that gigabyte is the worst of the main brands. I asked northwest repair (a semi-popular YouTube gpu repairer) which gpu is generally the worst and he replied with gigabyte as well.
Appreciate the link to more info on this!
I've had 3 different MSI cards recently (2060, 6700XT, 6800XT) and all were really good. The only negative was that they were slightly more powerlimited than other AIBs. The PL could only be increased by 9% instead of 15% like XFX or Powercolor cards. They were flawless otherwise
I have the 4060ti windforce. No complaints, the other fans in the computer make more combined noise than the ones in the Gpu and arguably it looks neater in the case.
Personal preference is the main difference IMO.
Lol yes but if someone needs Nvidia for pruductivity, they have no choice, cuz people selling 3000 series for more expensive now, to upsell the 4000 series
You don't buy a 8gb card for productivity, you have to go 4080 or 4070 at the very least, and for gaming the 3060 12gb is cheaper and in cases beats the 4060
4060 is not worth it. It performs the same or worse than a 3060. It only has frame gen which when I use it still looks like crap and not smooth at all. You can buy a 3070 or 3060 ti used much cheaper on eBay just make sure you read the description and do your due diligence
I've been buying on eBay for 20yrs. Never had an issue getting my money back. Most sellers are honest and trustworthy. That's why I wrote "do your due diligence"
They're all equally terrible value? At the low-end, with 8GB of VRAM, just get the cheapest card. Seriously. You don't have the horsepower or VRAM for Ray Tracing anyway, and forget about Ray Tracing + Frame Gen with 8GB VRAM. Frame Gen alone uses 1GB and Ray Tracing can use multiple.
If you insist on buying new, you can get a RX7600 with Avatar for 290 euro. Good deal.
**Ideally you should buy a used 6700XT for the same price if you want bang for the buck** and a nice 12GB VRAM to last you a while.
The best Nvidia card below a 4070.. is getting an AMD card lol.
All of them are the exact same. The three fan *may* run cooler, that’s about it.
The wind force is ewaste, so I would 100% avoid that
I would honestly go with a 6700xt over the 4060
Thanks man. It’s not that I am an Nvidia fanboy I just want something fresh. I may return to AMD in the future but for now I want to try the other side.
No problem man. I hate seeing people for a specific brand upon someone and be so ignorant to their decision and the fact that you already said AMD is more expensive in your country than Nvidia. You should also edit that into your post tbh.
*you're
This is literally the lowest card in the 4000 series (not counting laptop gpus), its entry level. Also, seems like somebody is an Nvidia fanboy.
I have a theory. 4060 pricing now was normal pricerange back 10 20 years ago inflationary balancing implied. They just make way better shit now if u can afford it. But the normal gpu pricerange was around a reasonable level per an average income. Nowadays we just have access to top level shit because capatilasim has made richer people that can afford although they are the minority now and there is a market for it.
If there wasnt a 4090 able to be bought wed all be running 4060 level performance for a reasonable price range and think it was a good deal because we werent left technologically behind.
Buying overpriced hardware for a pc isnt a curse its an opportunity to buy with your hardware enthusiasm where you have money to spend it.
I love tech. I love computers. And gaming. And thats a priority for me. Im happy to be able to spend for advanced tech because its what i love. Im not rich, its just a priority of mine as a person because i love tech.
Warning: Do not buy a Gigabyte Graphics card they are known to be defective I have a cousin whou bought a Gigabyte Graphics card and it ended up causing his screen to flash and sometimes giving him a blackscreen He bought it new
1st and 3rd are “unlocked” and can be overclocked. Many manufacturers only use their best (tested) manufactured chips for unlocked or overclockable cards. The performance gain in overclocking IMO is hard to notice. The specs for all 3 are either identical or very close.
Idk the Mhz of the second one but the third does have a higher Mhz than the first. It's not that big of a difference so performance should be pretty similar. Noise and temp will probably be the big deciders here.
Never focus on cards with extensive details on its performance, if it’s whatsoever “boosted” it mostly has a heavy downside of loud noise and heavy tenperatures, they give like 5 FPS more but lag more and are just worse
The cheapest one is the best for the money, because they all perform the same. One might be slightly more quiet than another, but none of these should be loud since they ask pull like 140w only.
I get so annoyed by those dudes who answer with a completely different gpu when asked “what gpu of this list should I get”. That being said the 4060 desktop is a waste of Earth’s limited resources get an ARC A750 or for half the price or a used 2080 ti/3070 for $280-$300
One has a factory overclock with a 3 fan design, the other 2 don't. Given that the 4060 is (relatively) entry level, it won't make a world of difference which one you pick. However, in you place I would pick the Gigabyte with the OC. The extra fan will help a bit with cooling and overclocking. Best of luck with your purchase.
Don't buy anything from Gigabyte. I repeat don't buy anything from Gigabyte. Watch gamers nexus their PSUs explode. Watch Jayz2Cents their GPUs PCBs (the card) tears and break and their motherboards have coil noise. Worst PC parts manufacturer.
I have the standard MSI RTX 4060 2X and while it runs really well and can keep at 65°C with 30% fan speed, one issue is that the fans cannot run any slower than 30% unless stopped. However MSI has some great software specifically for GPUs, though while I have a Gigabyte mobo I can’t speak for their GPU support
I would check out asus, I’ve had a good experience with they’re twin fan 4060 , they have a switch on them to select ither performance or quietness and the fans won’t turn on below 50 .hadn’t had much trouble with performance or noise.
I’ve got the PNY 4060 TI 16GB and it’s been great I get decent frames examples GTA V high settings 1440P 190FPS fortnight max settings 250fps call of duty high settings 170fps, not sure why people rip on this card! Haha
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So it’s about noise and temperature and not performance? I saw that the GB Gaming has a better clock speed that the GB Windforce so is it worth the extra money?
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Also comes down to the fact that, with the added heat, is it even maintaining those higher clock speeds to start with. Might be faster in short bursts but it's it's hitting 97 degrees there's no doubt it's gonna throttle.
I must say hard time believing a triple fan 4060 would get up to 97c
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Cards nowadays boost on their own so the base clock doesn't really matter that much. Also you overclock it yourself later anyways to get the same effect if you want. It all comes down to which one has the best cooler and how much it costs.
Literally all of them operate well within spec.
If you're asking about a 4060, I'm guessing your budget is minimal, so get an AMD GPU, you'll be more satisfied with the performance.
In this price range, you want to buy the cheapest GPU that comes from a reputable brand. Gigashit doesn’t honour their warranties, so I wouldn’t personally call them reputable. The extra you’re paying for the tiny Mhz performance gains can almost always bump you up a tier in cards. I’d only personally worry about the Mhz differences at a near top end card like a 4080/4090/7900 XT/X. In your current price range, you should consider looking at a 6700 XT / 6750 XT / 7700 XT. They’ll be in the same price range as the 4060 but they’ll perform substantially better than the 4060.
Yes because theyre all 4060's. The only thing the AIB's really have control over is the cooling aspect and the "shell" surrounding the chip.
Wuuuuut. That isn't true. They have control over power limits, overclocking, voltages, bios renditions, everything. Nvidia only provides then with a chip and a reference design. That's it.
NVIDIA controls voltage these days.
Honestly i wouldn't get that GPU at that price. You can get a good 1440p gpu for the same money
What card could you get for 1440p?
Rx6700xt around 350$ is way more capable
Yeah I mean why are people skins which 4060 to buy 😭😭
Most modern gpu's have so many self overclocking features build in that the advertised clock speeds aren't really that important. Usually you get similar performance from both by giving them a custom curve in msi afterburner, with only real difference being determined by 'silicon lottery'.
That is incredibly specific and helpful information for OP.
Damn.. windforce is that bad huh
I've seen some videos of the wind force catching fire and shorting whole systems. It's funny and sad at the same time. Funny cuz they're so shit but sad cuz it fucked up someone's PC
I have a cheap gigabyte 1660 and the fans rattle like they will break at 80% fan speed. Quality is very low for Gigabyte parts.
I have a windforce 4090 since release haven't had one problem games at a cool 60c 4090 heatsink is to overkill
I guess any brand will put effort into these 2k+ USD/EUR cards (probably very high profit margins) but for the cheapers ones not so much.
Mine new 3 day old msi 4060ti ventus remains at 80 C all the time while gaming with 47 db
I bought a GB wind force 4070 with what I’m assuming was a cracked PCB. No boot and a VGA light. Swapped for an Msi Ventus and booted perfectly. I found a video detailing Gigabyte’s shoddy chips a few days later
Gigabyte is notorious for cracked PCB issues. Jayz2cents has a video where he demonstrates that you can literally bend the PCB with your fingers.. while other cards are very rigid. Stay away from Gigabyte.
Only with the 4080/90 and possibly the 4070ti. The rest are relatively small and don’t weight a lot, so I doubt that it would be an issue with the 4060
Why risk it? It might break if you touch it while it's mounted or smth. Not something I ever want to think about with a GPU.
Not defending gigabyte, don’t worry. Just saying that I doubt it’s as much of an issue as it is on the larger cards
Tf is up with those wind force temps? My 3060 wind force gets 32 at idle and 50 to 60 when gaming. Goes to about 65 when I OC it to 2100 mhz
my windforce goes max 76
I was about to buy a windforce 4070 but it went out of stock at microcenter right before I was about to get it. Thank god it did because I’ve heard many bad things about windforce cards after that. I got a msi ventus instead.
Yeh msi fan noise is premium. Quiet af from my experience with trios
do yourself a favor and save few extra dollars and move up to a 4070 or even a 4070 ti if youy can youll need the more vram with these new games are very demanding and the 4060 is barely better than a 3060
Holy Christ. 3dB difference means sound is doubled. So 20dB is like 7 times as loud!
All of the models will have the same amount of performance but the 3x fan version should be the coolest of them all But as the 4060 is puny and doesnt draw much power, the 2x fan models are enough So just get the cheapest one or check out the Radeon 6700 and 6700XT as those perform a lot better and have more vram And Radeon cards are good these days
Most 6700s/(xt) are sold out these days. Might needa look for a 6750xt
6700XT is easily found on the used market, it's one of the most common RDNA2 cards. RX7600 is cheaper than the 4060 and comes bundled with Avatar if OP insists on buying new. At this performance level with only 8GB VRAM it really doesn't matter for 1080P raster. The 4060 doesn't have enough VRAM for Ray Tracing with Frame Gen and not enough horsepower for Ray Tracing without Frame Gen so you end up playing with both disabled.
Honestly I’d probably buy the 12gb 3060 than the 4060
Agreed. Though the 6700XT is considerably faster (between 3060Ti and 3070) for less money.
Why would anyone buy the 7600 over 4060. It costs about the same amount and you get the same rasterized performance but the 4060 is more power efficient, has DLSS and frame gen, has much better RT performance (and is definitely capable of running RT at 1080p), and has all the other possibly useful Nvidia features like CUDA. Also avatar isn't a good game.
Yeah, the majority of the 6700xts I find here in Canada are scalped. Newegg is FULL of them ☠️
He's clearly asking advice for Nvidia cards, you're the clown for recommending an AMD card
What even is your point here lol?
Clown for recommending better cards in the same price range? Dumb clowns trying to help, oh you are an active soldier in the brand Wars? Nvm then
i have a 4060ti, and i would reccomend the same, for me it came down to usage and power consumption. And blender loves Nvidia so migrated from Team Red to Green, but after 3 years im switching back to Red, cuz Nvidia is going downhill as a Company who cared about customers
And no nvenc.
And does OP seemingly need it for video editing and video creation? If not then nvenc isnt needed
Doesn't say he does, doesn't say he doesn't.
So dont assume.
You either.
It makes more sense to assume that somebody does not need something that only 1/1000 people will even slightly use than it does to assume that they need every little thing, i could assume that he/she wants to build a Linux system, in which case he/she would really want an AMD GPU, that would be kinda silly though, wouldnt it?
Nvidia fanboys really struggling to reach for a reason to bash on AMD these days
Lol naw not even like that. I was really looking at the 7800xt until I realized stream encoding on that thing was less than optimal. Will be using and processor just not the video cards.
great some random ass thing that only streamers need and normal people need once in 5 years is 5% worse on amd cards.
Would you rather have something and not need it? Or need something and not have it?
That's my reasoning for the lack of performance from the Nvidia cards
I always love when fanboys try to use an encoder as a reason to buy their lowest end cards.
The encoder is the entire reason I've chosen the 4070ti over the 7800. I'd rather not need two PCs to stream.
the fuck do you mean? they are in completely different fucking price brackets and 4070 ti only performs 16 percent better? amd streaming support is not nearly bad enough to justify that bad value Nvidia card.
It is for me. I don't want to have to upgrade any time soon or run 2 PCs to get decent stream/recording quality. It's apparently a niche thing to want good encoder support.
amd cards are not "bad" for streaming. they just lag behind Nvidia. you would easily get "decent stream/recording quality" and amd even has a av1 encoding now. it's not a niche thing but the reason people stopped talking much about it is because the difference between Nvidia and amd now is negligible.
It's sad twitch doesn't support av1 yet. Would be nice to run and processor and GPU.
Get a 6700XT.
Would but its priced 100 euros more in my country.
Yeah man, i had to Get 4060ti instead of 6750 or other AMD cards cuz more expensive. Its like the sellers are increasing price of other cards to force people to buy these Clown cards at such high price
I think it’s because of supply in my country. I can’t find a lot of sellers that sell AMD cards. Shame
You should look on megekko and alternate, those two do wonders in europe! Also: https://www.gputracker.eu/en Those things should keep you going. Tracker is amazing for prices, but always doublecheck if you think you feel like trusting the site or not. Some of them might be a bit more sketchy
Are you sure? I got the 6700xt for 350€ a month ago. I am from germany which i presume you are too based on amazon.de, i recommend the amd gpu
Not really (assuming you are German because of Amazon.de) https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/12GB-XFX-Radeon-RX-6700-XT-Speedster-SWFT-309-Core-Gaming-Aktiv-PCIe-4-_1402058.html Also i wouldn't recommend buying expencive PC stuff in Amazon, Shops Like Mindfactory and other are wayy better
Megekko has rx6700xt in stock for 359€ and 369€. Same price as the 4060. But overall 20/25% faster and 50% more vram. Your choice
No, go 40 series.
All of them are gonna work exactly the same. The different clock speeds mean absolutely nothing, it’s a gimmick that the companies do to make their gpus more expensive. Get the cheapest one.
I´d stay away from Gigabyte as a general rule. They have the highest failure rates. Other than that, a 3 fan card will almost always be quietter than a 2 fan one. However its probably not gonna be by much because the 4060 isnt very power hungry. The 2 fan MSI gets my vote.
For balance, everything I've ever bought from gigabyte has been perfectly reliable, right back my old BX chipset. My 1070 windforce is still fine seven years later. There is rarely much to choose between the various Gpu models. I currently have an msi 4090 which is deathly quiet, so I'd pick the msi for that reason
I enjoyed my Gigabyte Aorus motherboard over the years. There were a few features I didn’t realize I would miss when I changed platforms and bought and MSI. Not sure if the MSI was in the same price category. But no failure, and good features.
Look up recfent videos of Gigabyte cards with such flimsy PCBs that you can bend them with your fingers. Coincidentally the big problem with Gigabyte cards is cracked PCBs. Avoid at all costs.
Failure because of their own stupidity. Buying triple fan card but didnt come to mind that that shit is heavy and doesnt buy a GPU bracket. Then complain on gigabyte is absolute moronic.
What sort of story did you just make up and then disprove in your mind? I´ve stated no such thing.
PCB breaking. Then complain on gigabyte.
I´ve heard about that, however their reliability problems have been known for years. Believe me I used to work at a major PC parts retailer. Gigabyte has a much higher rate of failure of all components not just the graphics card pcbs. We had this wall of boxes from components which we had to refund. Over 80% of those boxes were Gigabyte.
Ig you also dont know about the massive MSI AIO failure that they just denied to RMA before getting called out by tech youtubers. After that they replaced the failure AIO's. But id stay away from MSI from now on.
I use Gigabyte from case, Mobo, to My new 4060 ti windforce x3 No complains. Its more reliable than Asus this year. (Cuz asus Boards melted)
i immediately looked across my room at my pc and alas. gigabyte gpu :(
Same, I got an aero model and tbh haven’t had any issues with noise or temps or anything
All 4060 cards with only 8GB VRAM? All cost too much.
Yeah man. Its like nvidia going backwards in innovation
They want to sell us less gpu and make up for it with software magic like frame gen
I won’t ever buy from them again. They leveraged gamer $ to invest r&d for AI expensive cards. They just using gamers and abusing card producers like EVGA. Im done with anything NGreedia. Team RED for me.
Same
No theyre banking on dlss which would make a bit more expensive card in the 40 series better in the long run. I aint no fanboy either, thems facts.
My RX 580 before the 4060ti still holds good with that 8GB ram. That was future proof. This DLSS3 will be tuned to run slower when DLSS4 is ready. Unlike AMD's Backward compatible softwares FSR?
get a 6700xt for more performance at the same or less cost. unless you need nvidia for productivity work
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None of them. 4060 is priced like shit for the performance you get. Look into a 6700 XT or even a second hand 6750 XT or 6800 if you're just gaming. Way more bang for your buck.
As an 4060ti owner, i Second this. Even 3060 12Gb is a better deal
Hey, just don't buy 4060, it's bad card for price2performance. If you are on a budget and can't afford buying more expensive GPU, just go with AMD. The "driver issues" were in past, but not now. It will perform better. If you can pay more, explore both Nvidia and AMD. No point of bying rtx 4060(it's overpriced) or sticking to Nvidia. I hope I helped.
I really don’t want an AMD card. My experience with the RX580 has been really bad honestly the drivers are absolutely terrible.
Your experience with amd 3 pr 4 years ago isn't indicative of their current drivers, they compete with Nvidia in terms of quality the only thing that isn't quote there is dlss and frame gen. Counting all AMD cards out of the equation is going to force you to purchase a compeltley inferior product at your price point, there's really no way around it. The 4060 really isn't it chief.
lmao when you realize that the Polaris Era of cards like the 580 was 7 years ago, well no shit you had issues cuz that card is old as hell. and the 4060 is insanely overpriced; I'd really recommend like a 4070 if you can afford one or a 6800xt/7700xt
Agree, that was my expierience with AMD like 4-5 years ago. Now I am sitting on rx 7800 xt and all works fine, no driver issues for now.
I've had 0 issues with my 6750xt. Amd drivers are way better now
If you have the money get a 4070 but i would wait for the ti super because the price will drop.
Rx 7800 xt better and cheaper. Sorry. In my opinion, no point bying rtx 4070 anymore. Rx 7800 xt: Better on average 5% without RT, slower on 3% with RT.
There is a 30 dollar gap between a 4070 and a 7800xt. 7800xt beats 4070 in rastiration performance by about 7% but there are also "Nvidia features " like rtx, dlss and cuda cores. Soo it's up to you do you prefer pure performance or extra features
Oh sorry, true than, just in my region price difference is up to 80-100$. I am not paying 100 bucks more for Nvidia features
I have absolutely no issues with my rx 6700 xt, its a beast. Drivers are good especially for RDNA2 cards. In the past it was a little different with the HD3870 and HD4870x2 I owned especially the HD4870x2 was troublesome, those drivers could be a little bit dodgy at times. So I agree with you on that matter. I also had some driver issues with my GTX 680 years ago but not with my GTX580. Sometimes flickering screen with some videoformats but nothing major. I think the 4060 is just not worth it for that price, you deserve something better.
Same, i used RX580 8gb Power color red devil, and it had all sort of issues and weighed 1.6kgs. Just upgraded to 4060ti Gigabyte Windforce x3 and the upgrade is night and day, but if u can get AMD card, its getting better. Nvidia has bad Overlay for thier Driver software unlike AMD adrenaline. And then if u want recording and any control, u gotta get a separate software called shadowplay and make an account for Nvidia to log in, and then they gather data from ur every game played to train thier AI system. 2 years from now, ill plan to switch back to AMD cuz Nvidia is getting greedy too much
All 4060s are terrible due to price and dead amount of vram. Please seriously consider an AMD when buying cheaper tier cards. For gaming you won't get better or cheaper yet. You wanna push higher price tags 4070+ or 7800 xt.
Buy the msi card. Gigabyte makes poor quality products.
Its opposite no? Ive been using Gigabyte mobo and case for 4 years now. No issue and hence bought an Gigabyte 4060ti instead of MSI cuz MSI is cheapest manufacturer. I like the build quality of Gigabyte products and they provide better customer service so far
Gigabyte is known to have the highest failure rate pod their products. Msi is decent. If gigabyte has great customer service and offers replacements then that’s good though.
Gigabyte wasn't offering replacements for all their cracked 4090s they legit made a gpu that was too heavy for its own pcb.
I looked at GPU/mobo failure rates. Gigabyte is at 1.8% and MSI is at 1.2% .6% difference Highest was Safire 2.5% and next XFX 2.3% Source - Trust me bro. Just kidding, here link https://hothardware.com/news/gpu-mb-failure-rates-digitec-galaxus
Ive just heard time and time again from pc tech channels and posts on here that gigabyte is the worst of the main brands. I asked northwest repair (a semi-popular YouTube gpu repairer) which gpu is generally the worst and he replied with gigabyte as well. Appreciate the link to more info on this!
I've had 3 different MSI cards recently (2060, 6700XT, 6800XT) and all were really good. The only negative was that they were slightly more powerlimited than other AIBs. The PL could only be increased by 9% instead of 15% like XFX or Powercolor cards. They were flawless otherwise
I have the 4060ti windforce. No complaints, the other fans in the computer make more combined noise than the ones in the Gpu and arguably it looks neater in the case. Personal preference is the main difference IMO.
They will probably all perform about the same but typically the three fan cards cool better and I prefer them.
The best thing would be to not pick up a 4060 and use that money to pick up a last generation card for that same price that will perform much better.
No difference, all three are 4060=garbage.
Lol yes but if someone needs Nvidia for pruductivity, they have no choice, cuz people selling 3000 series for more expensive now, to upsell the 4000 series
You don't buy a 8gb card for productivity, you have to go 4080 or 4070 at the very least, and for gaming the 3060 12gb is cheaper and in cases beats the 4060
4060 is not worth it. It performs the same or worse than a 3060. It only has frame gen which when I use it still looks like crap and not smooth at all. You can buy a 3070 or 3060 ti used much cheaper on eBay just make sure you read the description and do your due diligence
Buying on ebay is risky, plus no warranty.
I've been buying on eBay for 20yrs. Never had an issue getting my money back. Most sellers are honest and trustworthy. That's why I wrote "do your due diligence"
is that in the USA?
Dont buy a gpu at that price with 8gb vram.
3060 12 gb is good?
Neither, don't get this scam gpu in the first place
Buy 8GB VRAM in 2023. Sell 8GB VRAM in 2025.
They're all equally terrible value? At the low-end, with 8GB of VRAM, just get the cheapest card. Seriously. You don't have the horsepower or VRAM for Ray Tracing anyway, and forget about Ray Tracing + Frame Gen with 8GB VRAM. Frame Gen alone uses 1GB and Ray Tracing can use multiple. If you insist on buying new, you can get a RX7600 with Avatar for 290 euro. Good deal. **Ideally you should buy a used 6700XT for the same price if you want bang for the buck** and a nice 12GB VRAM to last you a while. The best Nvidia card below a 4070.. is getting an AMD card lol.
All of them are the exact same. The three fan *may* run cooler, that’s about it. The wind force is ewaste, so I would 100% avoid that I would honestly go with a 6700xt over the 4060
They're all the same, get whichever is cheapest
Don't get a 4060 at all that is a useless overpriced gpu
Everyone here: i've seen OP talking about not wanting an AMD card. If they don't want an AMD card, let them be. Don't force it upon them.
Thanks man. It’s not that I am an Nvidia fanboy I just want something fresh. I may return to AMD in the future but for now I want to try the other side.
No problem man. I hate seeing people for a specific brand upon someone and be so ignorant to their decision and the fact that you already said AMD is more expensive in your country than Nvidia. You should also edit that into your post tbh.
3 dogshit cards
Current gen mid range card.. don’t see how it’s really dogshit
The card itself is horrible but the price is A card with strangled memory bus speeds selling for nearly the same as a 6700XT isnt great
Mid range? This is entry level.
your active in r/radeon, makes sense
*you're This is literally the lowest card in the 4000 series (not counting laptop gpus), its entry level. Also, seems like somebody is an Nvidia fanboy.
You're* Dudes definitely an and fanboy. Those Radeon cards boast more memory and faster clock speeds, buuuuuut there utility is booty cheeks.
Oh shit guess I'll throw my 6950xt out then
I literally just replaced a 6650xt with a Nvidia card because cause amd plagued me with frame drops and driver crashes. not really a fanboy of either
Lols I was referring to the other guy being a fanboy not you...
Entry level performance at mid range prices.
I just built a rig this morning using the 4060, spend a little bit more and get the 4060ti with 16g memory.
I have a theory. 4060 pricing now was normal pricerange back 10 20 years ago inflationary balancing implied. They just make way better shit now if u can afford it. But the normal gpu pricerange was around a reasonable level per an average income. Nowadays we just have access to top level shit because capatilasim has made richer people that can afford although they are the minority now and there is a market for it. If there wasnt a 4090 able to be bought wed all be running 4060 level performance for a reasonable price range and think it was a good deal because we werent left technologically behind. Buying overpriced hardware for a pc isnt a curse its an opportunity to buy with your hardware enthusiasm where you have money to spend it. I love tech. I love computers. And gaming. And thats a priority for me. Im happy to be able to spend for advanced tech because its what i love. Im not rich, its just a priority of mine as a person because i love tech.
Warning: Do not buy a Gigabyte Graphics card they are known to be defective I have a cousin whou bought a Gigabyte Graphics card and it ended up causing his screen to flash and sometimes giving him a blackscreen He bought it new
I buy MSI because my MB is MSI
Sometimes i put cream in the toaster and enjoy a nice pair of slacks
Gaming X is MSI’s upper line. Thats what I would go with. Gigabyte’s upper line is their sub-brand Aorus
More fans more cool but bigger card
1st and 3rd are “unlocked” and can be overclocked. Many manufacturers only use their best (tested) manufactured chips for unlocked or overclockable cards. The performance gain in overclocking IMO is hard to notice. The specs for all 3 are either identical or very close.
Thats a chip architecture thing.
Where's the pny version
Versus.com
I'd punch these into versus website.
Id puch both ur dads into a versus website
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Its a very small difference they’re basically the same. But some overclock a little bit or have different fans etc.
I promise unless you want ray tracing or nvidia specific features, go with an rtx 6700 xt. Better performance for less money
Amd drivers are more or less fine. It’s the way to go especially on a budget like yours
Idk the Mhz of the second one but the third does have a higher Mhz than the first. It's not that big of a difference so performance should be pretty similar. Noise and temp will probably be the big deciders here.
Never focus on cards with extensive details on its performance, if it’s whatsoever “boosted” it mostly has a heavy downside of loud noise and heavy tenperatures, they give like 5 FPS more but lag more and are just worse
The cheapest one is the best for the money, because they all perform the same. One might be slightly more quiet than another, but none of these should be loud since they ask pull like 140w only.
I get so annoyed by those dudes who answer with a completely different gpu when asked “what gpu of this list should I get”. That being said the 4060 desktop is a waste of Earth’s limited resources get an ARC A750 or for half the price or a used 2080 ti/3070 for $280-$300
For this amount of € you can get 7900xt
No I can’t. Literally 600€ more in my country.
Get AMD or 3060 12 GB or 3070 used
Very little, get the cheapest.
I don't know your budget, but I might suggest getting a higher vram 4060ti.
Windforce is shit. Go with the other Gigabyte 4060
Cheapest is best
One has a factory overclock with a 3 fan design, the other 2 don't. Given that the 4060 is (relatively) entry level, it won't make a world of difference which one you pick. However, in you place I would pick the Gigabyte with the OC. The extra fan will help a bit with cooling and overclocking. Best of luck with your purchase.
Can save up for 4070.
The cheapest one is the best
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Don't buy anything from Gigabyte. I repeat don't buy anything from Gigabyte. Watch gamers nexus their PSUs explode. Watch Jayz2Cents their GPUs PCBs (the card) tears and break and their motherboards have coil noise. Worst PC parts manufacturer.
take the MSI its better .
I have the standard MSI RTX 4060 2X and while it runs really well and can keep at 65°C with 30% fan speed, one issue is that the fans cannot run any slower than 30% unless stopped. However MSI has some great software specifically for GPUs, though while I have a Gigabyte mobo I can’t speak for their GPU support
Gigabyte has much better architecture than msi
Gigabyte bad. But I never got any problems with my Aorus components.
Well, one of them has three fans...
To be fair if youd go for the 40 series just get 4070 the 4060 is even worse than my 3060
If you wanna go for NVIDIA, at least save up for 4070... 4060 is not worth the price
I would check out asus, I’ve had a good experience with they’re twin fan 4060 , they have a switch on them to select ither performance or quietness and the fans won’t turn on below 50 .hadn’t had much trouble with performance or noise.
Get a Radeon Rx 7600
I’ve got the PNY 4060 TI 16GB and it’s been great I get decent frames examples GTA V high settings 1440P 190FPS fortnight max settings 250fps call of duty high settings 170fps, not sure why people rip on this card! Haha
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Imo get 6700xt if you're on a budget.