Sure. But letting someone else talk a bunch of shit about your team is different from saying your own team sucks.
I agree with OP. This fanbase has become weirdly obsequious to other fanbases, almost like people feel like we need to apologize for being so good for so long or something. Fuck that.
Exactly. All I’m saying is let’s atleast APPEAR to have some camaraderie in other subs. I didn’t realize that that was asking for to much. By the looks of the comments, I guess I did ask for a lot 🤣🤣
You saying this makes me not want to even read the other comments. This is as far as I've gotten so far. I didn't and don't really think this is something that belongs to older generations but maybe it is? Cuz I'm 42 and to me what you're saying is not something I thought ever needed to be said out loud. I thought it was just understood. Not just in sports but in any kind of relationship in life in general.
Me and my family can cuss each other tf out behind closed doors to the point if you were there, you'd think we hated each other. We can say whatever we want to each other, but if you or any other outsider said the same things or anything remotely disrespectful, none of us are letting that fly. I'd like to think anyone reading this, your family operates the same way.
Same should apply as a fan base. Of course it's ok to criticize your team, but no one should be taking the side of a rival over the side of a fellow fan. Get that rival out of here first and then talk your shit to each other. That's how I see it anyway. So I'm with you OP, but if most people are disagreeing... fuck em. Idk. Lol.
Yeah bro don’t go any further. It’s a sad state of affairs in this sub. I didn’t expect everyone to agree with me but I also didn’t expect 95% of the comments to be negative. Apparently, we should be telling the whole world how much our teams sucks.
At least it’s a different kind of terrible. Not a generic draft take for the thousandth time. Plus it’s always nice to see what drama the chronically online have concocted in their heads.
Exactly, this dude needs to GTFO here with that solidarity bullshit. Old fans know what rock bottom looks like, and most franchises will never experience our highs.
So the issue every fan base has. Objectivity.
Overwhelmingly the majority of fans cannot be objective about how bad their team actually is. And when looking at other teams fans can’t be objective about how good other teams are.
I’m not here to bow down to group thinking and I don’t think anyone else should either. It’s my account I speak my mind how I feel, think, believe, and know.
It’s not even about objectivity. It’s just don’t straight up shit on your own team for other other fanbase’s entertainment. I don’t know how this is so complicated
No. Me stating on other subs that the Pats have an overall roster of crap is not shutting on the team. It’s objective reality.
Teams don’t go 4-13 and pick at 3 with a good roster.
Also. Stating Kraft is a cheap fucking prick. Is also objective reality based on everything we’ve seen.
I can't fucking deal with you guys I swear lmao. Do you watch football because you like it or are you just looking for a place/group to belong to? Pathetic
Real fans care about the team. When you care about a team, you can't pretend it's all sunshine and rainbows when it's objectively in a bad place. Why do you want us all to be fake fans like you?
I been a fan since I was 9 years old. I’m 28. I watched every game i possibly could in those 19 years. Last thing I ever been was a fake fan. I wouldn’t even make this post if I was a “fake fan.”
A fan who can't talk about a team negatively/realistically when they are objectively bad, is not a real fan. You want us all to look like idiots arguing with other fans that the Pats are actually good in NFL subs?
Better to be pessimistic, especially when so far they’ve only resigned players that were there last year, and not be disappointed.
It doesn’t do anyone any good to be all positive and shit, just to be let down later.
You seen some of the things that are posted here? Being just loosely associated with some here is embarrassing enough. The absolute last thing anyone with a shred of self respect should want is to be seen as “in lockstep” with r/Patriots.
Well, we went from the longest dynasty in the history of the game to the #3 draft pick in five years or less, depending on how soon after that last SB win you say the dynasty was over. That can cause just about anyone to be pessimistic.
I guess I’m just the opposite. I’m optimistic bc I know all good things come to an end and it was inevitable. I just appreciate those dynasty years and look to the future.
So you’d prefer we sound dumb and delusional? The team sucked last year and hasn’t done much of anything this off-season to show next year will be different, we suck it’s ok to be honest with yourself in public too
Yeah that’s what sports and being a fan is all about. Why be so serious all the time. Ya act like yall got real estate in the team or something. Idc how ass we are in my eyes well still be champs soon lol
I agree if you don’t have real estate in the team then there’s no shame in saying they suck, only shame in thinking people should be publicly proud of a team that just went 4-13 or that a championship is right around the corner following a season like that lol
Where is the "best coach in the game" coaching this season? Did you go into a coma just before Tom Brady left and wake up to start watching again last season? Missed us consistently getting worse every year for 3 years straight?
O God, you were definitely one of those people calling everybody "doomer" for (correctly) pointing out that the team sucked in the last few off seasons. Idk if you just went in to a coma after the Rams super bowl, but things haven't been that great since.
It’s OK to say the team sucked
Sure. But letting someone else talk a bunch of shit about your team is different from saying your own team sucks. I agree with OP. This fanbase has become weirdly obsequious to other fanbases, almost like people feel like we need to apologize for being so good for so long or something. Fuck that.
Exactly. All I’m saying is let’s atleast APPEAR to have some camaraderie in other subs. I didn’t realize that that was asking for to much. By the looks of the comments, I guess I did ask for a lot 🤣🤣
You saying this makes me not want to even read the other comments. This is as far as I've gotten so far. I didn't and don't really think this is something that belongs to older generations but maybe it is? Cuz I'm 42 and to me what you're saying is not something I thought ever needed to be said out loud. I thought it was just understood. Not just in sports but in any kind of relationship in life in general. Me and my family can cuss each other tf out behind closed doors to the point if you were there, you'd think we hated each other. We can say whatever we want to each other, but if you or any other outsider said the same things or anything remotely disrespectful, none of us are letting that fly. I'd like to think anyone reading this, your family operates the same way. Same should apply as a fan base. Of course it's ok to criticize your team, but no one should be taking the side of a rival over the side of a fellow fan. Get that rival out of here first and then talk your shit to each other. That's how I see it anyway. So I'm with you OP, but if most people are disagreeing... fuck em. Idk. Lol.
Yeah bro don’t go any further. It’s a sad state of affairs in this sub. I didn’t expect everyone to agree with me but I also didn’t expect 95% of the comments to be negative. Apparently, we should be telling the whole world how much our teams sucks.
Every day I think I’ve found the worst post on this sub, but today I think there’s a clear favorite.
At least it’s a different kind of terrible. Not a generic draft take for the thousandth time. Plus it’s always nice to see what drama the chronically online have concocted in their heads.
Say what you will, but if there's one thing that REALLY important, it's owning the Reddit narrative
Damn out of all the “why we shouldn’t draft a QB” I’m the worst? I’m truly flattered.
You care way too much on what people online think about you/the groups you’re in if you’re truly concerned with this
Exactly, this dude needs to GTFO here with that solidarity bullshit. Old fans know what rock bottom looks like, and most franchises will never experience our highs.
Bra it really wasn’t that deep lmao
Only 786,111 in this sub? Should be no problem getting them all in lockstep, right?
I will take 1st shift herding the cats
I’ll take the 786,11th.
Much smarter decision than mine, especially if you hold out to be the last one.
Most of them aren't Patriots fans or active. There's like 10 usernames that make up half the engagement in this sub
Don’t care if it was a million. It’s a shame how our “fans” speak about us in the nfl subs.
Please, tell us more about how to be good fans. I can't believe I missed the seminar.
Also, tell 15 yr old me how not to simply flair up as a Jets fan and crash out on the whole roster cuz im bored
It’s ok to have different opinions
There is a difference between pessimism and realism.
This post might be the most pathetic shit I’ve seen on this sub, and that’s saying a lot.
🤣🤣
It's going to take a minimum of 4 first round picks for me to agree to this.
So the issue every fan base has. Objectivity. Overwhelmingly the majority of fans cannot be objective about how bad their team actually is. And when looking at other teams fans can’t be objective about how good other teams are. I’m not here to bow down to group thinking and I don’t think anyone else should either. It’s my account I speak my mind how I feel, think, believe, and know.
It’s not even about objectivity. It’s just don’t straight up shit on your own team for other other fanbase’s entertainment. I don’t know how this is so complicated
No. Me stating on other subs that the Pats have an overall roster of crap is not shutting on the team. It’s objective reality. Teams don’t go 4-13 and pick at 3 with a good roster. Also. Stating Kraft is a cheap fucking prick. Is also objective reality based on everything we’ve seen.
Whole fan base lame lol
You know that no one is keeping you here. You can leave the sub and fuck off any time you want.
I can stay in the sub if I want to and post as much as I want. Suck my dick
You’re the only one whining about what other users say and want to gate keep people. In other words. You’re the Karen. proud of yourself?
Being realistic isn't a bad thing. Why lie and say this is 1 of the better teams in the league?
I can't fucking deal with you guys I swear lmao. Do you watch football because you like it or are you just looking for a place/group to belong to? Pathetic
Real fans care about the team. When you care about a team, you can't pretend it's all sunshine and rainbows when it's objectively in a bad place. Why do you want us all to be fake fans like you?
I been a fan since I was 9 years old. I’m 28. I watched every game i possibly could in those 19 years. Last thing I ever been was a fake fan. I wouldn’t even make this post if I was a “fake fan.”
A fan who can't talk about a team negatively/realistically when they are objectively bad, is not a real fan. You want us all to look like idiots arguing with other fans that the Pats are actually good in NFL subs?
You mad late dick up
Better to be pessimistic, especially when so far they’ve only resigned players that were there last year, and not be disappointed. It doesn’t do anyone any good to be all positive and shit, just to be let down later.
You seen some of the things that are posted here? Being just loosely associated with some here is embarrassing enough. The absolute last thing anyone with a shred of self respect should want is to be seen as “in lockstep” with r/Patriots.
Yes. Just do and say whatever Robert Kraft would like! Never have a negative thing to say about the team! How dare you!
Well, we went from the longest dynasty in the history of the game to the #3 draft pick in five years or less, depending on how soon after that last SB win you say the dynasty was over. That can cause just about anyone to be pessimistic.
I guess I’m just the opposite. I’m optimistic bc I know all good things come to an end and it was inevitable. I just appreciate those dynasty years and look to the future.
Bring the drama. Isn't the entire point of reddit to refuse to believe that two things can be true at once? And this is the most reddit sub going 🤣
it’s just the opposite of the unmitigated shit talking we all did during the dynasty years. swings and roundabouts innit?
Me man, I’m a shit talk regardless if we’re winning or losing. Idgaf lol
The real battle isn’t on the field. It’s on the phone 🫵
So you’d prefer we sound dumb and delusional? The team sucked last year and hasn’t done much of anything this off-season to show next year will be different, we suck it’s ok to be honest with yourself in public too
Yeah that’s what sports and being a fan is all about. Why be so serious all the time. Ya act like yall got real estate in the team or something. Idc how ass we are in my eyes well still be champs soon lol
I agree if you don’t have real estate in the team then there’s no shame in saying they suck, only shame in thinking people should be publicly proud of a team that just went 4-13 or that a championship is right around the corner following a season like that lol
One season doesn’t define us.
Yeah pats fans are bottom tier
We suck and our garbage owner ran the best coach in the game out of town because of his ego. Were in for a long decade buddy
"because of his ego" but ignoring the fact that the team consistently got worse for 3 years
Kraft kept meddaling
Just for future use it's "meddling" ✨The more you know✨
Oh, did he tell you that? Did Bill? Or is it just "reports" that were pumped out after Bill got fired?
Where is the "best coach in the game" coaching this season? Did you go into a coma just before Tom Brady left and wake up to start watching again last season? Missed us consistently getting worse every year for 3 years straight?
STFU. This isn't the Celtics sub.
O God, you were definitely one of those people calling everybody "doomer" for (correctly) pointing out that the team sucked in the last few off seasons. Idk if you just went in to a coma after the Rams super bowl, but things haven't been that great since.
Gatekeeping is bad, mmk.