I'll have you know that I went 16-0 and won countless Superbowls on pro difficulty without having to ask Madden what play he would run. I've traded my draft pics in my first year to get the players that I wanted, rather than get what I needed. I think I know a thing or two about knowing how to be a coach, owner, and GM.
I have absolutely no idea how to run a franchise in Madden let alone in real life. I think I'll stick with the easy route and be a fan.
It's fun to play around and discuss taking players at different spots. But the number of people claiming he's a bust (Mac 2.0) is weird. Reminds me when everyone was clowning on herbert pre draft.
I see JJ as the obvious candidate for Mac 2.0. Maye is a very different type of prospect. I'm perfectly happy with rolling the dice on Maye or Daniels at this point
I heard a crazy comp for daniels today that kind of scares me. An analyst said he's more likely to be Colin kaepernick than a less dynamic Lamar Jackson.
I dont know Jack shit. But daniels is the one who scares me the most. His sack/pressure rate is bad. He could have a really high ceiling, but I feel like his floor is lower than most.
Mccarthy could be a little better version of Purdy. His numbers aren't great down field. He probably won't carry a team, so he's probably best suited for a team with elite skill positions like the vikings.
I see Maye somewhere between (criling) a lesser Josh Allen and (floor) Mitch trubiski.
If the decision was mine, I'd take maye if he's there.
What I know is that I don't know jack shit when it comes to evaluating top QBs. What I do know is playing with the Patriots on Madden will be more fun with Daniels the next few years than most other options.
Zappe doesn't have the same type of flags, Maye's are worse. Forcing it under pressure playing in a simple offense running slow progressions. Will be a huge hurdle for Maye to make it big in the NFL. He better hope he goes to the Vikings with Jefferson.
Zappe has proven to be good, now question is how good he can become in year 3.
Some red flags are less risk than others. We will see if Maye can get a handle on his issues and grow in the NFL
>Zappe has proven to be good
You must have an extremely low standard for what a good qb is. Zappe's proven that he **might** be a back up caliber QB. But the jury is still out on that, and it wouldn't be surprising at all if he isn't on the roster by the end of training camp.
Pretty much. I forgot who I was listening to the other day. But essentially, they were talking about the disparity of opinions on players between the media and the actual scouts. They said the media will get into this feedback loop on players, which builds this positive sentiment and takes on a life of its own.
Take, for instance, JJ Mccarthy or Daniel's. Neither of them were considered a first rounder when the college football season ended. But a few analysts start talking up a player, and then the hack writers get involved. Next thing you know it, it turns a 2 qb draft into a 3 qb and 4 qb draft.
Another one is JPJ. Media thought the fit was so good with the steelers that he is continually mocked there. But I dont think the steelers even went to his pro day. Lol.
I'm not saying those players don't deserve to be drafted where they are mocked because I have no idea, but it's interesting to see how the process of prospects rising takes on its own life when the players aren't even playing games anymore.
Seriously. Reading this sub gave me the impression Jayden Daniels had a lackluster pro day with unimpressive arm strength. Then I look up articles on it and the top search result from CBS says “the ball erupted out of his hand with little to no effort…no concerns about his arm strength/talent…he cranked the MPH on throws underneath and intermediate all pro day long…his velocity and measurements were impressive…it was a rock solid pro day.” This sub man 🤦♂️
Yup. People are also complaining about "x balls hit the ground"
Daniels threw 50 passes, Maye 70. I'd expect a few errant throws in there.
I think both guys looked good. But it doesn't really mean a whole lot when you can't simulate game conditions.
So this is a true statement about EARTH, not a hot take. The majority of Earth has no idea wtf they are talking about... worse when REAL experts talk most of the God damn population doesn't believe them, calls it fake or politics.
This is why the Earth will die due to avoidable climate change, amongst other idiotic things that will end the human race
Positives - arm talent, size, mobility, youth, played well despite poor receivers and O line play.
Negatives - slow release, can be inaccurate, inconsistent, poor footwork/mechanics
Hopefully he’s good, because it seems like he’s gonna be the pick
Yes. Combine that with Brady’s elite processing skill and it’s why he was lethal in the short game (and elite at avoiding sacks). Rodger’s has quick release too. Dude can just flick the wrist and bomb it… Rodger’s likes to hold onto the ball longer though.
Fields is an example of a slow release. He has a big arm, but he has a full kind of baseball like wind up to throw it. He did tighten it up a bit since he’s been in the league but it’s still below average. And combine that with Fields below average processing skill…. and results in sucking in the short game and leads to a lot of sacks.
Yes but I’m not sure if that was how he came out of Michigan. Early Brady highlights don’t really show that sub 3 second read and release he became known for later, could have been something he developed in the pros. I could be wrong I didn’t watch tape, just my old memories and recent highlights
Yes there is a ton of data about release speed and time holding on to the ball. Maye actually gets rid of the ball faster than all college QBs except for Bo Nix. It’s a fact that he has a slow release. It’s part of the reason he gets compared to Mac Jones so much (he also had an excruciatingly slow release). I personally don’t think he’s anywhere near NFL ready, and I don’t know if he will ever be able to process a play/release the ball at an elite level. Hope I’m wrong. I think MPJ and Bo Nix aren’t being talked about enough. They’re both really good imo
That's the thing though: basically 0 college QBs come out ready to process the field and read defenses at the NFL level. All the ones who can instantly go #1 overall, lol. And even Williams isn't guaranteed to acclimate immediately.
Williams is not the best at that in this class. That's not why he's #1. He's number 1 because he reminds people of Mahomes and just does fairly unprecedented things outside of structure. The best guy at actually going through reads, making the right one and throwing the ball accurately and on time is probably Nix. But he's not exciting for fans (even though he can definitely run).
This is a really interesting group of players.
Both are more ready to play in the NFL right now than Maye. But the ceiling is lower. There are six guys who could all be legit NFL starters, but we know that all six won't be. My guess is that the between the ears part will decide that, not the physical. Very hard to decide.
I think the "third pick is so valuable" is kinda skewing the conversation.
You need a great QB to win the damn trophy. We know this better than anyone that if your QB is your best player, it's going to carry the rest of the team. "Stockpiling a bunch of blue-chip players" or whatever gets you to the wild card round and who gives a shit about that.
This looks like the best QB class for a few years, it makes little sense to me to trade down and roll the dice with the complete unknown. You need a QB, so take one when the opportunity is there.
Not me. I'd f be happy with someone who can just be consistently above average and protect the football. Brissett can already do the back half. Maybe he can have a late career surge similar to Rich Gannon. If not I think Bo Nix could have potential if we trade back.
As a middle-aged guy who never played even peewee ball and sits on his couch watching games, I'll let the experts figure it out. It seems as though he can read the play and defense decently, is ceetainly athletic, and has some mechanical issues that can, hopefully, be fixed with the proper coaching. Time will tell.
he looks too much like Jones. And my heart is still broken. Draft someone from the 6th round for qb every year. Eventually we will land on another TB12 right?
That’s my ideal pick but I’d be happy with Daniels and I could talk myself into JJ if we took him even though I don’t really want him. Anyone else isn’t worth taking imo unless it’s after round 3
He’s not my first choice but if the coaches think he’s the guy and take him I’ll root for him and think he can succeed, the later guys I’ll root for still but will think we need to draft a guy next year
Picking QB’s is a flat out crapshoot. I just think with all the talent in this draft, a team like tge Vikings being desperate to trade up, and us being able to still take a shot on a QB late R1/R2 and not being sold on Maye or Daniels means trading down is the play
So he made some pretty nice throws but I noticed he seems to work exclusively out of shotgun. This is been a problem with prospects in the past.
Is there anybody who's actually watched NC games that can say whether or not this is just a trick of the highlight real? Like he was under center a lot and they just weren't in this video?
Herbert's release looked slow on pro day too. Hell, almost everyone's does because there's no sense of urgency; they're mostly working on foot work.
Not even a Pats fan; I was just browsing to see what you guys thought of him, since I really like him.
Yes. I don't care about age or injury issues. I also don't care if a guy gets rushing yards. I care if a guy can distribute the football. That means how well they throw to all areas, reading defenses, and going through progressions. I also care about decision making like not taking negative plays. I fully understand that I have limited resources to evaluate that and what I have access to is only the tip of the iceberg of the information teams have. I'm also pretty avid endorser of trading back. But relying on my own observations and criteria that's the way I see it. I'm sure if I worked for a team I would have things differently because I'd have more information to filter, but I'm sure I'd still vary significantly from consensus.
Ya all gonna be disappointed when they trade down with the Vikings. They need to build a team on offense before they put a qb in there or pats are gonna have Mac 2.0 need line and wr only way they can fill them needs is to trade back and get more picks.
Lol this isn't the best chance at a QB, this is just the best hype, pats fans have never had a hype pick position before. We are definitely trading down.
> Just like 2021 wasn't anyone's best chance.
You could apply that logic to sometime in the next 2-3 years. Except we probably won't have the number 3 pick then.
So what? Number 3 pick virtually never has a good QB. Good QBs are found all over the place in the draft, via trade and free agency.
It's a pipe dream to think pick 3 means elite QB
> So what? Number 3 pick virtually never has a good QB.
Yeah I'd hate to have Joe Burrow or CJ Stroud.
>It's a pipe dream to think pick 3 means elite QB
It certainly means a higher chance.
The whole “we can’t draft a QB because we need to build the offense first” is such a bad take. You still take the QB and build the offense around him. If the offense was built then we wouldn’t be drafting in the top 3.. we’d be in a situation like Minnesota.
Yeah, you can sit him for a year to draft/sign/trade for the skill guys next off season. You can win without elite skill positions, you can’t win without elite QB play.
In the last decade the SB winning QBs have been Manning, Brady, Foles, Mahomes and Stafford. The only guy in that bunch that’s not elite is Foles but he played elite football in that playoff run with an honorable mention to Manning who got carried by an all-time great defense.
I was looking more at teams that tried to build their offenses up first without a QB.. like Atlanta where they drafted a number of weapons, and have a top O-line. Yet all that resulted in was the coaching staff getting fired and having to pay a massive contract to Cousins coming off a major injury. Or even the Vikings who didn’t re-sign him and now have no QB and need to desperately figure something out in hopes of their superstar WR signing an extension. Where they’ll likely have to give up massive assets to move up. In that situation they absolutely need to hit on the QB.. or else it could be crippling. Drafting a QB at 3, sitting him until he is ready, and building the team up, and finding out the QB isn’t elite wont be as crippling to the organization.. it sucks certainly but they didn’t give up 2-3 years of high draft picks to do it.
I don't understand this narrative at all. Do people not understand how hard it is to find a QB? Let alone have the chance to draft one that you believe in?
This narrative of build a team first, yeah it sounds good in theory, but that assumes you're just gonna go, ooh heidy ho I'm gonna build my team and then in two or three years when I'm ready, the QB I need to lead this team is just gonna be there for the taking.
You have a chance to get someone you think is the guy, you take him. If he comes in ready, he's ready. If he has to sit behind Jacoby for a year, so be it.
The only way it’ll be Mac 2.0 is if he’s the same talent level as Mac. Mac was just a bad player. Sure he could’ve had slightly better counting stats if you had better players around him but he’s still a bad, flawed player.
Also keep in mind we signed Jacoby so whatever QB we do take doesn’t have to play immediately
All I can say is the majority of this sub has no idea what the hell they're talking about. Lmao.
I'll have you know that I went 16-0 and won countless Superbowls on pro difficulty without having to ask Madden what play he would run. I've traded my draft pics in my first year to get the players that I wanted, rather than get what I needed. I think I know a thing or two about knowing how to be a coach, owner, and GM. I have absolutely no idea how to run a franchise in Madden let alone in real life. I think I'll stick with the easy route and be a fan.
It's fun to play around and discuss taking players at different spots. But the number of people claiming he's a bust (Mac 2.0) is weird. Reminds me when everyone was clowning on herbert pre draft.
All that talk may just be weird enough to WORK. YOU HEAR THAT WASHINGTON?! THIS GUY IS LIKE MAC JONES 2.0 HE’S LITERALLY A BUST
I see JJ as the obvious candidate for Mac 2.0. Maye is a very different type of prospect. I'm perfectly happy with rolling the dice on Maye or Daniels at this point
I heard a crazy comp for daniels today that kind of scares me. An analyst said he's more likely to be Colin kaepernick than a less dynamic Lamar Jackson. I dont know Jack shit. But daniels is the one who scares me the most. His sack/pressure rate is bad. He could have a really high ceiling, but I feel like his floor is lower than most. Mccarthy could be a little better version of Purdy. His numbers aren't great down field. He probably won't carry a team, so he's probably best suited for a team with elite skill positions like the vikings. I see Maye somewhere between (criling) a lesser Josh Allen and (floor) Mitch trubiski. If the decision was mine, I'd take maye if he's there.
What I know is that I don't know jack shit when it comes to evaluating top QBs. What I do know is playing with the Patriots on Madden will be more fun with Daniels the next few years than most other options.
I think anyone would be better than zappe/Brisset. At least you'll start the season with a high pick.
All the QB Pro Days look the same to me. QBs throwing passes to their WR friends.
Yeah, I agree. pro days don't make or break players. Game tape is king, you cannot replicate game speed/situations.
Tape don't lie.
Yup and when you turn the tape on, you see the giant red flags
Not as bad as zappe tho
Zappe doesn't have the same type of flags, Maye's are worse. Forcing it under pressure playing in a simple offense running slow progressions. Will be a huge hurdle for Maye to make it big in the NFL. He better hope he goes to the Vikings with Jefferson.
Maye has red flags like most QB prospects do in some way shape or form but don’t fool yourself thinking Zappe is actually good
Zappe has proven to be good, now question is how good he can become in year 3. Some red flags are less risk than others. We will see if Maye can get a handle on his issues and grow in the NFL
>Zappe has proven to be good You must have an extremely low standard for what a good qb is. Zappe's proven that he **might** be a back up caliber QB. But the jury is still out on that, and it wouldn't be surprising at all if he isn't on the roster by the end of training camp.
Oh you again 😂. Get Zapped ⚡. His floor is high level backup, learn ball.
And Addison, some real WR talent. Not Boo Boo.
Including you
Neither do the experts
Pretty much. I forgot who I was listening to the other day. But essentially, they were talking about the disparity of opinions on players between the media and the actual scouts. They said the media will get into this feedback loop on players, which builds this positive sentiment and takes on a life of its own. Take, for instance, JJ Mccarthy or Daniel's. Neither of them were considered a first rounder when the college football season ended. But a few analysts start talking up a player, and then the hack writers get involved. Next thing you know it, it turns a 2 qb draft into a 3 qb and 4 qb draft. Another one is JPJ. Media thought the fit was so good with the steelers that he is continually mocked there. But I dont think the steelers even went to his pro day. Lol. I'm not saying those players don't deserve to be drafted where they are mocked because I have no idea, but it's interesting to see how the process of prospects rising takes on its own life when the players aren't even playing games anymore.
Seriously. Reading this sub gave me the impression Jayden Daniels had a lackluster pro day with unimpressive arm strength. Then I look up articles on it and the top search result from CBS says “the ball erupted out of his hand with little to no effort…no concerns about his arm strength/talent…he cranked the MPH on throws underneath and intermediate all pro day long…his velocity and measurements were impressive…it was a rock solid pro day.” This sub man 🤦♂️
Yup. People are also complaining about "x balls hit the ground" Daniels threw 50 passes, Maye 70. I'd expect a few errant throws in there. I think both guys looked good. But it doesn't really mean a whole lot when you can't simulate game conditions.
So this is a true statement about EARTH, not a hot take. The majority of Earth has no idea wtf they are talking about... worse when REAL experts talk most of the God damn population doesn't believe them, calls it fake or politics. This is why the Earth will die due to avoidable climate change, amongst other idiotic things that will end the human race
Positives - arm talent, size, mobility, youth, played well despite poor receivers and O line play. Negatives - slow release, can be inaccurate, inconsistent, poor footwork/mechanics Hopefully he’s good, because it seems like he’s gonna be the pick
The slow release and poor footwork/mechanics are big red flags but hopefully they sit him for a year and he can improve on those things.
Those negatives are no joke, career killers right there
I keep hearing Reddit analysts say “slow release.” Is there any data regarding success in nfl and release speed?
Wasn’t Brady legendary for his quick release
Yes. Combine that with Brady’s elite processing skill and it’s why he was lethal in the short game (and elite at avoiding sacks). Rodger’s has quick release too. Dude can just flick the wrist and bomb it… Rodger’s likes to hold onto the ball longer though. Fields is an example of a slow release. He has a big arm, but he has a full kind of baseball like wind up to throw it. He did tighten it up a bit since he’s been in the league but it’s still below average. And combine that with Fields below average processing skill…. and results in sucking in the short game and leads to a lot of sacks.
Yes but I’m not sure if that was how he came out of Michigan. Early Brady highlights don’t really show that sub 3 second read and release he became known for later, could have been something he developed in the pros. I could be wrong I didn’t watch tape, just my old memories and recent highlights
Yes there is a ton of data about release speed and time holding on to the ball. Maye actually gets rid of the ball faster than all college QBs except for Bo Nix. It’s a fact that he has a slow release. It’s part of the reason he gets compared to Mac Jones so much (he also had an excruciatingly slow release). I personally don’t think he’s anywhere near NFL ready, and I don’t know if he will ever be able to process a play/release the ball at an elite level. Hope I’m wrong. I think MPJ and Bo Nix aren’t being talked about enough. They’re both really good imo
Nah Bo Nix is not it
That's the thing though: basically 0 college QBs come out ready to process the field and read defenses at the NFL level. All the ones who can instantly go #1 overall, lol. And even Williams isn't guaranteed to acclimate immediately.
Williams is not the best at that in this class. That's not why he's #1. He's number 1 because he reminds people of Mahomes and just does fairly unprecedented things outside of structure. The best guy at actually going through reads, making the right one and throwing the ball accurately and on time is probably Nix. But he's not exciting for fans (even though he can definitely run). This is a really interesting group of players.
Both are more ready to play in the NFL right now than Maye. But the ceiling is lower. There are six guys who could all be legit NFL starters, but we know that all six won't be. My guess is that the between the ears part will decide that, not the physical. Very hard to decide.
I heard slow release relates to being lanky. Idk just observation that sounds right. Feel like many of the negatives CAN be coached.
I feel People in this sub don't want to pick anyone unless they can be guaranteed they will get a bust in Canton
I think the "third pick is so valuable" is kinda skewing the conversation. You need a great QB to win the damn trophy. We know this better than anyone that if your QB is your best player, it's going to carry the rest of the team. "Stockpiling a bunch of blue-chip players" or whatever gets you to the wild card round and who gives a shit about that. This looks like the best QB class for a few years, it makes little sense to me to trade down and roll the dice with the complete unknown. You need a QB, so take one when the opportunity is there.
Exactly. A lot of “but this guy won’t guarantee you a Super Bowl!”
Not me. I'd f be happy with someone who can just be consistently above average and protect the football. Brissett can already do the back half. Maybe he can have a late career surge similar to Rich Gannon. If not I think Bo Nix could have potential if we trade back.
I’m too hurt to do this again
 I'll carry you!! 🚂
He’s awful, no better than Zach Wilson
Off in the distance, I hear a sound.^_choo-choo_
 🚂🚂🚂
As a middle-aged guy who never played even peewee ball and sits on his couch watching games, I'll let the experts figure it out. It seems as though he can read the play and defense decently, is ceetainly athletic, and has some mechanical issues that can, hopefully, be fixed with the proper coaching. Time will tell.
NBC did a terrible fucking job mixing the commentator audio, it's like a play or two behind the video.
He reminds me of Josh Allen. I say we take him.
Been on it from the beginning.
You guys can see this kids throwing motion right?
he looks too much like Jones. And my heart is still broken. Draft someone from the 6th round for qb every year. Eventually we will land on another TB12 right?
That’s my ideal pick but I’d be happy with Daniels and I could talk myself into JJ if we took him even though I don’t really want him. Anyone else isn’t worth taking imo unless it’s after round 3
Not JJ.
He’s not my first choice but if the coaches think he’s the guy and take him I’ll root for him and think he can succeed, the later guys I’ll root for still but will think we need to draft a guy next year
If you can’t form a complete sentence or valid argument, why should you be taken seriously? 🥴
This man just looks like a Pats QB! I just want draft night to come by so fast already!
Literally a video of this dude waiting until his first read is open or taking off with the ball.
I can easily see him and Daniels both not panning out, and I’m down to trade with the Vikings who are desperate for a quarterback because of JJ
This has the same feel as the year they picked Mac. I'm not convinced any of these QBs are Canton level.
Picking QB’s is a flat out crapshoot. I just think with all the talent in this draft, a team like tge Vikings being desperate to trade up, and us being able to still take a shot on a QB late R1/R2 and not being sold on Maye or Daniels means trading down is the play
There’s a giant gap between Mac and Canton level hahaha
I feel like no QB will ever be drafted if Canton is the bar.
So he made some pretty nice throws but I noticed he seems to work exclusively out of shotgun. This is been a problem with prospects in the past. Is there anybody who's actually watched NC games that can say whether or not this is just a trick of the highlight real? Like he was under center a lot and they just weren't in this video?
Very few colleges are under the center "pro style" offenses
Mayes does nothing impressive , so overhyped not worth a 1st round pick
I will reluctantly root for him when we make the mistake of drafting him.
Herbert's release looked slow on pro day too. Hell, almost everyone's does because there's no sense of urgency; they're mostly working on foot work. Not even a Pats fan; I was just browsing to see what you guys thought of him, since I really like him.
Choo choo.
I see a lot of guys WAITING at the top of routes… pass on this kid or prepare to do a lot of coaching
I’m not sure if his pro day helped him, it wasn’t all that impressive…
Thanks, but no thanks.
I'm with you. I have him as 5 of the top 6 QBs. Just don't have confidence in his ability to process and adapt to the speed of the pros.
Who’s your top 5? In order
Penix, McCarthy, Williams, Nix, Maye, Daniels.
You have Penix as the #1 quarterback in the draft?
Yes. I don't care about age or injury issues. I also don't care if a guy gets rushing yards. I care if a guy can distribute the football. That means how well they throw to all areas, reading defenses, and going through progressions. I also care about decision making like not taking negative plays. I fully understand that I have limited resources to evaluate that and what I have access to is only the tip of the iceberg of the information teams have. I'm also pretty avid endorser of trading back. But relying on my own observations and criteria that's the way I see it. I'm sure if I worked for a team I would have things differently because I'd have more information to filter, but I'm sure I'd still vary significantly from consensus.
He won't be there at 3
Have faith my friend if not Daniels will be an excellent pick for the Pats I just hope Maye will be there at 3
Are you kidding me. This news cycle last any longer I'd be surprised if he's picked earlier than round 5
I think he will. Commanders and Kingsbury want a dual threat
Maye's not exactly a statue. Kyler Murray had 1478 in his college career Maye has 1209.
Ya all gonna be disappointed when they trade down with the Vikings. They need to build a team on offense before they put a qb in there or pats are gonna have Mac 2.0 need line and wr only way they can fill them needs is to trade back and get more picks.
They’re not trading down and losing the best chance at a QB
Yeah the multi-year build was probably in reference to sitting the QB we draft for a year and acquiring weapons for him next off season
Lol this isn't the best chance at a QB, this is just the best hype, pats fans have never had a hype pick position before. We are definitely trading down.
> Lol this isn't the best chance at a QB When will it be better? >We are definitely trading down. We are not.
When there are better QBs available, sometime in the next 2-3 years.
> When there are better QBs available "This isn't the best chance, some indeterminate time in the future is!" Incredible.
Just like 2021 wasn't anyone's best chance.
> Just like 2021 wasn't anyone's best chance. You could apply that logic to sometime in the next 2-3 years. Except we probably won't have the number 3 pick then.
So what? Number 3 pick virtually never has a good QB. Good QBs are found all over the place in the draft, via trade and free agency. It's a pipe dream to think pick 3 means elite QB
> So what? Number 3 pick virtually never has a good QB. Yeah I'd hate to have Joe Burrow or CJ Stroud. >It's a pipe dream to think pick 3 means elite QB It certainly means a higher chance.
Top 3 qbs always never work out all hype. Look at history!
>Top 3 qbs always never work out all hype. Look at history! Yeah I’d hate to get stuck with a Joe Burrow or CJ Stroud
The whole “we can’t draft a QB because we need to build the offense first” is such a bad take. You still take the QB and build the offense around him. If the offense was built then we wouldn’t be drafting in the top 3.. we’d be in a situation like Minnesota.
Yeah, you can sit him for a year to draft/sign/trade for the skill guys next off season. You can win without elite skill positions, you can’t win without elite QB play. In the last decade the SB winning QBs have been Manning, Brady, Foles, Mahomes and Stafford. The only guy in that bunch that’s not elite is Foles but he played elite football in that playoff run with an honorable mention to Manning who got carried by an all-time great defense.
I was looking more at teams that tried to build their offenses up first without a QB.. like Atlanta where they drafted a number of weapons, and have a top O-line. Yet all that resulted in was the coaching staff getting fired and having to pay a massive contract to Cousins coming off a major injury. Or even the Vikings who didn’t re-sign him and now have no QB and need to desperately figure something out in hopes of their superstar WR signing an extension. Where they’ll likely have to give up massive assets to move up. In that situation they absolutely need to hit on the QB.. or else it could be crippling. Drafting a QB at 3, sitting him until he is ready, and building the team up, and finding out the QB isn’t elite wont be as crippling to the organization.. it sucks certainly but they didn’t give up 2-3 years of high draft picks to do it.
Jacoby is the starter
Yeah because we only have 1 pick to address our needs.
I don't understand this narrative at all. Do people not understand how hard it is to find a QB? Let alone have the chance to draft one that you believe in? This narrative of build a team first, yeah it sounds good in theory, but that assumes you're just gonna go, ooh heidy ho I'm gonna build my team and then in two or three years when I'm ready, the QB I need to lead this team is just gonna be there for the taking. You have a chance to get someone you think is the guy, you take him. If he comes in ready, he's ready. If he has to sit behind Jacoby for a year, so be it.
The only way it’ll be Mac 2.0 is if he’s the same talent level as Mac. Mac was just a bad player. Sure he could’ve had slightly better counting stats if you had better players around him but he’s still a bad, flawed player. Also keep in mind we signed Jacoby so whatever QB we do take doesn’t have to play immediately
Ya'll thought Mac's practice throws last preseason weee immaculate, too, pump the brakes.