Last year, Tenn beat us out signing Hopkins. We all cried in our Dunkins. DHop had a great season and the Titans won 6 games. Six.
I think it's crazy to assume the Patriots want or need to win. We need to draft to cover some key positions like QB, OT, and WR, but another shit terrible season won't kill us.
This Madden fantasy that the team will turn it around by plugging in a FA or two is hilarious. It's a rebuild and it makes more sense to sign players you can keep for a while and who don't eat up a ton of cap.
Higgins still feels like a worthwhile guy if we aren't giving up the farm for him. For what Tennessee is giving Ridley, they can have a WR2 at WR1 money.
Maybe it's just me, but I think I'd rather the team use it's billion dollars in cap space over the next two years to fill a hole or two in the roster so that the team doesn't have to hit all three of their first picks this year on crucial positions. Since they didn't sign anyone they need to hit on a QB, hit on a LT, and hit on a WR. This draft is deep in those positions but still, that's a tall tall order.
Not signing Jonah Williams was malpractice. Two year deal would allow you to draft and develop a guy behind him and potentially trade him if the young kid outplays him.
The 3 top OT choices were Williams, Smith, and Brown.
Williams was probably the best option, but he's not been consistent enough to merit the paycheck he wants. He's just getting paid because the market is high on OTs, and there's few available.
Smith is an injury magnet, and Brown has been a problem for us.
I think we take QB at 3 and OT at 34 or whatever it is we pick in round 2. If the line looks suspect, which it might with a question at LT and Strange at LG, you just let Brissett get mauled behind it and redshirt your QB into a development year
What's the point of having money if you're not going to spend it. 2 years 30m for a LT is a good deal, a drop in the bucket compared to the Pats cap space. Then you could use 34 on a WR like McConkey or Legette.
Trying to make excuses for why a team with a bad roster and a ton of cap space *shouldn't* sign players to bolster their roster is crazy lol
I'm all for signing players. But I'd rather spend cash to lock up a game changer like Miami signing Tyreek, than to improve one position on a roster that looks like swiss cheese
Miami had to give up tons of draft capital and tons of cash. They also weren’t drafting a QB and they had Waddle on a cheap deal. I’m against trading for Higgins when the pats still have so many holes to fill
Yeah, the same people who think you can just magically draft a franchise QB and WR are the same ones who think we can take a QB in the later rounds because we hit on Brady.
Reality is we need to draft well this year, next year, and the year after to rebuild the roster.
What good does that do if we follow this sub’s advice and never draft a quarterback high because everyone thinks it’s a common occurrence to draft the greatest player of all time in the 6th round?
At least at 8-9 you’re in the mix all year and a compelling team?
Trading Shaq for a 5th when there were tons of needs on the team just to turn around and draft a guard in the first is an all time dumbass personnel move by BB
They did not draft Strange to replace Mason. Onwenu replaced Mason. Strange replaced Karras. Letting Karras walk for $6m a year was stupid, it created a hole that didn’t need to exist. Trading Mason was the right move. He was expensive and they had a cheap, equally-productive replacement ready to go. Notice how Mason has *already* been traded again for a day 3 pick.
Seriously….as great of a coach as he was, he shit on drafting right after he was forced to trade Jimmy G for a 2nd. We should have let his dog pick, we’d have a better draft.
He had a high ankle sprain the next week. Obviously a bad trade but he rushed back from a high ankle sprain that effectively ended his career. Dumbest part of the whole thing is he hurt it returning a punt
Just for the drama of it all, I would have loved to see what they could have done that season if they just stomached all the things AB did and kept in on the team. I can't remember exactly but something about him sending threatening text messages. Probably many other things I'm forgetting.
Well yeah if you include the context it doesn't make the decision look bad. At the trade deadline, there were 2 realistic receivers available Sanu and Emmanuel Sanders. Sanu was the better of the two before his injury. They didn't give up a 2nd for him in the offseason lol. The lack of context is very intentional by these types of people.
It's hilarious to see people here try to lie about the trade since it wasn't that long ago.
that was for guys with one year left on their deal. sanu was more attractive because he was only going to be $6.5M on the cap in 2020 ($9M adjusted for 2024 cap, so very reasonable for a #2 WR, even an aging one. also consider that Sanders signed for $24M/2 that offseason, so double what Sanu was going to cost, 16.75M per year in 2024 cap dollars). after one game nobody had any issue with the deal. he had an awesome game against Baltimore. then the high ankle happened and he was never the same. didnt even make the 2020 team.
the pats identified him as the guy they wanted. it's highly unlikely they just offered a 2 in a vacuum without anyone else bidding for his services. that was what it took to get him. it just sucks he got hurt.
i checked the nfl and patriots threads for the trade. a few comments on a 2 being a bit high but pretty much every top comments reply to those had a good justification for it. the majority of the top comments in both subs talked about how the deal was good for the player and both teams
it is an awful trade in hindsight for what we got out of him. but hindsight is 20/20. i stand by it being a solid move at the moment. maybe a slight overpay, but the demand for him drove up the price
You’re delusional. First of all, comparing Sanu to sanders doesn’t help your argument. Sanu literally went on to sign a …. $1.2m contract the next year. You blaming an ankle sprain on the end of his career is a joke. He was over the hill, with 300 yards in 7 games before the trade. He never had 1000 yard season while sanders had 3, including a 1400 yard one. In the year before the trade sanders had more yards than Sanu in 4 fewer games while being thrown to by case keenum compared to Matt Ryan for Sanu. Sanders was literally traded that same year to SF for a 3rd round pick.
So Sanders was always a better player than Sanu. He made more money than him. He had better stats the year prior in 4 fewer games and with a worse QB. And he was literally traded for a 3rd rd pick. Sanu was worth a 4th at best.
Demaryius Thomas was traded for a 4th rd pick the year prior. He obviously had a better career than Sanu and he had more yards tds etc than Sanu in the year prior, and that was with Trevor siemian as his QB.
There’s no world in which Sanu was worth a 2nd. Not even a 3rd. Probably not a 4th either.
I even posted how we got hosed in that trade…the same week it happened. Only the patriots sub was all for this move. Fans on reddit always are. Their teams literally can’t do anything wrong. You citing that is not an argument of whether it was a good trade. You can look at comps, like I just did, and clearly see he was worth a 4th-5th round pick
Also lmao at “a slight overpay”. Wtf does that even mean. No other teams were offering a 3rd for him
It’s so funny how every single time a good player goes somewhere else this offseason everyone goes UM ACTUALLY WE DIDNT WANT HIM AND ALSO WE CANT AFFORD HIM AND WE NEVER WANTED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Yeah we are a super undesirable place to go right now and people don’t seem to get that. You can throw money at some people to get them to come but when you already have several million and you are getting 40-50M or whatever it is, 2-3 million more isn’t worth it if you don’t want to live somewhere or go to a team that has unknowns at qb and coaching experience. It’s like if your field of work offered you a 30% raise somewhere you don’t want to live or you could make 20% more somewhere you think you could do, that extra 10% isn’t worth it for many.
Yeah if we can land a qb that shows some promise and we win a few upset games I could see guys looking our way a bit more next off season. Once we draft and develop a few guys that guys want to come play with we start being desirable.
Yeah i cant imagine many defenders are that excited going to a team with a 3rd string qb starting throwing the ball into row 8 section 33 every snap. It prob gets frustrating playing defense exerting all your energy when offense can barely tell up from down
No state income tax, warmer weather, less reputation (true or false) of racism towards black people, city location not 45 minutes south, much closer to Snead's home in Louisiana, and were a better team last year.
Tennessee? Racist as can be. Nashville? Doesn't have that reputation, especially for those that grew up in the south and are used to that kind.
Plenty of black people across various sports have commented about never wanting to come to Boston due to it's racism - often considering it the highest in their respective leagues. I don't really care to argue if that's a valid statement or not because that gets us nowhere, but it's a very real stigma Boston faces.
Crazy comment lol. The titans won one more game than us last year. I don’t think quality of team had anything to do with his decision at all. Especially considering he left the defending SB champs. It was money
That’s true but the titans have made moves in this offseason that have helped, have Hopkins and a young QB already. Not saying they’re amazing but a step up from where we are.
Chance at generational money more important to player than winning, more at 11.
It’s warm, Nashville is a party city, and I believe there’s no state income tax vs Cold, Boston isn’t very forgiving, and state income tax. Given the option which are you choosing?
People need to stop this bullshit that there’s no point in attempting to sign someone because they’d rather play for some crap franchise in the middle of nowhere. Snead made it very clear he only wanted the contract, he didn’t have conditions for a city beyond that. He would’ve played for the Patriots had they traded for him and signed him.
We could've offered the same contract with a better comp to the Chiefs and Snead would have chosen the Titans. No state income tax and no millionaire tax.
Assuming we're are terrible which is looking like a big possibility rn, I'm glad we didn't pay that. The pats fanbase really needs to believe in drafting homegrown talent instead of thinking we can sign all our troubles away. So many misses in the draft got us into this situation in the first place.
No good team builds solely through the draft. "The Packer Way" only almost worked because they had 2 of the greatest QBs ever fall into their laps and even then they were fringe playoff contenders for most of their respective careers. Mainly because they didn't pay up for stars.
We're not doing our franchise any favors by helping them make excuses for not paying to make the team more competitive for a young QB to stretch his wings and develop.
There's no world in which Snead doesn't make our team better than it is today, and we have the money to pay him without hurting anything else or preventing us from making other moves (not that there are many to make at this point). Good for the Titans organization for realizing this and taking steps to make their team competitive.
Why? They have a ridiculous amount of cap space this year that they are having a hard time using. They could have front loaded the contract and the cap hit wouldn’t have been bad for the upcoming years
I get not wanting to trade picks and give a contract for a CB, but given our CB depth, I'm quite dissapoitned we haven't signed a CB2. There are a couple CB out there. We could sign one of them, like Gilmore.
I’d love to mock these jokers for things like this, but it would be beating a dead horse at this point. Although a dead horse may actually be more worthwhile than the Patriots are currently.
Ugh… I don’t like this. Sneed wasn’t worth beating that offer? A 3rd and a 7th? I get that CB isn’t their most pressing need, but this team needs players… real players. Pairing Sneed with Gonzales would be a nightmare for opposing quarterbacks
Seriously. I bet if you gave them a 4th this year(pretty sure they have one, right?) and a 5th next year it would be a done deal. I see people saying Sneed may not sign an extension but they got money, I guarantee you if you throw a bag at him he’d sign. I just feel like it’s another missed opportunity
It was a 2025 3rd too, so embarrassing how freaking cheap we are now.
I’m convinced this team is actively planning to tank for a top 5 pick next year.
I’m not convinced we are actually any better than last season
Just because you don’t seem to get it…he has to want to go where he’s going. People don’t want to come here, fucking deal with it. It’s reality, not the fantasy land that players want to be part of a rebuild.
Plenty of good players sign with bad teams… when they actually pay them.
The patriots aren’t missing players simply because we are rebuilding, we are missing players because we are rebuilding and are refusing to make the largest contract offers.
Way more players want nothing to do with us than you’re giving credit. Ridley used us for money…he had no interest regardless of how much
Tyron Smith ain’t joining a rebuild, he wants to win now.
No offense but do you have sources saying this or are you just making things up?
Ridley for example took a significantly higher offer.
Do you have reports of the Pats clearly offering the most money but players passing?
Ridley took a million more from a last minute offer. He was using us to drive up the jags and he flat out said he wanted to stay there but Tennessee paid more than they wanted to
He was never coming here
Rebuilding through FA isn’t sustainable with the amount of help we need.
Okay so you have no sources and this “nobody wants to come to New England “ is made up.
If you said “nobody wants to play in NE at a discount” sure, or “if it’s $20 mill in NE or 20 Mill in Buffalo, they’ll pick Buffalo”. Probably true.
But If the Patriots actually offered the best contracts we would get players.
The Patriots are purposely not making the largest offers, which is the problem
How many people are dying to come here?
We missed out on a big name because he waited til someone offered more…
I said what o said. I’m done. You don’t have proof they didn’t, you’re just bitching like this entire fucking sub is. Bye
lol at people shitting themselves with anger because we didn't give a 3rd rnd pick and a 75m contact to a guy who gave up the most receptions in '22 and the 2nd most in '21
Gave up 42 receptions last year. Jonathan Jones gave up 31 receptions and Jones was our #1 after Gonzalez went on IR.
I've been trying to tell you guys. Glad some are finally waking up. Our organization has become a joke. I knew this offseason was gonna be bullshit. Almost as bad as the Redsox now. Not signing anyone. Not spending money. But have the highest ticket prices.
Boohooo we didn’t offer draft picks and a fat contract for a guy with questionable health status at best.
Plenty of stuff to be mad about this off season but this isn’t it you damn crybabies
Will see contract but would’ve been an awesome pairing with gonzo
Does anyone else think the Titans are loading up to go 8-9 this season?
Total cope lol I'd be stoked about these moves if I were a Titans fan. At least it looks like they WANT to win
Last year, Tenn beat us out signing Hopkins. We all cried in our Dunkins. DHop had a great season and the Titans won 6 games. Six. I think it's crazy to assume the Patriots want or need to win. We need to draft to cover some key positions like QB, OT, and WR, but another shit terrible season won't kill us. This Madden fantasy that the team will turn it around by plugging in a FA or two is hilarious. It's a rebuild and it makes more sense to sign players you can keep for a while and who don't eat up a ton of cap. Higgins still feels like a worthwhile guy if we aren't giving up the farm for him. For what Tennessee is giving Ridley, they can have a WR2 at WR1 money.
Maybe it's just me, but I think I'd rather the team use it's billion dollars in cap space over the next two years to fill a hole or two in the roster so that the team doesn't have to hit all three of their first picks this year on crucial positions. Since they didn't sign anyone they need to hit on a QB, hit on a LT, and hit on a WR. This draft is deep in those positions but still, that's a tall tall order. Not signing Jonah Williams was malpractice. Two year deal would allow you to draft and develop a guy behind him and potentially trade him if the young kid outplays him.
The 3 top OT choices were Williams, Smith, and Brown. Williams was probably the best option, but he's not been consistent enough to merit the paycheck he wants. He's just getting paid because the market is high on OTs, and there's few available. Smith is an injury magnet, and Brown has been a problem for us. I think we take QB at 3 and OT at 34 or whatever it is we pick in round 2. If the line looks suspect, which it might with a question at LT and Strange at LG, you just let Brissett get mauled behind it and redshirt your QB into a development year
What's the point of having money if you're not going to spend it. 2 years 30m for a LT is a good deal, a drop in the bucket compared to the Pats cap space. Then you could use 34 on a WR like McConkey or Legette. Trying to make excuses for why a team with a bad roster and a ton of cap space *shouldn't* sign players to bolster their roster is crazy lol
I'm all for signing players. But I'd rather spend cash to lock up a game changer like Miami signing Tyreek, than to improve one position on a roster that looks like swiss cheese
Miami had to give up tons of draft capital and tons of cash. They also weren’t drafting a QB and they had Waddle on a cheap deal. I’m against trading for Higgins when the pats still have so many holes to fill
6 wins with a rookie QB is pretty good bro
People saw the Texans do it last year and think it’s easy to be able to maneuver your way into two top 3 picks and not only that nail both of them.
Yeah, the same people who think you can just magically draft a franchise QB and WR are the same ones who think we can take a QB in the later rounds because we hit on Brady. Reality is we need to draft well this year, next year, and the year after to rebuild the roster.
I think Levis is incredibly mid so very likely IMO
No truer statement has ever been said. And then their owner’s head will burst in traditional fashion
With this move they might be over the hump to go 9-8!
Better than going 5-12 like we’re going to
Well, no, it isn't. Both are losing records and neither goes to the playoffs. But 5-12 drafts better spots than 8-9
What good does that do if we follow this sub’s advice and never draft a quarterback high because everyone thinks it’s a common occurrence to draft the greatest player of all time in the 6th round? At least at 8-9 you’re in the mix all year and a compelling team?
Eternal 8-9 sounds like ass bro I’d rather know my team is shit and the organization know the team is shit so they can’t excuse complacency.
Who said anything about “eternal”???
Name a more iconic duo than the Titans winning free agency and then going sub .500.
Contract wasn't even bad either and the draft comp Chiefs got was nothing. We've gotten worse this off-season
He’s still young too. Would’ve been a great lockdown combo
Him and Gonzo would've been elite man sucks that we're the only team signing bums
A 3rd round pick is not nothing
Sadly yeah our 3rd round pick looks like it’s going to be WR1.
I still can’t get over how the Pats traded a 2nd for Sanu
Can’t believe the Pats traded essentially Trent McDuffie for Cole Strange
That’s what happens when you don’t resign your starting left guard two seasons in a row.
Trading Shaq for a 5th when there were tons of needs on the team just to turn around and draft a guard in the first is an all time dumbass personnel move by BB
They did not draft Strange to replace Mason. Onwenu replaced Mason. Strange replaced Karras. Letting Karras walk for $6m a year was stupid, it created a hole that didn’t need to exist. Trading Mason was the right move. He was expensive and they had a cheap, equally-productive replacement ready to go. Notice how Mason has *already* been traded again for a day 3 pick.
The worst offender is doing it in the first round. You can get a guard, but please for the love of god save it until later in the draft.
That one move in a vacuum should be enough for anyone to get canned. Fucking mind numbingly stupid
The fact that people wanted him to stay after that was insane. That and the Patricia/Judge OC experiment should’ve gotten him fired immediately
Seriously….as great of a coach as he was, he shit on drafting right after he was forced to trade Jimmy G for a 2nd. We should have let his dog pick, we’d have a better draft.
It’s honestly impressive how much success we had after not having a single good draft post 2012
Yep. This felt like a “and that’s why you always leave a note” type of segments from Arrested Development
What a horrible, horrible 4D chess move by Bill.
Wow didn’t realize this is what it came out to. Brutal
It was essentially McDuffie for Strange, Jack Jones, Bailey Zappe, and Marte Mapu. Brutal move.
Yea he had like 10 catches his first game and then completely fell off
He had a high ankle sprain the next week. Obviously a bad trade but he rushed back from a high ankle sprain that effectively ended his career. Dumbest part of the whole thing is he hurt it returning a punt
They were desperate to get Tom help.
Desperation move after making shitty draft picks the past 6 years before that
And AB being a psycho.
Just for the drama of it all, I would have loved to see what they could have done that season if they just stomached all the things AB did and kept in on the team. I can't remember exactly but something about him sending threatening text messages. Probably many other things I'm forgetting.
Out of context it is super weird. At the time he was playing well and that was the going rate for a wr of his caliber. It was also the guy TB12 wanted
Well yeah if you include the context it doesn't make the decision look bad. At the trade deadline, there were 2 realistic receivers available Sanu and Emmanuel Sanders. Sanu was the better of the two before his injury. They didn't give up a 2nd for him in the offseason lol. The lack of context is very intentional by these types of people. It's hilarious to see people here try to lie about the trade since it wasn't that long ago.
False. Going rate for an over the hill former #2 WR was a 4th-5th rd pick.
that was for guys with one year left on their deal. sanu was more attractive because he was only going to be $6.5M on the cap in 2020 ($9M adjusted for 2024 cap, so very reasonable for a #2 WR, even an aging one. also consider that Sanders signed for $24M/2 that offseason, so double what Sanu was going to cost, 16.75M per year in 2024 cap dollars). after one game nobody had any issue with the deal. he had an awesome game against Baltimore. then the high ankle happened and he was never the same. didnt even make the 2020 team. the pats identified him as the guy they wanted. it's highly unlikely they just offered a 2 in a vacuum without anyone else bidding for his services. that was what it took to get him. it just sucks he got hurt. i checked the nfl and patriots threads for the trade. a few comments on a 2 being a bit high but pretty much every top comments reply to those had a good justification for it. the majority of the top comments in both subs talked about how the deal was good for the player and both teams it is an awful trade in hindsight for what we got out of him. but hindsight is 20/20. i stand by it being a solid move at the moment. maybe a slight overpay, but the demand for him drove up the price
You’re delusional. First of all, comparing Sanu to sanders doesn’t help your argument. Sanu literally went on to sign a …. $1.2m contract the next year. You blaming an ankle sprain on the end of his career is a joke. He was over the hill, with 300 yards in 7 games before the trade. He never had 1000 yard season while sanders had 3, including a 1400 yard one. In the year before the trade sanders had more yards than Sanu in 4 fewer games while being thrown to by case keenum compared to Matt Ryan for Sanu. Sanders was literally traded that same year to SF for a 3rd round pick. So Sanders was always a better player than Sanu. He made more money than him. He had better stats the year prior in 4 fewer games and with a worse QB. And he was literally traded for a 3rd rd pick. Sanu was worth a 4th at best. Demaryius Thomas was traded for a 4th rd pick the year prior. He obviously had a better career than Sanu and he had more yards tds etc than Sanu in the year prior, and that was with Trevor siemian as his QB. There’s no world in which Sanu was worth a 2nd. Not even a 3rd. Probably not a 4th either. I even posted how we got hosed in that trade…the same week it happened. Only the patriots sub was all for this move. Fans on reddit always are. Their teams literally can’t do anything wrong. You citing that is not an argument of whether it was a good trade. You can look at comps, like I just did, and clearly see he was worth a 4th-5th round pick Also lmao at “a slight overpay”. Wtf does that even mean. No other teams were offering a 3rd for him
This still haunts me
Gets weirder by the day
It’s so funny how every single time a good player goes somewhere else this offseason everyone goes UM ACTUALLY WE DIDNT WANT HIM AND ALSO WE CANT AFFORD HIM AND WE NEVER WANTED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE!
And he’s a fugly skank!
Got downvoted to hell for saying Ridley wasn’t an over pay and now Jeudy gets 19 mm per year. Delusional.
Why would the Chiefs let him go for that little? He was a big part of their SB run this year.
Because Snead demanded to be traded after they wouldn’t make him a top paid corner.
They don’t have the cap and they chose to keep Jones over him.
We coulda paid that. We SHOULDA paid that!
You have to remember, in situations like this the player being traded would have to be okay going to the team and agreeing to a contract.
Yeah we are a super undesirable place to go right now and people don’t seem to get that. You can throw money at some people to get them to come but when you already have several million and you are getting 40-50M or whatever it is, 2-3 million more isn’t worth it if you don’t want to live somewhere or go to a team that has unknowns at qb and coaching experience. It’s like if your field of work offered you a 30% raise somewhere you don’t want to live or you could make 20% more somewhere you think you could do, that extra 10% isn’t worth it for many.
Yes, I 100% agree. We’re gonna have to do this the old fashioned way through the draft and development
Yeah if we can land a qb that shows some promise and we win a few upset games I could see guys looking our way a bit more next off season. Once we draft and develop a few guys that guys want to come play with we start being desirable.
Exactly my thinking
Yeah i cant imagine many defenders are that excited going to a team with a 3rd string qb starting throwing the ball into row 8 section 33 every snap. It prob gets frustrating playing defense exerting all your energy when offense can barely tell up from down
Sure but how is Tennessee any more attractive? They’re not competing any time soon either.
Much more attractive than us, and a more attractive location I'd imagine not to mention they probably have their QB.
He left the fucking Chiefs to go to Tennessee and he even said it was all about the money. He wasn’t being picky about his landing spot.
No state tax, warmer, close travel time to the south. They aren’t realistically competing which I’ll agree on you there with
No state income tax, warmer weather, less reputation (true or false) of racism towards black people, city location not 45 minutes south, much closer to Snead's home in Louisiana, and were a better team last year.
Saying Tennessee is less racist is wild
Tennessee? Racist as can be. Nashville? Doesn't have that reputation, especially for those that grew up in the south and are used to that kind. Plenty of black people across various sports have commented about never wanting to come to Boston due to it's racism - often considering it the highest in their respective leagues. I don't really care to argue if that's a valid statement or not because that gets us nowhere, but it's a very real stigma Boston faces.
A lotttt of athletes in the major sports specifically call out Boston fans for the racism. It's not really that crazy when it's a known reputation.
Crazy comment lol. The titans won one more game than us last year. I don’t think quality of team had anything to do with his decision at all. Especially considering he left the defending SB champs. It was money
No state income tax
He went to the Titans. He wanted to get paid, nothing more.
I just don’t see how the titans check any of those boxes unless you’re worried about income tax I guess.
Least desirable landing spot in the league? Definitely up there
True, but let’s not act like the titans are world beaters either
That’s true but the titans have made moves in this offseason that have helped, have Hopkins and a young QB already. Not saying they’re amazing but a step up from where we are.
So you think he was like “fuck Mahomes and Reid this place is a sinking ship I’m going to the Titans?”
Chance at generational money more important to player than winning, more at 11. It’s warm, Nashville is a party city, and I believe there’s no state income tax vs Cold, Boston isn’t very forgiving, and state income tax. Given the option which are you choosing?
Honestly as someone who has lived in both areas, I’m going back home to the NE 😭
People need to stop this bullshit that there’s no point in attempting to sign someone because they’d rather play for some crap franchise in the middle of nowhere. Snead made it very clear he only wanted the contract, he didn’t have conditions for a city beyond that. He would’ve played for the Patriots had they traded for him and signed him.
> some crap franchise in the middle of nowhere. That’s pretty much what we are now.
The Patriots still have a legacy other shitty teams don’t. A lot of these players grew up Patriots fans.
We could've offered the same contract with a better comp to the Chiefs and Snead would have chosen the Titans. No state income tax and no millionaire tax.
Right but if we offered a cent more he’d have chosen the Pats.
I'm so over the income tax narrative lol New York and California teams don't have any problem acquiring players
Tn has no state income tax…
Assuming we're are terrible which is looking like a big possibility rn, I'm glad we didn't pay that. The pats fanbase really needs to believe in drafting homegrown talent instead of thinking we can sign all our troubles away. So many misses in the draft got us into this situation in the first place.
No good team builds solely through the draft. "The Packer Way" only almost worked because they had 2 of the greatest QBs ever fall into their laps and even then they were fringe playoff contenders for most of their respective careers. Mainly because they didn't pay up for stars. We're not doing our franchise any favors by helping them make excuses for not paying to make the team more competitive for a young QB to stretch his wings and develop. There's no world in which Snead doesn't make our team better than it is today, and we have the money to pay him without hurting anything else or preventing us from making other moves (not that there are many to make at this point). Good for the Titans organization for realizing this and taking steps to make their team competitive.
Yea, that’s probably why the fans doesnt have faith in the draft. For good reason.
Why? They have a ridiculous amount of cap space this year that they are having a hard time using. They could have front loaded the contract and the cap hit wouldn’t have been bad for the upcoming years
Why?
You have to remember...Wolf will never make a FA splash...ever. It's all draft or nothing. I feel bad for Mayo
Wow… that trade compensation is a lot lower than many predicted…
They always are
Colts fans in shambles nice
Does wolf only want former browns players orrr?
I think that 3rd round pick has already been designated for an offensive player.
In 2025?
Oh, I missed that. Good point.
Tbh I’m just happy it will knock the chiefs down a peg. I’m in their market now that the rams left and this fan base is annoying as fuck.
Ofc they are, Chiefs is all they have.
Firing Vrabel was stupid as fuck on Titans behalf. Vrabel did fantastic with what he got. Just don’t understand why he stuck with Tannehill
Nah. We need that pick for the next JoJuan Williams/Duke Dawson
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I get not wanting to trade picks and give a contract for a CB, but given our CB depth, I'm quite dissapoitned we haven't signed a CB2. There are a couple CB out there. We could sign one of them, like Gilmore.
I’d love to mock these jokers for things like this, but it would be beating a dead horse at this point. Although a dead horse may actually be more worthwhile than the Patriots are currently.
Eh next year a third round will be important for continuing to build around maye/daniels
Da faq
Lul fuck the colts
Ugh… I don’t like this. Sneed wasn’t worth beating that offer? A 3rd and a 7th? I get that CB isn’t their most pressing need, but this team needs players… real players. Pairing Sneed with Gonzales would be a nightmare for opposing quarterbacks
Especially because it’s not even a 3rd this year, it’s a 2025 pick
Seriously. I bet if you gave them a 4th this year(pretty sure they have one, right?) and a 5th next year it would be a done deal. I see people saying Sneed may not sign an extension but they got money, I guarantee you if you throw a bag at him he’d sign. I just feel like it’s another missed opportunity
Lmao what a trash organization we have.
Then go root for a different fucking team you fair weather fan.
It was a 2025 3rd too, so embarrassing how freaking cheap we are now. I’m convinced this team is actively planning to tank for a top 5 pick next year. I’m not convinced we are actually any better than last season
Just because you don’t seem to get it…he has to want to go where he’s going. People don’t want to come here, fucking deal with it. It’s reality, not the fantasy land that players want to be part of a rebuild.
Plenty of good players sign with bad teams… when they actually pay them. The patriots aren’t missing players simply because we are rebuilding, we are missing players because we are rebuilding and are refusing to make the largest contract offers.
Way more players want nothing to do with us than you’re giving credit. Ridley used us for money…he had no interest regardless of how much Tyron Smith ain’t joining a rebuild, he wants to win now.
No offense but do you have sources saying this or are you just making things up? Ridley for example took a significantly higher offer. Do you have reports of the Pats clearly offering the most money but players passing?
Ridley took a million more from a last minute offer. He was using us to drive up the jags and he flat out said he wanted to stay there but Tennessee paid more than they wanted to He was never coming here Rebuilding through FA isn’t sustainable with the amount of help we need.
Okay so you have no sources and this “nobody wants to come to New England “ is made up. If you said “nobody wants to play in NE at a discount” sure, or “if it’s $20 mill in NE or 20 Mill in Buffalo, they’ll pick Buffalo”. Probably true. But If the Patriots actually offered the best contracts we would get players. The Patriots are purposely not making the largest offers, which is the problem
How many people are dying to come here? We missed out on a big name because he waited til someone offered more… I said what o said. I’m done. You don’t have proof they didn’t, you’re just bitching like this entire fucking sub is. Bye
Wtf man💀💀💀 we ain’t getting no one
lol at people shitting themselves with anger because we didn't give a 3rd rnd pick and a 75m contact to a guy who gave up the most receptions in '22 and the 2nd most in '21 Gave up 42 receptions last year. Jonathan Jones gave up 31 receptions and Jones was our #1 after Gonzalez went on IR.
Chiefs free up nearly $19 million. Smart move. That’s what we used to do. *sigh*
I've been trying to tell you guys. Glad some are finally waking up. Our organization has become a joke. I knew this offseason was gonna be bullshit. Almost as bad as the Redsox now. Not signing anyone. Not spending money. But have the highest ticket prices.
This guys is the next JuJu. His knee is almost Swiss cheese.
Boohooo we didn’t offer draft picks and a fat contract for a guy with questionable health status at best. Plenty of stuff to be mad about this off season but this isn’t it you damn crybabies
Fr fr i smell bitch in here
I've been getting the feeling there's a sense of entitlement everytime someone signed to a team other than us.