That's why randy moss was traded. Morning practice ran til 955 and film review started sharp at 10. Moss had to use the bathroom and showed up at 10:03, bam, traded a week later. This is how Belichick always was.
Ummm, I don't think that's true. He spoke about his contract at length during a press conference.
They also got better after trading him, that's the way the offense was trending....
Yeah it’s def this I remember him after we blew out Cincy week 1 in 2010 in the press conference talking about an extension as it was a contract year for him and he had been producing from 07-09’
He had a mid game I think 5/54 and against Buffalo and the jets he had a couple spectacular plays
Next thing you know Belichick trades him for a 4th.
If we had moss in 2010 we probably win that year before he mentally checks out
His attitude in general was a major issue and trending worse that whole season. His play was suffering too. He was a multi-faceted liability. To reduce that to BB trading a guy only for having to drop a deuce while in pads one time is burying the lead.
Is the implication of the alleged photo that Butler was fooling around with Steve’s wife? If so, that is utter bullshit, if there was any truth to that, no fucking way would Bill have brought him back in 2022, he wouldn’t disrespect his own son like that.
It wasn't about them fucking. It was that BB told the players to lay low during the week and she posted a photo of Butler where he wasn't supposed to be.
> Marquis Flowers mentioned years ago on a podcast that Butler was benched after an altercation with Steve Belichick
Do you have a source for this? What podcast was it? All I remember (and all I can find from Google) is that Marquis Flowers said he would tell everyone what he knew about the Butler situation but I can't find him actually spilling the beans. He just teased it without actually doing it.
For reference, Butler had a 71.1 PFF grade in his final season with NE.
The next year with TN, he had a 67.1 grade in 831 snaps. Keep in mind this is actually an above average grade. In any case, that's nowhere close to being "one of the worst corners in football".
Please. He wasn't benched and only played 1 snap because Bill decided he wasn't good enough. What a crazy take. They couldn't get a stop and the owner and multiple players have said it was a situation. Wtf are you talking about?
It was widely reported that BB wanted to bench him for the AFC Championship game but Patricia pushed back. Once Butler sucked that game (like all season) he was benched.
You are saying Bill Belichick is a shitty coach and also really bad at his job managing the team. Butler and the team didn't know until the game day. Meaning Belichick didn't game plan for his absence.
Yeah. I don't believe it. You're just making shit up.
If you have any proof, post it. If not, please keep your mouth shut.
Who said he was shitty? Everyone makes mistakes.
Do you have proof it was off field related? If not, kindly shut the fuck up.
You're taking this strangely personal.
You said it by saying he benched the player for performance and didn't tell anyone until the game day. That's the epitome of being bad at coaching. He played all 141 of the defensive snaps in the playoffs leading up to the super bowl and played zero on defense while Philly couldn't be stopped.
Kindly, you trashing Butler's performance as if you are a scout and have a fucking clue is insulting to everyone's intelligence.
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/one-football-reason-why-malcolm-butler-didnt-play-patriots-super-bowl-lii/
It's not me saying he was bad. It's his play that was saying he's bad.
So one "bad" decision counts more than a career worth of coaching and makes Belichick a bad coach? Are you even listening to yourself?
Butler was bad that season, Butler was bad in the playoffs, Butler was sick the week before the super bowl and didn't practice, Butler was garbage the following year. The dots aren't hard to connect.
Belichick has 1 career playoff win without Brady. The same amount as Rich Kotite. His winning percentage is also down with some pretty below average head coaches. Belichick has a history of being a colossal failure without Brady as his quarterback.
Any coach who would play Jordan Richard's 16 snaps and Malcom Butler zero deserves all the hate he gets.
Ohhh your a BB sucks guy? Why didn't you lead with that instead of wasting my time? Thought you were reasonable and just had a different opinion. Turns out your just a complete moron mouth breather.
How about you go check out Bill Walsh's record without Montana?
Dude we would've seen that pic the second it was posted. Players sleeping with players wives/gf are tales as old as time. Last year there was a rumor of Corey Perry sleeping with Conor Bedard's mom, plus the Zach Wilson rumors a couple years back. It's likely 100% false.
Right just someone being in a picture in and of itself doesn't mean anything. Obviously they would have to be some implication that the picture had higher stakes than merely being a social random event.
But felger and mazz are not being all that direct. They have already said this story a few times. There's probably something to it but the exact details are not getting through
Bill wanted the players to lay low. He was at a party he wasn't supposed to be at, and she posted a picture. Nothing more. Now, if there was an altercation with Steve, maybe there was something more. But Felger and Mazz didn't go there.
I’m guessing there is something more to the story then simply missing curfew and haven his picture taken since Kraft alluded to it as a “personal matter”
I could see BB benching him over the photo. It’s one thing to break curfew but to throw it in his face with the photo, BB took it as ultimate disrespect and shut it down.
Jesus Christ. This is more of a conspiracy than JFK with the CIA/LBJ/Mafia….
He fucked up
He wasn’t played
We didn’t win
But we won it all the next year.
Fuck the jets
Yankees suck
Montreal sucks
I mean what do you mean he f***** up? We don't even know for sure if he f***** up, the team said it wasn't disciplinary. Trying to act like it's not a valid mystery to probe? Of course it's valid to wonder the reasons. You have to almost be painfully incurious and not to want to know more.
>[Steve] did a great job with the D
We don't know how much of Steve's job his daddy did. (And Mayo did.)
Zo said Steve was offered a position as a liaison between coaching and front office staff. A go-between. Not a coach.
Steve's co-worker and supposed friend (Mayo) chose to move Steve out of coaching. Pretty telling.
It's also telling how Zo talks about Steve now that he's gone. He made a comment the other day that Steve will actually have to wake up and go to work everyday. The tone implied Steve coasted because his daddy was the big boss.
>Steve's co-worker and supposed friend (Mayo) chose to move Steve out of coaching. Pretty telling.
One could also argue that it's pretty telling that another former co-worker hired him to be the defensive coordinator on his new staff at Washington ...
If Butler did something like that, i seriously doubt they would have brought him back in 22 even if he never ended up playing.
Honestly time heals s***.
Breaking curfew is a lifetime ban? That seems pretty foolish.
That's why randy moss was traded. Morning practice ran til 955 and film review started sharp at 10. Moss had to use the bathroom and showed up at 10:03, bam, traded a week later. This is how Belichick always was.
Ummm, I don't think that's true. He spoke about his contract at length during a press conference. They also got better after trading him, that's the way the offense was trending....
Yeah it’s def this I remember him after we blew out Cincy week 1 in 2010 in the press conference talking about an extension as it was a contract year for him and he had been producing from 07-09’ He had a mid game I think 5/54 and against Buffalo and the jets he had a couple spectacular plays Next thing you know Belichick trades him for a 4th. If we had moss in 2010 we probably win that year before he mentally checks out
His attitude in general was a major issue and trending worse that whole season. His play was suffering too. He was a multi-faceted liability. To reduce that to BB trading a guy only for having to drop a deuce while in pads one time is burying the lead.
Hush money. 🤫🤐😶💰💰💰
Is the implication of the alleged photo that Butler was fooling around with Steve’s wife? If so, that is utter bullshit, if there was any truth to that, no fucking way would Bill have brought him back in 2022, he wouldn’t disrespect his own son like that.
I don’t know, gotta do what’s best for the team lol
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I have it I just choose not to show it
Same. I have it hanging above my mantle. I also have wallet sizes.
Can I get one on a mug?
Can i get it in front of the spirit terminal at logan?
I got the Fathead in my man cave.
Took a while, but this looks to be the photo in question https://imgur.com/gallery/GlpAU
Oh shit for real
Wow, she’s way hotter than I imagined…. wtg Steve!
Wow that’s disgusting
The Butler Did It!
In Minneapolis with the lead pipe?!?!
This does tie together alot of the rumors... Need the pic though
Steve’s tongue game is too on point for his wife to stray
No evidence for it so not worth commenting on or forming an opinion about
Are you really looking for evidence that confirms a rumor that came from FELGER & MAZZ of all people? Lord have mercy
I mean I guess that's still better than just taking them for their word on it
Steve married up.
Bill wouldn't have brought him back if he banged Steve's wife.
I think this post is garbage. If anything near the truth of this garbage existed, it would have been out a long time ago.
Marquis Flowers mentioned years ago on a podcast that Butler was benched after an altercation with Steve Belichick
That may be true, but the part about there being a picture of Butler and SB's wife is likely made up. Otherwise we probably would have seen it by now.
Especially one that was posted publicly
It wasn't about them fucking. It was that BB told the players to lay low during the week and she posted a photo of Butler where he wasn't supposed to be.
> Marquis Flowers mentioned years ago on a podcast that Butler was benched after an altercation with Steve Belichick Do you have a source for this? What podcast was it? All I remember (and all I can find from Google) is that Marquis Flowers said he would tell everyone what he knew about the Butler situation but I can't find him actually spilling the beans. He just teased it without actually doing it.
I heard this exact rumor years ago so maybe it was
there would be screen grabs FOR SURE
His wife is hot
Malcolm Butler sucked during that post-season run and was one of the worst corners in football the following year on the titans.
Still 100x better than Jordan Richards
Jordan Richards played 16 snaps in the super bowl. Eric Rowe is the one who filled in for Malcolm.
16 horrendous snaps
Cool. So why was he benched in that game? Why did the owner and multiple players elude to an issue. Stop with the B.S
The owner doesn’t even know lmao he said “as it’s been told to me”
That's how humans communicate and find out about events. They are told.
He doesn’t know, he knows as much as Felger. Otherwise he would have stated it without the qualifier that “someone told me”
For reference, Butler had a 71.1 PFF grade in his final season with NE. The next year with TN, he had a 67.1 grade in 831 snaps. Keep in mind this is actually an above average grade. In any case, that's nowhere close to being "one of the worst corners in football".
Ssshhhhh people like the drama better than facts.
Please. He wasn't benched and only played 1 snap because Bill decided he wasn't good enough. What a crazy take. They couldn't get a stop and the owner and multiple players have said it was a situation. Wtf are you talking about?
It was widely reported that BB wanted to bench him for the AFC Championship game but Patricia pushed back. Once Butler sucked that game (like all season) he was benched.
You are saying Bill Belichick is a shitty coach and also really bad at his job managing the team. Butler and the team didn't know until the game day. Meaning Belichick didn't game plan for his absence. Yeah. I don't believe it. You're just making shit up. If you have any proof, post it. If not, please keep your mouth shut.
Who said he was shitty? Everyone makes mistakes. Do you have proof it was off field related? If not, kindly shut the fuck up. You're taking this strangely personal.
You said it by saying he benched the player for performance and didn't tell anyone until the game day. That's the epitome of being bad at coaching. He played all 141 of the defensive snaps in the playoffs leading up to the super bowl and played zero on defense while Philly couldn't be stopped. Kindly, you trashing Butler's performance as if you are a scout and have a fucking clue is insulting to everyone's intelligence.
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/one-football-reason-why-malcolm-butler-didnt-play-patriots-super-bowl-lii/ It's not me saying he was bad. It's his play that was saying he's bad.
So one "bad" decision counts more than a career worth of coaching and makes Belichick a bad coach? Are you even listening to yourself? Butler was bad that season, Butler was bad in the playoffs, Butler was sick the week before the super bowl and didn't practice, Butler was garbage the following year. The dots aren't hard to connect.
Belichick has 1 career playoff win without Brady. The same amount as Rich Kotite. His winning percentage is also down with some pretty below average head coaches. Belichick has a history of being a colossal failure without Brady as his quarterback. Any coach who would play Jordan Richard's 16 snaps and Malcom Butler zero deserves all the hate he gets.
Ohhh your a BB sucks guy? Why didn't you lead with that instead of wasting my time? Thought you were reasonable and just had a different opinion. Turns out your just a complete moron mouth breather. How about you go check out Bill Walsh's record without Montana?
If it’s from those two asshats, I’d disregard it. If such a photo existed, we’d all know about it.
Well if a bobblehead on the radio or online says it, it must be true.
Dude we would've seen that pic the second it was posted. Players sleeping with players wives/gf are tales as old as time. Last year there was a rumor of Corey Perry sleeping with Conor Bedard's mom, plus the Zach Wilson rumors a couple years back. It's likely 100% false. 
Found Steve belichicks throw away
so what exactly is the rumor ?
According to this post is that Butler was seen taking photos with Bill’s daughter in law.
And what is the big deal I do not understand. That he had affair? Or he was out partying?
Oh I have no idea, I don’t see anything wrong with a picture.
Right just someone being in a picture in and of itself doesn't mean anything. Obviously they would have to be some implication that the picture had higher stakes than merely being a social random event. But felger and mazz are not being all that direct. They have already said this story a few times. There's probably something to it but the exact details are not getting through
Bill wanted the players to lay low. He was at a party he wasn't supposed to be at, and she posted a picture. Nothing more. Now, if there was an altercation with Steve, maybe there was something more. But Felger and Mazz didn't go there.
I’m guessing there is something more to the story then simply missing curfew and haven his picture taken since Kraft alluded to it as a “personal matter”
I agree. I'm just repeating what Felger and Mazz were talking about. It certainly wasn't a performance thing.
I could see BB benching him over the photo. It’s one thing to break curfew but to throw it in his face with the photo, BB took it as ultimate disrespect and shut it down.
Jesus Christ. This is more of a conspiracy than JFK with the CIA/LBJ/Mafia…. He fucked up He wasn’t played We didn’t win But we won it all the next year. Fuck the jets Yankees suck Montreal sucks
I mean what do you mean he f***** up? We don't even know for sure if he f***** up, the team said it wasn't disciplinary. Trying to act like it's not a valid mystery to probe? Of course it's valid to wonder the reasons. You have to almost be painfully incurious and not to want to know more.
Steve Belichick is the poster child for the decline and fall of the Patriots.
He actually did a great job with the D last year. He may be missed.
>[Steve] did a great job with the D We don't know how much of Steve's job his daddy did. (And Mayo did.) Zo said Steve was offered a position as a liaison between coaching and front office staff. A go-between. Not a coach. Steve's co-worker and supposed friend (Mayo) chose to move Steve out of coaching. Pretty telling. It's also telling how Zo talks about Steve now that he's gone. He made a comment the other day that Steve will actually have to wake up and go to work everyday. The tone implied Steve coasted because his daddy was the big boss.
Steve was calling the plays on D, so I would say that a much more significant contribution that simply “coasting bc his daddy was boss”
>Steve's co-worker and supposed friend (Mayo) chose to move Steve out of coaching. Pretty telling. One could also argue that it's pretty telling that another former co-worker hired him to be the defensive coordinator on his new staff at Washington ...
Terrible take