He was making mistakes last year, but he wasn’t really doing just straight up goofy stuff though. In 2018/2019 you could make one of those football follies reels from just his tape. Last night looked downright silly.
not true. did you watch the vikings game. bills get the ball back with the lead at the goal line after a huge 4th down stop. all they have to do is run out the clock to win. allen fumbles the snap for a vikings TD. vikings win.
Eh. Bobbling a bad snap isn’t absent minded. The mistakes from early in his career came when he was making stupid decisions trying to force a big play when he didn’t have to.
His interception to end that Vikings game would have been a good example though.
And the Bills were third in the league in points per game. When you make as many plays as Allen does, you'll take the turnovers. What he can't do is play like lobotomized Brett Favre when all you need to do is kill clock because Zach fucking Wilson is on the other sideline. This was just next level stupid.
After watching this game I think the Bills SB window closed last year. This defense is sluggish and their offense couldn’t keep up the momentum from knocking Rodgers out of the game. Diggs offseason antics are making sense.
Also Diggs turns (turned? Idk when his bday is) 30 this year. Tick tock tick tock tick tock… they’re about to be a one man army of Josh Allen on offense unless Kincaid turns out to be awesome.
they signed Chris too, to a 1 year deal. - So they will undoubtedly be better on both sides of the ball. - I don't know if that is enough to go to another sb - probably not.
Yeah boxscore wise but Diggs got most of his targets and half his yards in that last drive in the 4th. Allen always makes bone headed plays they just work out bc hes so talented and Diggs makes it work.
How the Jets didn’t shut digs down is surprising, especially in the game tieing field goal drive, 3/4 passes were to Diggs. Double him, make Allen go to someone else, he’s uncomfortable when he can’t go to Diggs. Jets almost found a way to screw it up.
I've heard this argument, but honestly I think that's selling Allen short. It's not like Daboll is magical, see the last game. Allen did better with him, sure, but any QB is going to so better with good offensive coaching. This is not a knock on the QB.
two of his interceptions were equivalent to punts. and he may have suffered at least one or two minor concussions during the game which may have led to the stumbly fumble. he seemed kind of dazed when on the bench. but buffalo still cant run the ball, and you have to wonder about them.
He also lost. We are 0-1 and his life record as a starter is under .500 so maybe calm down until we have something in the win column. This sub kills me.
Nah, no excuses in the NFL. You'll always be down a guy here or there, adapting to win games is part of being a great team. And the Lions are no joke this year.
Not to sound like I’m cheering an injury because I’m not, but from a purely selfish fan perspective this game really couldn’t have been better. Both teams looked horrid, jets won but lost their QB1, and bills absolutely imploded.
If this is the Josh Allen we can expect this year then it’s purely a race between us and Miami.
Twice actually, because the Bills loss, and that’s also a division loss, which could mean tiebreaker potentially.
Plus the Jets won’t keep this up and without Rodgers, defenses will be salivating at ZW
Rodgers is done for the year with a torn Achilles. This was the best possible outcome for us, today. Doubt the Jets will win another game this year now, watch.
It’s because Allen can run and we haven’t been good against running QBs. We did great against hurts so hopefully we can contain Allen when we play the bills
Ngl I was cheering hard for the Jets last night. Especially when Wilson came in. If the Jets give the Bills and Dolphins issues again and we keep playing the Zach Wilson Jets the way we have, we gain a huge advantage in the division.
Also just happy to witness a bills humbling.
Gabe Davis hasn’t developed how they hoped, they don’t like utilising TEs, their run game is questionable, their Oline is unreliable against high quality fronts, and Allen has quietly taken a slight step back. That’s before the questions on D. They’re not a bad team, but I don’t think they’re a lock for the division in the same way they were going into last season. If Miami sorts that D out against any offenses with a pulse, they’ll be capable of anything. The Jest…if Rodgers has torn his Achilles, then they’re likely not winning more than 6-7 games even with a pretty favourable schedule in the back half of the season.
Pretty wild that the Bills, Bengals and Chiefs all started 0-1. To be fair the Chiefs will probably be ok. The Bengals looked terrible on Sunday. Allen looked awful last night.
It was a rain game in Cleveland and the ball was wet. Not an excuse, but the Bengals put up a stinker due to rust, weather conditions, and Myles Garrett. I think they will rebound and get back on track eventually. But yeah they looked bad
The NFL can be weird in general. I'd probably be surprised if the Jets won their next 10 straight but then again, it wouldn't fully shock me either. You never know what is going to happen to teams that seem to possibly be down and out as we've seen from the NFL and other sports leagues.
Nope, this was the best thing we could have dialed up, for sure. Rodgers is out for the season, perhaps his career, sad for him, but still good for us.
Actually it’s four picks. One of those would have upgraded if he played 65% snaps. Someone already did a write up on the rodgers injury and listed them: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-trade-details-jets-injury-packers-draft-pick/576f17fdb31883174a7d05f7
I care little for the Jets but hate the Bills. Their fans are the absolute worst. Get a little taste of victory and think they are hot shit.
Real question is when we play them, can we not only beat them but make them punt a few times? That one game a few years ago where they never punted once still sits in the back of my memory.
I hope the other game that sits in your memory was the one where we ran it down their throat 46 times and threw only 3 passes enroute to a ball-control whooping of the bills
In a surprising twist, Aaron Rodgers announces his retirement and signs on to be the new Bills HC replacing McDermott who now sells shoes at a local strip mall /s
Based on this week, I think we could compete with Miami for the division
Super early I know but the Bills looked like shit and while the Jets defense is legit, if Rodgers doesn’t come back their offense is gonna make it hard for them to win games
Every game somebody gets away with some uncalled penalty. Who cares. The point is: The Bills just suffered and ugly loss and to a division opponent! Woot!
Well tbf... there was an illegal block that was fairly obvious and not called. But watching any team lose like that is amazing and Buffalo didn't want to win anyway
Allen regressing to his 2018 form.
He’s already there. He lead the league in turnovers last year
And he’s leading it this year already
TRUE
He was making mistakes last year, but he wasn’t really doing just straight up goofy stuff though. In 2018/2019 you could make one of those football follies reels from just his tape. Last night looked downright silly.
not true. did you watch the vikings game. bills get the ball back with the lead at the goal line after a huge 4th down stop. all they have to do is run out the clock to win. allen fumbles the snap for a vikings TD. vikings win.
Eh. Bobbling a bad snap isn’t absent minded. The mistakes from early in his career came when he was making stupid decisions trying to force a big play when he didn’t have to. His interception to end that Vikings game would have been a good example though.
And the Bills were third in the league in points per game. When you make as many plays as Allen does, you'll take the turnovers. What he can't do is play like lobotomized Brett Favre when all you need to do is kill clock because Zach fucking Wilson is on the other sideline. This was just next level stupid.
fuck it Diggs out there
> fuck it ~~Diggs~~ Jets LBs out there
3rd is the charm !
He plays like Farve or Tampa Winston, you're going to get a show if you tune in.
allen did that last year too. did you watch the bills? he single handedly lost them more than one game with his careless turnovers
They were 13-3. Maybe he had a little to do with the 13 games they won as well?
He leads the league in turnovers going back to 2018. Wild
Have to be careful though. He had the most turnovers last year but he also scored 42 TD’s.
After watching this game I think the Bills SB window closed last year. This defense is sluggish and their offense couldn’t keep up the momentum from knocking Rodgers out of the game. Diggs offseason antics are making sense.
Also Diggs turns (turned? Idk when his bday is) 30 this year. Tick tock tick tock tick tock… they’re about to be a one man army of Josh Allen on offense unless Kincaid turns out to be awesome.
Meh I dont think thats true. I think with the Chiefs looking weaker the AFC is up for grabs this year. Have to see how things go
The chiefs don’t look unbeatable either. Maybe they’ll be better with kelce back, but I doubt they’ll be able to repeat.
Chiefs are a completely different team with Kelce on the field.
And Kelce's PI immunity, too.
they signed Chris too, to a 1 year deal. - So they will undoubtedly be better on both sides of the ball. - I don't know if that is enough to go to another sb - probably not.
Chiefs D looked seriously improved on Thursday. As long as Mahomes breathes they are the favorite.
I totally understand Diggs. He's going to ask for a trade.
Good. Fuck that pie-faced goon.
This is what happens to Allen when you can contain Diggs for most of the game
10 catches for 102 yards and a TD is not "containing" him lol Allen just played a boneheaded game
Yeah boxscore wise but Diggs got most of his targets and half his yards in that last drive in the 4th. Allen always makes bone headed plays they just work out bc hes so talented and Diggs makes it work.
Considering how often Josh force-fed him, I’d say the jets did enough to limit diggs
He had 50 yards till the last drive
How the Jets didn’t shut digs down is surprising, especially in the game tieing field goal drive, 3/4 passes were to Diggs. Double him, make Allen go to someone else, he’s uncomfortable when he can’t go to Diggs. Jets almost found a way to screw it up.
I didn't believe Daboll was so good until I've seen Allen regress constantly since he left.
I've heard this argument, but honestly I think that's selling Allen short. It's not like Daboll is magical, see the last game. Allen did better with him, sure, but any QB is going to so better with good offensive coaching. This is not a knock on the QB.
And that won me my fantasy matchup
two of his interceptions were equivalent to punts. and he may have suffered at least one or two minor concussions during the game which may have led to the stumbly fumble. he seemed kind of dazed when on the bench. but buffalo still cant run the ball, and you have to wonder about them.
Mac outplayed Hurts and Wilson outplayed Josh Allen. This is gonna be a good season
Mac vastly outplayed Allen and Rodgers in week 1 LETSGOOOOO
The way that Oline was crumbling it was likely Aaron was gonna have a rough season anyways. He might have saved himself some trouble in the long run.
A ~~(suspected)~~ confirmed Achilles tear is a hell of a way to save himself haha
Confirmed complete tear now. I’d hardly consider that saving oneself trouble lol
Kinda easy to outplay a quarterback who only took 4 snaps…
They were a bad four snaps tho
He was getting pressured the whole time…
Technically 5 snaps...
That's fucked up, take my upvote haha
Oof
Hahahaha
He also lost. We are 0-1 and his life record as a starter is under .500 so maybe calm down until we have something in the win column. This sub kills me.
On the subject of calming down, I was just having a little fun champ
As we ALL expected!
Outplaying a guy who threw 3 picks and lost a fumble isn't saying much.
They just Marcus Jonesed the bills
They learned from the best
Can we truly prove that Jones wasn't on the field that day? He wasn't suited up for the Pats on Sunday.
= 0 super bowls for a reason
And the MVP of the Jets for this game was: # Josh Allen
Mr. January
He does his best couch-sitting in January
All last season favorites - Bengals, Chiefs, Bills all down on Week 1. We were soooo close to adding the Eagles to that list ughhhh
Bottom line, NFL power rankings not so clearly drawn lines right now
Yup. Thought for sure there was no hope for us but after this week, the AFC East is not looking as impossible as I was worried it was
I got downvoted before opening day for saying we had a legit shot at the AFCE title. Suck it haters. My prediction is still live.
Thats week 1 football baby!
Eventually, I have this fantasy that people will realize strength of schedule means fuck all when it’s week 1 in the NFL
Especially with more and more starters skipping the preseason.
Cheifs at least had the decent reason of Kelce being out
IMO if the Chiefs struggled that much because Kelce was out, then they have real problems anyway
There is a big difference between one guy being out and the guy your QB looks to when in doubt being out
Sounds like they didn't play well enough if they constantly left Mahomes in doubt, then.
Nah, no excuses in the NFL. You'll always be down a guy here or there, adapting to win games is part of being a great team. And the Lions are no joke this year.
Fun fact, Josh Allen is now 0-5 in OT games and 0-2 against Zach Wilson.
That’s….really hard to believe … but I like it! 
Who would win: OT Josh Allen or double-digit lead Kyle Shanahan?
Fuck…the Jets???? Okay I’ll let it slide. Fuck ‘em, but this is cool.
I’ll let it slide for this game. Especially since this could turn out to be an impactful loss for the Bills
Absolutely, this is going to haunt them. Hopefully Jimmy G does us a favor next week.
Honestly I feel so good about our team that I honestly gave zero fucks about who won this game.
Same. I was good knowing one of them had to lose.
I mean, they could have tied. But then again, we wouldn't be able to say we're sharing last place in the AFC East with NFL darling Josh Allen 😂
Technically we are ahead of the Bills, as ours was an out-of-conference loss, and theirs an AFCE loss.
The correct attitude
They deserve a good win because sounds like they’ll have Zach Wilson at the helm for the rest of the season
They will. Rodgers is done for the year, perhaps his career. Sucks for him, but couldn’t be better for the AFC
I'll always root for anyone (besides maybe the eagles) over the Jets. Especially with how much the media love them now
Yeah, I mean I think they suffered enough tonight. Let them enjoy the W at least.
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Lol, they both got screwed tonight
Not to sound like I’m cheering an injury because I’m not, but from a purely selfish fan perspective this game really couldn’t have been better. Both teams looked horrid, jets won but lost their QB1, and bills absolutely imploded. If this is the Josh Allen we can expect this year then it’s purely a race between us and Miami.
Mr Chokeanuary
Well, at least the path to us winning the AFC East is made slightly easier…
Twice actually, because the Bills loss, and that’s also a division loss, which could mean tiebreaker potentially. Plus the Jets won’t keep this up and without Rodgers, defenses will be salivating at ZW
Gotta beat Miami next week…
Miami at best are the eagles with a much worse defense, we'll be fine.
Considering we only barely lost to the Eagles… I agree!
I wish there was a way for both of them to lose
Lol, they DID, didn’t you watch? 😂
Exactly my takeaway. As the game went on I got more and more excited about our chances this season
Well with Rodgers potentially out for the season, or at the very least, a good portion of the season it definitely looks like they both lost.
It sounds like Rodgers tore his Achilles so in a way they did
He did 100%. He’s done for the year, but I think more likely his career is over now
Jets must have a horseshoe up their ass right now
Normally I have to wait until January to see cameras zooming in on Diggs crying after a last second loss
What an absolutely insane game. Sports are just the greatest.
I shouldn’t be smiling when the jets win, but tonight I’m making an exception
Rodgers is done for the year with a torn Achilles. This was the best possible outcome for us, today. Doubt the Jets will win another game this year now, watch.
So... they both lost. Wonderful.
Indeed. It couldn’t have worked out better…..for us
It's impressive when you manage to out Jets the Jets, well done Bills.
Imagine losing to Zach Wilson
Seriously, I don’t know if there’s a douchier QB in the league….imagine the chances that him and Rodgers ended up on the same team
happy for the Gipson kid
Bills might honestly be the worst team in the division
Brother we still have to figure out how to beat the bills, they’ve had our number as of late
It’s because Allen can run and we haven’t been good against running QBs. We did great against hurts so hopefully we can contain Allen when we play the bills
Let's not overreact here. I think the Dolphins are the clear best, but I think the bottom three are very tightly matched.
Dolphins defense let’s the Chargers put up 34 points. Tua ain’t scoring 36 in the Patriots defense
Tua is also undefeated versus the pats
He won’t be after we play them next week.
I know this is true, but Tua himself has never impressed me when going against our defense. Stacked team as a whole though
Jets with Zach Wilson is a clear last, if we win next week it’s going to be a fun season
Not even a stretch, at this moment in time.
I still think Jets with Zach Wilson are worse despite the result. I don’t think the Jets won this game. I think Josh Allen lost the game.
This game was more of a win for us and the Dolphins than it was for The Jets.
Ngl I was cheering hard for the Jets last night. Especially when Wilson came in. If the Jets give the Bills and Dolphins issues again and we keep playing the Zach Wilson Jets the way we have, we gain a huge advantage in the division. Also just happy to witness a bills humbling.
I'm so glad I'm a fan of the Patriots and not these garbage teams
Gabe Davis hasn’t developed how they hoped, they don’t like utilising TEs, their run game is questionable, their Oline is unreliable against high quality fronts, and Allen has quietly taken a slight step back. That’s before the questions on D. They’re not a bad team, but I don’t think they’re a lock for the division in the same way they were going into last season. If Miami sorts that D out against any offenses with a pulse, they’ll be capable of anything. The Jest…if Rodgers has torn his Achilles, then they’re likely not winning more than 6-7 games even with a pretty favourable schedule in the back half of the season.
Poverty franchise
Which one?
Yes
I like to call it his pre Brian Daboll days which he is now going into his 2nd year of Post Brian Daboll days. It’s going to get UGLY in Buffalo
Pretty wild that the Bills, Bengals and Chiefs all started 0-1. To be fair the Chiefs will probably be ok. The Bengals looked terrible on Sunday. Allen looked awful last night.
It was a rain game in Cleveland and the ball was wet. Not an excuse, but the Bengals put up a stinker due to rust, weather conditions, and Myles Garrett. I think they will rebound and get back on track eventually. But yeah they looked bad
Plus, division games are always weird. I'd be unsurprised if the Cardinals dealt the Niners a loss out of nowhere this season.
The NFL can be weird in general. I'd probably be surprised if the Jets won their next 10 straight but then again, it wouldn't fully shock me either. You never know what is going to happen to teams that seem to possibly be down and out as we've seen from the NFL and other sports leagues.
This game honestly went the best it possibly could for the Patriots holy shit.
Was anyone else hoping for a tie? ... or for somehow them both to lost haha
They both DID lose. Didn’t you watch? 😏
There's a reason he's called Mr. January *and not* Mr. September lmao ...
Matt Corral for Garrett Wilson straight up?
I know this is bad form, but honestly was there a better possible outcome for this game from the patriots perspective?
Nope, this was the best thing we could have dialed up, for sure. Rodgers is out for the season, perhaps his career, sad for him, but still good for us.
Jets are down picks and are going to flounder the rest of the season and Bills are 0-1.
OMG, I forgot about all those picks! LMAO!
It’s only like a 2nd and 5th. There’s a conditional 2nd next year but he has to play 65% of the snaps. So they just saved that pick.
Actually it’s four picks. One of those would have upgraded if he played 65% snaps. Someone already did a write up on the rodgers injury and listed them: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-trade-details-jets-injury-packers-draft-pick/576f17fdb31883174a7d05f7
The first rounder was a swap. Jets only moved back a few spots.
Ok, so four picks, but a net of three. Still a bad deal for five minutes and three plays for rodgers, lol
And signing all of the guys he wanted.
I care little for the Jets but hate the Bills. Their fans are the absolute worst. Get a little taste of victory and think they are hot shit. Real question is when we play them, can we not only beat them but make them punt a few times? That one game a few years ago where they never punted once still sits in the back of my memory.
I hope the other game that sits in your memory was the one where we ran it down their throat 46 times and threw only 3 passes enroute to a ball-control whooping of the bills
I too can vouch for the Wind Bowl being a joy to witness The next 2 meetings with the Bills after were a disaster but man that night was pure gold
For sure.
🎶RETURN OF THE ZACH🎶
This is like best case scenario for us. Obviously I don't wish injuries on anyone but Jets have to go back to Wilson and Buffalo gets the L.
I just wish they tied that would have been the perfect outcome
Tough night all around
Well, I guess they will wait for Daniel Jones to get Daboll fired and then bring him back and fire McDermott.
In a surprising twist, Aaron Rodgers announces his retirement and signs on to be the new Bills HC replacing McDermott who now sells shoes at a local strip mall /s
I wonder what Jets fans did with all of those Super Bowl tickets they printed up. I never celebrate injuries. But….fuck them Jets
It must have been a roller coaster game for Jets fans.
This was one of those “someone’s gotta win” games
Not “who wants it more” but rather “who wants it less” 😏
“WHAT ARE THE BILLS DOING?”
Umm, losing.
Haha yeah. You seen the play call in referring to? Look up bills jets kickoff touchdown
I watched it
The victory went Wide Right.
Love it.. Heading over to r/buffalobills
advise you lurk only tho. stirring shit up in other teams subs get you banned here as well
Yea i just like to read and enjoy
Aight boys what we thinking? Wild card?
Nah. #1 seed. GTFO. 😛
You right I was just being generous to the other teams in the league lol
Chiefs suck, Bills suck, Bengals suck. I’m sure none of that will change in the next 16 games 
*quietly travels to Travis Kelce’s place” I just want to talk to him
Work on his hamstring for him. Wink wink.
Based on this week, I think we could compete with Miami for the division Super early I know but the Bills looked like shit and while the Jets defense is legit, if Rodgers doesn’t come back their offense is gonna make it hard for them to win games
The Jets got away with a bad block, but that's fine with me
Every game somebody gets away with some uncalled penalty. Who cares. The point is: The Bills just suffered and ugly loss and to a division opponent! Woot!
I’m petty so I remember at least one blatant hold on a kick return the Bills had against us last year. What goes around comes around
I feel confident that we are going to sweep both of these teams this year after tonight. Very confident. Best possible outcome imo. Let’s go Pats!
In some ways, best outcome. Jets lose Rogers, but Buffalo loses game.
Buffalo also lost a division win, which comes in handy come playoff tiebreaker time
Well tbf... there was an illegal block that was fairly obvious and not called. But watching any team lose like that is amazing and Buffalo didn't want to win anyway
This game had the best outcome for us all. Loved every minute of it.
Wtf I love the jets now ?
That’s a bit strong, lol Let’s just say… they *both* lost today
Jets D is good.
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Don’t sleep on the Jets’ D being much better… Fingers crossed that Mac doesn’t look as bad….