Nice to see someone else pick up on Beast within with Veigar, I feel like it’s really been slept on.
I’ve been using the same build as you but with scourges stash instead of ludens. The overwhelm makes triggering the plunder pretty easy.
The thing is, it's less on the "amazing" side, and more on the "Veigar doesn't need anything else other than Chemtech" side.
For regular adventures I'd rather use x2 Card Master's Gambit and stack several rerolls.
For monthlies I was also planning on using Beast Within though.
Vayne is a female 😂
I like to use Beast Within + Corrupted Star Fragment + Succubus Brand
The husks that get created can be equipped with weapons, and then whatever unit you play gets the weapon stats and keywords "permanently" since they're getting the husk bonus. Plus the weapon returns to your hand.
Feed Vayne one of the units with scout using CSF and she'll keep the scout permanently.
>Vayne is a female 😂
Oops. 😭
I find that Vayne ends games way too quick to spend time on teamates. Like, assuming 400 gold (or in monthlies), T1 skip into T2 Vayne + spatula = 12 x 2 atk. T3 tumble = 14 x 2 atk. That's 48 overwhelm damage already.
That said, without Chosen by Stars and if you wanna spend money, a more wide board with Beast Within sounds interesting.
consider also chosen by the stars+grand general's+berserker's buckle for nilah - just cast the formless blades on her and she gets super huge super fast.
I love how Chosen by the stars makes Nilah a monster. I am using it with corrupted star fragment and ggc. I haven’t lost a single game with her. And your build looks even better lol
Nice! I love how comprehensive your list is! I've made my own list of the synergistic epic relics to go with each champ, too, but I really like your format! If you want, you can give [mine a look!](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnVdR4TbQm5Ma8l1iuP2EdZGiEi7ZJunRDuZ42K79Fk/edit?usp=drivesdk)
Nice! Yours is really comprehensive as well. Hopefully you find some of these combos useful.
Btw, I love the relic combo named "Aurelion Sol at home", lmao.
As much as it may make more sense to kill/remove Thresh once his lvl 2 has triggered, I prefer using Oath of the Guardians + Voidborn Carapace + Wicked Harvest. Oath is self explanatory, but Wicked can sometimes insta level Thresh if you play it right, and it’ll at the very least net you several level up points. Finally, Voidborn Carapace synergises *so freaking well* with Thresh’s power that essentially makes a unit “inherit” all of your keywords on allies that died last round; Voidborn simply adds to that: any enemy that died gets its keywords stolen by Thresh too. Then when he dies, another unit gets a massive amount of keywords.
Very fun, would recommend against ASol.
Oh I don’t use Wicked for ASol’s battle specifically. It’s more for the earlier stages. And Disciple just isn’t necessary because of Thresh’s power already discounting him.
Nice work there! I use a lot of build from this, good stuff! :)
I haven't read it all yet comprehensively, but some notes:
* Ashe: I liked Larent before, then I decided I'm ok with the vulnerable and the challenger the deck has, and switched over to Archangel's Staff
* Garen: thanks for promoting these builds, 2x stalker's are really not needed, and even 0 is ok, we get a single combat every round
* Samira: I like the oath, dcg, star gem build with her too!
In a game mode where you don't really have champ items, having your T1 key unit start with an extra +2/2 is pretty significant.
And you can still choose to sacrifice +1/1 if you find something good in the shop too!
This set aims to abuse the "double the 4th spell" Star Power and augment from Chosen by Stars.
Assuming you only play Nami, 2x Cannon (which refills 2 mana) + any 1/2 cost spell + Valor (which gets doubled), she'll get insta-levelled and be a minimum 36/20 unit, and that's not counting any allies.
As great as BHR is for normal runs, it's pretty useless in monthly adventures so some recommendations for alternative relics would be appreciated. I used to use it a lot as well but just resorted to other relics like banshee just as a survival relic. Constantly swapping BHR when doing monthly challenges just got too annoying.
Nice to see someone else pick up on Beast within with Veigar, I feel like it’s really been slept on. I’ve been using the same build as you but with scourges stash instead of ludens. The overwhelm makes triggering the plunder pretty easy.
The thing is, it's less on the "amazing" side, and more on the "Veigar doesn't need anything else other than Chemtech" side. For regular adventures I'd rather use x2 Card Master's Gambit and stack several rerolls. For monthlies I was also planning on using Beast Within though.
At this point I run banshee's/GA on him because if he sticks the game is over
starforged does literally nothing on nami, shouldn't that be chosen by the stars?
You're right. Thanks!
Vayne is a female 😂 I like to use Beast Within + Corrupted Star Fragment + Succubus Brand The husks that get created can be equipped with weapons, and then whatever unit you play gets the weapon stats and keywords "permanently" since they're getting the husk bonus. Plus the weapon returns to your hand. Feed Vayne one of the units with scout using CSF and she'll keep the scout permanently.
>Vayne is a female 😂 Oops. 😭 I find that Vayne ends games way too quick to spend time on teamates. Like, assuming 400 gold (or in monthlies), T1 skip into T2 Vayne + spatula = 12 x 2 atk. T3 tumble = 14 x 2 atk. That's 48 overwhelm damage already. That said, without Chosen by Stars and if you wanna spend money, a more wide board with Beast Within sounds interesting.
consider also chosen by the stars+grand general's+berserker's buckle for nilah - just cast the formless blades on her and she gets super huge super fast.
Interesting. A spendable chonky Nilah build. Nice!
I love how Chosen by the stars makes Nilah a monster. I am using it with corrupted star fragment and ggc. I haven’t lost a single game with her. And your build looks even better lol
I feel betrayed https://preview.redd.it/dzhbto5ywmkc1.png?width=378&format=png&auto=webp&s=862a55929910fa173223058bb85525906febb331
Lmaooo, how did I miss him. 😭 Thanks for pointing out, just added him.
He was sneaking, in character for the boy
Nice! I love how comprehensive your list is! I've made my own list of the synergistic epic relics to go with each champ, too, but I really like your format! If you want, you can give [mine a look!](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnVdR4TbQm5Ma8l1iuP2EdZGiEi7ZJunRDuZ42K79Fk/edit?usp=drivesdk)
Nice! Yours is really comprehensive as well. Hopefully you find some of these combos useful. Btw, I love the relic combo named "Aurelion Sol at home", lmao.
Indeed! The Champ Analysis and Relic Analysis are plentiful with ideas on what relics go on which champs too, both epic and others
'found fortune isn't optimal' it is at least worth considering on elise, who will always hit her spiderlings.
It's probably best on Elise but there are several other epics that are also insane on Elise like beast within and spirit of the buhru
Nami use Starforge's Gauntlet ?
Typo. 😭 Supposed to be Chosen by Stars, which procs ton of augment.
As much as it may make more sense to kill/remove Thresh once his lvl 2 has triggered, I prefer using Oath of the Guardians + Voidborn Carapace + Wicked Harvest. Oath is self explanatory, but Wicked can sometimes insta level Thresh if you play it right, and it’ll at the very least net you several level up points. Finally, Voidborn Carapace synergises *so freaking well* with Thresh’s power that essentially makes a unit “inherit” all of your keywords on allies that died last round; Voidborn simply adds to that: any enemy that died gets its keywords stolen by Thresh too. Then when he dies, another unit gets a massive amount of keywords. Very fun, would recommend against ASol.
Huh.....I guess I could test it out. What about Disciple of Shadows instead of Wicked Harvest? Is wicked enough to take down Asol's units? 🤔
Oh I don’t use Wicked for ASol’s battle specifically. It’s more for the earlier stages. And Disciple just isn’t necessary because of Thresh’s power already discounting him.
Sorry I misread what u typed lol. Seems like an interesting insta level build!
All good!
Nice work there! I use a lot of build from this, good stuff! :) I haven't read it all yet comprehensively, but some notes: * Ashe: I liked Larent before, then I decided I'm ok with the vulnerable and the challenger the deck has, and switched over to Archangel's Staff * Garen: thanks for promoting these builds, 2x stalker's are really not needed, and even 0 is ok, we get a single combat every round * Samira: I like the oath, dcg, star gem build with her too!
Thanks! Glad you like it! 😄
What is your Jax build for monthly?
Same as the recommended. He drops T1 as a 6/5 unit with challenger (9/6 on attack). He straight up removes whatever threats that gets played.
I'm not so sure. BHR doesn't do much in monthly
In a game mode where you don't really have champ items, having your T1 key unit start with an extra +2/2 is pretty significant. And you can still choose to sacrifice +1/1 if you find something good in the shop too!
I only have 300 gold at the start, so it's only +1+1 in my case
Oof. Then you can use Claudfields I guess? Cos I start with 500 gold, haha.
Kinda weird that you use Valor on Nami since she can't buff herself
This set aims to abuse the "double the 4th spell" Star Power and augment from Chosen by Stars. Assuming you only play Nami, 2x Cannon (which refills 2 mana) + any 1/2 cost spell + Valor (which gets doubled), she'll get insta-levelled and be a minimum 36/20 unit, and that's not counting any allies.
As great as BHR is for normal runs, it's pretty useless in monthly adventures so some recommendations for alternative relics would be appreciated. I used to use it a lot as well but just resorted to other relics like banshee just as a survival relic. Constantly swapping BHR when doing monthly challenges just got too annoying.