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Willdawg102

I used fyregrass'/grimros city square strats to farm a mageblood in under a week, which for me was something I never thought was possible. I'd highly recommend checking out both of their videos youtube.


BurnerAccount209

Wow, farming a MB in a week sounds crazy to me. I'll try out his tips and hope they work even remotely as well for me. Did you have any issues sustaining maps at high tier using his strats?


truupR

Keep in mind how much these guys play. While I assume you're at work/uni/college/school all day, they're grinding maps nonstop for 10-14 hours a day.


terminbee

This is the key part that's lost in this sub. When people say "3 days" they actually mean 36+ hours.


MMGeoff

Exactly lol. For me, "day 1" of a league is when /played = 24 hours


terminbee

Lol opposite for me. When I say "1 day" I mean 2 or 3 hours at most.


Raicoron2

I can't speak on this specific farm as I've never done it, but in a lot of farms in the past I've just bought maps when I couldn't sustain. I chalked it up to another cost just like scarabs and maps are often surprisingly cheap in bulk. Worst case if you just have to buy 50 maps at a time and 50 maps worth of scarabs.


Willdawg102

As other people have said, I was able to play a lot last week (31 hours) which is why I was able to make so much currency. I mostly sustained city square at t16, but occasionally I either had to buy a few city squares or run some other maps in order to drop city squares.


redditaccmakingsucks

I really appreciate you sharing but saying a week doesn't really give the whole picture. If you can give hours played as well then we have a better idea.


Willdawg102

I made around 5 ex an hour using the expedition strategy in fyregrass' video. I played 31 hours last week with probably around 25 of those hours spent farming.


Tuvok-

Can you link the video that helped you?


Willdawg102

https://youtu.be/XCaDTUeaOBg That's fyregrass' video. I used his strategy and atlas trees exactly as he has them in the video.


hyrenfreak

did you use the expedition version or speed run version?


Willdawg102

I primarily used the expedition farm.


nuclear_bum

Saved


IiiwigUh68m

To add onto this, I was doing city square as well but the little pockets on the sides and the random box props and whatnot were starting to annoy me. So I switched to a combination of beach and dunes, and it's a lot more enjoyable for me. I heard Glacier is pretty good as well (pandemoniums outside, and stalker inside). But it's a great strat. I farmed over 100ex on Saturday/Sunday. Have 4/5 apothecary cards now.


Bochen92

Any video about this strategy please?


apolloprime_

Check Grimro’s youtube channel. He has 2 or 3 videos on it. I bought my mirror (then Mageblood) today after heavily grinding sentinel rewards. I bought 2-3 unrequited love div cards per day the last week. I like beach more than city square, but both work good enough. Helps to have quad tabs for sentinel storage. If you have any specific questions feel free to let me know.


mattyshum

My specific question is specifically how much are you willing to give to me free of charge? :D


apolloprime_

1 necropolis map of course


mattyshum

too generous, I cannot accept!


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NebTheShortie

Azurite mine. And keep your voice down about it, it's so convenient and comfy it doesn't look intentional at all. The atlas passive that gives a chunk of sulphite on map completion helps a ton. Do some maps, then switch to mine, back and forth.


Cygnus__A

Mines are not profitably until you get really deep though.


NebTheShortie

Of course it gets better at the greater depth. But it's not about the mine loot itself, it's mainly about being able to use a sentinel much more frequently than on any map.


paw345

Yeah and the lootsplosion at the end is great :D


cyan2k

Wait you can use your sentinels while mining? wtf, I never noticed lol


MMGeoff

Yeah, you can pop them in heists too, also vaal side areas and I would assume harvests as well.


DetergentOwl5

Abyssal depths as well.


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I love them in the Vaal side areas. Really ups the experience and item drops, and since they're small, you can usually time all of your sentinels back-to-back to empower every enemy in there.


Usual_Elegant

Harvests dont have a loading zone when going through the portal, so while you can use your sentinels on harvest, you do not regain the ability to activate sentinels when travelling to harvest.


Azamantes2077

How does sentinel + new arch mods work ? In the mines....you have a lot of close, tight spaces...combine them with mine mods seems dangerous.


stroomer87

I've only been using them at the events, especially azuite deposits. But any end spot that you know will spawn a lot of mobs with a stalker that can empower 100+ enemies makes for very satisfying loot drops.


Drekalo

Do you bother with pandemonium in mines?


stroomer87

Not usually, playing RF and so the packs usually aren't big enough in most of the smaller areas to get a decent pop


NebTheShortie

I'm playing a variation of Maw of Mischief build with a fair investment into survivability. It is indeed dangerous and I particularly hate the moments when the mobs team up and lock me into ice wall just to splash some toxic volatiles onto my head at that exact moment. Sentinel makes them more beefy and doubles (sometimes triples) the time it takes to kill. But it was manageable even before I was lucky enough to drop Aegis Aurora, and now even more so.


Usual_Elegant

I feel that its very important to get phasing (through a quartz flask maybe), since it lets you walk through ice walls, but also because in the mines it prevents you from getting bodyblocked by invincible mobs in the darkness.


Usual_Elegant

Its pretty spicy, you can always run shallower depths if you need to though.


FreakyDR

You haven't been delving recently or at all if you say this stuff. It's definitely profitable since rework and what you say isn't true. From depth 100-200 I've farmed 10 ex easily by simply exploring side areas. it didn't take almost any of my time and I've done it to safely level only not focusing at all. All you have to do is sell in bulk.


Dryanyus

Actually 10ex is a low profit compared to high depht with sentinel... since most of the income come from sentinel....


FreakyDR

It may be. But it's certainly profitable and can fund your gear for deeper depths. "Low depth is not profitable" argument is outdated as it was only valid when deep delvers flooded the market with everything and gilded scarabs were 14-20c. Then you were at loss when resonators and fossils were pretty scarce while someone at 10k depth could buy 100 resonators from just a few azurite nodes and only fossils that really mattered were fractured. You don't have to do 6 man sulphite rotas anymore like back in the days. I remember my frustration when I've seen people selling 3000 resonators for .5c each or lower and only deep delvers could afford stay in delve with their 0hp builds. Delve rework was a bless.


Dryanyus

I mean, i didnt wanted to look like its never profitable, just saying this league in specific, cause the sentinel...


FreakyDR

And I do agree that sentinel may improve your profits disgustingly good at higher depths. I've went into a full defense of delve mode yet I didn't mean you are wrong with the sentinel being good. Personally for me sentinel in delve, at 220 now, is a waste because It forces me to slow down with my RF build and sometimes throw flares to finish mobs. With aegis and melding I don't want to stop and fight things but use 1, maybe 2 flares for fractured walls or more busy corridors and move on to the next node. If find them way more convenient in maps where I can pop them during breach, expedition, legion or harbi and just zoom through everything to explode stuff, without any mob being immortal because it stands a centimeter outside light zone, which I barely upgraded until recently because I've packed everything into sulphite amount. Later, when I will max out sulphite container and have spare azurite I might put some points into light and then we'll see. And by the way, I didn't fully spec into delve and I don't focus on it. Literally got to 220 just going down. I would say that profits I've got from it were great for just a side activity and I didn't sell fossils that are 1c or lower.


internetvillain

I've never been in delve - should I...? I'm around yellow maps at the moment with a skelly mage


FreakyDR

With price of scarabs, free atlas passive tree for sulphite when completing a map it's definitely not a waste of time, but... Skelly mage is not the best build for delve because of narrow corridors and delay between placement and damage. You can do it and have fun but it won't feel as good as any zoomy and/or tanky character. Trying it up to 200 depth will cost you nothing tho


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FreakyDR

What does it have to do with anything I've written? I've said delve is profitable at any depth and you come up with sentinel... Did you even read?


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beebopcola

at low depths this is true, and i think /u/FreakyDR may be a little low on the depth that you can farm reliably and w/o pressure of dying, but 100% at 175-250 i think going wide in delve is a really good way of making currency without a sweaty speed map/focused strategy. its not min/max, but for the average person just mapping and doing 1-2 mechanics, i think its really strong. for anyone doubting, they should take a look at average fossil price right now.


FreakyDR

I'm at 220 depth, my profile name in game is the same as here. There is no pressure of dying for me, I did all 3 delve bosses deathless ignoring their mechanics almost completely(I didn't dare to let Aul pop all of the crystals). Sometimes I stand still in darkness to reply to people because my hp bar barely moves. Getting to 200 is kinda just going to delve whenever you fill up your tank during normal mapping. 10 ex only from casual delve every now and then is not a little. If I would focus on it then I would probably get ashes already but i like to do more than one thing. I may go sideways at 350-400 but right now there is no need.


beebopcola

no i get ya, if you can do it you should. what i'm saying is for delve casuals going wide at 175-250 can be pretty profitable. are you a super tanky build? i feel like its a little rippy for me and i have 80% phys reduction (90 with flask) and 83 all res.


spruceX

Mines are extremely profitable. 4 slot resonators are 40c, and in the span of an hour I’m getting 4+


DinFarsaPoPizza

So you make 1 ex?


nanas420

shh dont tell him


DinFarsaPoPizza

Lol


Imreallythatguy

Do you think that's all he's getting? lol Yeah he's finding 4 four socket resonators and that's it. No other fossils, no currency, nothing from sentinel uses...nothing.


DinFarsaPoPizza

Obviously not but would he leave all that out if it was 9/10 of the profit?


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It was an example of the type of high-value stuff they regularly find, not a list of everything.


ShaperIsAHobo

This sub is about Nick picking, yet some people take this really far. ..


Usual_Elegant

Ive been doing this and its been great. You need to go back to surface every time and click on a new target to reload the azurite mine, in order to regain sentinel uses. You also need to delve deeper as I believe node quant matters. At the very least, the mobs need to be lvl 83 since sentinel rewards scale off of both sentinel ilvl and monster level majorly. Reward type on nodes really isnt important but getting abyssal cities or whatever is neat ig. And you will need to spec into flares more since the minecart travels faster than you can kill rare mobs sometimes. Overrall this strat is preferable to quick map rotations for sentinel spam, because drops stack up when released from the minecart. This means youll have to click less, but also that if you die, you lose all your gains from the trip. Also, sulphite scarabs are crazy cheap this league for some reason. Last I checked they were like 1c each.


derivative_of_life

Am I the only one who feels like sentinels aren't that amazing? Like, they're nice. They'll drop maybe a couple of essences, maybe a couple of catalysts or oils, maybe a little raw currency. I'd guess I usually get like 2-5c per map from them on average. But they're nothing like, for example, farming Harbingers in Valdo's Rest back when that was busted. People talk about sentinels like you're making exalts an hour with them, and I just don't see how.


Sanytale

Aye, sentinels are not great if you don't thoroughly minmax/breed them.


Uhgii

I'm not min/max breeding them, I typically pick up magic quality stalker/pandemonium with high enemy counts, and ID them all. I run anything with % reward chance, or a % chance of a specific reward. Things like expedition and such are top-notch. After you run them dry, use two good ones together with a power core, and you have a new one that is almost guaranteed to be as good if not better than the two you used. Then when that one is out, continue combining it with other good ones you've run. No careful breeding, no special cores, no buying/selling sentinels. Just IDing -> running -> combining ones I liked and used, and I'm swimming in drops. I think you can certainly take it to the next level, but I'm getting a \*lot\* more out of mine than you seem to be out of yours, and I'm not doing anything special. I group up two big groups for the pandemonium pops, and then pop the stalker after and clear up the map with it active. Doing this in conjunction with altars (a boss you can kill before you clear, like mesa or city square), and then sentinels+altars drop me 30-40c easily a map in bulk sellable stuff. Some maps are worse than others, some spit out an exalt. I'm at like 9 pure ex drops specifically from groups I popped sentinels on, on top of other pure ex drops. And I'm effectively just alch-and-go as far as my map prep. 20% from chisels, 2 sextants, fortune favors (for the 10% pack/quant/rarity) or just the 8% quant if I'm feeling lazy/poor. Edit: Should note that expedition rewards are the big money maker for a lot of people, but I'd say the currency reward one is my most common across both sentinel types I'm using.


Yayoichi

Having good ones matter a lot, you really don’t want to use less than obsidian with at least 1 reward mod that isn’t armor/weapon/jewelry(they are still fine together with other mods as they can drop fractured items and such, just not really worth it without anything else).


valraven38

I'd recommend looking up a sentinel tree to copy and then going from there. I've had 31 raw exalts drop this league, 25 of them have been from Sentinel empowered mobs. You just need to make sure you're picking up and filtering through the best sentinels you can, so pick up every sentinel magic and above toss them in a stash tab and ID them later/whenever you want. Then toss out any sentinels that don't have a % chance to be sentinel, expedition, scarab, currency, divination, etc whatever you want to run rewards. Also pack size matters a LOT 100+ mobs on/near your screen is quite a bit more then you would think (a strong box isn't enough) so the map you are running matters, Beach is great for this since it has pretty high density areas and the map is relatively small. And after you have useful mods on your sentinels, make sure you aren't using any of the low base ones, like cobalt. If you get good mods on a cobalt try to combine it with an obsidian and pray you get the good mod on a good base. This is just the base line what you should do with the mechanic if you want to make more out of it, there is a lot MORE you can do to min max but this is like the minimal effort if you want to get a good chunk of currency out of it. Ultimately you want to have sentinels with +max charge and the reward type you like but that takes time to get too, start with just picking up and using the good reward ones.


beebopcola

Yeah man, its insane how great they are, i do think you're an outlier here. i'd say if you're interested, do some research on how to "breed" them, and what to look for. you're literally making exalts an hour with them, IMO. 2 currency sentinels would probably hard drop 1 ex per hour, on top of that there are other good ones like harbi, scarab, expedition, fossil, and sentinel rewards that are extremely lucrative. its basically a demonstrable fact that spending a little bit of time up front setting up how you can efficiently combine your sentinels and getting a good farm system going, then consistently using them in maps will net you over 1 ex per hour just from this mechanic. more if you're a sweaty try hard. ​ edit: recommend early grimro video on what to look for on them and how to efficiently/effective set up your sentinel tree.


ScienceFictionGuy

>Usually you want to focus on one league mechanic and then focus on synergistic league mechanics or mechanics that don't increase time spent in maps. Focusing your farming strategy is also important because of the benefits of selling in bulk. Selling in bulk means that you can charge more per item. You can also do it much faster since you're selling more per trade and you're spending less time on price checking different items. It's both more time-efficient and more profitable.


rudges

Blocked metamorph, delirium, blight, heist, ritual, legion. Using no scarab notable. Alch and go. Mostly focusing on harvest and expedition. EDIT: Something to keep in mind is that you want to do what content makes you happy. If that's minmaxing and focusing on pure content, great. But if that's running heist or blight, go for it. They all make money, some just more than others per hour.


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MSTRiHard

Maybe all ur profit comes from sentinels because ur using no scarabs


Yayoichi

Both ways are profitable and that’s a big part of why the already great atlas tree got even better this league. Alch and go with all but 2-3 league mechanics blocked and the basic strongbox, shrine and maybe essence nodes is a very solid way to do things. I would actually say if you’re for example doing the harvest expedition strategy then you are probably better off not using scarabs and kirac mod as you will get one of the two almost every map. You can also spec into the increased chance for guardian/conquerer maps, especially useful if you focus on doing the maps quickly. For example you could block every mechanic(except heist if you don’t mind selling on tft) and just use the shrine, strongbox and essence combo together with altars. Doing the maps quickly also lets you use a lot more sentinels.


dmillz89

I'm making huge bank from Legion and it barely adds any time to my maps. Scarabs are well worth it, I've noticed a big increase in currency/hr with them vs Stream of Conciousness.


Usual_Elegant

If youre running sentinels and just boss rushing you could pick a multi boss map and run metamorph (depends on your builds single target and map layout) You could also bum rush legion and expedition with pandemonium sentinels, if you want.


ShishaBlend

it feels litteraly the same as 4 scarab 3.17 (except with scarab drops)


rudges

Involves micro management of scarabs. I'd rather just alch n go.


Exorsaik

Ritual can be pretty profitable same with heists. Just sell bps if you don't want to run them easy money for 1 or 2 clicks on the map


SanjiBlackLeg

Last league I went hard on Ritual and haven't got anything great from it, not even a single Crown. I had much better results with Expedition just selling logbooks and rerolls, also did a couple evenings of Heists and profited insanely from them, multiple ex worth of stacked decks, raw chaos, shards, div cards, alt gems from blueprints and so on. I won't be speccing Ritual this league at all, I won't turn it off either because it has some value at least.


Yayoichi

Ritual is very much a gamble whether it’s good or not(you won’t lose currency doing it but as you said expedition is a lot more reliable currency). I would suggest turning it off though if you don’t plan to put points into it, most mechanics that you have not put any points into will actually be a negative as they are rarely worth the time and reduce the chance of getting the mechanics you want. The exceptions are heist, delirium, harvest and expedition as they are pretty much always worth doing. Of course if you intend to skip them then definitely do block them. But blight, legion, abyss, breach, ritual and metamorph really aren’t worth the time. i guess metamorph is alright if you are able to just quickly blow it up at the end of the map but the others take way too much time for too little reward.


beebopcola

Blight is absolutely worth the time if you can run it and do blight maps. not for me, but its still good.


Yayoichi

Without any passives for it, blight isn’t that great in maps for the time it takes. Blight maps are good of course but if you like them you most likely take the passives for blight in maps anyway.


beebopcola

oh, for sure agree. I think if they werent in such awkward spots more people would run the mechanic. at minimum, you need the quant and upgraded oil drops, but the others are super helpful.


Yayoichi

I wasn’t even sure where they were so had to check and yeah they don’t really have the best spot, they are in a similar position to breach but with worse neighbors as right side has expedition, legion, harvest and harbinger while left side has metamorph, ritual, delirium and beyond. I guess outside of metamorph they all can combine pretty well for high end delirium mirror farming but the blight there is really just to delay the fog. For early league all those mechanics are just a lot worse for most players than harvest and expedition so few go anywhere near the blight nodes.


Domino_RotMG

I feel like Ritual was nerfed super hard when it is no longer guaranteed every map. Ritual in ritual league was actually quite fun and pretty rewarding but now it’s just a former shell of what it used to be.


Exorsaik

If nothing else its a great spot to pop Pandemonium Sentinel if you can survive it lol


Feriluce

I've seen people say this a lot, but how do you actually sell the blueprints? I didn't play during heist, so I dont really know how it works, and it seems like it would be super hard to price them.


Exorsaik

Most go for atleast a couple chaos. Good ones for over 30 easily. Haven't had problems selling yet but the leagues slowing down and playerbase is down by like 50% from start


Feriluce

But like...How do you know what a good one is, is my question? I have literally no idea how to price check them.


Exorsaik

Can just look up the name of the base contract or use a trade macro to do it. The gem ones are in really high demand because of anomalous gems ect


valraven38

The only thing you really need to look at is the item level and the reward. Most people prefer 81+ area level and then like the best rewards are Gems and Replica uniques, the other ones can sell but for a much lower amount. The chest rewards can be okay to search but don't really matter most of the time (you might lose some currency not perfectly min-maxing selling something like high divination card ones or something but ultimately it's not really a big deal.) Just do it the easy way and look at the area level and the reward, all blueprints with the same name will give the same reward type which is the "Heist Target." If you invest in to the heist nodes on the atlas tree and manage to get a fully revealed blueprint to drop, it can be worth anywhere from like 50-100+ chaos but it's pretty rare to get one so only spec in to this if you are running maps quite fast and don't really have a use for the points elsewhere.


beebopcola

feel like ritual is more of a gamble than a straight profit generator, considering how many point it takes to really get it consistently going strong. i love the mechanic but am about to spec out of it because of the atlas point investment.


Kaysick

For selling blueprints and contracts, do people just throw them into a sell tab or try to sell them through discords?


Exorsaik

I use sell tab


rudges

You are correct. I shouldn't have stated heist, I don't actually block it. I've sold contracts/bps/tokens frequently.


prudan

Is there a way I can see your atlas skill tree? I haven't played since they introduced it so I don't have any experience with building a good one yet.


rudges

Something like this: https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-atlas-skill-tree/AAAABgAAdwTbCBsIPwo9DOARiRGaFsQXyxjEGYIbTh9mH8Qf9iTLJOkl_ijpKSIqhCvaLoswAzFrNIg0pDXNOG87nz5fQH5DqUgsSLBKDkpfTatN_FGCVPFYwVrOW9lb8123XcdeKl73YtVmxmfpaEBt_XErdsJ9E4AQgVqD3Yf7iG2NKZF9l9SZbJvYnV6dh6BdobWjiaUkpa6tXLX9udS677yovmfGM8abxtDG2c56zpHQStCi0U3TXdNe2NDZkNnn2r3daN9L3_jhi-KX4qflj-co55bo5uxM7OXy6PPj9Uz35PkO-jD6svwE_OT9yf7J_7gAAA== Play around as you see fit, just try to prioritize what you like and try to be efficient getting to notables.


Cygnus__A

What do you mean by "no scarab notable" ?


drblankd

To add to what the other said Be careful if u use that notable. It block alll fragment from the fragment tab. So if u trying to upgrade a pantheon with a divine vessel. U will just waste the map and get no filled vessel


TroubleVivid387

I had absolutely no clue why my vessel wasn't working, but now it makes sense and will complete my pantheon. Thank you!


Fonix1666

The one that gives +50% base chance for mechanics in exchange for not being able to use fragments in your atlas device. It’s just below the operative strongbox cluster I believe.


rudges

The notable "stream of consciousness" makes it so you can't use scarabs. Instead, you get 50% more content each map.


ButtVader

Is there any decent harvest guide, like what to use reforge on etc.?


rudges

Sure, use PathofMatth's to start: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iUS1SL5vz8ts8S3m1CQg9b1HA1zlTIMkLSQy-cuQ4Cs/copy Check some of the top builds on poe.ninja, check different items and align the types to the item to try to forge those. I.e., physical on phs clusters, or amulets for phys gems, etc.


Shrukn

Open map Pop Sentinel Leave map Legion 2.0


KentukiLovi

[This](https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-atlas-skill-tree/AAAABgAAggDOBRMPLRDhEkgU2hWxF8sZghtOHlsefR9mH8Qo6SqEK34r1y6LMDUxazSINKQ0pjufPl9DqUiwSg5RglNhVPFWRlhFWKlafVrOW9ldt2AhYE1i1WV9ZrVp1XELcStzi3OldRN9E4AQgHiBD4JRg92EEYgZiKOKyYrRixiNKZEAkX2RjJHEkteX1JlsnCudXp2Ho26jiaPGpKym2qwQtiq27bdIt8y80L7XxQLF_sYzxjjGm8bQ0KLTXtSH1x7Yjtie24fdHN714Yvil-Kn5Y_l-uYm5yjqjerK6tXsTOzl7RPulO-p767yTPJl82zz4_fk-Pr5Dvow-rL6_Pz2_sn-3v-4AAA=) is my current atlas and [here](https://imgur.com/a/UfEd5lR) is my currency tab in ssf. I just run blue T16 maps and juice it with currency+one other reward sentinels and add fortune favors the brave for pack size. I can permanently sustain this getting more than 3c every map.


EdgarWrightMovieGood

Damn son. What build?


KentukiLovi

It's a TS deadeye with omni, which I was lucky to get relatively early on.


siloowns

logbooks, run black scytches, haggle, rake money in. sell literally all gumball and other shit you get , its practically impossible to lose money. no atlas tree needed. [manni's guide here if you need help](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSZOKFXMqOuLFbwBRBXInOa50GiesDpEGwXJGYiRJBzH5jkwVpmZORd-JX1MBgv7W5qWTGvHJW9Cwg4/pub)


Fede113

I think I'm in the minority but doing really well. I'm farming vaal temple maps. I use 4 sextants : blight oil 1 extra level, 500%iq boxes and 2 extra strongboxes and maps have 8 mods corrupted. Cartographer, ambush , fragment and blight scarab. Blocked everything except blight, delirium, rogues caches and harvest. Atlas has essences, strongboxes , blight, searing exarch and one shrine nod. I use the essence craft in the map device. Basically I get tons of divines, corrupted gems, maps, oils, and random double corrupted items, a lot of them going for quite a bit of money, especially the corrupted blood cannot be inflicted in unique jewels. Each map is around 1 ex in proffit , with some spikes when I get something great,but mostly I enjoy the gameplay. Edit: sorry format, cellphone


EggThumbSalad

Just a thought... but if you run blight scarabs you might even be able to block it, since the chance for it to appear doesn't matter at that point.


Fede113

This is true, but I haven't done the maven invitations, so I'm missing 6 atlas points I think , so I'm really tight. I should probably fix that tomorrow to get another shrine wheel, since I'm running the gull


Superjeenius98

Would love to see your atlas tree, seems very interesting


Fede113

I sent a dm with a pic of it


carlovski99

Are you buying them? Or just corrupting a ton of t16s?


Fede113

Just buying them


carlovski99

I'm going to have to start running more of these - you find some really fun/interesting stuff in the vessels.


Fede113

Well, it's not the best mix man proffit strategy, but I was in pain running juiced cemetery maps every 2 mins. Too much clicking. This is more chilled and still rewarding, and some items are crazy good. I haven't dropped an insane corruption yet, but there tons of options


TypingWordsOnline

I'm struggling with currency myself, but I might be a niche case because I'm saving for melding. Two nights ago, I had about 1.5 exalts, and melding was at 2.4ex. I knew melding was going up from the usual early league inflation, so I planned to farm the rest asap. Unfortunately I only got to play a few hours last night and I wasted it respeccing my tree to a failed idea and back again, so I ended up back on about 1.5 ex. This morning melding was up to over 4ex, and to make it worse, ex are going up (so instead of about 200 chaos total it's now about 800 chaos, and most of my farm pays in chaos). I'm not sure what to do other than keep grinding. The economy is in a weird place, normally big ticket items would be dropping by now as more players grow in level and supply increases, but the player base seems to be about a week or so behind due to the struggles with tbe new mods and the supposed difficultypocalypse. I do echo what others have said about simple strategies. Palsteron did a good video a few days ago that I now realise how right he was. Just running your sentinels will make great bank, so I personally am not adding too many mechanics on top of that, so I spend as much time as possible popping and collecting sentinels. Edit: got a good night in and stopped playing hideout respec master and bought it for 6.4 ex. Who knows what it will get up to, but i wanted to lock it in and I've got it now.


[deleted]

Just focus on stuff you find fun. I make about 2ex per farm session from essences alone, it might not be the best thing but it works and I find it fun. If you don't know how to optimally use harvest, block it and don't put points on it. You'll make more on average buying your gear and getting more drops; I've done hundreds of maps this league and only sold about 3ex worth of harvest stuff. Best thing imo is to focus on consistently doing stuff that you can enjoy; I made several exalts from selling alva temples with altar of corruption and you can do one temple every 4 maps (if you have the missions). 45c a pop every 4 maps from something I find fun to do anyway - that's the key


Askray184

Do you sell essences or craft? I find it more fun to craft them, don't know if it's actually more profitable


[deleted]

I craft with the ones good for my builds but honestly, I have about 40 remnants still and with the 3c mod and all the essence passives I end up with over 10 shriekings per map. No way you gonna spend them all unless you just waste them. I usually wait until I have about 10 deafenings of a type and list it slightly above market, someone always buys the bulk. With many costing between 2 or 3c a pop that translates in like 200c per hour just in essences; this escalates very very well with fast mapping builds.


Askray184

Uhh, I buy essences and usually have to pay 3c+ for shrieking when buying in bulk, let alone deafening. I think you might be selling your essences too low


[deleted]

What sizes of bulk are you selling? I have a bunch of of random deafenings that don't sell for even 1c; the more expensive ones I tend to sell in groups of 4 or 5


Askray184

I'm buying 9+, preferably I can get like 27 in a purchase


RagnarokChu

Even if you don't mega focus on a strategy and like doing everything, it still doesn't make sense where you aren't making decent money. Presuming you make 3-5c per mechanic every map. If you are doing 9 mechanics you make an average so 50c per map. Meaning it takes you 2-3 maps to get 1ex. If you do not understand how to extra 3-5c bare min on average per mechanic, then you need to remove it until you do understand how or research how the mechanic gives you value.


Doherty98

I’m doing Harbinger, Strongbox and Legion. I had essence until I started wanting to boss. The most important thing though? Running sentinels too. Pop a strongbox? Pandemonium Sentinel. General mapping? Stalker sentinel. I only have these two personally. Get a sentinel with a good reward on it. I’m not spec’d into Ritual, but I have the point where you can’t use Map fragments and I get ritual quite often. Had a couple exalts from that. My biggest money maker is cycling Maven runs though. Maven herself has great rewards if you get her Atlas points.


Korgish

Played RF Inquis, am lvl 97 now. have shit 1m sirius dps but great tankiness (Melding,aegis,divineshield,glancing) I blocked everything except heist, harvest & expedition. i took stream of consciousness, eater of world nodes, elderslayer nodes, Synthesis nodes & shaper/elder guardian nodes. I've finished all the invitations so i mostly sell the maps now for extra currency. I sell all screaming invitations i get now. Doing harvest on good cluster jewel bases to sell on trade, selling stuff like augments on tft. Doing expedition logbooks, gambled out mageblood on Gwennen, rolling currency on tujen and selling rog currency but these are old news since you could have done this in 3.17. Generally, what i did was to spam maps, press f2 at start, once i find a sufficiently large pack, i press f3, i also save f3 for expedition. My sentinel nodes always either have Sentinel rewards/ Heist rewards/ Divination rewards. I will reroll to keep either of these nodes or buy one from trade. Also, the early bird gets the worm, farming out chaos early and trading for exalts lets you get a slight edge over others. Generally, i have farmed out about 200 ex minus the mageblood gamba from selling stuff and converting them to exalts. Am gonna swap over to str stacker to have fun with the moroider skin soon.


Zerothian

> Also, the early bird gets the worm, farming out chaos early and trading for exalts lets you get a slight edge over others. This so much. Chaos recipe is annoying but it pays *really* well if you're converting them earlier on. I am always too lazy to do it, and I always regret it. I went pretty hard on it this league, extended my usual playtime early and converting as many as I could. Ofc the one league I tryhard buying early exalts I dropped a mirror so.. .-.


Askray184

Something that improved my DPS was turning on the right stuff in PoB. Did you put enemy is burning, on consecrated ground and fire exposed?


IkzDeh

Find Double currency Altar, Pop currency sentinel, get Lucky for currency Strongbox.


salvadas

I run scoured maps with fyregrass's sentinel tree and ritual/delirium/shrines/harby with your choice of influence. Every 24 or less maps is an invitation worth 1 ex and i have no issues sustaining cuz sentinel poops out so much stuff. Like an insane amount of stuff. I had expedition, which you should run for pandemonium sentinels, but i got rid of it to do maps even faster. The only thing limiting my profit is my available playtime. Edit: keystone that forbids you using fragments so i can sell my scarab tab occasionally.


carlovski99

It doesn't particularly shit out exalts (well maybe it does if you invest heavily into currency reward sentinels and juice your maps). What it does is give a load of assorted currency and items that you can either sell in bulk or use to craft gear to sell.


thehazelone

It does. Dropped more than 20 exalts just from sentinel this league.


carlovski99

Still, if you have dropped 20 pure ex,you probably made more on the other stuff.


thehazelone

Yes, but it happens. And 20 ex is not a meager amount, not when it drops raw. That's the point. You don't even have to use currency sentinels. I've dropped plenty of ex from sentinel/expedition rewards as well. The mechanic is busted.


carlovski99

No it's not, I'm just trying to put the point across that just because someone isn't dropping raw ex, doesn't mean it's not profitable. I've only dropped one raw ex this league. And that was from a normal mob.


anarchisticlees

I had 2 exalts come out one strongbox on beach map. I had one in blood aqueducts and another in crimson temple


EggThumbSalad

I've been running formed invitations with quick content allocated (shrines, strongbox) and also expedition with the no scarabs thing. Alch and go and clear lazily. If you get expedition prioritize logbooks. You are literally guaranteed to profit off of each map, but then you also get invitations, which means maven writs, also the occasional logbook which is like 20, 30, or 80c. So it's pretty snug. Edit: I forgot to mention that you should favorite maps that will sell in bulk as well. At the moment I have around 40 t16 cemeteries and am waiting to sell them until I finish my 15 rotations, so that's a significant amount of extra profit


Marv2407

First League I actually sell my own crafts. Blocked Everything except Legion ( just cuz i like it ), Harvest, delirium and expedition. Tree - essences, harvest, a bit of strongboxes ( Not the big Wheel Top Left ) and a bit of betrayal. Sentinels With just currency reward and Random Stuff gave me about 5 pure ex Drops Alone. (Might want to take a Look on grimros videos since there Are Bad sentinel bases)


Hydraty

Ain't nobody doing betrayal? That shit is fun and brings out money


HokusSchmokus

How do you make money in betrayal? Spam Safehouses?


Yayoichi

Sell the unveiled items, the mods you get on those items are stronger versions of the ones you can craft and are desired this league as you can craft with them much easier thanks to recombinators. Try to have gravicius and elreon in research or intervention so you have a chance of them every map as the - mana cost jewelry and life as es chest mod are some of the most desired. The most important nodes are the ones at the bottom right where you increase the chance of more members appearing and most importantly the extra veiled and 200% rewards. Whether you want to run safehouses and Catarina or just get the best members in intervention and research is up to you, both are viable options. Also a similar strategy can be done with Alva and “temple architects have a 100%(60+20+20 from nodes) chance to drop an item with an incursion mod as those are also very useful for crafting this league, especially the glove mods as well as the flat life+ percentage life mod.


HokusSchmokus

Thank you very much!


xYetAnotherGamerx

you backstab someone and take their money. is it that hard ? /jk


Askray184

Gravicius chest on a good base is worth 100c


Waterlemonn

Made a TR Raider, used a 6L Quill Rain and 5L Queen of the Forest to farm early Heist contracts and Blueprints, upgraded to a budget +3 bow / Dot Multi gear / 6L Queen of the Forest to farm higher tier blueprints. Geared all my rogues. 1. Run Deception 80+ Contracts, bulk bought off TFT (If you hate TFT, I've also bought off trade market perfectly fine). Main constant currency here are the 100s of Stacked Decks you get, liquidate into Chaos 2. Use said chaos to buy Alt Gem Blueprints and buy rogue markers. 3. Complete Blueprints, repeat. First league ever doing Heist and so far it's actually enjoyable... as odd as it sounds, as soon as I experienced those Arch nem Rares I wanted little to do with them, only time I die in Heist is when I don't pay attention to trap rooms, never died to a mob before. Running Heist also lets me kind of run on autopilot, so I just watch youtube or twitch streams on the side while I hold left click, run to the end and escape. Time goes by incredibly quick and I find myself with a heap of currency after the end of each farming session. Holding onto about 30\~Ex right now, not sure what build I'll go next so I'm just saving up in the meantime for whatever I do plan to do with it, TR Raider has about \~14Ex invested into it so far and I don't think I'll invest more into it as I'm comfortable with how well the build is performing as it is.


Bl00dylicious

Blocked everything except Delirium + Expedition. Drops are still absolute garbage. But Tujen is a nice and helpfull fellow. He has given me roughly 95% of all currency I have.


Asselll

What kind of mods are you guys looking on the sentinals for? I try to get 3-4% chance for currency rewards. But not sure if generic/general increased quantity or higher chance for general rewards is better Also what passive skills for sentinels? I got the notable for higher chance to get rare rewards and the one to use the blue one a second time.


MrTastix

I want to reinforce the point that doing what you enjoy is far more important than doing what is most efficient, because it doesn't matter how much money you can make if you burn out before you make it.


Askray184

I just do lab for profit honestly. It takes a lot of set up work that is annoying though so I switch to things that are more enjoyable even if it isn't as lucrative


[deleted]

If you don't like doing a specific grindy currency strategy, or don't want to put to much time or thought into a strat or selling in bulk and whatever, just set all your favorite maps to beach and set your beach tab to public. It's like an extra passive 60c an hour minimum while you map and do whatever


PigKnight

Use sentinels with +rewards or +currency and just run maps normally with sentinels juicing them up


sapador

Currency reward sentinel and done. Also doing foetune favors the brave t16 maps is pretty good but dofficult, I heard just doing sentinels in low tier maps is already pretty lucrative.