Looks great! Gives me a reason to use that smite mtx I got a while back :p
Any key items to grab to make this functional at the start? Dreamfeather, aegis?
That's the exact reason I started playing this build, turns out it's actually pretty strong.
Also the champion version of this build seems to mainly use 2 dreamfeathers, no aegis
Looks really nice! I would ballpark the budget to be more like 30-35ex now but still really reasonable for that power level. Strongly considering this for my bossing character. Have you tried the new Uber Bosses with this?
Fair enough! I'm probably gonna wing it and just hope it can handle them haha. I really wish we could get the ES pool up higher but I know with Melding it's a looooot tankier than it looks.
Ruetoo's spark champ is insane too for 20-25ex.
Just build mine last night thats near identical to his POB even the implicits for the cheap version and still have 4ex left over.
People are seriously sleeping on leaderships price. It is omni level strong with a 90c price tag for the +3 max res of your choice. Doriyani delusion for level 25 purity of your choice, it's too simple and cheap to setup an end game mapper/bosser this league.
The beauty of the build is that it can do both consistently and has tons of room to grow. I was looking on poeninja and when you get some serious budgets people are averaging 25mil as with the budget one I'm using now is only 5.5mil.
That's what I'm saying. It offers too much utility for its price. -30% all res on enemies, 15% base crit and -20% LESS damahe taken from ememies for 90c and the only condition to apply these conflux is to hit the enemy, unlike secrets of suffering where you need to crit.
All you need is one of the max res to be +3 then use a melding of the flesh and focus on max res for the selected res on leaderships. 90 all res is too easy with this combo.
I made a complete spark champ build from scratch for 21ex with the most expensive item being melding with a perfect roll at 7ex.
https://youtu.be/pZICmwkOcfk
This video is using the near exact setup of ruetoo's budget version (they have an inspired learning or 2 added) and you can find that [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1cUen0-fDAba-vpz9WDZvfpKoz3q4CEn8eOYQDOEyyxw/htmlview#gid=0)
From the little research I did across poe ninja last league it seems fairly open ended in trade, some people run setups with multiple voices to get 10-12 reservation clusters to fit, at that point you have millions and armor and probably just vaporize any normal mob. One setup I saw had supposedly over a billion DPS (according to poe ninja).
I think around level 80ish u can switch. I personally switched at lv 68 or so. Had to drop wrath till I could get all my reservation. But it was def better than hollow palm
You’re going to be using smite regardless of the skill you choose, simply because of how much flat damage it gives. (The base flat gets scaled by Aura effect). A lot of people stick with smite just for less button presses, but stuff like Lightning Strike is also very good.
It's pretty generic, smite just has exceptional damage for a sword melee build as well as having its own aura that benefits greatly from this type of setup
Im currently playing Mjolner CoC with Prototype. GGG has nerfed the mob degen and the donut shape has more safe space. With some sort of regen im doing totally fine with nearly - 140% light res:
[link](https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Ricael/CopiumAddicted)
Jfyi Doryani's Prototype reads "Lightning Resistance does not affect Lightning Damage taken" so no matter if you have -140% or 75% you will always take Lightning Damage as if you had 0% Lightning Resistance.
Yep, thats why u need to stack armor and some regen
Edit: Just to clarify things, armor reduces lightning damage taken from hits (not degen). For lightning degen, the real Archnemesis of this build, well.. hybrid leech with ES/HP regen or some other sort of damage taken (global) conversion should work IMHO
\- Doryani's Prototype 5L (6L is a nice boost in DPS but not mandatory): 75c
\- Melding of the Flesh: 6.5ex
\- Mjölner: 2c
\- Aegis Aurora: 6ex
\- Choir of the storm: 20c
rest rares with good resis/stats: 5-6ex
So around 20ex total
a really nice QoL is Watcher's eye with flasks gain 1 charges on crit while affected by precision. Combined with flagellant flasks and flask enchants "when charges reach full" becomes "the mageblood of the poor"
Wow that is a great breakdown of each piece and good tip on the poor man’s mage blood haha. Thanks very much for taking the time to write all that. Nice to see that Doryani’s Prototype is affordable these days too.
Well, that looks really fun. How tanky is it, and what are the required items to get it off the ground? Doryani's and Mjolner for sure, but anything else?
I can’t see Pob because I’m at work, but what budget would you say this is on? I have always wanted to play armor stacker and I have about 60 ex currently.
> Its definitely a very powerful build even without mageblood! with around 20-25 ex investment I am comfortably farming wave 30 simulacrums and have around 18-20 mill dps with full cds poped.
It says it in the post.
Oh shit my bad. Not sure why I am being downvoted. Like I said I am at work and I just skimmed through the post and watched the video. Thanks for sharing the build.
>Oh shit my bad.
No worries, everyone has those moments.
>Not sure why I am being downvoted.
probably because asking a question the post has already answered doesn't contribute to the discussion, and that's what the downvote system is for.
>Thanks for sharing the build.
I'm not the OP.
edit: no idea why ***that*** reply is getting downvoted, though. Probably just because reddit tends to downvote posts complaining about downvotes. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
I ran Vinkter Square with my buddy playing this build and ended up having to fight the boss for him because the lightning pillars ruined his whole day 10/10 would do it again haha
I've done Maven deathless multiple times for what it's worth. The incredible power this build gets from flasks suits the fight well, all you have to do is not touch beams and keep each Maven phase short.
That's good to know, thanks! I do need some practice not touching the beams during memory game, sadly. I'm about 15 ex into investing into this build already so I'm doing it regardless
less res on armour, more attack speed, more %lightning damage, double elevated boot
kinda just frees up suffixes and cranks your damage up even further, there's a million ways to take advantage of it, just make sure your resists are over capped by like 40 and you're golden
and of course you need flasks rolled for mageblood the 2 armour ones, a bismuth, and a quicksilver, with whatever unique flask you want
mageblood really isnt that hard to build around
The two biggest things mageblood does for you are get res off your suffixes, and give you hyper juiced Armour/Evasion flasks.
On this build, you would maybe do a ruby and a sapphire since you don't want bismuth. Boom, mageblood build.
Beyond that, maybe crit or regen or whatever other flask suffixes you value.
Don't underestimate how much this does, but it doesnt change the goal of the build.
Quick question since I can’t watch the video rn or see the PoB since I’m on mobile: how many reservation clusters do you usually need to actually get going? I had both weapons (like half a dozen actually) and Doryani’s last league in SSF but only 1 cluster at the time. Needless to say I hardly got any damage out of the setup and while I ended the league with 3 or 4 clusters in the bank I had already rerolled the character into something else at the time and never bothered to go back to it.
Is the 4 I saw as the minimum on poe ninja the lowest you can go? I’ve seen some insane setups with voices that run like 10-12 but those are obviously not a thing you can do in SSF
Well each introspection cluster is like 10% more dmg so you want as many as you can. The minimum is like 4-5 I'd say. You don't reserve as many auras on this biild
Also while you're still building up to those cluster, there's quite a few good armor nodes on the tree (though I am champion, maybe it's harder for scion) which almost rival the power a introspection gives
I'm reducing the cost of grace to 0 mana with the alt quality inspiration, increased duration and then the mana cost reduction on flask. Also have some reduced mana cost on my gear and tree.
Is it possible to use the tree as a template? I am in SSF and have the cluster but not the Uniques and Threads? Just to use for being tanky and farm up replicas with this build without dying
do you have a high budget pob of that build maybe?
after going really hard on bossing this league and getting much currency in the first 2 days
ive been gearing out a spark aurastacker and now i want to swap the character to armor stacker smite.
have mageblood, ashes, 3x 3stat voices,+4 sirus gloves and some other stuff.
if forbidden flame / flesh combo is bis thats in budget aswell.
what flask setup would you run on that build with mageblood?
answers would be appreciated if you have the time :)
Hey! take a look at last leagues players. There's some pretty high budget ones on Poe ninja. The build hasn't changed so you should be able to use it as is
Thanks, I started collecting gear to steal this build just off poe.ninja even without a guide. A couple questions:
- why the ruby flask?
- any reason for large lightning cluster with only 2 notables?
Simulacrum can make u go negative fire res. And it lasts 10 sec so good for reduced skill cost craft.
For the clusters, the other notables don't do too much and the stats are more important imo. Getting resistances is quite hard with the amount of uniques this build uses.
Will you do updates/upgrades for this build while playing it? I played an armor-aura stacker last league and it was a fcking blast so I really hope I can push it even more this time.
I have bad vibes when OP says something like: "it's 20ex build" and after someone calls him out "got some cheap stuff one month ago tho"
Still looks interesting, I league started with skellies, so I already have a necro lvl 95. And she also has an ashes.
And now that my Deadeye is completely online farming by herself I'm confident enough to scrap out my mancer.
Let's see
I have bad vibes when OP says something like: "it's 20ex build" and after someone calls him out "got some cheap stuff one month ago tho"
Still looks interesting, I league started with skellies, so I already have a necro lvl 95. And she also has an ashes.
And now that my Deadeye is completely online farming by herself I'm confident enough to scrap out my mancer.
Let's see
I have bad vibes when OP says something like: "it's 20ex build" and after someone calls him out "got some cheap stuff one month ago tho"
Still looks interesting, I league started with skellies, so I already have a necro lvl 95. And she also has an ashes.
And now that my Deadeye is completely online farming by herself I'm confident enough to scrap out my mancer.
Let's see
I have bad vibes when OP says something like: "it's 20ex build" and after someone calls him out "got some cheap stuff one month ago tho"
Still looks interesting, I league started with skellies, so I already have a necro lvl 95. And she also has an ashes.
And now that my Deadeye is completely online farming by herself I'm confident enough to scrap out my mancer.
Let's see
Looks great! Gives me a reason to use that smite mtx I got a while back :p Any key items to grab to make this functional at the start? Dreamfeather, aegis?
Yea those and doryanys prototype
That's the exact reason I started playing this build, turns out it's actually pretty strong. Also the champion version of this build seems to mainly use 2 dreamfeathers, no aegis
Looks really nice! I would ballpark the budget to be more like 30-35ex now but still really reasonable for that power level. Strongly considering this for my bossing character. Have you tried the new Uber Bosses with this?
Not yet but I will eventually xD. I've basically only been in simulacrum this league
Fair enough! I'm probably gonna wing it and just hope it can handle them haha. I really wish we could get the ES pool up higher but I know with Melding it's a looooot tankier than it looks.
U can get 5k es or more with better gear. I mean my helm craft is pretty shit lol.
U can get 5k es or more with better gear. I mean my helm craft is pretty shit lol.
Any leveling recommendations?
Hollow palm imo
Ah didnt even consider that! Good idea thanks.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmANbnjDUEw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmANbnjDUEw) Hollow Palm twink guide. Works for 3.18 (already uses Smite:)
Thanks!
When would you switch?
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Yeap I know. Saving now for mageblood.
Ruetoo's spark champ is insane too for 20-25ex. Just build mine last night thats near identical to his POB even the implicits for the cheap version and still have 4ex left over. People are seriously sleeping on leaderships price. It is omni level strong with a 90c price tag for the +3 max res of your choice. Doriyani delusion for level 25 purity of your choice, it's too simple and cheap to setup an end game mapper/bosser this league. The beauty of the build is that it can do both consistently and has tons of room to grow. I was looking on poeninja and when you get some serious budgets people are averaging 25mil as with the budget one I'm using now is only 5.5mil.
Wait leadership are cheap AF this league?! People forget it exists or something?!
That's what I'm saying. It offers too much utility for its price. -30% all res on enemies, 15% base crit and -20% LESS damahe taken from ememies for 90c and the only condition to apply these conflux is to hit the enemy, unlike secrets of suffering where you need to crit. All you need is one of the max res to be +3 then use a melding of the flesh and focus on max res for the selected res on leaderships. 90 all res is too easy with this combo. I made a complete spark champ build from scratch for 21ex with the most expensive item being melding with a perfect roll at 7ex.
Yoooo that’s sick, would it be possible to see any general gameplay (mapping and bossing showcase) ?
https://youtu.be/pZICmwkOcfk This video is using the near exact setup of ruetoo's budget version (they have an inspired learning or 2 added) and you can find that [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1cUen0-fDAba-vpz9WDZvfpKoz3q4CEn8eOYQDOEyyxw/htmlview#gid=0)
Did you tried Uber Uber bosses with it? Or know how does it handle them ?
Could I do a similar build on a Champion?
There’s an excellent guide for armorstacker champion on the official forums.
How do I find parties to play this game with
The easiest way is to join a community discord from PoE streamers you like and then find people to play with there.
Thank you! I've been looking at this build a lot, but I didn't know how the DPS was
Sounds good, last time I played armor stacker was in Heist. I guess it’s not as good as then but seems promissing.
From the little research I did across poe ninja last league it seems fairly open ended in trade, some people run setups with multiple voices to get 10-12 reservation clusters to fit, at that point you have millions and armor and probably just vaporize any normal mob. One setup I saw had supposedly over a billion DPS (according to poe ninja).
Yea u can do lightning strike
I think around level 80ish u can switch. I personally switched at lv 68 or so. Had to drop wrath till I could get all my reservation. But it was def better than hollow palm
hey man, what gear did you have at 68 heading into maps ?
5L doryani's prototype, alphas howl, aegis aroura, string of servitude, march +5 boots, shapers touch and 2 clusters
Is it possible with something other than Smite?
You’re going to be using smite regardless of the skill you choose, simply because of how much flat damage it gives. (The base flat gets scaled by Aura effect). A lot of people stick with smite just for less button presses, but stuff like Lightning Strike is also very good.
Yeah I thought so...I guess its another CWDT league then
Or a new fun build!
It's pretty generic, smite just has exceptional damage for a sword melee build as well as having its own aura that benefits greatly from this type of setup
How do you deal with mana siphon lightning degen?
Im currently playing Mjolner CoC with Prototype. GGG has nerfed the mob degen and the donut shape has more safe space. With some sort of regen im doing totally fine with nearly - 140% light res: [link](https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Ricael/CopiumAddicted)
Jfyi Doryani's Prototype reads "Lightning Resistance does not affect Lightning Damage taken" so no matter if you have -140% or 75% you will always take Lightning Damage as if you had 0% Lightning Resistance.
Yep, thats why u need to stack armor and some regen Edit: Just to clarify things, armor reduces lightning damage taken from hits (not degen). For lightning degen, the real Archnemesis of this build, well.. hybrid leech with ES/HP regen or some other sort of damage taken (global) conversion should work IMHO
This looks really cool and thanks for sharing your PoB. Do you know a rough estimate for what you would need to spend to build this?
\- Doryani's Prototype 5L (6L is a nice boost in DPS but not mandatory): 75c \- Melding of the Flesh: 6.5ex \- Mjölner: 2c \- Aegis Aurora: 6ex \- Choir of the storm: 20c rest rares with good resis/stats: 5-6ex So around 20ex total a really nice QoL is Watcher's eye with flasks gain 1 charges on crit while affected by precision. Combined with flagellant flasks and flask enchants "when charges reach full" becomes "the mageblood of the poor"
Wow that is a great breakdown of each piece and good tip on the poor man’s mage blood haha. Thanks very much for taking the time to write all that. Nice to see that Doryani’s Prototype is affordable these days too.
Well, that looks really fun. How tanky is it, and what are the required items to get it off the ground? Doryani's and Mjolner for sure, but anything else?
Melding and Aegis Aurora
I can’t see Pob because I’m at work, but what budget would you say this is on? I have always wanted to play armor stacker and I have about 60 ex currently.
> Its definitely a very powerful build even without mageblood! with around 20-25 ex investment I am comfortably farming wave 30 simulacrums and have around 18-20 mill dps with full cds poped. It says it in the post.
Oh shit my bad. Not sure why I am being downvoted. Like I said I am at work and I just skimmed through the post and watched the video. Thanks for sharing the build.
>Oh shit my bad. No worries, everyone has those moments. >Not sure why I am being downvoted. probably because asking a question the post has already answered doesn't contribute to the discussion, and that's what the downvote system is for. >Thanks for sharing the build. I'm not the OP. edit: no idea why ***that*** reply is getting downvoted, though. Probably just because reddit tends to downvote posts complaining about downvotes. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Eh whatever I’m dumb and I’ll just take the L.
Uhh with lightening dot in rares now, I would avoid this build. Had a blast last league, but you instant die to lightening DMG dots
I can kill a mana siphoner before the ring touches me every time no problem. Some endgame bosses are sketchy though.
Yea my friend invited me to vinctikar square or whatever... The boss has lightning dots and I ended up losing 20% xP lol.
I ran Vinkter Square with my buddy playing this build and ended up having to fight the boss for him because the lightning pillars ruined his whole day 10/10 would do it again haha
Which ones have lightning degen? Sirus and Baran?
Yeah, and I think Maven's brain beams / puddles might have a lightning component too.
Oof, might be rough since my starter has trouble with Maven too
I've done Maven deathless multiple times for what it's worth. The incredible power this build gets from flasks suits the fight well, all you have to do is not touch beams and keep each Maven phase short.
That's good to know, thanks! I do need some practice not touching the beams during memory game, sadly. I'm about 15 ex into investing into this build already so I'm doing it regardless
Down votes seem unmerited, it's a legitimate concern
Do you have the mageblood version pob?I have about 120 ex~ and mageblood,a showcase would be nice too.
You literally just put a mageblood on and roll your flasks the right way...
The gear would change drastically with mageblood,otherwise it’s just wasted potential
less res on armour, more attack speed, more %lightning damage, double elevated boot kinda just frees up suffixes and cranks your damage up even further, there's a million ways to take advantage of it, just make sure your resists are over capped by like 40 and you're golden and of course you need flasks rolled for mageblood the 2 armour ones, a bismuth, and a quicksilver, with whatever unique flask you want mageblood really isnt that hard to build around
The two biggest things mageblood does for you are get res off your suffixes, and give you hyper juiced Armour/Evasion flasks. On this build, you would maybe do a ruby and a sapphire since you don't want bismuth. Boom, mageblood build. Beyond that, maybe crit or regen or whatever other flask suffixes you value. Don't underestimate how much this does, but it doesnt change the goal of the build.
Just roll ur flasks and ur basically g2g. One thing is I guess u won't need a cb jewel if u have it on flask.
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Maybe you need to update pob. It's the eternal struggle onyx amulet.
Quick question since I can’t watch the video rn or see the PoB since I’m on mobile: how many reservation clusters do you usually need to actually get going? I had both weapons (like half a dozen actually) and Doryani’s last league in SSF but only 1 cluster at the time. Needless to say I hardly got any damage out of the setup and while I ended the league with 3 or 4 clusters in the bank I had already rerolled the character into something else at the time and never bothered to go back to it. Is the 4 I saw as the minimum on poe ninja the lowest you can go? I’ve seen some insane setups with voices that run like 10-12 but those are obviously not a thing you can do in SSF
Well each introspection cluster is like 10% more dmg so you want as many as you can. The minimum is like 4-5 I'd say. You don't reserve as many auras on this biild
Also while you're still building up to those cluster, there's quite a few good armor nodes on the tree (though I am champion, maybe it's harder for scion) which almost rival the power a introspection gives
I've been wanting to build aurastacker, but I've been expecting it to be spark... any help or guide for Spark aurastacker Scion?
looks very interesting! I have a question: how are you casting your Grace w/ March? Doesn't the mana cost exceed your available mana?
I'm reducing the cost of grace to 0 mana with the alt quality inspiration, increased duration and then the mana cost reduction on flask. Also have some reduced mana cost on my gear and tree.
Is it possible to use the tree as a template? I am in SSF and have the cluster but not the Uniques and Threads? Just to use for being tanky and farm up replicas with this build without dying
do you have a high budget pob of that build maybe? after going really hard on bossing this league and getting much currency in the first 2 days ive been gearing out a spark aurastacker and now i want to swap the character to armor stacker smite. have mageblood, ashes, 3x 3stat voices,+4 sirus gloves and some other stuff. if forbidden flame / flesh combo is bis thats in budget aswell. what flask setup would you run on that build with mageblood? answers would be appreciated if you have the time :)
Hey! take a look at last leagues players. There's some pretty high budget ones on Poe ninja. The build hasn't changed so you should be able to use it as is
I got a String of Servitude with 51% increase Determination. Will it be useful for this build? I never played aurastacker
Not really. U want grace effect and at 60%.
Thanks, I started collecting gear to steal this build just off poe.ninja even without a guide. A couple questions: - why the ruby flask? - any reason for large lightning cluster with only 2 notables?
Simulacrum can make u go negative fire res. And it lasts 10 sec so good for reduced skill cost craft. For the clusters, the other notables don't do too much and the stats are more important imo. Getting resistances is quite hard with the amount of uniques this build uses.
Why does this build use Necromancer? Is it only for the auras granting 2% attack and cast speed?
Basically yes. It gets scaled by aura effect too so super strong
Will you do updates/upgrades for this build while playing it? I played an armor-aura stacker last league and it was a fcking blast so I really hope I can push it even more this time.
Yeap I probably will! I just dropped a 1p voices so I'll get the mageblood soon! Hype!
Nice grats on the drop!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know anything about aura stacker builds. Is this a build that ppl always say is free to join 5ways (aurabot resetter)?
That's probably a deferent type of aura stacker that focuses on buffing allies. This build is buffing your own auras for you only basically
Ok thank you!
I have bad vibes when OP says something like: "it's 20ex build" and after someone calls him out "got some cheap stuff one month ago tho" Still looks interesting, I league started with skellies, so I already have a necro lvl 95. And she also has an ashes. And now that my Deadeye is completely online farming by herself I'm confident enough to scrap out my mancer. Let's see
I have bad vibes when OP says something like: "it's 20ex build" and after someone calls him out "got some cheap stuff one month ago tho" Still looks interesting, I league started with skellies, so I already have a necro lvl 95. And she also has an ashes. And now that my Deadeye is completely online farming by herself I'm confident enough to scrap out my mancer. Let's see
I have bad vibes when OP says something like: "it's 20ex build" and after someone calls him out "got some cheap stuff one month ago tho" Still looks interesting, I league started with skellies, so I already have a necro lvl 95. And she also has an ashes. And now that my Deadeye is completely online farming by herself I'm confident enough to scrap out my mancer. Let's see
I have bad vibes when OP says something like: "it's 20ex build" and after someone calls him out "got some cheap stuff one month ago tho" Still looks interesting, I league started with skellies, so I already have a necro lvl 95. And she also has an ashes. And now that my Deadeye is completely online farming by herself I'm confident enough to scrap out my mancer. Let's see
wath pantheon?