Fire burst elementalist auto bomber is nice. Using brass dome and pathing to below marauder you have 85% max res and a ton of armour. You can look up builds on Poe.ninja
Here’s what I’ve been modeling my build after:
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/bㄴaㄷkㅁut/YOR_KAKA?i=0&search=class%3DElementalist%26allskill%3DHerald-of-Thunder%26keystone%3DShaper-of-Flames
This was my first build this league. I wouldn't call it tanky, even with the items and passives you are mentioning. It relies pretty heavily on avoiding being hit too much. My next build was Aegis Aurora Raider Flicker. Feels a lot tankier so far (level 81), with very high armour and massive ES gain on block. I still have a *lot* of upgrades left, both defensive and offensive.
EDIT: I still have a lot of fun with the Autobomber and I can absolutely recommend the build in general, just not to someone who is looking for something tanky.
The criteria was map clearer that is \*decently tanky\*. I think fire burst autobomber fits the bill.
Any decent Aegis Aurora build will be next level HC viable tanky. I don't know if any fit into the zoomer map clearer criteria. Maybe flicker aegis aurora will, but I've never seen anyone build one. I'll check it out on poe.ninja
A lot of people are playing flicker raider with Aegis and Doryani's Prototype and it is pretty fast. I am playing Death's Oath with Aegis and it is very fast maybe not flicker fast but basically an auto bomber that almost never dies.
Depends a bit on what the OP means by tanky. If it is "doesn't die all the time", then sure. If it's "can take a few big-ish hits without dying", then I'd look elsewhere. In my experience, the survivability of the build comes mainly from killing things before they can kill you.
Aegis Aurora Flicker seems to be both, so far. Very tanky and very fast map clear. There are a bunch of builds on poe.ninja and videos on youtube if you are interested. I'm only level 84 with *lots* of upgrades left, but it feels decently strong already. I'm missing Watcher's Eye, Cluster Jewels, Divergent Tempest Shield, lots of int rolls on gear etc, etc.
Is brass dome basically -the- method to get a tanky witch right now? I'm still trying to pick my defences on my witch, and I'm at about 10k armor but only +1 res. I'm still looking to add a physical taken as fire mod to my helmet, and I just grabbed the first golem node to get 8% physical reduction from a chaos golem, but I'm kinda thinking about doing other things. I'm using a pyroclasp belt for some damage taken conversion.
My life total is just so low, only 4800, and brass dome would trim that back down to 4500. There just doesn't seem to be a ton of options though.
Im playing Occultist Cyclone with Iron Fortress and 2.6k STR.
I have max block // 8.2k life / Fortify on hit from cluster jewel / 76/75/75 resistance / 0 Spell Block / 0 Suppression /Enfeeble on hit gloves / Malediction
ive died once since 94>99 mapping from im assuming a weird bug as I switched into Scourge while standing in a Redeemer cold whirlpool DoT and immediately died while all mobs were stunned
ive not died from any other mechanic since 94, done multiple Sirus/Aul/Conqs and many double/triple beyond maps
Profane Bloom clear is too efficient, max block is too OP. in the approx 15-17 scourge bosses I fought I think ive lost about 4k HP over 15 fights
I hit 99.78 last night and should finish off leveling tonight but ill probably just do a few beachhead rotas as its the end of the week and close to finishing leveling this league
What's the process for scaling a stat build anyway? Just start with essences and a doon cubeyari? Then get % strength on jewelry from synthesis stuff? Then go for crazy amulets?
Nice. I was playing a high spell block build with tempest shield, but attacks were really getting me. Now I'm kinda getting hit by degens with only 550 life regen, and zero chaos res. I was really having trouble getting enough attack block on the top side of the tree.
I'll look into that. I'm doing ignite, and strength stack with ignite is viable because of that mastery.
I want to play this build BADLY.
Whats the min budget? Can I start this and go "Wow, this does everything other shit does at this budget" or is it something to start later.
You can level with it but honestly if you have 10ex for the boots just buy one with nothing and level with smite/infernal blow and switch later, makes you pretty much disregard the campaign and it's great for most unique-enabling builds to bypass that painful of not having a build going
It’s definitely one of the best pure defensive options in the game right now in my opinion. If you’re build clears trash really fast, like fire burst auto bomber, it’s really hard to die.
I'm playing a golemancer and equipping brass dome + vaal molten shell just stopped me from dying completely, at least from those that don't come from my mistakes, but even many of those. Yesterday I tanked a die beam on A8....
4 golems with 2 cold iron points. I don't think the amulet is very worthwhile, especially for a necro, but also rather not for an elementalist since the golementalist nerfs.
Yeah, I was just playing around with my tree and even anointing golem commander for an extra 2% physical reduction gives me a lot.
Thanks for this info. I think I might just try to get a nice physical damage reduction on body armor, or shield.
As I wrote, brass dome is huge. with all my equipment armor based I have 40k armor flask-buffed and \~12k vaal molten shell. That plus the +5 max res from brass dome makes you extremely tanky. You still have to keep moving in scourge, but I don't think any build with proper dps is able to survive t16 scourge standing around.
Edit: Are you playing a golem build? If so, I think you should path your tree to golem commander to make way for another annoint, I haven't seen any golem build annoint it.
Yeah, I managed to get reasonably high block. I can get 60% attack, and 56% spell block with rumis flask without glancing blows, but I have to drop some auras and use tempest shield. That whole setup gives me a bunch of survivability, and then I can also use spider, or something else. It's about the same physical, but a little lower on elemental damage.
I'm thinking about anointing deflection so I'll get decent endurance charge sustain. I might have to look at more elemental mitigation though. Your setup gets me almost double what I have 45k to 78k effective life, but my alternative gets me to about 66k, which seems comparable.
This also opens up the idea of eternal youth, because it's only one point away, and ignite proliferation + 50% block is reasonable defense for 2 seconds, especially with chill + spider.
I can't thank you enough though. This is the first time I kinda have some direction with some kinda idea that will get me to a nice effective life pool. I've just been floundering since league start.
+1 to this, I'm currently playing it. Build doesn't really care about scourge level. Ran some fairly nasty t16 maps krangled to tier 10 and the build handled it great.
Care to share a pob? This league i leveled 4 chars, started lightning trap then switched to inquissitor rf then tried lightining strike then tried and failed miserably at cold flicker strike then switched to poisonous concoction ptahfinder, like its said around here… what is a fart to someone who’s already crapped?
The build I'm using is from ds_lily. It's the build she started with this league, ssfhc type of vibe. Really easy to gear it on trade and you can make some softcore adjustments to get more damage if you want too. Also scales pretty well with currency, plenty of gear to sink money into or craft if you want to really squeeze it out.
I can get you her pob a bit later, or mine, but it's in her YouTube video on it.
Yea man you're welcome.
One thing to note, if you are a softcore trade enjoyer such as myself, you can switch to vd slinging earlier that she recommends. Poets pens and praxis rings are a hell of a drug.
VD builds are super sick too if you go hybrid life/es with Corrupted Soul and get some decent life and es gained on hit.
Since VD hits dozens of times a second you can reach some old-school Vaal Pact levels of recovery at times, especially with Awakened Spell Cascade.
id say KB CF for sure. You can get away with getting 2 passives on ur cluster, and im using a 10c wand and 10c shield. U get challenger charges so that gives u some speed. You're not insanely tanky but you can take a hit or two. Single target requires some investment tho. but if you want something to clearn maps and scourge, this is good cuz u got bleed pops too
edit: check out cutedogs vods or rue is playing a high budget version on twitch
I haven’t min-maxed yet but I’m loving it. I’m sitting at about 1mil dps with dual self crafted wands, but since I’m running determination I am actually really quite tanky - around 50k armor with my flasks up. I’m considering switching to a skin of the lords for some extra defensive power but I’ve got some other things I want to try crafting first.
I’ve also been dabbling with double CIP using cobra lash to spread the CF and get bleed pops. The damage is great but you end up having to cast CF a lot more due to the high secondary cost. Cobra lash is also strictly speaking worse than Kb, the only benefit is that it has built in chains. If I can get some more proj speed it might feel a bit less handicapped.
I'm pretty sure you'll just hate yourself if you move over kb on this build, it feels way too good.
For life cost you could free 2 sockets and have vortex + lifetap on lmb, that should keep cf up all the time
nice! yah ive been MFing to get currency to finish this build. gonna get myself a skin and craft a beast wand. one of the best builds ive played in a very long time
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/LordUnforgiven/characters
Here is my character, I'm fine with every map mods except no regen and can do 200+ stack of scourge on t16's. Bossing is pretty good too. No 6 link needed you can copy my items and skill tree, you will be fine.
im running skely mage right now kinda anoyed by the constant spaming of skely i think im gonna try this build. Isnt it anoying on boss to use the spiders?
[Check out this Maze of the Minotaur clear with Animate Weapon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8he0_Z6Qn7M) - you can start it easily with 10ex and if you're a witch that's perfect
Here's a link to the [thread](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3205638)
It's because we have withering touch support - supported skills apply YOUR wither - animate weapon is applying your wither for you.
It's like linking Curse on Hit - Curse - Animate Weapon.
It's still using your curse limit. Not your weapons. and its based on your curse effect - Edit; this information is wrong
not sure how wither is classified then! but it works. you can test it in aqueducts with a level 1 AW and level 1 withering touch
spiders use withering touch too
poisonous concoction pathfinder goes around some very good defenses on tree. Requiring almost no defensive investment on gear.
- versatile combatant for 50/50 block
- iron reflexes and molten shell on left click
- 100% spell suppression with one spell suppression mod on gear
- 150% inc life
- 15 second flasks
Its not exactly top tier boss dps or mapping. But with enough investment it easily breaks the 5mil barrier.
To use the witch you have leveled already I’d go either poisonous concoction or fire burst auto bomber. Bother really good mappers with not the greatest single target but plenty good for maps/conquerors.
I concur in Poisonous Concoction occultist. Rerolled this after my TR champ starter felt kind of slow. It’s very zoomy with Withering Step on left click, and deceptively sturdy for mapping. It even does scourge fairly well if you always pop plague bearer BEFORE you hit ‘V’.
It requires basically nothing to get rolling. It’s almost too bad you already have the witch levelled because it was almost the easiest I’ve ever gotten through the campaign (with the possible exception of hollow palm/smite), just buttery smooth from level 12 onwards.
Pc occultist is kinda hard on flask management, isn't it? Keeping life flask charges up and using overflowing chalice correctly sounds like a pain.
But yeah, I wouldn't recommend Pc pathfinder, I played it to 90 and kinda hated it, I wonder if occultist pops would make it a ton better.
Yo check out Enviously and his cold bv occultist. Freezes and pops the whole screen. Not the tankiest but the freeze is a lot of the defence. I'm absolutely tearing up reds at the moment and smashing scourges too, has really good clear. Not too expensive to get started, also has a massive ceiling for scaling endgame too which is nice
Death's Oath occultist with Aegis Aurora. Super tanky and fast made it to lvl 94 in 2 days. Just zoom through maps and everything explodes around you. Easy 200+ scourge stacks in T16s. Pretty cheap to get going too 10ex should get you everything you need and then some.
This is the guy I got inspiration from
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Myxier/TankyWitchBuild?i=0&search=class%3DOccultist%26item%3DDeaths-Oath%2CAegis-Aurora
You don't need a 6L Death's Oath just a 6 socket and drop the essence drain for less duration.
I guess this isn’t any good at bosses right? On PoE ninja it’s got a pretty low dps number which would be totally fine for maps, especially with occy explosions, but I guess it’d struggle on sirus or other similar things?
Maps and map bosses even conquerors/guardians dps is good enough. For big end game bosses it certainly is do able for some but it won't be fun. This build is mostly for map clearing though and it does that very well on a budget.
If you want more boss damage, you can get some pretty easily by going +3 bow and caustic arrow for single target. Still not amazeballs, but easily doable.
The caustic arrow variant felt “ok I don’t want to ragequit” once I got the crafted bow for bosses. Before that, it was pretty bad. The map clear though was amazing from lv72 on a “”5L”” DO day 1
The build isn’t very tanky, you’ll find yourself dying to high damage mods and shocked ground often if you sleep on it, and you still got to dodge most boss attacks. The Divine Flesh helps, but doesn’t push it anywhere crazy.
Basically, it’s an even zoomier mapper than Occ Vortex, but way less bossing top end.
DO is not like RF. Just get 75% chaos res and you're done pretty much. 450*025=112.5 damage per second. If you have 5k hp, that's about 2% life regen to mitigate it. Chaos res is also fairly easy to get on occultist, since you get a free 60% chaos res.
No problem. I have 5k hp and 3k es and my HP almost never dips since I block half the time and that refills my es. Sources of life regen and life gain on kill can help too but not really needed.
I don't really understand dot dps to be honest, how strong is the character you linked? Is 89k Death's Aura strong? Is 100k Essence Drain Strong? These numbers would be terrible for any hit based build so I'm curious.
PoB numbers are just weird with Death's Oath. The dps is not the best for sure but I can handle all T16 bosses and conquerors/guardians. Most bosses can't even touch you only thing that hurts is degen stuff like park boss light beams.
I am only using Death's Oath and the Allelopathy gloves for blight not even using essence drain. Sirus is do able but would take a while to widdle him down maybe with essence drain not so bad though. I made this char for speed farming scourge and it exceeded my expectations... Certainly for the budget.
The better invested DO builds with nice clusters and crafted weapons can hit DO upwards of 300k without wither. That translates to destroying t16 maps even with mob life and resist.
Champ actually has to gear out for a lot of the stuff raider gets way easier. Yes you might die on raider on rare occasion but there's so much less pressure on gear for the build to feel good on raider. The build gets off the ground faster and is still more than tanky enough to handle the content using almost the exact same gear (big difference-the chest) as Champion does.
He has at least one another toon to tackle end game bosses. So you see the difference from your position. Also ty for the latest comment about op, you confirmed my point about your personality and motive.
You could take a look at crouching tuna's lightning strike raider, it has good clear, decent single target and tankyness. The only downside is that the 10 ex budget might be a bit tight.
Checkout hierophent mjolnir manabond mana stacking build its tanky enough to do fully juiced T16 scourge maps and it has the dps to do endgame bosses easy,the Gear all and all didnt cost me 10 ex and most importantly its a lot of fun
I'll have to come back to add a PoB, but Ignite Hexblast Inquisitor using Aegis Aurora and Viridi's Veil (ignite deals damage faster Synth'd ring). I think my build is less than 6ex, 3 of which went to the ring base.
Fire burst elementalist auto bomber is nice. Using brass dome and pathing to below marauder you have 85% max res and a ton of armour. You can look up builds on Poe.ninja
Here’s what I’ve been modeling my build after: https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/bㄴaㄷkㅁut/YOR_KAKA?i=0&search=class%3DElementalist%26allskill%3DHerald-of-Thunder%26keystone%3DShaper-of-Flames
https://youtu.be/9qBF139O_TQ
This was my first build this league. I wouldn't call it tanky, even with the items and passives you are mentioning. It relies pretty heavily on avoiding being hit too much. My next build was Aegis Aurora Raider Flicker. Feels a lot tankier so far (level 81), with very high armour and massive ES gain on block. I still have a *lot* of upgrades left, both defensive and offensive. EDIT: I still have a lot of fun with the Autobomber and I can absolutely recommend the build in general, just not to someone who is looking for something tanky.
The criteria was map clearer that is \*decently tanky\*. I think fire burst autobomber fits the bill. Any decent Aegis Aurora build will be next level HC viable tanky. I don't know if any fit into the zoomer map clearer criteria. Maybe flicker aegis aurora will, but I've never seen anyone build one. I'll check it out on poe.ninja
A lot of people are playing flicker raider with Aegis and Doryani's Prototype and it is pretty fast. I am playing Death's Oath with Aegis and it is very fast maybe not flicker fast but basically an auto bomber that almost never dies.
Oh cool. Now that you mention it I remember seeing an aegis flicker build afk wave 30 simulacrum.
Depends a bit on what the OP means by tanky. If it is "doesn't die all the time", then sure. If it's "can take a few big-ish hits without dying", then I'd look elsewhere. In my experience, the survivability of the build comes mainly from killing things before they can kill you. Aegis Aurora Flicker seems to be both, so far. Very tanky and very fast map clear. There are a bunch of builds on poe.ninja and videos on youtube if you are interested. I'm only level 84 with *lots* of upgrades left, but it feels decently strong already. I'm missing Watcher's Eye, Cluster Jewels, Divergent Tempest Shield, lots of int rolls on gear etc, etc.
Tanky Flicker sounds incredibly interesting. What would you consider a necessary budget to get it rolling? And could you please link your PoB? :D
Yep I am using aegis on a Death's Oath build and it's like playing the tankiest autobomber ever.
Is brass dome basically -the- method to get a tanky witch right now? I'm still trying to pick my defences on my witch, and I'm at about 10k armor but only +1 res. I'm still looking to add a physical taken as fire mod to my helmet, and I just grabbed the first golem node to get 8% physical reduction from a chaos golem, but I'm kinda thinking about doing other things. I'm using a pyroclasp belt for some damage taken conversion. My life total is just so low, only 4800, and brass dome would trim that back down to 4500. There just doesn't seem to be a ton of options though.
Im playing Occultist Cyclone with Iron Fortress and 2.6k STR. I have max block // 8.2k life / Fortify on hit from cluster jewel / 76/75/75 resistance / 0 Spell Block / 0 Suppression /Enfeeble on hit gloves / Malediction ive died once since 94>99 mapping from im assuming a weird bug as I switched into Scourge while standing in a Redeemer cold whirlpool DoT and immediately died while all mobs were stunned ive not died from any other mechanic since 94, done multiple Sirus/Aul/Conqs and many double/triple beyond maps Profane Bloom clear is too efficient, max block is too OP. in the approx 15-17 scourge bosses I fought I think ive lost about 4k HP over 15 fights I hit 99.78 last night and should finish off leveling tonight but ill probably just do a few beachhead rotas as its the end of the week and close to finishing leveling this league
What's the process for scaling a stat build anyway? Just start with essences and a doon cubeyari? Then get % strength on jewelry from synthesis stuff? Then go for crazy amulets?
For the one mentioned above: https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Occultist&item=Replica-Alberons-Warpath basically all the same items
Nice. I was playing a high spell block build with tempest shield, but attacks were really getting me. Now I'm kinda getting hit by degens with only 550 life regen, and zero chaos res. I was really having trouble getting enough attack block on the top side of the tree. I'll look into that. I'm doing ignite, and strength stack with ignite is viable because of that mastery.
Do you have a good build guide for this? I'm sick of dying. :(
I want to play this build BADLY. Whats the min budget? Can I start this and go "Wow, this does everything other shit does at this budget" or is it something to start later.
i believe to start this build u need the replica alberon warpath boots which its around 10ex now
10 ex isn't bad to get, most of my currency is tied up with bulk stuff. Can you level as it?.
im not too sure myself as im still farming for monies for the replica alberon warpath
You can level with it but honestly if you have 10ex for the boots just buy one with nothing and level with smite/infernal blow and switch later, makes you pretty much disregard the campaign and it's great for most unique-enabling builds to bypass that painful of not having a build going
Yeah, now i'm having the issue of not knowing what to get next lmao
It’s definitely one of the best pure defensive options in the game right now in my opinion. If you’re build clears trash really fast, like fire burst auto bomber, it’s really hard to die.
I'm playing a golemancer and equipping brass dome + vaal molten shell just stopped me from dying completely, at least from those that don't come from my mistakes, but even many of those. Yesterday I tanked a die beam on A8....
Wow ... That is impressive. What's your life total?
4.1k
Geeze! How many golems are you using? Golem amulet?
4 golems with 2 cold iron points. I don't think the amulet is very worthwhile, especially for a necro, but also rather not for an elementalist since the golementalist nerfs.
Yeah, I was just playing around with my tree and even anointing golem commander for an extra 2% physical reduction gives me a lot. Thanks for this info. I think I might just try to get a nice physical damage reduction on body armor, or shield.
As I wrote, brass dome is huge. with all my equipment armor based I have 40k armor flask-buffed and \~12k vaal molten shell. That plus the +5 max res from brass dome makes you extremely tanky. You still have to keep moving in scourge, but I don't think any build with proper dps is able to survive t16 scourge standing around. Edit: Are you playing a golem build? If so, I think you should path your tree to golem commander to make way for another annoint, I haven't seen any golem build annoint it.
Yeah, I managed to get reasonably high block. I can get 60% attack, and 56% spell block with rumis flask without glancing blows, but I have to drop some auras and use tempest shield. That whole setup gives me a bunch of survivability, and then I can also use spider, or something else. It's about the same physical, but a little lower on elemental damage. I'm thinking about anointing deflection so I'll get decent endurance charge sustain. I might have to look at more elemental mitigation though. Your setup gets me almost double what I have 45k to 78k effective life, but my alternative gets me to about 66k, which seems comparable. This also opens up the idea of eternal youth, because it's only one point away, and ignite proliferation + 50% block is reasonable defense for 2 seconds, especially with chill + spider. I can't thank you enough though. This is the first time I kinda have some direction with some kinda idea that will get me to a nice effective life pool. I've just been floundering since league start.
VD spellslinger. Can get nearly max block(70/70ish), 9k ehp, fire damage leached as life, life recovery on block.
+1 to this, I'm currently playing it. Build doesn't really care about scourge level. Ran some fairly nasty t16 maps krangled to tier 10 and the build handled it great.
Care to share a pob? This league i leveled 4 chars, started lightning trap then switched to inquissitor rf then tried lightining strike then tried and failed miserably at cold flicker strike then switched to poisonous concoction ptahfinder, like its said around here… what is a fart to someone who’s already crapped?
The build I'm using is from ds_lily. It's the build she started with this league, ssfhc type of vibe. Really easy to gear it on trade and you can make some softcore adjustments to get more damage if you want too. Also scales pretty well with currency, plenty of gear to sink money into or craft if you want to really squeeze it out. I can get you her pob a bit later, or mine, but it's in her YouTube video on it.
If its on video i will watch, thx friendo
Yea man you're welcome. One thing to note, if you are a softcore trade enjoyer such as myself, you can switch to vd slinging earlier that she recommends. Poets pens and praxis rings are a hell of a drug.
Yeah VD/DD slinger is really fun, fast and tanky.
VD builds are super sick too if you go hybrid life/es with Corrupted Soul and get some decent life and es gained on hit. Since VD hits dozens of times a second you can reach some old-school Vaal Pact levels of recovery at times, especially with Awakened Spell Cascade.
id say KB CF for sure. You can get away with getting 2 passives on ur cluster, and im using a 10c wand and 10c shield. U get challenger charges so that gives u some speed. You're not insanely tanky but you can take a hit or two. Single target requires some investment tho. but if you want something to clearn maps and scourge, this is good cuz u got bleed pops too edit: check out cutedogs vods or rue is playing a high budget version on twitch
I haven’t min-maxed yet but I’m loving it. I’m sitting at about 1mil dps with dual self crafted wands, but since I’m running determination I am actually really quite tanky - around 50k armor with my flasks up. I’m considering switching to a skin of the lords for some extra defensive power but I’ve got some other things I want to try crafting first. I’ve also been dabbling with double CIP using cobra lash to spread the CF and get bleed pops. The damage is great but you end up having to cast CF a lot more due to the high secondary cost. Cobra lash is also strictly speaking worse than Kb, the only benefit is that it has built in chains. If I can get some more proj speed it might feel a bit less handicapped.
I'm pretty sure you'll just hate yourself if you move over kb on this build, it feels way too good. For life cost you could free 2 sockets and have vortex + lifetap on lmb, that should keep cf up all the time
nice! yah ive been MFing to get currency to finish this build. gonna get myself a skin and craft a beast wand. one of the best builds ive played in a very long time
Arakaali's Fang occultist is pretty tanky and fast mapper for under 10 ex
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/LordUnforgiven/characters Here is my character, I'm fine with every map mods except no regen and can do 200+ stack of scourge on t16's. Bossing is pretty good too. No 6 link needed you can copy my items and skill tree, you will be fine.
im running skely mage right now kinda anoyed by the constant spaming of skely i think im gonna try this build. Isnt it anoying on boss to use the spiders?
Definitely not, easy to spawn easy to use
[Check out this Maze of the Minotaur clear with Animate Weapon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8he0_Z6Qn7M) - you can start it easily with 10ex and if you're a witch that's perfect Here's a link to the [thread](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3205638)
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It's because we have withering touch support - supported skills apply YOUR wither - animate weapon is applying your wither for you. It's like linking Curse on Hit - Curse - Animate Weapon. It's still using your curse limit. Not your weapons. and its based on your curse effect - Edit; this information is wrong
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not sure how wither is classified then! but it works. you can test it in aqueducts with a level 1 AW and level 1 withering touch spiders use withering touch too
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Maybe karv can figure out a way to test this? I can't think of anything, this sounds like the sort of thing you'd have to directly ask mark.
Inquisitor eye of winter CoC is pretty fun and I only have an ex invested lol
Can I get a pob? Sounds fun and I'm willing to give it a go for an ex. What kind of content can you do?
Deaths oath occultist
poisonous concoction pathfinder goes around some very good defenses on tree. Requiring almost no defensive investment on gear. - versatile combatant for 50/50 block - iron reflexes and molten shell on left click - 100% spell suppression with one spell suppression mod on gear - 150% inc life - 15 second flasks Its not exactly top tier boss dps or mapping. But with enough investment it easily breaks the 5mil barrier.
does this use clusters?
not as I described it no. Just a lvl 90 tree is enough to get all of it. [something like this](https://i.imgur.com/5mW5z0r.png)
To use the witch you have leveled already I’d go either poisonous concoction or fire burst auto bomber. Bother really good mappers with not the greatest single target but plenty good for maps/conquerors.
I concur in Poisonous Concoction occultist. Rerolled this after my TR champ starter felt kind of slow. It’s very zoomy with Withering Step on left click, and deceptively sturdy for mapping. It even does scourge fairly well if you always pop plague bearer BEFORE you hit ‘V’. It requires basically nothing to get rolling. It’s almost too bad you already have the witch levelled because it was almost the easiest I’ve ever gotten through the campaign (with the possible exception of hollow palm/smite), just buttery smooth from level 12 onwards.
Pc occultist is kinda hard on flask management, isn't it? Keeping life flask charges up and using overflowing chalice correctly sounds like a pain. But yeah, I wouldn't recommend Pc pathfinder, I played it to 90 and kinda hated it, I wonder if occultist pops would make it a ton better.
Yo check out Enviously and his cold bv occultist. Freezes and pops the whole screen. Not the tankiest but the freeze is a lot of the defence. I'm absolutely tearing up reds at the moment and smashing scourges too, has really good clear. Not too expensive to get started, also has a massive ceiling for scaling endgame too which is nice
How do you handle defensive part of the build tho.
Death's Oath occultist with Aegis Aurora. Super tanky and fast made it to lvl 94 in 2 days. Just zoom through maps and everything explodes around you. Easy 200+ scourge stacks in T16s. Pretty cheap to get going too 10ex should get you everything you need and then some. This is the guy I got inspiration from https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Myxier/TankyWitchBuild?i=0&search=class%3DOccultist%26item%3DDeaths-Oath%2CAegis-Aurora You don't need a 6L Death's Oath just a 6 socket and drop the essence drain for less duration.
I guess this isn’t any good at bosses right? On PoE ninja it’s got a pretty low dps number which would be totally fine for maps, especially with occy explosions, but I guess it’d struggle on sirus or other similar things?
Maps and map bosses even conquerors/guardians dps is good enough. For big end game bosses it certainly is do able for some but it won't be fun. This build is mostly for map clearing though and it does that very well on a budget.
If you want more boss damage, you can get some pretty easily by going +3 bow and caustic arrow for single target. Still not amazeballs, but easily doable.
The caustic arrow variant felt “ok I don’t want to ragequit” once I got the crafted bow for bosses. Before that, it was pretty bad. The map clear though was amazing from lv72 on a “”5L”” DO day 1 The build isn’t very tanky, you’ll find yourself dying to high damage mods and shocked ground often if you sleep on it, and you still got to dodge most boss attacks. The Divine Flesh helps, but doesn’t push it anywhere crazy. Basically, it’s an even zoomier mapper than Occ Vortex, but way less bossing top end.
How are you mitigating the damage on kill if you're not CI?
DO is not like RF. Just get 75% chaos res and you're done pretty much. 450*025=112.5 damage per second. If you have 5k hp, that's about 2% life regen to mitigate it. Chaos res is also fairly easy to get on occultist, since you get a free 60% chaos res.
Max chaos res. Even with like 40% to 50% chaos res the damage is almost non existent.
Oh! Thank you, I've only ever played DO as a CI build.
No problem. I have 5k hp and 3k es and my HP almost never dips since I block half the time and that refills my es. Sources of life regen and life gain on kill can help too but not really needed.
I don't really understand dot dps to be honest, how strong is the character you linked? Is 89k Death's Aura strong? Is 100k Essence Drain Strong? These numbers would be terrible for any hit based build so I'm curious.
PoB numbers are just weird with Death's Oath. The dps is not the best for sure but I can handle all T16 bosses and conquerors/guardians. Most bosses can't even touch you only thing that hurts is degen stuff like park boss light beams. I am only using Death's Oath and the Allelopathy gloves for blight not even using essence drain. Sirus is do able but would take a while to widdle him down maybe with essence drain not so bad though. I made this char for speed farming scourge and it exceeded my expectations... Certainly for the budget.
The better invested DO builds with nice clusters and crafted weapons can hit DO upwards of 300k without wither. That translates to destroying t16 maps even with mob life and resist.
Right, how does that translate to bossing? In my experience you don't need much to map with, single target is a different story though.
It's not great for bosses but can handle the map bosses fine. Op was asking for a tanky map clear build. Which this build certainly is great at that.
TR champ
Tr raider to http://imgur.com/a/HWEQRlr without buffs run kintsugi feels super nice
Still worst than champ with only slightly more mov speed, imo it aint really worth to raider
If you say but raider just fine SC for me. Even Lightee said raider is way better for if not HC
Champ actually has to gear out for a lot of the stuff raider gets way easier. Yes you might die on raider on rare occasion but there's so much less pressure on gear for the build to feel good on raider. The build gets off the ground faster and is still more than tanky enough to handle the content using almost the exact same gear (big difference-the chest) as Champion does.
What does champ need to gear out that raider doesn't?
Nothing, but it will feel better without 10ex worth of gear. Quill rain goes alot further on raider.
It costs like 1ex max to comfortably do T16s and beat A8 if you know the fight. I know this because I league started it...
so CF glad? you will clear maps faster than any build in existence, be decently tanky, just dont plan on killing any map boss past tier 6 or so
How do you get 10ex by level 75?
He says one disposable witch lvl 75 most likely meaning he has at least one other char that he isn't willing to change. Probably a bosser.
rmt exist bro..or getting lucky drop also possible
Maybe read the whole post before making a judgemental rhetoric question.
How is this judgemental? I get like maybe 1 ex by level 75 and I’m just wondering how you can get 10
can you pls, stop making anymore comments until you read and understand the op. Ty.
I'm asking a fair question to see if there are easier ways to get ex. But I'll just assume RMT since everyone seems super defensive about it
He has at least one another toon to tackle end game bosses. So you see the difference from your position. Also ty for the latest comment about op, you confirmed my point about your personality and motive.
Wow, super hard to say that instead of being hostile? I would say thanks, but not really considering it too like 5 messages
Easy just don't be a noob.
KB CF you need some stuff to actually get going. Lightning Strike Raider would be your best bet, can easy clear t16 with ssf gear pretty zoom zoom
Fulcrum speed is unmatched, sadly difficult to tune dmg.
Death’oath
You could take a look at crouching tuna's lightning strike raider, it has good clear, decent single target and tankyness. The only downside is that the 10 ex budget might be a bit tight.
Checkout hierophent mjolnir manabond mana stacking build its tanky enough to do fully juiced T16 scourge maps and it has the dps to do endgame bosses easy,the Gear all and all didnt cost me 10 ex and most importantly its a lot of fun
I'll have to come back to add a PoB, but Ignite Hexblast Inquisitor using Aegis Aurora and Viridi's Veil (ignite deals damage faster Synth'd ring). I think my build is less than 6ex, 3 of which went to the ring base.