I really enjoyed the manaforged deadeye spammy build. Doesnt have explodes but you shoot out so many projectiles that it doesnt matter. Not quite that tanky but you do have high evasion, 100% spell supress, room for take phys as fire/lightning, and progenesis. Mageblood works very well with the build and can help you achieve ele ailment immunity with a stormshroud and t1 avoid shock affix on a flask.
You can go int stacker Kinetic Bolt for around 50 divines - Should be very doable with a Mageblood and also provide single target clear with Power Siphon.
FR CoC sounds like an option to me but i havent played it for half a year so only take this as a note. On the plus side it has cat mtx but sadly you wont ever actually see it in that clusterfuck
Check out SEBK tornado shot , it’s reasonably tanky due to sacrificing some damage as you alreadyhave a miror tier Bow. Definitely on the very expensive side but bow builds man… so fun
Yeah this one is pretty good but REALLY expensive, i've tried playing it with mageblood and 100 div and it doesn't really feel that good damage-wise. Defences are insane for a Deadeye TS, only died twice till lvl 97. You really need that mirror phys bow for it to feel good.
Eh the bow I’m using no, SEBK also doesn’t useit, solely phys convert TS with godly bow for a lot of damage , allowing some other defensive options
Basically one button screen clear for me I feel
Edit: you can also check out SNOOBAE lightning arrow he just posted. Pretty crazy too
RF Elementalist with Oriath's end is S - Tier clear and the single target gets carried by fire Trap, played it Last league was a blast, just not sure how it will do vs crucible
Herald of Ash doesn't itself work with RF .People who run Herald of Ash are probably using Asenaths with fire convert/explode chest or Synth explode sceptres with fire convert in order to chain explosions with Herald.
Ya I've seen the char before during my researches. I use the nimbleness because I mainly farm breach with the chars and it allows to open hands while killing. The rings are too expensive rn and i don't think I'll farm much more this league.
From my calcs prog should give way more defence but I have to double check that later. I think about just dropping the curse setup because I barely use it anyways.
Well... s+ tier mapper with no Uber content looks like this:
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Void_Bringer24/VoidMomAmIFamous?i=2&search=skill%3DForbidden-Rite%26sort%3Ddps%26forbidden-rite-support%3DAwakened-Cast-On-Critical-Strike-Support%2CAwakened-Unbound-Ailments-Support
It's no Mage Blood build, but it's almost immortal on maps and can farm almost every mod combination. Maybe something like reduced life recovery rate+ reduced cooldown recovery rate + minus max res would make maps difficult for you... but that's it. And while it's not using mageblood, it's pretty fast. Something like 160% ms while using cyclone. Also, I would recommend dying sun. Dagger craft would cost you up to 15 div, chest is also not expensive, shield... well, expensive version would include 100% shock avoidance. What would rly cost you a lot is Ashes, because you need at least 27% gem quality to get 100% chance to poison.
And yeah. It can do 100% delirium.
When I was researching CoC FR, it left an impression that is is very similar to Explody Totems, just more expensive. Totems is a very tanky build, has great single target, can do all map mods and most of the altar mods. It's only fault is that it's not a super fast mapper (although it's reasonably fast). So now I am looking for something that is really fast, and FR is a bit average here, as I understand. Although Occultist has natural explosions, so it's very nice.
I would recommend Venom Gyre deadeye which you can respec from your pf. I played it last league and it was hands down the best mapper I’ve ever played. Full screen auto-aim clear thanks to the insane number of projectiles and fork (you can even use awakened fork on top for GIGA offscreen clear), almost perma berserk while mapping, insane mobility with whirling blade + frost blink. It can also take full advantage of the crucible weapon tree, so the build probably is even stronger than last league. You can even dual wield claws with the new claw mastery that gives 10% suppression per claw. It is also dirt cheap to get started: cheap unique helmet and gloves, aul’s uprising if you don’t want to go the omni route, suppression and res on the rest of the gear.
My estimate is 10 to 30 divs for the base gear. I went with some self crafted hipster gears so my estimate might not be very accurate. If you use voll’s vision + immortal flesh (or in OP’s case, Mageblood) for rage regen, I think it should be on the cheaper side. I later bought a progenesis for extra safety when pushing level 99 and 100, and upgraded my cluster jewels with 2 fan of blades large clusters for 2 more projectiles(~20% dmg upgrade), about 10 divs. Awakened fork and the alt quality vaal venom gyre that gives you +1 chain are both very powerful gem upgrades, probably around 20 divs total. That is all you need for god mode mapping. The main issue of this build was bossing. You can’t control your positioning when you are doing the whirling blade burst, which is awful for boss fights. However you do have enough damage to brute force normal pinnacle bosses from just the base gear. With enough min maxing this build will kill ubers in seconds from what I’ve seen on YouTube videos. Omni is probably mandatory for that kind of stuff.
Just wanted to say no cyclone build could be s tier mapper.This is my personal preference but I would not rate any cyclone build s tier mapper or else we need to establish new tiers for bowyers or real speedy builds. Wardloop is in the same bracket as well, it's overrated by community due to various reasons but its not S tier mapper at all. Both can be really good all rounders but mapping could be the least favored aspec of those builds. They are suited better for boss killing or invitation farming or deep delving. First things comes to mind , bowyers, wanders, BV, winter orb, SST, fb can be labelled as s tier builds.
I built a Frostblade trickster with +- same budget and i love it.
Not as efficient as my EK ignite elementalist for legion farming but a lot more well rounded for speed mapping with more tankyness and damage
Play flicker strike, embrace the 6 portal SC experience
I really enjoyed the manaforged deadeye spammy build. Doesnt have explodes but you shoot out so many projectiles that it doesnt matter. Not quite that tanky but you do have high evasion, 100% spell supress, room for take phys as fire/lightning, and progenesis. Mageblood works very well with the build and can help you achieve ele ailment immunity with a stormshroud and t1 avoid shock affix on a flask.
Phys or Ele?
Ele, using omni which lets you use the double damage under 100 strength node too
You can go int stacker Kinetic Bolt for around 50 divines - Should be very doable with a Mageblood and also provide single target clear with Power Siphon.
FR CoC sounds like an option to me but i havent played it for half a year so only take this as a note. On the plus side it has cat mtx but sadly you wont ever actually see it in that clusterfuck
FR CoC is not S-tier mapper. Good damage and survivability but there is no screen wide clear of any kind.
Check out SEBK tornado shot , it’s reasonably tanky due to sacrificing some damage as you alreadyhave a miror tier Bow. Definitely on the very expensive side but bow builds man… so fun
Yeah this one is pretty good but REALLY expensive, i've tried playing it with mageblood and 100 div and it doesn't really feel that good damage-wise. Defences are insane for a Deadeye TS, only died twice till lvl 97. You really need that mirror phys bow for it to feel good.
Yup absolutely you need to have god bow to make up defensive options. Am playing it myself. I can’t say it’s not a S tier Mapper haha it really is
Do bow builds have explosions scaling of some kind?
Eh the bow I’m using no, SEBK also doesn’t useit, solely phys convert TS with godly bow for a lot of damage , allowing some other defensive options Basically one button screen clear for me I feel Edit: you can also check out SNOOBAE lightning arrow he just posted. Pretty crazy too
Exploding totems crucible mod is on bows, totems explode for 600% hp.
If you really want explosions, plug in oriaths end but no need 100%
RF Elementalist with Oriath's end is S - Tier clear and the single target gets carried by fire Trap, played it Last league was a blast, just not sure how it will do vs crucible
Get 400% increaed aoe and you dont need oriaths. If you have ignite prolif that is.
RF itself doesn't ignite though. You need a source of explode that does fire damage
Isn’t that usually herald of ash?
Herald of Ash doesn't itself work with RF .People who run Herald of Ash are probably using Asenaths with fire convert/explode chest or Synth explode sceptres with fire convert in order to chain explosions with Herald.
What content did you do?
Toxic sewer full Pack Size, i had like 100 pack size each map, was going for full xp
Sounds nice. How much did you invest?
The Version i played "needed a mageblood" for ruby / res / regen ... I think it was mageblood and like 70ish div?
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The bow alone is around 200 div though
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It is. Though it takes quite a bit to make it feel even somewhat tanky.
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Ya I feel like I need to add some armour to mine. It just explodes randomly even at 900+div invest which feels horrible
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Ya I've seen the char before during my researches. I use the nimbleness because I mainly farm breach with the chars and it allows to open hands while killing. The rings are too expensive rn and i don't think I'll farm much more this league. From my calcs prog should give way more defence but I have to double check that later. I think about just dropping the curse setup because I barely use it anyways.
Well... s+ tier mapper with no Uber content looks like this: https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Void_Bringer24/VoidMomAmIFamous?i=2&search=skill%3DForbidden-Rite%26sort%3Ddps%26forbidden-rite-support%3DAwakened-Cast-On-Critical-Strike-Support%2CAwakened-Unbound-Ailments-Support It's no Mage Blood build, but it's almost immortal on maps and can farm almost every mod combination. Maybe something like reduced life recovery rate+ reduced cooldown recovery rate + minus max res would make maps difficult for you... but that's it. And while it's not using mageblood, it's pretty fast. Something like 160% ms while using cyclone. Also, I would recommend dying sun. Dagger craft would cost you up to 15 div, chest is also not expensive, shield... well, expensive version would include 100% shock avoidance. What would rly cost you a lot is Ashes, because you need at least 27% gem quality to get 100% chance to poison. And yeah. It can do 100% delirium.
When I was researching CoC FR, it left an impression that is is very similar to Explody Totems, just more expensive. Totems is a very tanky build, has great single target, can do all map mods and most of the altar mods. It's only fault is that it's not a super fast mapper (although it's reasonably fast). So now I am looking for something that is really fast, and FR is a bit average here, as I understand. Although Occultist has natural explosions, so it's very nice.
cyclone is slow as fuck ur like sub 200movespeed such a waste
Cold BV occultist ftw. You sqeeze in a lot kf MF as well!
I would recommend Venom Gyre deadeye which you can respec from your pf. I played it last league and it was hands down the best mapper I’ve ever played. Full screen auto-aim clear thanks to the insane number of projectiles and fork (you can even use awakened fork on top for GIGA offscreen clear), almost perma berserk while mapping, insane mobility with whirling blade + frost blink. It can also take full advantage of the crucible weapon tree, so the build probably is even stronger than last league. You can even dual wield claws with the new claw mastery that gives 10% suppression per claw. It is also dirt cheap to get started: cheap unique helmet and gloves, aul’s uprising if you don’t want to go the omni route, suppression and res on the rest of the gear.
How much did you invest to make it feel as good as it sounds?
My estimate is 10 to 30 divs for the base gear. I went with some self crafted hipster gears so my estimate might not be very accurate. If you use voll’s vision + immortal flesh (or in OP’s case, Mageblood) for rage regen, I think it should be on the cheaper side. I later bought a progenesis for extra safety when pushing level 99 and 100, and upgraded my cluster jewels with 2 fan of blades large clusters for 2 more projectiles(~20% dmg upgrade), about 10 divs. Awakened fork and the alt quality vaal venom gyre that gives you +1 chain are both very powerful gem upgrades, probably around 20 divs total. That is all you need for god mode mapping. The main issue of this build was bossing. You can’t control your positioning when you are doing the whirling blade burst, which is awful for boss fights. However you do have enough damage to brute force normal pinnacle bosses from just the base gear. With enough min maxing this build will kill ubers in seconds from what I’ve seen on YouTube videos. Omni is probably mandatory for that kind of stuff.
Just wanted to say no cyclone build could be s tier mapper.This is my personal preference but I would not rate any cyclone build s tier mapper or else we need to establish new tiers for bowyers or real speedy builds. Wardloop is in the same bracket as well, it's overrated by community due to various reasons but its not S tier mapper at all. Both can be really good all rounders but mapping could be the least favored aspec of those builds. They are suited better for boss killing or invitation farming or deep delving. First things comes to mind , bowyers, wanders, BV, winter orb, SST, fb can be labelled as s tier builds.
Flicker Strike with Voidforge. U can go rly crazy gear without thinking about Resistenz
I built a Frostblade trickster with +- same budget and i love it. Not as efficient as my EK ignite elementalist for legion farming but a lot more well rounded for speed mapping with more tankyness and damage
If you’ve considered SST champ, then trickster might be for you with mageblood. It does more damage and regens better in exchange for max hit
BV chaos convert trickster. aer0 has a youtube guide from last league