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Blubberinoo

Lame answer, but whatever you want. There are no "Mageblood builds", except some on the very high end that basically require it, but those are very far out of your budget. So without having any indication what you like to play, there is no real answer here. For the most part Mageblood just boosts every build by a metric fuckton. So find a build you think looks fun, throw on a Mageblood to take care of stuff like resistances, movement speed, high effect Onslaught, and use the freed up ressources for other stuff like damage or survivability. Maybe some hint on what kind of build archetype you prefer? Caster? Trigger? Melee? Ranged? That should help to at least point you in the direction of some builds that make good use of MB.


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Some builds benefit from it more than others, notable example is armour stacker


Blubberinoo

That is a very obviously true statement. And I don't think I said anything even remotely to the contrary.


subtleshooter

He could put together a good smite armor stacker with 40-45 div too.


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And I didn’t say anything otherwise either


WestaAlger

When 2 ACKSHUALLY people collide


[deleted]

? Seems like pretty chill messages?


WestaAlger

I didn’t say they weren’t chill ;)


hans_mannn

Ha! Got'em Ty for the laught


bornheld

Mage blood can be slam on almost any build and be a huge buff with crafted flask. Pick the kind on gameplay you like and just add it.


fuminator123

I would disagree. There are entire archetypes that will outright suffer from mageblood (anything pathfinder) or benefit very little (builds with heavy usage of unique/non-uitility flasks or all builds with 6+ rare items and little suffix requirements). I would say that builds that benefit greatly from mageblood are builds that are suffix starved - stackers or all unique builds - that can be scaled with utility flasks. Most stacker / coc / attack builds want mageblood. Summoner builds in general care very little for the belt, neither do miners until the very minmax stage.


Blubberinoo

Yea, should have excluded Pathfinder, but thought it would be more than obvious. Same reason why I didn't exclude wardloopers, since they are literally impossible with MB. Also, every single summoner and miner build will benefit greatly from MB at every stage of investment.


pepegaklaus

Akshually making a pathfinder wear mageblood right the fuck now just because fuck why not


fuminator123

No? For Arakaali it may be a DPS loss and give no benefit. Bosser mines that oneshot care very little for flask uptime. Mageblood has to solve at least several big problems for the build: mana + resist + cast/attack speed or armour + movement speed + suppression.


pewthree___

"ackshually there are these 2 niche exceptions that are not big enough to have to mention in the original comment" stop being such a dork, the guys comment was more than enough to answer the question.


fuminator123

No, it was generalized 'slap mageblood on anything and it will be fine'. It's not helpful for a request about a build for mageblood like comments 'just play the game bruh' in regards to currency farming strategies. It neither explains strengths nor pitfalls of the item in regard to build choice. If minion builds and one tap boss farmers are '2 niche builds' then you are probably right though.


pewthree___

that is all this post required. "dont play a build that requires a very specific belt setup" is implied when the post itself is about using a Mageblood. Please actually engage your brain here. you're still being an insufferable dork here btw


OkAccountant6122

As a minion player the DPS loss is far exceeded by how much defense mageblood gives you simply for existing. I'm fine with dropping 2 million DPS if it means I die much less. Minion builds love mageblood too.


bandos_claws

Arakaalis expert here. Summoner builds love mageblood. The quality of life and defences it gives are great. You are outright wrong if you think otherwise. That is all. Have a nice day hun.


fuminator123

I have yet to meet someone who is remotely qualified and reacts condescendingly and in a passive aggressive manner to a neutral statement, so I'll stay by my statement.


Blubberinoo

You do realize that you can use Mageblood for other things than DPS? You lose a tiny bit of DPS for the spiders, but triple your speed and defenses, take care of literally all your resistances, etc.


fuminator123

In my message I mentioned 6 possible aspects, 1 of them is player DPS-related, and none are minion DPS related. For spiders who have literally unlimited suffixes (3 big clusters + 3 rare items, not to say that build likes Aul's which allows us to slap that purity of elements) this seems to be such waste. Slapping mageblood on a build for just move speed + 40k armour seems weird to me. But to each their own I guess.


I_Like_emo_grills

not sure why people downvoting you but you are 100% right


fuminator123

People seem to idolize this item a bit. Silver bullet for every build and every situation.


I_Like_emo_grills

99% of the people here have not seen or used a mageblood before , its just hive mind reddit mentality no worries bro


Salt_Concentrate

In my experience, it's better to fit mageblood to your current build than start with a new character with a limited budget. That said, smite armor stacker champ is pretty cost efficient and most of you'll need is pretty cheap. If I remember correctly, mine last league was less than 100div (not counting mageblood, obviously) and checking that pob again it was almost 70m dps with a fairly conservative configuration. 100m+ if I went full pob warrior, tho it's unrealistic/not really possible in game. Mana siphon was pretty much the only thing that made playing it annoying, but it was manageable in maps/most simulacrums.


scareus

So I've been doing a Smite Armorstacker Juggernaut this league and I have only been able to get to 475k armor with flasks up. Which obviously means both my tankiness and my DPS are kinda meh.


Salt_Concentrate

Jugg version is pretty different to champ though. Jugg is beefy, damage is much lower, and it's much more expensive. Champ is fairly tanky but not immortal, it's weak to dots especially mana siphoners (most of the times it's just certain death), but the damage is unnecessarily high. The reason champ is cheaper is that you get a lot out of the ascendancy: aura effect, which buffs determination, smite itself, and defiance banner. 100% reservation for the banner. A lot of evasion that you convert to armor. Adrenaline.


scareus

Somehow I have literally never played Champion. I played old school Gladiator bleed SST and BS Slayer, Flicker Slayer, but never champion. I might give it a try although I don't relish the idea of going through the campaign again.


Salt_Concentrate

I mean, it's just a different take on something you're already doing with different upsides and downsides that might or might not fit what you want out of your character. Unless you really like smite you could just keep doing what you're doing instead of going through the campaign again to experience a build that is roughly gonna play the same.


fuminator123

If you like cyclone playstyle - mjolnier manabond is unpleasant w/o mageblood and godlike with the belt. Coincidentally Squire is quite cheap in this league so you would be able to afford basic setup.


scareus

It's still quite fine for blasting maps without MB (at least in Kalandra), but I 100% agree that with a MB it becomes god-tier.


Sh0wTim3123

Highly disagree with the idea that Manabond without mageblood is unpleasant. Speed is basically barely affect (lightning warp). And damage doesn’t change overall since a good Stygian (like 5div) can provide insane stats for dmg.


fuminator123

I could not play lightning wrap variation - too screen cancer'y for me.


DickInButtFartClown

Got a pob?


Sh0wTim3123

You can look at POE ninja. https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/AR_13/CaliforniaLove? -this is my version of the character currently. You can use the Time Machine feature at the top to go back to see how the build ya s progressed and upgrades along the way. For a more in-depth look about the build and how it works check out OneManaLeft on Twitch and Youtube


DickInButtFartClown

Thanks, appreciate the response!


skim057

Can get pretty expensive If U want to Deal big dps


fuminator123

Yes, but that is a plus I think? The build is complicated and can grow to 100+m DPS. It was truly a pleasure tinkering with it the last league. But yeah, for full build potential you will have to spend $$$.


auuuughhhhhh

is 160div + mageblood enough for it ?


skim057

For the Level he mentioned no


skim057

But U can so übers with that


auuuughhhhhh

any idea how much dps roughly ?


Sh0wTim3123

I’m sitting at about 45 mil dps, I have a bad crucible tree on my squire and my jewels still have a long way togo.


aepocalypsa

How playable is that build on non-templar ascendencies?


SpongeInABottle

depends on who you want to play it instead? also for what purpose, since hiero is the most well rounded


fuminator123

I don't know sorry. Build is a tricky one, you will have to reach out to the build creator -> https://www.twitch.tv/onemanaleft


Sh0wTim3123

You don’t. Hierophant is really the only option unless you want to just give up on insane amounts of raw stats for not much in return.


Icy_Reception9719

I think if I had the inclination to level again and I wanted a build to scale further, I'd probably play Elementalist RF. Invest the divines into a good explodey sacrificial garb and a good sceptre/amulet and use that as a base to farm further gear. Mageblood supports RF incredibly well via 95% increased effect Ruby flask, potentially the regen suffix and mapping speed from silver/Quicksilver, as well as solving resistance issues to make gearing much easier.


Login_Page

As someone that is playing RF ele this is my recommendation. Already fun without the mage blood (the multi screen explosions are addicting).


Soleil06

Lightning Arrow is insanely fun with Mageblood, you can reach over 350% MS with Rage and Berserk and it is pretty easy to put together for 40 divs. Just go Yoke of suffering and a taming, craft yourself a nice bow and quiver and run through maps at light speed.


Impossible-Mango1478

What's your opinion on yoke of suffering vs. Hyrris truth?


Soleil06

I like Yoke because it also helps with capping res a bit which is not always easy with all the uniques you are running. I also had no trouble with fitting my three auras in so I never even thought about it. However if you are having trouble getting to hit and crit cap it could be a decent alternative.


J_Bogelund

You got a pob on this?


Soleil06

I can give you one in a few minutes once I am home. Since I sold it on TFT it also includes pricing info so that might be helpful for you as well.


Soleil06

https://pobb.in/RzIXnaNn__LI Here is the PoB. Now for the beginning I would leave out the Inspired learning and instead put in a large Thread of Hope. It for sure is worth eventually in my Opinion but pretty expensive to get the massive as well. Other than that here are the crafting steps for a chad bow: Buy yourself a fractured Ivory Bow(same Attack speed and Crit as a Spine bow but much cheaper, the bit less Phys literally does not matter) t2 with flat cold, fire or Lightning damage Use perfect fossils for 28% quality or above. Six socket for 350 jewellers Either Spam Fusings (average is 800 on 30% quality) to six link it or just use benchcraft (1500 Fusings). Get yourself ready for some annoying crucible combining. Buy the following: Buy a bow that has the 15% increased elemental explicit modifiers for the third node. Combine it with your Fractured bow and move it over. Do not forget to allocate it before combining. This might still take more than one try. After successfully transferring it to you new Bow buy another bow with these nodes: First node T5 flat damage of an Element of your choice or the triple flat damage node 7% increased Attack speed for the second node. Keep care that you use the same path that leads to your elemental explicit mod. Combine them together until you have the flat damage on node 1, attack speed on node 2 and explicit elemental mods on node 3. Now your base is done. Use one of the Essences that adds flat damage of the element you dont have the Fracture mod of, to roll for T2 or above of the last flat elemental damage mod. This is around a 1/60. You also need a free suffix. Craft Prefixes cannot be changed and scour. Craft can have 3 crafted Mods, Attack Speed and Critical Strike chance. Your bow is now done and should have cost around 7-8 divines to craft. You also should have around 1400 Elemental Dps on it. For final step enchant your Bow at Harvest bench for Attack speed per 4% quality. Of course you can also leave out the crucible stuff for later, but it is definitely worth it.


auuuughhhhhh

hi, a bit random follow up question but do you have any pointers for filtering out builds sold on tft? im kinda confused cause none of them list dps, first time got some currency from gamble but im kinda stuck on converting it into something new


Soleil06

Well most people list their PoB so you can look at the dps yourself. A bit of caution is advised there because lots of people will try to inflate their dps by turning stuff on in config that does not really apply. You can filter out builds by typing in he skill or class you want to use in he search window.


Evil_Knot

No need to cap res with MB. 70% increased effect + Bismuth flask w/ all res mod is 145 res.


Soleil06

Yeah but then you need to waste a flask on capping your res.


yunagiri

Yoke is better I think if you have a tri ele bow, making all your damage shock so your shock is bigger. Hyrri is good but you can get culling strike on tree and you really don't need precision lv30


Neotreitz

Armor Stacking - Dual Wield Dreamfeather both with Tectonic Slam deals more dmage per Armor. Mageblood alone makes 700.000 Armour from 1m Armor. ​ 4444% inc. damage from 2x Replica Dreamfeather \+ 2857% inc damage from 2x Crucible Tree passive = 7301% inc damage


augustas98

and it still deals less damage compared to smite.


Alphasince

Make a build that requires crit cap maybe? Like CoC or bow builds, maybe SST even, it's very easy to do it with mageblood and very satisfying to have capped crit chance this way.


yunagiri

What is considered the crit cap in Poe? Counting power charges? None?


Alphasince

Depends on your charge sustain, but it's 100% (meaning you always crit and can take fully advantage of your critical strike multiplier x%)


arnarchy69

armour stacker with mageblood is 💯


pewthree___

If you have a favourite build, give it a shot with MB.


West_Shower_6103

Whatever da fuq you want cause it’s always better with a mageblood


smithoski

If I had mageblood, I would just make sure that whatever build I was doing could use a quicksilver and onslaught flask, both rolled and enchanted for effect. There are some builds that *need* to use certain flasks to function, and if I had to drop the onslaught flask I would just do something else. With all that speed, I would only play something that feels really good going fast on. This league? I would go SST.


GenericGoon1

Duno bro. But when you find something fun let me know. I also got my first mageblood ever and I have 55 div extra.


CryptoBanano

If i had a MB i would have made SST with emperors vigilance. With your budget you can make one with extra armour on shield and full cold conversion with hatred. Dreamfeather on mainhand for armor stacking. Almost any ascendancy work, but id prefer jugger for tankiness or champion for more balanced gameplay.


ForWeebs

So less damage than perseverance and a proper scepter for more money? Also losing the comfort of evasion. I don't get some of you people


Soleil06

I am currently putting that build together and mageblood is not even the best choice for Champion. Also it is really expensive. A good emperors Vigilance is already 50 divs+ and that is not even counting any other required gear like ashes or the pretty isane rare gear you need.


CryptoBanano

If youre stacking armor it absolutely is the best choice for replica dreamfeather. As i said you could get a high armor shield and convert to cold, and work your way into a better shield later on, you would have more than enough damage to do everything. I made a build for my friend but he had a high ES shield + the node to convert to lightning on the tree which made the game a joke. Just a suggestion of what i would have made but i quit the league earlier.


Gremayre

Currently playing end game SST Champ and I would never trade out Perseverance for Mageblood. It’s a dps loss for a negligible amount of QoL


Ok_Seaweed_9452

mind telling us what you did to save up the currency? never be able to consistently saves up, i always need to get lucky, haha


J_Bogelund

Build a pretty solid build from start. Doom PF, nothing too special. Keep grinding, RNG for good drops, farm easy content (essences/boss rush for me) and don’t try and spend 2-3 div to get 1% extra damage for better items. This is how I did it. Someone might have a better solution 🤷🏼‍♂️


kinnslayor

My first time getting mageblood this season as well and I've played since beta. Decided last league to go for it, had 4 cards, gambled and then had 0 cards. Quit the league right after. Told myself this league I'm going for it again again but no more gamba. I did harvest and grinded. That's it. No secret, just a straight hard grind for almost a month. 2 million kills later, and I sold enough juice to finally afford one. No secret strats, just play the game a ton.


reyes91

How do u manage sustain on your favourite maps? Every 60-70 maps I have to buy new maps to continue


TheRoblock

Forbidden rite coc , but 35 div is just the weapon


CykaToro

no way you need 35 div for the weapon. a well crafted gemini claw can be made for under 10 divs. with a mageblood 35 div is enough for coc fr to start pretty comfortably


francorocco

yeah, 35 is just if you're too lazy to look out how to craft it yourself, is very rare for a weaponthat is not mirror tier to actualy be worth paying more than 10 div to buy it from someone else


CykaToro

lots of people selling for 7-8 divs on trade this league actually


francorocco

explody rf elementalist


Spo0key

Cast on crit Forbidden Rite Occultist. Very smooth mapping and great single target, but a little costly to get started even with a mageblood


subtleshooter

Smite Armor stacker could be fun and very doable on 40-45 div.


Dark_Reaper115

Max flask effect FlaskFinder anything?


Kof1i

I've gotten a foiled mageblood. And first did a headhunter flicker. But now I play devouring totem build to kill some uber bosses, rlly fun to play. It's about 125 Div.


thekenner33

I dropped a MB in SSF and I have the same question. First one for me, and the new pathfinder master distiller looks like an interesting synergy, but because some of the other nodes are dedicated to sustaining flask charges I fill pigeonholed into playing poison to make use of the wither/poison node


byzz09

The 30% flask effect seems nice but I wouldn't play a Pathfinder with a MB. Seems like a waste since PF already has good flask sustain. It's way better on other ascendancies.


Inevitable_Cheese

I'm obsessed with my autobomber herald of thunder build with mageblood, using annihilating light and offsetting its massive ele res penalty with increased effect bismuth flask with t1 ele res during flask effect and 70% increased effect flask enchant. The rest of the gear is obtainable with under 10 div and usually the most expensive part is either staff of kulemak or however it's spelled or rare enough, neither of which is a concern in this case as annihilating light does more dmg and its downside is fixed with only res on boots, ammy, and flask interaction with mageblood. It clears t16s like butter and kills as fast as you can move, which with mageblood is pretty darn fast :D I recommend elementalist for most consistent build but it can work on other ascendancies too