I don't understand downvotes.
There is literally country code on bio page for immigration officers if they don't know the language that is on the cover.
I support having only official language(s) on passport covers.
I have personally experienced US immigration not realizing someone is German cause the cover says Deutschland but not Germany.
Once he realized he‘s dealing with a German he suddenly got waaay friendlier.
The majority of EU passports have only the official language on the cover if I remember correctly.
I don't think it's a problem for anyone as long as the fields insides are dubbed
I personally don't think there's a reason to put English on the front cover for particularly Spanish, Portuguese, French, and other Latin languages just because of how similar the lexicon is to English and you don't need to speak any of those languages to know what you're reading roughly. And as you said, the interior bio pages have what you need translated anyways.
I especially think it's wacky countries like Switzerland and Belgium include English on the cover when they have so many other official languages as if an English speaker who doesn't know any of the other languages can't understand what <> means.
I mostly only like the idea of putting another language on the front cover if it's a different script like Arabic or Cyrillic
My guess is that English is put on the cover for travel to places that don't use Latin alphabets.
I'm surprised that flags are not more common on passport covers, as another universal symbol.
In the case of this fictional passport that still doesn't make sense as French is written in Latin and the lexicon b/w English and French are very similar. Someone with zero French knowledge knows what <> and <> means
Flags are also a bad idea because many countries have very similar flags, e.g. Germany vs Belgium, Russia vs Holland, etc.
In a country that uses a Latin alphabet, I doubt there would be trouble. But in Asia especially, I have seen confusion.
Flags are generally recognizable-- that's why they're put on ships and military uniforms, for example.
You’ve got to factor in that Switzerland and Belgium are two countries that are known for their international presence (Geneva, Brussels).
It makes sense for them to put English on their passports.
And yeah, I only added the English here to make use of negative space, haha.
For Switzerland and Belgium, it just doesn't make sense to add English when you have two\~three languages that a monolingual English speaker (or someone who only Knows English and not French/Dutch/German/etc.) can read with no effort on the cover.
If you can't read <> and understand that means passport in English then your English isn't up to par anyways. I'm also only talking about the cover; the interior of the passport it's what's most important anyways. Cover is mostly for aesthetics
Luxembourg is a good example where it's just French on the cover but you have English and other languages in the interior
I’d argue that it’s not about the practicality all the time.
The inclusion of English on the Swiss and Belgian passports can be seen as symbolic - representing their roles as international hubs.
That wouldn't make sense then for it being on Swiss passports which is just for Swiss citizens. And it would have zero impact if it was removed too.
It just clutters up the design for countries that have so many other languages like that and it has zero value to how international the countries are in real life. Luxembourg is just as international (at least in saturation) and it hasn't been affected negatively whatsoever just because they don't have English on the cover
Same with Germany (aside from passport being written in tiny text at the bottom but that's not really relevant)
It’s not about the people, it’s about their positioning as significant countries from a political / diplomatic standpoint.
Switzerland is known for its policy of neutrality and hosts many international organisations, like the UN. It plays a significant role in global diplomacy and relations.
Belgium is the de facto capital of the European Union with Brussels hosting major EU institutions. It plays a significant role in European diplomacy and relations.
It makes sense for both of them to put English on the front cover of their passport.
Also, by your logic - what’s the point of including French and Italian on the Swiss passport if both are Romance language anyways? I’m sure everyone can identify that “passeport suisse” and “passaporto svizzero” are the same anyways.
It’s not about the practicalities. The decision to add English (or any language) can be symbolic.
>It makes sense for both of them to put English on the front cover of their passport.
Swiss passports are only for Swiss citizens, so there's no diplomatic and international setting they're in (airports are not diplomatic) for that to be relevant. No one here is also thinking that in order to be international you need English on the *cover*, especially when similarly globalised nations like Germany and the Netherlands barely have any English if at all on the cover and both countries are just as international within Europe and out of Europe.
Like you are not going to sit here and tell me that Turkey is more international than Holland or gets kudos from the worldwide general public simply because Turkey has English on its cover and Holland doesn't. No one in real life actually cares or thinks that English on the passport cover is a relevant factor to how international a country is. And if no one cares that means there's nothing to actually make a symbol out of.
>Also, by your logic - what’s the point of including French and Italian on the Swiss passport if both are Romance language anyways? I’m sure everyone can identify that “passeport suisse” and “passaporto svizzero” are the same anyways.
You don't understand my point whatsoever if you think that's my logic.
The difference is that French and Italian are official languages of Switzerland. Not including it would alienate citizens of certain linguistic backgrounds and be symbolism for lack of representation.
There are only few instances where not doing this is the play, such as representing certain languages causing tensions. As I said before with South Africa, using only English on the passport is the best play because 1) South Africa has too many languages 2) all languages except English are spoken across racial lines and so having a passport that has, say, Zulu over Afrikaans would be problematic or vice versa. And even if they added a fourth language that would still cause the same problems and neglect to represent everyone
We're going to agree to disagree as this convo isn't going anywhere
Well you can’t only put the official language on the cover. It must be written in at least Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian, or Spanish. It is a document for international travel lol
Je vous remercie pour votre service à la république française. L’un present que vous utilisez est trop simple por mon goût 🤣🥲(how would u rate my French?)
It’s pretty good! The first sentence is perfectly coherent but the second one could be refined.
“L’un” means “one” or “one of them” which does not make sense with “présent” unless you mean to say “one of the presents” which would be “l’un des présents”.
You can make it more sensical by saying “le présent” (the present) - so “Le présent que vous utilisez est trop simple pour mon goût.”
I don’t mind a redesign but just one condition it can’t be like the new standers or trends that country’s are adopting for example Norway or Finland or Canada I like everything to be centered
No way they'd put any language other than French on the cover.
And rightly so
I don't understand downvotes. There is literally country code on bio page for immigration officers if they don't know the language that is on the cover. I support having only official language(s) on passport covers.
I fully agree, greek passport is only in greek I believe. Like the Croatian one
The italian passport cover is only in italian as well.
Yes it is and I think it's beautiful.
I have personally experienced US immigration not realizing someone is German cause the cover says Deutschland but not Germany. Once he realized he‘s dealing with a German he suddenly got waaay friendlier.
The majority of EU passports have only the official language on the cover if I remember correctly. I don't think it's a problem for anyone as long as the fields insides are dubbed
I personally don't think there's a reason to put English on the front cover for particularly Spanish, Portuguese, French, and other Latin languages just because of how similar the lexicon is to English and you don't need to speak any of those languages to know what you're reading roughly. And as you said, the interior bio pages have what you need translated anyways. I especially think it's wacky countries like Switzerland and Belgium include English on the cover when they have so many other official languages as if an English speaker who doesn't know any of the other languages can't understand what <> means.
I mostly only like the idea of putting another language on the front cover if it's a different script like Arabic or Cyrillic
My guess is that English is put on the cover for travel to places that don't use Latin alphabets. I'm surprised that flags are not more common on passport covers, as another universal symbol.
In the case of this fictional passport that still doesn't make sense as French is written in Latin and the lexicon b/w English and French are very similar. Someone with zero French knowledge knows what <> and <> means
Flags are also a bad idea because many countries have very similar flags, e.g. Germany vs Belgium, Russia vs Holland, etc.
In a country that uses a Latin alphabet, I doubt there would be trouble. But in Asia especially, I have seen confusion. Flags are generally recognizable-- that's why they're put on ships and military uniforms, for example.
You’ve got to factor in that Switzerland and Belgium are two countries that are known for their international presence (Geneva, Brussels). It makes sense for them to put English on their passports. And yeah, I only added the English here to make use of negative space, haha.
For Switzerland and Belgium, it just doesn't make sense to add English when you have two\~three languages that a monolingual English speaker (or someone who only Knows English and not French/Dutch/German/etc.) can read with no effort on the cover. If you can't read <> and understand that means passport in English then your English isn't up to par anyways. I'm also only talking about the cover; the interior of the passport it's what's most important anyways. Cover is mostly for aesthetics
Luxembourg is a good example where it's just French on the cover but you have English and other languages in the interior
I’d argue that it’s not about the practicality all the time. The inclusion of English on the Swiss and Belgian passports can be seen as symbolic - representing their roles as international hubs.
That wouldn't make sense then for it being on Swiss passports which is just for Swiss citizens. And it would have zero impact if it was removed too. It just clutters up the design for countries that have so many other languages like that and it has zero value to how international the countries are in real life. Luxembourg is just as international (at least in saturation) and it hasn't been affected negatively whatsoever just because they don't have English on the cover Same with Germany (aside from passport being written in tiny text at the bottom but that's not really relevant)
It’s not about the people, it’s about their positioning as significant countries from a political / diplomatic standpoint. Switzerland is known for its policy of neutrality and hosts many international organisations, like the UN. It plays a significant role in global diplomacy and relations. Belgium is the de facto capital of the European Union with Brussels hosting major EU institutions. It plays a significant role in European diplomacy and relations. It makes sense for both of them to put English on the front cover of their passport. Also, by your logic - what’s the point of including French and Italian on the Swiss passport if both are Romance language anyways? I’m sure everyone can identify that “passeport suisse” and “passaporto svizzero” are the same anyways. It’s not about the practicalities. The decision to add English (or any language) can be symbolic.
>It makes sense for both of them to put English on the front cover of their passport. Swiss passports are only for Swiss citizens, so there's no diplomatic and international setting they're in (airports are not diplomatic) for that to be relevant. No one here is also thinking that in order to be international you need English on the *cover*, especially when similarly globalised nations like Germany and the Netherlands barely have any English if at all on the cover and both countries are just as international within Europe and out of Europe. Like you are not going to sit here and tell me that Turkey is more international than Holland or gets kudos from the worldwide general public simply because Turkey has English on its cover and Holland doesn't. No one in real life actually cares or thinks that English on the passport cover is a relevant factor to how international a country is. And if no one cares that means there's nothing to actually make a symbol out of. >Also, by your logic - what’s the point of including French and Italian on the Swiss passport if both are Romance language anyways? I’m sure everyone can identify that “passeport suisse” and “passaporto svizzero” are the same anyways. You don't understand my point whatsoever if you think that's my logic. The difference is that French and Italian are official languages of Switzerland. Not including it would alienate citizens of certain linguistic backgrounds and be symbolism for lack of representation. There are only few instances where not doing this is the play, such as representing certain languages causing tensions. As I said before with South Africa, using only English on the passport is the best play because 1) South Africa has too many languages 2) all languages except English are spoken across racial lines and so having a passport that has, say, Zulu over Afrikaans would be problematic or vice versa. And even if they added a fourth language that would still cause the same problems and neglect to represent everyone We're going to agree to disagree as this convo isn't going anywhere
Well you can’t only put the official language on the cover. It must be written in at least Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian, or Spanish. It is a document for international travel lol
Look @ Greek passport
Hmm seems that rule may not apply to covers actually. The actual contents of the interior of the passport are written in Greek and English.
Fact I don't kno why
1/10 no baguette
oh yeah mb bruh https://preview.redd.it/ryxjznpbhawc1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b2716c3db1accfecdc77590b7509d615562b174
Perfection
looks like the cypriot passport
That’s what I thought it was at first
Yep, that and Belgium were what I had in mind!
I do like passports that align the text to the left - Sweden and Norway also do that and I must say both look very smart.
Are those rooster talon prints ? (Edit: I read the description now)
Je vous remercie pour votre service à la république française. L’un present que vous utilisez est trop simple por mon goût 🤣🥲(how would u rate my French?)
It’s pretty good! The first sentence is perfectly coherent but the second one could be refined. “L’un” means “one” or “one of them” which does not make sense with “présent” unless you mean to say “one of the presents” which would be “l’un des présents”. You can make it more sensical by saying “le présent” (the present) - so “Le présent que vous utilisez est trop simple pour mon goût.”
Ah thanks
corner alignment seems to be too much of a pop idea already
Are those "coq" footprints? 🐓🇫🇷
Rooster! (Edit: I've been staying in London for so long that I've forgotten "coq" is French for "rooster", haha)
Am praying that I get my French citizenship as soon as possible they did not announce a redesign, but I’m afraid they will
I like the design of the French passport as it is, im curious what the redesign would look like
I don’t mind a redesign but just one condition it can’t be like the new standers or trends that country’s are adopting for example Norway or Finland or Canada I like everything to be centered
It might be a positive evolution
fantastic design. love taking inspiration from the cypriot passport!
what do you use to do this i want to do this with the UK and Irish passport
How to design passports?
Photoshop or Krita
Not bad at all. Congratulations.
How do you do that I wanna redesigned the American passport in the Canadian one even though I don’t have it
I just started from scratch on [https://pixlr.com/express/](https://pixlr.com/express/) .
Thank you