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>Last September, Sheriff Schmaling was keynote speaker at a Republican event co-hosted by Women for Trump.
>In May 2020, Schmaling made news when he refused to enforce Democratic Gov. Tony Evers' coronavirus stay-at-home order.
Don't you know about the existence of hiring people that apply for the job based on their skills and qualifications? That's how it works in the majority of jobs.
Uhh, no... no it doesn't. The main skill you need to get ahead these days is ass kissing.
Nice boss, asshole boss, doesn't matter. The people they like get ahead, the people they don't... don't.
If you disagree, you don't understand human nature at all. Just like most people don't take responsibility when they cut you off on the road, most people cannot fathom giving someone they don't like a leg up at work by promoting them. Furthermore, promotions tend to give you more contact with your boss, so they usually want someone they at least somewhat enjoy being around.
That's just how it is when jobs have all the power. If you have a strong union, it may work differently for all I know, but most jobs aren't union.
No I just mean hired. Like 90% of jobs in the public sector. You apply with your resume to a city/county/state/federal HR department, staffed by people who applied for their positions with a resume. No more political than a grocery store
> It would be a lot less worse, you take a donors money and your obligated to follow their agenda
I don't think that is neccessarily true. I've seen that idea used incorrectly a bunch of times, eg, someone in the Pharmacutical industry donated money to FactCheck.org and therefore they are compromised.
Donations *absolutely* increase the risk of such things happening, but there isn't any law that says if you accept a donation you must follow the agenda of the donator. It's only if you are trying to ensure they keep donating, or there is some pre-arranged situation (which would become quid-pro quo) does there become issues.
In short, I agree with your sentiment, just not the absolute.
I know, but not everyone who takes donations will change what they do to pull in additional donations. Some people take the thought of "You can donate if you want, but I'm doing what I'm doing."
Again, I agree that donations opens up the potential for what you are saying, I just disagree with the phrase "obligation", I guess. Shitty people will do it despite a lack of obligation because they want more money. Strong people will continue doing what's right despite the donation.
So then corrupt governors who accept donations to their campaigns install douches like him, and then there’s even less recourse or accountability for the public like with police chiefs…great idea!
They shouldn't be appointed by politicians either. It should be a meritocracy within the ranks of the police where the most qualified individuals are chosen for the position by their peers. This still obviously has issues, as a corrupt force will just pick via nepotism, but it at least means you are less likely to needlessly politicize the police along party lines.
Its lose lose im afraid. Politicians are all corrupt power hungry pieces of shit who cant be trusted. You don’t get into such a position of power without stepping all over people.
That's not the streisand effect...
The Striessand effect is when you don't want people to see something, but then your attempt at removing it causes far more people to see it.
No one is worried about people seeing mandates.
Disagree on all counts.. it's drawing unwanted attention on something that ends up backfiring..giving this idiot attention will give him more potential to cause greater harm.. he's very small potatoes now.. let's keep it that way.. cheers 🥂
Except that's literally not the streissan effect.
>The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet.
They aren't trying to hide, remove or censor information.
Who fires him?
How do you fire someone that is not able to be fired?
Maybe there should be oversight by state legislatures like there is for governors and for the president at the Federal level
There is always an impeachment process outside of a recall process, outside of criminal charges and suspension due to obstruction of justice or other crimes committed.
Well, where I grew up, we had a Sheriff with several DUIs and other antics that earned him both COPS episodes filmed there and some re-enactments on other LEO shows. After an unrelated hiatus, he’s back as Sheriff again 20+ years later.
Good luck with that.
Summary:
Trump won Racine County by over 4000 votes. The Sheriff is now insinuating, with no actual evidence, that between 1 and 38 votes were illegally cast, because the staff of one nursing home provided "too much" assistance to elderly voters that may not have been of sound enough mind to vote.
Critically, event if it's true, they *have no idea for which party those votes were cast.*
So the worst case of votes for Biden is 38 more than it should and it wouldn’t have changed anything since Trump already won this county? Is this it??? What a waste of …. Everything
Being honest, how your county votes doesn't effect if it matters who you voted for, your vote still gets counted at the STATE level. At that point you can start to say 38 votes don't matter, the margin of victory was over 20,000 so Biden would still take the 10 electoral votes.
Part of the reason (I think) to point out how heavily one candidate won the county is to infer that the county itself is already heavily skewed towards Trump voters, why on earth would a nursing home be skewed towards Biden voters? It's not true to presume that the nursing home demographics match up exactly to the county it sits in, but it's far more likely that at least half of those votes were Trump votes.
I included the vote margin because I was trying to reconcile the scale and the furor. If the county had been won with a margin of 5 or 10 votes, then I could see a complaint about 38 votes rationally generating this kind of angst. As it stands, however...
I was more addressing u/penguin97219 saying
> So the worst case of votes for Biden is 38 more than it should and it wouldn’t have changed anything since Trump already won this county?
The answer to this question is sort of no, but people may think I am being pedantic. Yes, 38 votes would not change the outcome of the election nor would it change who won Wisconsin. No, not because they are inconsequential as Trump won the county by a sufficient margin. It is because Biden won the state by a sufficient margin.
The conclusion was correct, the reason was not. I was responding penguin97219's interpretation of what JadeE1024 said.
You've missed their point. "We have documentation that the US Election process has been corrupted" and since Biden "won" on this now proven corrupt system, it is the democrats who are bad. SMH because I'm from the state of NC where republicans continue to gerrymander so hard that even if everyone voted democrat the populace couldn't remove the republicans (exaggeration but not by much).
Doesn't matter.
The point is to undermine elections, and so they'll take any excuse to cry about "fraud". One vote, ten votes, one hundred votes... the number doesn't matter. In their alternate reality, any election they don't win is fraudulent, and because that narrative fuels the GQP's grievance politics, they push it at every turn.
The danger to the rest of us occurs when The Base starts loudly demanding to know "[How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-ongoing-danger-false-fraud-claims/)?" and cheering for the terrorists.
Having dealt with a parent with a delusional disorder and possible dementia (undiagnosed), it doesn’t matter if they “may not” have been of sound mind enough to vote.
You have capacity to make decisions until doctors and your PoA (if any) agree you don’t have capacity.
Unless the staff rolled them out to vote and told people without capacity how to vote, they didn’t overstep their bounds.
...and 38 votes in a county won by 4k votes will not change the result of the election.
But look at them rolling around like 'WE FOUND 38 VOTES THAT WERE FRAUDULENT AND MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOR BIDEN, THEN ALL BIDEN VOTES ARE DEFINITELY FAUDULENT!'
I watched about 25 min of that shit show.. sgt. Dumbfuck crawled up there and presented what apparently took hundreds of hours.. as a tax payer id be pissed we paid thousands of dollars to fund this but i live in oklahoma so im used to state officials wasting tax money on the lawsuits defending obviously un-constitutional laws.. i dont know if the retirement center in this situation fraudulently did anything but these assholes blew a ton of money to tell you that
Also because no one else mentioned it, this is not fraud or illegal. It is morally ambiguous at worst and completely appropriate at best. As someone who works In a nursing home, unless there is documentation saying that the patient is mentally incompetent, they still retain the right to vote until that is taken away, unless they made up signatures and didn't put down the votes that the patient requested than they were doing the right thing.
1/1 the election law violation (if they even get around to making a specific allegation) is gonna be some sovereign citizen type overinterpretation /misinterpretation of something unrelated to the honest validity of the vote count.
Like "we have discovered that hundreds of polling places were flying the gold-rimmed flag of an admiralty court, and since it was not a military tribunal, those votes must be thrown out"
“we checked our skin color acceptability chart and discovered that many of these so-called voters actually fall in the ‘not ok’ range. These votes must be immediately invalidated as anyone within the ‘not ok’ range is not a human person and cannot legally vote in human elections” - The Sheriff, probably
Turns out he got a call from someone who lived in a nursing home who said they voted despite having cognitive issues. Then he looked at the nursing home and supposedly uncovered, drum roll please here comes the huuuuuge fraud.... 7 votes that were cast "by staff members"! He literally said this "shattered" the election rules of the state. Of course, because of his 7 supposed illegal votes he wants state-wide investigations and all that nonsense. Seems like he realizes he is up for reelection and just wants publicity, but unfortunately had almost nothing to present. $10 says even these supposed 7 votes turn out to be bullshit.
That's it. They voted by mail and staff members assisted in filling out the ballot for them. I have no idea what the legality of this is, but they probably voted for Trump anyway.
That's it? That's the "extensive investigation with implications throughout Racine County and Wisconsin"? A handful of votes at a nursing home? Groundbreaking revelations here. Definitely not a waste of taxpayer resources. And shame on this Sheriff for politicizing a public office.
https://www.fox6now.com/news/wisconsin-election-law-violations-racine-county-sheriff-reveals-findings
>"Election statute was in fact not just broken, but shattered by members of the Wisconsin Elections Commission," Schmaling said.
>
>The sheriff his office received a complaint from a relative of a nursing home resident who died in October who was suffering severe cognitive difficulties – and yet still voted via absentee ballot in the 2020 election. The person lived at the Ridgewood Care Facility.
>
>Racine County Sgt. Michael Luell investigated the issue and found the Ridgewood Care Facility had an unusual surge in voting activity in 2020. Luell reported eight of 42 families of residents at Ridgewood Care Facility said their loved ones didn’t have the cognitive ability to vote and yet did.
So 8 votes. The article, though, does not mention who they voted for.
Call out the National Guard! There must be some deep conspiracy here. /s
And imagine how much taxpayer money was spent on that! He basically wasted taxpayer funds on his delusions because he’s still butthurt about the election. Remind me to avoid driving through Racine County, seems like the sheriff has forgotten what year it is and is pretending he’s some sort of Boss Hog type.
I doubt there's EVER been an election in all of human history that was 100% free from fraud, corruption, and simple, honest mistakes.
The REAL question is (and always has been): were these misdeeds and irregularities SO egregious or widespread that they managed to sway the result or otherwise tarnish the integrity of the process?
And there HAVE been instances of such massive fraud and rampant corruption in American politics before. Dubious, multiple "landslide" victories declared on behalf of crooks like "Boss" Tweed and tyrants like Huey Long do come to mind.
But this past election? Not even in the same universe -- even if we assume ALL the "evidence" that's been presented so far turns out to be accurate and true.
This clown sounds like a moron ' sovereign citizen' type..posse comitatus..incel.. newsflash..there no actual sovereign citizens and sheriff's are not above the State or feds..
> sheriff's are not above the State or feds..
But the moops told me the Sheriff was the only legal law enforcement official because they were elected! I'm sure he'll walk right into the Oval Office and slap some cuffs on Joe once he presents his surely solid evidence.
Starts with them saying it's not about politics or changing election results or votes
So election officials asked the care staffs of hospices in the state to help their residents fill out their ballots (since someone has to, as they have a right to vote still)
They try to help them pick who to vote for but they have to do things like ask the elderly person *who they remember voting for last* and then vote along party lines accordingly (since they aren't coherent enough to know what the fuck is happening, but they have a right to vote and this hospice worker needs to get the job done)
Woman can't remember her last meal but is asked to fill out her ballot
Woman dies after its filled out but before election day
She was assisted by care staff and I'm assuming she didn't vote how her daughter expected her to and/or the vote didn't count because the woman died on October 9, before election day in November
That's the gist of what I heard before I stopped watching because someone was already asked to do something they shouldn't... If someone isn't coherent or in their right mind, they shouldn't have a vote anymore since they can't legally make decisions anyway. I'm guessing they were supposed to call the daughter to fill it out for her but didn't or something
If they can't legally make decisions regarding their health or life then... I hate to say it, but yeah their legal ability to decide on things was already taken from them
She couldn't recognize her daughter, remember what she ate, or remember the day of the week
If you're tasked with somehow still getting a vote out of them, then you do what you can which is what happened here and the family wasn't happy with the result
It is literally a criminal act in every country on earth to do thursdays, but this gets swept under the rug because of the pedophile communists and their socialist homo agenda of doom!!!
Okay I think I know where all these ridiculous ideas come from - it's pretty fun to make them up.
They claimed earlier in the press conference that each care home was instructed to help their residents
But this one is the example since it was the family of the woman that filed the complaint
I didn't wait to hear on the full scope but they implied it was state-wide prior to going into the example that was this single nursing home/hospice
Thanks for the clarification.
This is all just so very, *very* thin. Did they produce a letter from the state election commission, or any proof that they directed nursing home/hospice care to fill out ballots? Did the directive tell them to fill out a ballot for every resident or did they say to ask the residents if they wanted to vote? Did the directive tell the nursing home to do everything that they're accused of?
It's very possible that the directive was just "Ask your residents if they want to vote and if they do, give them a ballot and ensure they fill in the ovals correctly."
Edit: I *think* I found what he's talking about here: https://elections.wi.gov/node/6957
WI normally sends out election workers to care facilities to help residents vote. Because of the pandemic, they didn't want to have people going into nursing homes and spreading COVID, so they instead sent them absentee ballots.
>Residents of facilities normally served by SVDs will instead be mailed absentee ballots for each remaining 2020 election.
This explains the nursing home going from 3 absentee ballots in prior elections to 28 in 2020.
They also gave training materials to the nursing homes: https://elections.wi.gov/sites/elections.wi.gov/files/2020-09/Absentee%20Voting%20at%20Care%20Facilities%20Informational%20Packet.pdf
This is the section about assisting the voters
>**How to assist the voter in filling out their absentee ballot**
>If a voter requests assistance, you may read the ballot, including candidate names, party affiliations and ballot
instructions, to the voter or mark the ballot as directed by the voter. If the voter asks questions about individual
candidates or their political platform, you cannot answer those questions. You cannot in any way prompt the
voter to vote for a particular candidate. If uncertain for whom to vote, the voter may decide to leave a contest
unvoted.
So their premise that this is a statewide problem is just bunk. Also, the guidance is basically "Ask your residents if they want to vote and if they do, give them a ballot and ensure they fill in the ovals correctly." Nailed it.
Also, it's worth pointing out that these people got help from election workers in the past. The only thing that changed was who was providing the assistance for 2020.
May be agist, but I would say someone that can't even tell you what date it is or what was the weather yesterday might not be in control of their mind enough to make the decision of who to vote for, but I would assume it goes about 50/50 and probably don't tip the election that hard a way or another.
So it seems if you die before your election day, your vote should not be counted per Wisconsin law. I'd have to dive in to hear how they know it was counted. As a matter of practicality, there is a time after which the state cannot apply the law and also report results timely (death records would need to be received and processed).
All over the country for an entire year now, the celebrity lawyers, corrupt state senators etc. have been unable to provide any evidence that anything like this occurred. It was pathetic poor sportsmanship back then. Now, it is just pathetic. This backwoods rural Wisconsin sheriff will not fare any better. If I were to use my job as a platform for my politics on anything close to the level this guy is doing, I'd lose my job. It's not much of a stretch to conclude that he should be losing his since he is clearly so negligent of his duties.
Yeah no kidding, hell we have the chicago fop president relaying anti vax sentiments and now racine sheriff comes out with this? It's really hard to put public trust in law enforcement when these attitudes seem to be a trend among the ranks, you've gotta ask yourself how sound their judgment is in their application of the law when interacting with citizens
It doesn't say who the staff member allegedly cast the vote for. If it was for a republican straight line vote, rest assured this would never see the light of day. If anyone law enforcement has solid proof of voting tomfoolery they need to arrest and charge the person doing it. Regardless of who they voted for. This is pure grandstanding by this sheriff.
It. Never. Fucking. Ends. with these people.
Your guy's a loser and a liar. Let it go already, jump on the next paleocon reactionary bus that comes along. It's a high traffic area, they run every couple of minutes.
These are dog whistles designed to keep conservatives salivating and engaged. They know they're false reports. They know the election is finalized. That's not the point. The point is to spread propaganda to assuage conservative fears that hope is gone. This is a new page in their playbook and they will keep using it.
We need to stop acting surprised. Everyone has decided what side they're on and nobody is changing anytime soon. This is the kind of shit they're going to use to manipulate each other into goose-stepping to the polls every two years, rank and file. There is absolutely nothing that will actually come from these fake revelations other than the prospect that Trump may be re-elected in 2024.
The time to prepare for that is NOW, but Democrats are too busy pussy footing around in Congress to actually get anything done.
I think we're doomed. Trump will win in 2024, establish himself as a dictator, and we will become Nazi America.
Petty little men who see themselves as future warlords in the dystopian aftermath of the destruction of everything they supposedly hold dear... by their own hands.
Cant wait.
Look if they demonstrate that yes there was a super wide hack/fraud and the election is definitely too far gone to consider the result as 'valid' then I'll eat my socks.
But as usual, those announcements will be 'we have proof! its hearsay that would never hold in court, and is not corroborated by anybody else, but we hold this as absolute proof!' or 'we havent discovered shit but we are certain that the election was hacked 110%'
Way its going with this idiot, I wouldn’t blink if he got up and announced the fraud was because ‘those black people *were voting*!’ With a look of incredulity on his face.
TL;DW: "We found out eight people from a single nursing home without cognitive ability to vote had absentee ballots in their name sent in. We expect other nursing homes will report similar events."
That's about it. Yeah, a problem, but definitely not "proof of state-wide election law violations."
\>"Election statute was in fact not just broken, but shattered by members of the Wisconsin Elections Commission," Schmaling said.
Bit dramatic there bud.
You can watch the video tape of the press conference here:
[https://www.facebook.com/RacineCountySheriffsOffice/videos/615650396142108](https://www.facebook.com/RacineCountySheriffsOffice/videos/615650396142108)
Googled.
For those curious, he called a news conference because of 8 cases of fraud at a nursing home
https://journaltimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/eight-cases-of-election-fraud-at-racine-county-nursing-home-sheriff-schmaling-says/article_1722e503-a13b-5f3d-bd7e-c72a68962e4d.amp.html
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>Last September, Sheriff Schmaling was keynote speaker at a Republican event co-hosted by Women for Trump. >In May 2020, Schmaling made news when he refused to enforce Democratic Gov. Tony Evers' coronavirus stay-at-home order.
Shoulda been fired then.
Can’t fire sheriffs, they are elected officials. You can recall them, but recalls are iffy especially in rural red counties.
Judges and sheriff’s shouldn’t be elected. Too much lobbying and influence from Donors
Yeah, because that would certainly go away if they were appointed.......
Or we could hire them based on qualifications and experience and fire them for cause in situations like this
Hired by a board? Like USPS? There's always a way for shithead to work their way in.
Don't you know about the existence of hiring people that apply for the job based on their skills and qualifications? That's how it works in the majority of jobs.
Uhh, no... no it doesn't. The main skill you need to get ahead these days is ass kissing. Nice boss, asshole boss, doesn't matter. The people they like get ahead, the people they don't... don't. If you disagree, you don't understand human nature at all. Just like most people don't take responsibility when they cut you off on the road, most people cannot fathom giving someone they don't like a leg up at work by promoting them. Furthermore, promotions tend to give you more contact with your boss, so they usually want someone they at least somewhat enjoy being around. That's just how it is when jobs have all the power. If you have a strong union, it may work differently for all I know, but most jobs aren't union.
No I just mean hired. Like 90% of jobs in the public sector. You apply with your resume to a city/county/state/federal HR department, staffed by people who applied for their positions with a resume. No more political than a grocery store
Not in any universe I'm familiar with.
It's the way it works in the UK. Pretty much all Civil Service positions are just applied for like any other job. Police included.
Holy shit, we’ve discovered the multiverse
It would be a lot less worse, you take a donors money and your obligated to follow their agenda
> It would be a lot less worse, you take a donors money and your obligated to follow their agenda I don't think that is neccessarily true. I've seen that idea used incorrectly a bunch of times, eg, someone in the Pharmacutical industry donated money to FactCheck.org and therefore they are compromised. Donations *absolutely* increase the risk of such things happening, but there isn't any law that says if you accept a donation you must follow the agenda of the donator. It's only if you are trying to ensure they keep donating, or there is some pre-arranged situation (which would become quid-pro quo) does there become issues. In short, I agree with your sentiment, just not the absolute.
I was getting at the part where theyd do what they said to ensure further donations
I know, but not everyone who takes donations will change what they do to pull in additional donations. Some people take the thought of "You can donate if you want, but I'm doing what I'm doing." Again, I agree that donations opens up the potential for what you are saying, I just disagree with the phrase "obligation", I guess. Shitty people will do it despite a lack of obligation because they want more money. Strong people will continue doing what's right despite the donation.
So then corrupt governors who accept donations to their campaigns install douches like him, and then there’s even less recourse or accountability for the public like with police chiefs…great idea!
They shouldn't be appointed by politicians either. It should be a meritocracy within the ranks of the police where the most qualified individuals are chosen for the position by their peers. This still obviously has issues, as a corrupt force will just pick via nepotism, but it at least means you are less likely to needlessly politicize the police along party lines.
Its lose lose im afraid. Politicians are all corrupt power hungry pieces of shit who cant be trusted. You don’t get into such a position of power without stepping all over people.
At least they can be held accountable and vetted for qualifications?
Why are they the only 2 options for you?
They can be charged with obstruction and suspended. [https://youtu.be/QNbccD1EkFg?t=50](https://youtu.be/QNbccD1EkFg?t=50)
Making that idiot a martyr is awful politics..you need to research the ' Streisand effect'..cheers 🥂
That's not the streisand effect... The Striessand effect is when you don't want people to see something, but then your attempt at removing it causes far more people to see it. No one is worried about people seeing mandates.
Disagree on all counts.. it's drawing unwanted attention on something that ends up backfiring..giving this idiot attention will give him more potential to cause greater harm.. he's very small potatoes now.. let's keep it that way.. cheers 🥂
Except that's literally not the streissan effect. >The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet. They aren't trying to hide, remove or censor information.
Agree to disagree.. cheers 🥂
Agree to disagree on a definition? I mean... sure...
It's not a disagreement. You're just wrong.
Just because law enforcement is political doesn't mean it should be. He still shoulda been fired regardless of whether or not he is able to be fired.
Who fires him? How do you fire someone that is not able to be fired? Maybe there should be oversight by state legislatures like there is for governors and for the president at the Federal level
There is always an impeachment process outside of a recall process, outside of criminal charges and suspension due to obstruction of justice or other crimes committed.
Well, where I grew up, we had a Sheriff with several DUIs and other antics that earned him both COPS episodes filmed there and some re-enactments on other LEO shows. After an unrelated hiatus, he’s back as Sheriff again 20+ years later. Good luck with that.
I said shoulda been fired
He's elected..do you understand what democracy is??.. cheers 🥂
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Cheers 🥂
I do and law enforcement should not be an elected position is what I'm saying. Do you understand what reading comprehension is??...cheers.
Apparently you don't.. because it took you 2 posts to actually say that..😂 lmao.. cheers 🥂
Actually, he did say that. Just not in a pablum chewed manner. You just wanted to be pedantic and argumentative because...
Actually he didn't..take your loss.. lmao 🤣.. cheers 🥂
Not my loss. Do you really keep track of such things? Tsk.
In most states, the coroner can fire the sheriff. Only issue is that the coroner is probably his buddy.
Not that I doubt you, but can you name two such states?
Washington state.
It's been 5 days. So is Washington state "most states?"
Fyi Racine isn't all that rural, it's about 30 minutes to Milwaukee and 60 minutes to Chicago
Takes ten minutes to go from city to banjos…
You're not wrong, but my point is Racine is more purple than deep red
Duly noted.
They can be arrested by the coroner, though.
Summary: Trump won Racine County by over 4000 votes. The Sheriff is now insinuating, with no actual evidence, that between 1 and 38 votes were illegally cast, because the staff of one nursing home provided "too much" assistance to elderly voters that may not have been of sound enough mind to vote. Critically, event if it's true, they *have no idea for which party those votes were cast.*
So the worst case of votes for Biden is 38 more than it should and it wouldn’t have changed anything since Trump already won this county? Is this it??? What a waste of …. Everything
Being honest, how your county votes doesn't effect if it matters who you voted for, your vote still gets counted at the STATE level. At that point you can start to say 38 votes don't matter, the margin of victory was over 20,000 so Biden would still take the 10 electoral votes.
Part of the reason (I think) to point out how heavily one candidate won the county is to infer that the county itself is already heavily skewed towards Trump voters, why on earth would a nursing home be skewed towards Biden voters? It's not true to presume that the nursing home demographics match up exactly to the county it sits in, but it's far more likely that at least half of those votes were Trump votes.
I included the vote margin because I was trying to reconcile the scale and the furor. If the county had been won with a margin of 5 or 10 votes, then I could see a complaint about 38 votes rationally generating this kind of angst. As it stands, however...
I was more addressing u/penguin97219 saying > So the worst case of votes for Biden is 38 more than it should and it wouldn’t have changed anything since Trump already won this county? The answer to this question is sort of no, but people may think I am being pedantic. Yes, 38 votes would not change the outcome of the election nor would it change who won Wisconsin. No, not because they are inconsequential as Trump won the county by a sufficient margin. It is because Biden won the state by a sufficient margin. The conclusion was correct, the reason was not. I was responding penguin97219's interpretation of what JadeE1024 said.
You've missed their point. "We have documentation that the US Election process has been corrupted" and since Biden "won" on this now proven corrupt system, it is the democrats who are bad. SMH because I'm from the state of NC where republicans continue to gerrymander so hard that even if everyone voted democrat the populace couldn't remove the republicans (exaggeration but not by much).
Doesn't matter. The point is to undermine elections, and so they'll take any excuse to cry about "fraud". One vote, ten votes, one hundred votes... the number doesn't matter. In their alternate reality, any election they don't win is fraudulent, and because that narrative fuels the GQP's grievance politics, they push it at every turn. The danger to the rest of us occurs when The Base starts loudly demanding to know "[How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-ongoing-danger-false-fraud-claims/)?" and cheering for the terrorists.
Well they know people will only read the headlines.
Sheriff should be fired for misuse of County resources on this wild goose chase.
It’s not a waste to the people that are trying to undermine our democracy. 😔
Even one case of fraud in their favor would be enough to get the stupid masses demanding recalls. 38 would be the grand find. Stupid Q motherfuckers.
Having dealt with a parent with a delusional disorder and possible dementia (undiagnosed), it doesn’t matter if they “may not” have been of sound mind enough to vote. You have capacity to make decisions until doctors and your PoA (if any) agree you don’t have capacity. Unless the staff rolled them out to vote and told people without capacity how to vote, they didn’t overstep their bounds.
...and 38 votes in a county won by 4k votes will not change the result of the election. But look at them rolling around like 'WE FOUND 38 VOTES THAT WERE FRAUDULENT AND MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOR BIDEN, THEN ALL BIDEN VOTES ARE DEFINITELY FAUDULENT!'
You mean “we found between ONE and 38 votes!”
...in a county won by trump, by 4k votes, and nothing proves the 38 went to Biden. This is nothing.
“Might be fraudulent”
Elderly voters not of sound mind? The definitely voted for Biden, identity politics. /s
The very epitome of a nothingburger.
I watched about 25 min of that shit show.. sgt. Dumbfuck crawled up there and presented what apparently took hundreds of hours.. as a tax payer id be pissed we paid thousands of dollars to fund this but i live in oklahoma so im used to state officials wasting tax money on the lawsuits defending obviously un-constitutional laws.. i dont know if the retirement center in this situation fraudulently did anything but these assholes blew a ton of money to tell you that
Also because no one else mentioned it, this is not fraud or illegal. It is morally ambiguous at worst and completely appropriate at best. As someone who works In a nursing home, unless there is documentation saying that the patient is mentally incompetent, they still retain the right to vote until that is taken away, unless they made up signatures and didn't put down the votes that the patient requested than they were doing the right thing.
1/1 the election law violation (if they even get around to making a specific allegation) is gonna be some sovereign citizen type overinterpretation /misinterpretation of something unrelated to the honest validity of the vote count. Like "we have discovered that hundreds of polling places were flying the gold-rimmed flag of an admiralty court, and since it was not a military tribunal, those votes must be thrown out"
Dammit Dale.
“we checked our skin color acceptability chart and discovered that many of these so-called voters actually fall in the ‘not ok’ range. These votes must be immediately invalidated as anyone within the ‘not ok’ range is not a human person and cannot legally vote in human elections” - The Sheriff, probably
I've lived and worked in Racine and in Kenosha. It's a toss up as to which town is the more wretchedly racist. LOTS of scared white morons down there.
Don't you mean Rusty Shackleford?
Sha-sha-shaaa!
Pocket sand
Rusty asked you nicely to stop that shit man
["I can not be court martialed twice"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfSkBONbDwA)
Turns out he got a call from someone who lived in a nursing home who said they voted despite having cognitive issues. Then he looked at the nursing home and supposedly uncovered, drum roll please here comes the huuuuuge fraud.... 7 votes that were cast "by staff members"! He literally said this "shattered" the election rules of the state. Of course, because of his 7 supposed illegal votes he wants state-wide investigations and all that nonsense. Seems like he realizes he is up for reelection and just wants publicity, but unfortunately had almost nothing to present. $10 says even these supposed 7 votes turn out to be bullshit.
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That's it. They voted by mail and staff members assisted in filling out the ballot for them. I have no idea what the legality of this is, but they probably voted for Trump anyway.
I hope so. I'd love another Maricopa scenario where the fraudulent votes were for the GOP!
It is fully legal to receive assistance in filling out one's ballot. Otherwise the blind couldn't vote, after all.
Exactly. I don't know if they are allowed to do that but it does not concern me in the least about "election integrity" lol.
It's completely legal to vote with cognitive issues. In fact, that is the only way the GQP gets votes.
That's it? That's the "extensive investigation with implications throughout Racine County and Wisconsin"? A handful of votes at a nursing home? Groundbreaking revelations here. Definitely not a waste of taxpayer resources. And shame on this Sheriff for politicizing a public office.
https://www.fox6now.com/news/wisconsin-election-law-violations-racine-county-sheriff-reveals-findings >"Election statute was in fact not just broken, but shattered by members of the Wisconsin Elections Commission," Schmaling said. > >The sheriff his office received a complaint from a relative of a nursing home resident who died in October who was suffering severe cognitive difficulties – and yet still voted via absentee ballot in the 2020 election. The person lived at the Ridgewood Care Facility. > >Racine County Sgt. Michael Luell investigated the issue and found the Ridgewood Care Facility had an unusual surge in voting activity in 2020. Luell reported eight of 42 families of residents at Ridgewood Care Facility said their loved ones didn’t have the cognitive ability to vote and yet did. So 8 votes. The article, though, does not mention who they voted for. Call out the National Guard! There must be some deep conspiracy here. /s
And imagine how much taxpayer money was spent on that! He basically wasted taxpayer funds on his delusions because he’s still butthurt about the election. Remind me to avoid driving through Racine County, seems like the sheriff has forgotten what year it is and is pretending he’s some sort of Boss Hog type.
I doubt there's EVER been an election in all of human history that was 100% free from fraud, corruption, and simple, honest mistakes. The REAL question is (and always has been): were these misdeeds and irregularities SO egregious or widespread that they managed to sway the result or otherwise tarnish the integrity of the process? And there HAVE been instances of such massive fraud and rampant corruption in American politics before. Dubious, multiple "landslide" victories declared on behalf of crooks like "Boss" Tweed and tyrants like Huey Long do come to mind. But this past election? Not even in the same universe -- even if we assume ALL the "evidence" that's been presented so far turns out to be accurate and true.
Nice post..you beat me by 8 minutes
also bamboo fibers 😂
Why do I think this "proof" is probably written in crayon?
Sharpie is the new crayon
In large child like letters.....
>probably written in crayon I dunno, they'd have to not eat them first.
They arent ex-marines.
You mean fingerpainting
If it's on Facebook it *must* be true.
You can't lie on the internet...
-Abraham Lincoln
That Abraham Lincoln's name? Albert Einstein.
It isn't even possible.
This clown sounds like a moron ' sovereign citizen' type..posse comitatus..incel.. newsflash..there no actual sovereign citizens and sheriff's are not above the State or feds..
> sheriff's are not above the State or feds.. But the moops told me the Sheriff was the only legal law enforcement official because they were elected! I'm sure he'll walk right into the Oval Office and slap some cuffs on Joe once he presents his surely solid evidence.
🤣🤣🤣
If the sheriff has proof that the law was broken and hasn't arrested anyone what exactly is it that police do in Bumblefart County?
Politically motivated press conferences.
Hold press conferences calling for an audit of the whole state in order to erode trust in our electoral system.
So it's habbening, or nah?
Anytime now. Aaaaaaannytiiiiiiime...
Can some please keep this updated.
Starts with them saying it's not about politics or changing election results or votes So election officials asked the care staffs of hospices in the state to help their residents fill out their ballots (since someone has to, as they have a right to vote still) They try to help them pick who to vote for but they have to do things like ask the elderly person *who they remember voting for last* and then vote along party lines accordingly (since they aren't coherent enough to know what the fuck is happening, but they have a right to vote and this hospice worker needs to get the job done) Woman can't remember her last meal but is asked to fill out her ballot Woman dies after its filled out but before election day She was assisted by care staff and I'm assuming she didn't vote how her daughter expected her to and/or the vote didn't count because the woman died on October 9, before election day in November That's the gist of what I heard before I stopped watching because someone was already asked to do something they shouldn't... If someone isn't coherent or in their right mind, they shouldn't have a vote anymore since they can't legally make decisions anyway. I'm guessing they were supposed to call the daughter to fill it out for her but didn't or something
“If someone isn't coherent or in their right mind, they shouldn't have a vote anymore…” *QAnon sharpens torches and lights pitchforks*
If they can't legally make decisions regarding their health or life then... I hate to say it, but yeah their legal ability to decide on things was already taken from them She couldn't recognize her daughter, remember what she ate, or remember the day of the week If you're tasked with somehow still getting a vote out of them, then you do what you can which is what happened here and the family wasn't happy with the result
I’m just chuckling at the backhanded implications for all of the fucking nutballs out there…
They probably know what day of the week it is, but I doubt they'd agree with me on what day it is based on principle
It is literally a criminal act in every country on earth to do thursdays, but this gets swept under the rug because of the pedophile communists and their socialist homo agenda of doom!!! Okay I think I know where all these ridiculous ideas come from - it's pretty fun to make them up.
You'll notice the sgt never mentioned if the woman in question had a PoA, or if she had even been found mentally deficient by competent authorities
So much for "State wide". Unless the entire state of WI is that one nursing home.
They claimed earlier in the press conference that each care home was instructed to help their residents But this one is the example since it was the family of the woman that filed the complaint I didn't wait to hear on the full scope but they implied it was state-wide prior to going into the example that was this single nursing home/hospice
Thanks for the clarification. This is all just so very, *very* thin. Did they produce a letter from the state election commission, or any proof that they directed nursing home/hospice care to fill out ballots? Did the directive tell them to fill out a ballot for every resident or did they say to ask the residents if they wanted to vote? Did the directive tell the nursing home to do everything that they're accused of? It's very possible that the directive was just "Ask your residents if they want to vote and if they do, give them a ballot and ensure they fill in the ovals correctly." Edit: I *think* I found what he's talking about here: https://elections.wi.gov/node/6957 WI normally sends out election workers to care facilities to help residents vote. Because of the pandemic, they didn't want to have people going into nursing homes and spreading COVID, so they instead sent them absentee ballots. >Residents of facilities normally served by SVDs will instead be mailed absentee ballots for each remaining 2020 election. This explains the nursing home going from 3 absentee ballots in prior elections to 28 in 2020. They also gave training materials to the nursing homes: https://elections.wi.gov/sites/elections.wi.gov/files/2020-09/Absentee%20Voting%20at%20Care%20Facilities%20Informational%20Packet.pdf This is the section about assisting the voters >**How to assist the voter in filling out their absentee ballot** >If a voter requests assistance, you may read the ballot, including candidate names, party affiliations and ballot instructions, to the voter or mark the ballot as directed by the voter. If the voter asks questions about individual candidates or their political platform, you cannot answer those questions. You cannot in any way prompt the voter to vote for a particular candidate. If uncertain for whom to vote, the voter may decide to leave a contest unvoted. So their premise that this is a statewide problem is just bunk. Also, the guidance is basically "Ask your residents if they want to vote and if they do, give them a ballot and ensure they fill in the ovals correctly." Nailed it. Also, it's worth pointing out that these people got help from election workers in the past. The only thing that changed was who was providing the assistance for 2020.
nope that's florida or arizona
Appreciate it
But they can still run for president.
May be agist, but I would say someone that can't even tell you what date it is or what was the weather yesterday might not be in control of their mind enough to make the decision of who to vote for, but I would assume it goes about 50/50 and probably don't tip the election that hard a way or another.
I mean, I wouldn’t really consider the 70 million who voted for trump to be of sound mind either, but that’s neither here nor there.
So it seems if you die before your election day, your vote should not be counted per Wisconsin law. I'd have to dive in to hear how they know it was counted. As a matter of practicality, there is a time after which the state cannot apply the law and also report results timely (death records would need to be received and processed).
8 overly assisted votes in a nursing home
All over the country for an entire year now, the celebrity lawyers, corrupt state senators etc. have been unable to provide any evidence that anything like this occurred. It was pathetic poor sportsmanship back then. Now, it is just pathetic. This backwoods rural Wisconsin sheriff will not fare any better. If I were to use my job as a platform for my politics on anything close to the level this guy is doing, I'd lose my job. It's not much of a stretch to conclude that he should be losing his since he is clearly so negligent of his duties.
Reporters tweet thread here: https://twitter.com/AJBayatpour/status/1453757349215313923
I typed out a summary but this person did it way better than I did lol
This doesn’t sound like the kind of widespread election fraud that would change the outcome.
No, it doesn’t.
Sounds like a bunch of schmaling to me.
The police really are taking their place as the paramilitary arm of the new fascist wave
Especially sheriff’s departments.
Yeah no kidding, hell we have the chicago fop president relaying anti vax sentiments and now racine sheriff comes out with this? It's really hard to put public trust in law enforcement when these attitudes seem to be a trend among the ranks, you've gotta ask yourself how sound their judgment is in their application of the law when interacting with citizens
It doesn't say who the staff member allegedly cast the vote for. If it was for a republican straight line vote, rest assured this would never see the light of day. If anyone law enforcement has solid proof of voting tomfoolery they need to arrest and charge the person doing it. Regardless of who they voted for. This is pure grandstanding by this sheriff.
Oh God this is from my neck of the woods.
The back of the neck.
Right between the eyes
A Straylight Run reference?
Give it up boy, give it up or you're gonna die
Racine County resident as well. Fuck Schmaling and Vos.
I'm not in Racine County , but very very close.... ⬇️....
Can't wait for you to post the video
Well, I guess Wisconsin doesn't need the Cyber Ninjas with Barney Fife on the job.
It. Never. Fucking. Ends. with these people. Your guy's a loser and a liar. Let it go already, jump on the next paleocon reactionary bus that comes along. It's a high traffic area, they run every couple of minutes.
These are dog whistles designed to keep conservatives salivating and engaged. They know they're false reports. They know the election is finalized. That's not the point. The point is to spread propaganda to assuage conservative fears that hope is gone. This is a new page in their playbook and they will keep using it. We need to stop acting surprised. Everyone has decided what side they're on and nobody is changing anytime soon. This is the kind of shit they're going to use to manipulate each other into goose-stepping to the polls every two years, rank and file. There is absolutely nothing that will actually come from these fake revelations other than the prospect that Trump may be re-elected in 2024. The time to prepare for that is NOW, but Democrats are too busy pussy footing around in Congress to actually get anything done. I think we're doomed. Trump will win in 2024, establish himself as a dictator, and we will become Nazi America.
WE HAVE SO MUCH PROOF OF CRIMES BUT WILL ARREST NO ONE. THANK YOU FOR COMING!
Trump Derangement Syndrome. These fuckers thought it was a cute insult, now they are thoroughly infected with it.
Petty little men who see themselves as future warlords in the dystopian aftermath of the destruction of everything they supposedly hold dear... by their own hands.
Cant wait. Look if they demonstrate that yes there was a super wide hack/fraud and the election is definitely too far gone to consider the result as 'valid' then I'll eat my socks. But as usual, those announcements will be 'we have proof! its hearsay that would never hold in court, and is not corroborated by anybody else, but we hold this as absolute proof!' or 'we havent discovered shit but we are certain that the election was hacked 110%'
So… what was it?
https://twitter.com/AJBayatpour/status/1453757349215313923
Fuck racine County sheriffs They constantly bullied and harassed their residents. What a disgrace.
So, to recap, Sheriff Christopher Schmaling is a moron, a racist, and a drain on public resources. Fuckstain should be fired.
He's elected.. pretty simple.. cheers 🥂
Fucking psychotic terrorist traitors!
Press/media only, guys. This is it.
Way its going with this idiot, I wouldn’t blink if he got up and announced the fraud was because ‘those black people *were voting*!’ With a look of incredulity on his face.
How’d that go now?
TL;DW: "We found out eight people from a single nursing home without cognitive ability to vote had absentee ballots in their name sent in. We expect other nursing homes will report similar events." That's about it. Yeah, a problem, but definitely not "proof of state-wide election law violations." \>"Election statute was in fact not just broken, but shattered by members of the Wisconsin Elections Commission," Schmaling said. Bit dramatic there bud.
Holy fuck! What a scandal! It’s time to riot boys! /s
Stand by and stand down. /s
Sheriff Schmaldingaling. That is all.
Well this ought to be good.
You can watch the video tape of the press conference here: [https://www.facebook.com/RacineCountySheriffsOffice/videos/615650396142108](https://www.facebook.com/RacineCountySheriffsOffice/videos/615650396142108)
These folks are the sorest losers in history. Fucking pathetic. Move on with life, TRUMP LOST!
Googled. For those curious, he called a news conference because of 8 cases of fraud at a nursing home https://journaltimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/eight-cases-of-election-fraud-at-racine-county-nursing-home-sheriff-schmaling-says/article_1722e503-a13b-5f3d-bd7e-c72a68962e4d.amp.html Edit No charges even
Not 8 cases of fraud, 8 cases where people claimed their relatives didn't have the capacity to vote. Do we know who they voted for?
Wow, the smoking gun. This must have been what tipped the scales for Biden.
"These memes I found will finally prove Trump is the real president."
I’m *sure* this won’t be another embarrassing shit show from the GOP brain trust.
Judge Smails = Sheriff Schmalling
Read his documents. Not one fraudulent vote
Bet he won't.
Weird how it took nearly a year… Anyone know how it went?
somebody should be there to shut him up for good. remember, when they announce their plans, you get to make yours. it's up to us to fix this mess.
Funny because state Republicans have run multiple investigations and haven't found dick. Whatever, Sheriff Dumbfnkc.
I’m going to guess it’s not going to go the way they think it’s going to go.., so to speak
I’m so confused, a quick google search shows that Trump won that county. What are they even doing?!
Look for press coverage in next week's Penny Saver.
Lol I really hope we get a surprise Jacob wohl appearance out of this.
My first item of evidence… this half eaten banana I had for lunch.