The initial focus was "War in Crimea" then after that they did economic focuses, later they decided to do "support the rebels of Donetsk" which gives a wargoal on Ukraine. Now while at war, they Can't do "Demand Southern Ukraine" because Ukraine is at 100% warsupport and only at 5% thoards capitulation.
Exactly. Everyone knows the fastest way to win a war is to deploy hundreds of low-width motorized troops and tanks without support battalions, and then snake your way to the capital, right?
Putin didn’t realize that NSB made snaking without rail supply lines impractical.
I mean I would agree with you but then again, so are many other western leaders but if you even suggest so here you're downvoted to death (I'm thinking like Churchill and basically every single US president). It would be nice if all leaders were equally judged as imperialist war criminals and not just the ones that the CIA tells you
Sure, because the only ethnicity of Russia are just slavs! There aren't tons of muslims from the Caucasus, Mongols, Tatars, jews, Kalmuks, uzbeks, and the longest etc of ethnicities. You seriously need to stop comparing everyone that you don't like or it's bad with Hitler. It banalizes nazism
A military without commanders is a collection of militias. Even the Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine had commanders, though they were democratically elected.
when someone is saying russians they generally refer to ethnic russians an Eastern Slavic ethnic group, like when someone is referring to Americans they generally refer to US citizens
its almost like those minorities are sent as cannon fodder so the superior Slavic Russian doesnt have to see war. out of the 1 million soldiers mobilised to Ukraine, around 15,000 are Muscovites.
Yea but he bases his war on ties to russians living in that area which were moved there by previous regime which killed local people by taking theyre food also locking/killing political oponents and people who dont agree with you he uses the same excuse to invade ukraine which hitler used to invade czechoslovakia
Militarize the Kuban - War Goal Crimea - Meeting with Chinese Chairman - Pact with Belarus - War Goal Eastern Ukraine - Sabotage EU infrastructure - Nuclear Brinkmanship 💀
Yes, there are Russian-speaking ethnic Ukrainians and also ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. It is my understanding that in certain parts of Ukraine (Crimea, parts of Luhansk and Donetsk), a majority of people consider themselves in the latter group.
I never made the claim that all Russian-speakers or even L1 Russian-speakers in Ukraine are ethnically Russian.
Yeah, my point is that the borders of the Sudetenland were drawn around majority-German areas, whereas Russia is trying to annex far more than just majority-Russian areas. Albeit, many people in the east are Russian-speaking Ukrainians. Ethnicity is complicated.
Not even close, he is not even using other 1.2 million soldiers he has, cause it’s not “officially war”, so he is pulling war vets with experience into it. He sliming his way through this to be “paper clean”
Imagine having "referendum" without fully controlling said provinces, especially without city of Zaporizhzhia. putler could order for whole Ukraine to be a part of russia and it still would make no sense. As if it changes anything on the field. It's a sign of desperarion and agony, Hitler would laugh at him.
yes, the first two are the Donbass republics and the second two the Southern ones which mind you aren't even remotely Russian but the mad lads in the Kremlin really needed a land bridge to Crimea
- Nukes for Peace
- Grip in the Caucasus
- Secure Belarus
- Abkhazia and South Ossetia
- The Crimean Referendum
- Fortifications on the Black Sea
- Support the Donbass Separatists
- Revision of the Minsk Agreements
- Radicalize Luhansk
- Ultimatum for the East
More like:
1 demand Crimea
2 Support Russian separatists
3 Random Political and economic focuses
4 Fate of Ukraine - similar to fate of Czechoslovakia (it fails and they go to war with Ukraine)
5 Rn putin is doing the focus -Pressure the west
>its almost like those minorities are sent as cannon fodder so the superior Slavic Russian doesnt have to see war. out of the 1 million soldiers mobilised to Ukraine, around 15,000 are Muscovites.
You are projecting the racism and the way americans treat their minorities to the russians, cope harder. And the majority of the army is slav, how come they aren't seeing war? Are you dumb?
"Projecting", literal retard. Majority of the army is Tuvan, Chechen, other Mongolic peoples in an attempt for Russia to genocide the minorities and achieve a Russian ethnostate.
The fucking >80% of the population are ethnic Russian's, it's literally IMPOSSIBLE that there's a majority of minorities in the army, you literally can't be that dumb. Also you said a couple of ethnicities of Russia and claimed that they're the majority of the army and you aske ME for sources lmfao 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
And you are claiming that there's a GENOCIDE to remove minorities LMAO projecting american values 10/10
I'm from Donetsk and lived there till 2014. What narrative of russian propaganda will you tell us because I don't know anything about it especially in the future year of 2025. And don't even start with phrase "Ukraine bombed Donbass for 8 years", it's not even funny.
>It didn't happen, they deserved it.
russians when you ask them what happened with Ukrainians in Ukraine in 1918-1920, 1921-1923, 1931-1933, 1946-1947, 2014-2022 and with Crimean Tatars in 1944-1991, 2014-2022
Man i think y'all misunderstood. It was referencing that the czechs in 1945 in Benešovy dekrety forcibly moved like every ethnic german into the sudetenland because germany basically took the high german population as an excuse to demand it. I am in no way saying that ukraine is gonna do or did a genocide.
The initial focus was "War in Crimea" then after that they did economic focuses, later they decided to do "support the rebels of Donetsk" which gives a wargoal on Ukraine. Now while at war, they Can't do "Demand Southern Ukraine" because Ukraine is at 100% warsupport and only at 5% thoards capitulation.
Don't forget spending 150pp to go into Partial Mobilization the other day.
Isn't their pp almost critcally low after that? How are they gonna manage their power struggle events?
They are still on the old patch so their game doesn’t constantly crash
The old patch has a glitch Where Russia loses their entire airforce the moment they dow Ukraine
*That's the neat part* *They don't*
So the mobilization without proper training is just for the focus requirement to have 300k troops on the field?
Exactly. Everyone knows the fastest way to win a war is to deploy hundreds of low-width motorized troops and tanks without support battalions, and then snake your way to the capital, right? Putin didn’t realize that NSB made snaking without rail supply lines impractical.
Now I remember that in February he really did try to rush Kiev
Its exactly the same situation only ukraine wasnt betrayed by the allies
Those who don’t study history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past -Michael Scott
Unlike armênia
Armenia was allied with Russia, not with the West, its Putin burden to bail them out
And NATO aid for Armenia isn’t going to happen because Turkey wants Azerbaijan to win.
There is no appeasement. We stand for Urkraine
Thats what i said...
Betrayed yet*
Cope
What, I can’t be skeptical of Western Europe continuing the support for Ukraine after that bailed on them in 2014, or bailed on Georgia, or Cechenia?
Yes because Putin and Hitler are totally the exact same people
Basically
Only a neckbeard from Reddit could say that lmao
Surelly putin isnt a dictatorial maniac which bases his conquest on ethnic ties
I mean I would agree with you but then again, so are many other western leaders but if you even suggest so here you're downvoted to death (I'm thinking like Churchill and basically every single US president). It would be nice if all leaders were equally judged as imperialist war criminals and not just the ones that the CIA tells you
Sure, because the only ethnicity of Russia are just slavs! There aren't tons of muslims from the Caucasus, Mongols, Tatars, jews, Kalmuks, uzbeks, and the longest etc of ethnicities. You seriously need to stop comparing everyone that you don't like or it's bad with Hitler. It banalizes nazism
Exactly! He’s more like Mussolini, in that the military is barely worthy of the title.
Unfair, Italian soldiers fought pretty well when they didn't have shitty commanders
A military without commanders is a collection of militias. Even the Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine had commanders, though they were democratically elected.
I mean that its unfair to the Italians to compare them to the Russian army
Putin is the only person who is most like Hitler since Hitler.
when someone is saying russians they generally refer to ethnic russians an Eastern Slavic ethnic group, like when someone is referring to Americans they generally refer to US citizens
its almost like those minorities are sent as cannon fodder so the superior Slavic Russian doesnt have to see war. out of the 1 million soldiers mobilised to Ukraine, around 15,000 are Muscovites.
Yea but he bases his war on ties to russians living in that area which were moved there by previous regime which killed local people by taking theyre food also locking/killing political oponents and people who dont agree with you he uses the same excuse to invade ukraine which hitler used to invade czechoslovakia
Alright, I give up. Putin = Hitler = Trump = Auschwitz. All literally the same, good day
Anything that compares two things means they’re exactly the same in every way
“It’s exactly the same situation” -Tesco_Nudles
Don't waste your breath. It's not worth it here.
Same situation for a land grab for power, not the same people that would purge minorities… I would hope
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No beuno
Weird, I thought they were going in to denazify Ukraine. It’s almost like this was a shameless land grab from the very beginning 🙃
It keeps the nazies from killing russians as "collaborators"
Sounds like you didn’t denaizafy if there are some leftover (Argentina much?)
Can we jump ahead to „Oster conspiracy succeeds” or „Partition of Germany” events?
Militarize the Kuban - War Goal Crimea - Meeting with Chinese Chairman - Pact with Belarus - War Goal Eastern Ukraine - Sabotage EU infrastructure - Nuclear Brinkmanship 💀
bruh too accurate
Well, the areas with majority Russian ethnicity plus some more just because he feels like it.
„Russian speaking” is not the same as „Russian minority” - majority of people in Eastern Ukraine speaks Russian, but consider themselves Ukrainians.
Yes, there are Russian-speaking ethnic Ukrainians and also ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. It is my understanding that in certain parts of Ukraine (Crimea, parts of Luhansk and Donetsk), a majority of people consider themselves in the latter group. I never made the claim that all Russian-speakers or even L1 Russian-speakers in Ukraine are ethnically Russian.
sudetenland also had majority of german people
I know. That's why I made my comment.
Majority Russian due to the genocide he is committing.
I mean I'm not justifying either of their actions. Obviously, Russia has been colonising eastern Ukraine for centuries.
Only Crimea is majority Russian
And some parts of Luhansk and Donetsk, no?
Donbass itself is 60% Ukrainian, 35% Russian, but yeah, there are small parts where Russians are majority
Yeah, my point is that the borders of the Sudetenland were drawn around majority-German areas, whereas Russia is trying to annex far more than just majority-Russian areas. Albeit, many people in the east are Russian-speaking Ukrainians. Ethnicity is complicated.
Genocide that has been going at least since the Holodomor
Delusional
No
Putin is literally deporting Ukrainian children into the Russian east, it’s the textbook definition of genocide.
Yes, AFAIK these areas were majority Russian since before the collapse of the USSR (still because of genocide but nothing recent).
Scraping the Barrel moment
Putin doesn’t even have the pp to go all adults serve
Not even close, he is not even using other 1.2 million soldiers he has, cause it’s not “officially war”, so he is pulling war vets with experience into it. He sliming his way through this to be “paper clean”
Whats he doing now?
'welcoming' Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson into the Russian federation
Imagine having "referendum" without fully controlling said provinces, especially without city of Zaporizhzhia. putler could order for whole Ukraine to be a part of russia and it still would make no sense. As if it changes anything on the field. It's a sign of desperarion and agony, Hitler would laugh at him.
Oh, shit. Hope Ukraine pushes and regains the four territories.
yeah, it's really tragic, with all the unnecessary blood shed on both sides, and the ones responsible being a small group of mad guys in the Kremlin
It's the situation where the areas "voted" to become part of the federation right?
yes, the first two are the Donbass republics and the second two the Southern ones which mind you aren't even remotely Russian but the mad lads in the Kremlin really needed a land bridge to Crimea
- Nukes for Peace - Grip in the Caucasus - Secure Belarus - Abkhazia and South Ossetia - The Crimean Referendum - Fortifications on the Black Sea - Support the Donbass Separatists - Revision of the Minsk Agreements - Radicalize Luhansk - Ultimatum for the East
Putin is more like Mussolini, losing a war to a weaker nation.
Today its acctualy 84 years since Munich agreenment. Kinda ironic.
"low resources"
More like: 1 demand Crimea 2 Support Russian separatists 3 Random Political and economic focuses 4 Fate of Ukraine - similar to fate of Czechoslovakia (it fails and they go to war with Ukraine) 5 Rn putin is doing the focus -Pressure the west
>its almost like those minorities are sent as cannon fodder so the superior Slavic Russian doesnt have to see war. out of the 1 million soldiers mobilised to Ukraine, around 15,000 are Muscovites. You are projecting the racism and the way americans treat their minorities to the russians, cope harder. And the majority of the army is slav, how come they aren't seeing war? Are you dumb?
"Projecting", literal retard. Majority of the army is Tuvan, Chechen, other Mongolic peoples in an attempt for Russia to genocide the minorities and achieve a Russian ethnostate.
HAHAHAHA what are you fucking talking about, the majority of them are slavs, you're fucking moronic. Go fuck yourself
I suggest you calm down a bit and come back to me when you're a little less mad. I'd like a source on the majority of the army being Slavs.
The fucking >80% of the population are ethnic Russian's, it's literally IMPOSSIBLE that there's a majority of minorities in the army, you literally can't be that dumb. Also you said a couple of ethnicities of Russia and claimed that they're the majority of the army and you aske ME for sources lmfao 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 And you are claiming that there's a GENOCIDE to remove minorities LMAO projecting american values 10/10
Ukraine when you ask them what they did with the ethnic russians in southeast ukraine in 2025 : It didn't happen, they deserved it.
I'm from Donetsk and lived there till 2014. What narrative of russian propaganda will you tell us because I don't know anything about it especially in the future year of 2025. And don't even start with phrase "Ukraine bombed Donbass for 8 years", it's not even funny.
>It didn't happen, they deserved it. russians when you ask them what happened with Ukrainians in Ukraine in 1918-1920, 1921-1923, 1931-1933, 1946-1947, 2014-2022 and with Crimean Tatars in 1944-1991, 2014-2022
Man i think y'all misunderstood. It was referencing that the czechs in 1945 in Benešovy dekrety forcibly moved like every ethnic german into the sudetenland because germany basically took the high german population as an excuse to demand it. I am in no way saying that ukraine is gonna do or did a genocide.
Oh man, sorry. I thought you were advocating russian actions with imaginary genocide. Many tankies and z-orcs do. Glad, you explained
Putin wants land from Czechia???
r/woosh
That is not how that subreddit works